Why so few Rogues on P99?

[Eman717]

I am about to roll a Rogue, but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing some big reason why there are so few on P99. Thanks!

[Estu]

I imagine it's mainly because they're boring to play and can't solo. They are extremely useful in groups and raids since they are the best DPS in the game (except for wizards on raid bosses).

[Faulken]

They are in the same boat as warriors, pretty much requiring a group 20+ without thousands of plat worth of gear. I'm sure this is an unappealing concept for a lot of new p99er's.

On the other hand, it's very easy to find groups here contrary to popular belief, and rogues are always welcomed party members ;)

[Eman717]

Yea groups have been pretty easy to come by so far. I was playing a Paladin, but when I heard how weak they are, I decided a class change was in order.

[Cords]

make sure to max out intimidate, though it doesn't always work, it is the best way to get your backstabs off when soloing.

[Nirgon]

Don't solo

[Peekae]

Rogues are awesome just hard to solo so will be reliant on groups

[Malevz]

soloed 1-57 so far, all it took is a fungi, some HP gear, and knowing where to level. Epic MQ's aren't too hard to come by, although I managed without til 53.

[Peekae]

soloed 1-57 so far, all it took is a fungi, some HP gear, and knowing where to level. Epic MQ's aren't too hard to come by, although I managed without til 53.

Yeah but most people starting out aren't going to have a fungi.. Its the only thing that makes rogue solo'ing viable really outside of that sweet spot when intimidate works really well

[Eman717]

Yea wish I could afford a fungi. I've gotten lucky that I got a few pieces of armor and a decent wep (9/25) so i've gotten to ten in just a few days. Hoping to keep moving forward although I am going to be needing groups very soon. But for my first char I don't mind the grind! I am excited the epic is rather easy, but am in no real rush to get it.

[ripwind]

You can't do the epic until 46, unless you get a MQ, right?

[Lojik]

Not great for soloing but two of the best exp duo's I've done were shaman plus rogue and wizard plus rogue.

[Malevz]

Without a fungi definitely much tougher. Once you get intimidate to 100/120ish, I remember it landed very regularly until I hit 40 or so.

If you can get to tower of kurns and do that til 20, it's very good quick exp. You can then switch to WW giant fort, although for the first level or two it can be hard. WW giants will take you right to 35 soloing, there's lots of room to kite on the ledge in fort one you're using intimidate. Another good place is unrest at level 20, good experience modifier, less cash drops, more competition.

Anyway, reason so few rogues, they are one of the hardest classes to solo with, and lots of people don't like to spend a bunch of time lfg if you can just log in and grind a bit and log out when you want.

[Raavak]

You can't do the epic until 46, unless you get a MQ, right?Parts of it are planar, yeah.

[Cecily]

Hmm I never noticed a shortage. Not that I'd complain about it. I think playing a rogue is blast and I'll be working on my second one on P99 soonish.

Or quitting. One of those.

[Hodge]

soloed 1-57 so far, all it took is a fungi, some HP gear, and knowing where to level. Epic MQ's aren't too hard to come by, although I managed without til 53.

where did you level from 40 to 55 soloing?

[Bazia]

I think we need more advice for the newbie OP from the guy who soloed with Epic + Fungi + HP Gear

[SamwiseRed]

Although I am semi twinked, I have leveled my rogue purely by grouping (except 1-5 ofc.) Here is where I am at so far:

1-4 newb yard

5-12 ec (wandering blues then orc 1 and orc 2)

13-14 north ro (scarabs and spiders or dervs)

15-20 oasis (crocs)

21-22 Unrest

23-28 (MM and where I am currently to at least 30+)

Average wait time on group is maybe 10 mintues. Twinking has had little impact outside tanking in Oasis a couple of levels when I was with all casters. for levels 1-14 youll be a zone away from EC (or in EC), ask people nicely for buffs. Its not a big deal for some people to buff you while they are trading. Take advantage of the help while its there.

[Peekae]

also rogues can duo very well with some classes. I leveled a good portion of my first character (untwinked rogue) by aggro or fear kiting with a druid or necro partner.


More or less have them keep aggro with high threat spells and keep it snared while you stab it in the ass.

[Malevz]

where did you level from 40 to 55 soloing?

Check PM's, Sundawg watches me like a hawk because he likes to nerf my exp spots.

[pasi]

Whats are you soloing rogue-wise 51+?

I was thinking either Dreadlands or Bats in Solb (prob need snare sword here).

I know the single spawn noble in HHK is awesome for melee, but trashing Stanos faction as a rogue is not something I want to do. I'm guessing I could do the 2 bards there with root nets to split.

With the giant HP gain/level 40+, I'm looking for single 39-41 mobs.

[Malevz]

Typically level 40 guards in cities til 55. Level 40 guards are blue until 55. At 55 it gets harder.

[Knuckle]

If two boxxing was available you would see alot more: rogues, monks, warriors, and hybrids. Solo leveling a melee class without being able to box on a server a portion the size of a real eq live server during 1999-2000 where there were groups in most low level xp zones is nearly impossible. They recently nerfed powerleveling on red99 so pretty much the only way to level a melee is with 100K in twink gear.

[Knuckle]

Whats are you soloing rogue-wise 51+?

I was thinking either Dreadlands or Bats in Solb (prob need snare sword here).

I know the single spawn noble in HHK is awesome for melee, but trashing Stanos faction as a rogue is not something I want to do. I'm guessing I could do the 2 bards there with root nets to split.

With the giant HP gain/level 40+, I'm looking for single 39-41 mobs.

Emerald Jungle is good if you have max intimidate and solid gear.

[Kohedron]

I have a rogue. At level 10, but a rogue nevertheless.

I have a big dum ogre shammy for soloing

[Raavak]

With the number of rogue epic MQ's that seem to be done I'd think there are a ton of rogues out there.

[Dezik]

With the number of rogue epic MQ's that seem to be done I'd think there are a ton of rogues out there.

Yea you would think.. and you would be wrong

[kotton05]

With the number of rogue epic MQ's that seem to be done I'd think there are a ton of rogues out there.

they all turn into EC mules i think>.<

[Kender]

what's the current price a a rogue epic mq?

[evilkorn]

what's the current price a a rogue epic mq?

50k, think it got as low as 40k after the hide nerf last patch, but it went up pretty quick. If rogue epic get's level nerfed, strong evidence for it, I don't know what will happen.

[ZumgrugDloc]

Ive had a 60 rogue and shaman before I quit years back. Two of the best classes imo. I agree with the earlier post...no fungi..no solo for a rogue.


Im looking for a starter kit for my rogue if anyone can hook a brother up let me know...itll be put to good use and greatly appreciated.


Zumgrug lvl 4 rogue

[captnamazing]

most people don't like being reliant on group exp

[Kohedron]

Currently at 33 rogue.

With mediocre gear, soloing isn't too bad if you are in an outdoors area with mobs a level above LB, or even LB.

LB's are pretty much guaranteed to have intimidate land on them, so you can mow them down quickly with BS without losing any life at all.

This isn't ideal obviously, but some nights it'll seem like all the usual grouping spots are filled up, so it is an option.

[Dragonmist]

I have a rogue and if your soloing and you get as close as possible to mobs then run past em and back up they will turn around long enough to land backstabs this works most of the time. Timing is what its all about though.

[Tikker]

just fight casters

they like to stand still and let you BS~

[Kennie]

Get a fungi, max intimidation and you can solo up to 51.

[Sidelle]

They are in the same boat as warriors, pretty much requiring a group 20+ without thousands of plat worth of gear. I'm sure this is an unappealing concept for a lot of new p99er's.

On the other hand, it's very easy to find groups here contrary to popular belief, and rogues are always welcomed party members ;)

It's sad that so many people find rogues unappealing because they can't solo. Rogues aren't a solo class (except for twinks with fungis and epic maybe). I grouped the whole way up in banded, ravenscale, and mithril (no epic til 47) and had a blast. I met lots of fun people (and no one cared I wasn't twinked out). Nothing against twinks, btw.. to each their own.

I remember 30-45 being kind of a pain trying to find groups sometimes though. That was like a year ago, not sure how it is nowadays.

[Sidelle]

just fight casters

they like to stand still and let you BS~

I love this about casters.