5 Great Reasons to Wipe it Clean

[Samoht]

give me an example of an ad hominem attack I've used.

i've got two in the last 2 pages alone.

It seems those campaigning to resist the opening of a new server are acting selfishly as well b/c they don't want to lose player base to something they don't personally desire.

here you make a point by calling players who disagree with you selfish.

Wow - that didn't take long. Here's to at least trying to have a reasonable conversation over the internet.
Let me repeat what I posted, word-for-word, about RMT/duping and a new server, and I'm going to put it in bold to really help you read it and understand it.
So, before you lose your cool and start calling people "dumbasses" and such, please make sure you have thoroughly read and comprehended your opponents "invalid argumentation" before spewing around like an un-held firehouse.

these three are even from the same post.

[Splorf22]

troll ravings

Armor with +2000HP = mudflation. Do we have that here? No.

Also the onus is clearly on the people who want to delete everyone else's characters to provide good reasons. That's just obvious.

And so far all I've heard is random whining.

[Samoht]

This should be a clear sign for anyone. Dont expect a rational debate with this guy.

zero rational reasons to wipe.

zero.

[Norrath]

To quote the great Patton Oswalt on respecting differing opinions and beliefs:

"You’ve gotta respect everyone’s beliefs." No, you don’t. That’s what gets us in trouble. Look, you have to acknowledge everyone’s beliefs, and then you have to reserve the right to go: “That is fucking stupid. Are you kidding me?" I acknowledge that you believe that, that’s great, but I’m not going to respect it. I have an uncle that believes he saw Sasquatch. We do not believe him, nor do we respect him!"

Fair enough.

However, I don't think calling someone to respect the idea of a new server (not a server wipe, mind you) is worthy of such disrespect and agitation - there is valid reasoning associated with the idea. This is all in my opinion of course.

[Odds_against_me]

Man screw a wipe, I just spent 48 hours getting to level 6. I can only imagine how long its going to take me to get to 60. If there is a wipe I can garantee you people will be livid, prob borderline suicidal.

If your that far deep in to fantasy, You need to get a life AWAY from the PC

[Samoht]

Armor with +2000HP = mudflation. Do we have that here? No.

Also the onus is clearly on the people who want to delete everyone else's characters to provide good reasons. That's just obvious.

And so far all I've heard is random whining.

mind = blown

[Norrath]

Armor with +2000HP = mudflation. Do we have that here? No.

Also the onus is clearly on the people who want to delete everyone else's characters to provide good reasons. That's just obvious.

And so far all I've heard is random whining.

Splorf, you're a reasonable guy. Please read back through all of my posts in this thread and show me where I was supporting a server wipe. Server wipe is not the same as starting a new server (3rd server) while leaving this one intact.

Also, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudflation

Stat inflation (or "stat explosion") can be a subset issue related to Mudflation.

[Norrath]

mind = blown

Doesn't take much does it? :D

[aowen]

Why to not wipe the server in a few easy-to-understand points:
1. My character is not your character to take away from me, and I don't need you trying to inception the devs to take them.
2. Not wiping the server is not an imposition on you. Similar to getting gay married, it doesn't hurt anyone, but some religious asshole/gamer dick who blocks marriage/resets a server because he can't stand to see others getting along well on something he doesn't approve of is an imposition.
3. Ain't nobody got time for that shit.
4. I don't know what your experience on classic was, but mine included playing with a bunch of richer than god players, and trying to work my way up in status.
5. Other people having stuff doesn't mean you can't one day too.
6. Enforcing a raid/guild rotation is easier than restarting a server.
7. Velious will hopefully shut you up

[Samoht]

Doesn't take much does it? :D

context > you

[Neach]

Wasn't it the journey that people always wanted to relive? The journey you make with 10 fungi-tunics is no different than the one living the journey in poverty, it's the people you play with and the content we all love.

[Samoht]

Wasn't it the journey that people always wanted to relive? The journey you make with 10 fungi-tunics is no different than the one living the journey in poverty, it's the people you play with and the content we all love.

but so many people want me to restart my journey for so many feckless reasons.

[Samoht]

Splorf, you're a reasonable guy. Please read back through all of my posts in this thread and show me where I was supporting a server wipe.

got called out for ad hominem and has no defense, so resorts to divide and conquer.

i've never seen someone go from mudflation to mudslinging in so few posts.

[purist__]

"Samoht" has posted 43 times in this thread so far today.

This thread was created less than 12 hours ago.

Scary how bonkers some people are

[Splorf22]

Splorf, you're a reasonable guy. Please read back through all of my posts in this thread and show me where I was supporting a server wipe. Server wipe is not the same as starting a new server (3rd server) while leaving this one intact.

Also, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudflation

Stat inflation (or "stat explosion") can be a subset issue related to Mudflation.

I actually skimmed your wikipedia article. They also talk about 'price inflation' but really we don't have that here. The Hierophant's Cloak for example has oscillated between 30-60k over the past two years, but it certainly hasn't zoomed off to the moon.

Also the whole thread's title is wipe it clean so I'm doing a little troll blasting here. If your position is a new server, well I think that's quite reasonable, but lets see Velious first so that we actually have the population to support said server. I was here last year when the population was peaking at 400 and it was quite empty.

[Norrath]

but so many people want me to restart my journey for so many feckless reasons.

How does a new server = you having to restart your journey?

Can someone please help me communicate to this guy that there is a THIRD option on the table here?

1.) Do nothing

2.) Wipe the current server

3.) Open a new, 3rd server for the people who want to start over for the reasons already mentioned in this thread and others


You talk a lot about selfish people Samoht, but you can't seem to see past your own neck-beard far enough to actual read everything being said.

[Samoht]

This message is hidden because purist__ is on your ignore list.

[Karnaji]

6. Enforcing a raid/guild rotation is easier than restarting a server.

http://i.imgur.com/tvJlYnm.jpg

[Samoht]

How does a new server = you having to restart your journey?

Can someone please help me communicate to this guy that there is a THIRD option on the table here?

1.) Do nothing

2.) Wipe the current server

3.) Open a new, 3rd server for the people who want to start over for the reasons already mentioned in this thread and others


You talk a lot about selfish people Samoht, but you can't seem to see past your own neck-beard far enough to actual read everything being said.

so you're willing to crash the population of the existing server in order to fulfill the EQ experience you missed for being 4 years late to the party? and i'm the selfish one? dumbass.

[Norrath]

I actually skimmed your wikipedia article. They also talk about 'price inflation' but really we don't have that here. The Hierophant's Cloak for example has oscillated between 30-60k over the past two years, but it certainly hasn't zoomed off to the moon.

Also the whole thread's title is wipe it clean so I'm doing a little troll blasting here. If your position is a new server, well I think that's quite reasonable, but lets see Velious first so that we actually have the population to support said server. I was here last year when the population was peaking at 400 and it was quite empty.

Fair enough, and I definitely agree about waiting until Velious.

If a new server is opened, it should be done at the right time and in a way that maintains the health of the current server.

[Rhuma7]

Why to not wipe the server in a few easy-to-understand points:
1. My character is not your character to take away from me, and I don't need you trying to inception the devs to take them.
2. Not wiping the server is not an imposition on you. Similar to getting gay married, it doesn't hurt anyone, but some religious asshole/gamer dick who blocks marriage/resets a server because he can't stand to see others getting along well on something he doesn't approve of is an imposition.
3. Ain't nobody got time for that shit.
4. I don't know what your experience on classic was, but mine included playing with a bunch of richer than god players, and trying to work my way up in status.
5. Other people having stuff doesn't mean you can't one day too.
6. Enforcing a raid/guild rotation is easier than restarting a server.
7. Velious will hopefully shut you up

1: Yeah that is the shitty part :\ It is hard to accept having things taken away from you when you weren't the one who screwed things up.
2: weird but i think the point was it wont affect me if the server doesnt wipe, true enough.
3: Pretty sure if you're playing p99 to begin with you have time for that shit.
4: Mine was starting brand new on day 1 and having real classic progression and not being stuck in kunark for 2 years and counting :P
5: Do you even play on this server? This bullet point reply is deserving of its own thread.
6: raid mobs arent the reason people are wanting a wipe, at all.
7: same shit different continent.

You point out the obvious in the debate for a server wipe... It is clearly logical that there are people who want a fresh start and people who want to continue.

In the end, its clearly been stated there will never be a wipe, which is a shame but I rather enjoy the idea of a wipe and experiencing that part of a servers life. It definitely is one of the best times of a server... Day 1 experiences are a game all its own.

Like I said though, there won't be a wipe or even a new server... Which is a shame... It really is. If we lived in a perfect world, we could cater to both types of players but we live in a shitty world with downsides to everything.

[Masq]

I wouldn't mind a wipe or a new server. Fresh servers are so much fun, constantly 'challenging' with everyone working together to hold down simple camps, no twinks zerging everything or people getting powerleved.

Yeah it would only last a limited time until were right back where we started, but honestly that's where the real fun ( for me at least) lies.

Tldr suggestions: wipe server or rotate between two servers 'restarting' every couple years to keep things fresh ;(

In before flames

[purist__]

You talk a lot about selfish people Samoht, but you can't seem to see past your own neck-beard far enough to actual read everything being said.

"Samoht" has posted 45 times in this thread so far today, and it's only lunchtime. I'm sure it will be well in the triple digits before dusk.

You don't need me to explain why this kid has a screw loose somewhere.

[Samoht]

Tldr suggestions: wipe server or rotate between two servers 'restarting' every couple years to keep things fresh ;(

has no place in p99 mission statement.

&

i wouldn't play there.

[Norrath]

so you're willing to crash the population of the existing server in order to fulfill the EQ experience you missed for being 4 years late to the party? and i'm the selfish one? dumbass.

Don't make assumptions about when I started playing based on this forum account. My first character was a 50 cleric named Tasrin who was a member of Fish Bait back in the good old days when Durison was GL.

You STILL are not dealing with the issue man. You're like the little kid that throws a tantrum in the floor because your friends want to go to the pool but you want to stay inside and play video games.

[Rhuma7]

i wouldn't play there.

Best reason I've seen in this thread to wipe!

lol

[Samoht]

You STILL are not dealing with the issue man. You're like the little kid that throws a tantrum in the floor because your friends want to go to the pool but you want to stay inside and play video games.

i'm willing to face the issue head on while you're resorting to name calling.

give me good reasons to wipe. any good reasons.

[Norrath]

i'm willing to face the issue head on while you're resorting to name calling.

give me good reasons to wipe. any good reasons.

I don't want to wipe the server - did your brain just explode?

[Barkingturtle]

give me good reasons to wipe. any good reasons.

It will make it easier for your mommy to wash your undies.

[Masq]

has no place in p99 mission statement.

&

i wouldn't play there.

Its cool, obviously some people like different things. I prefer fresher environments. If you like the current environment that's cool too.

Maybe a solution could be reached where both groups of people could be happy.

[aowen]

1: Yeah that is the shitty part :\ It is hard to accept having things taken away from you when you weren't the one who screwed things up.
2: weird but i think the point was it wont affect me if the server doesnt wipe, true enough.
3: Pretty sure if you're playing p99 to begin with you have time for that shit.
4: Mine was starting brand new on day 1 and having real classic progression and not being stuck in kunark for 2 years and counting :P
5: Do you even play on this server? This bullet point reply is deserving of its own thread.
6: raid mobs arent the reason people are wanting a wipe, at all.
7: same shit different continent.

You point out the obvious in the debate for a server wipe... It is clearly logical that there are people who want a fresh start and people who want to continue.

In the end, its clearly been stated there will never be a wipe, which is a shame but I rather enjoy the idea of a wipe and experiencing that part of a servers life. It definitely is one of the best times of a server... Day 1 experiences are a game all its own.

Like I said though, there won't be a wipe or even a new server... Which is a shame... It really is. If we lived in a perfect world, we could cater to both types of players but we live in a shitty world with downsides to everything.

3. I mean as I said earlier, it took me 2 1/2 years to level my toon because I often don't have much time. I have trouble envisioning waiting that long to get back to raiding again.
4. I didn't start on day one and entered into a very wealthy server, and I still came back to play this years later as fun can still be had under these conditions. I guess everyone has different past experiences with the game though. Still doesn't serve as a substantial reason to wipe.
5. If they fixed what is going on with guilds and camps (force rotations/no perma camping) many of the problems would be fixed and the wealth disparity would slowly decrease. This process would be easier than a wipe. That is basically the same as 6.
7. 5 would need to be enforced on velious as well. Otherwise half the server will be stuck with dragon faction, the other half with giant, and half the content will be impractical to try and achieve, like much of the end game content now.

I think the duping can be taken care of, and many of the items and pp confiscated. Only my humble thoughts

[Samoht]

I don't want to wipe the server - did your brain just explode?

please re-read the title of this thread. moran.

It will make it easier for your mommy to wash your undies.

oh, you mean i wouldn't have to send my laundry to your girlfriend any more? nice.

Still doesn't serve as a substantial reason to wipe.

[Barkingturtle]

Maybe a solution could be reached where both groups of people could be happy.

Screw the people who don't want a wipe, imo.

The point of this server is to be classic, and two years in Kunark isn't classic. Might as well rename this ProjectKunark.

[Samoht]

Might as well rename this ProjectKunark.

it's what we have, and i'm not complaining.

[Lowlife]

http://www.gospelnuggetsinc.org/Wipe%20The%20Slate%20Clean%20Pic.png

[aowen]

I think the main thing meant by classic in this case is no huge game-altering content beyond Velious, not all of the minutia bitched about here, like how Kunark has been the only expansion for too long, or how there is rampant RMT, duping, perma-camping, etc. All that can be addressed without a wipe. So get a grip and realize you're not king of the mountain until you kick the king off it, which you won't, because your whining indicates you're a bunch of plebs. So screw you're M.O. IMO

[Norrath]

please re-read the title of this thread. moran.



oh, you mean i wouldn't have to send my laundry to your girlfriend any more? nice.

http://ragefaces.s3.amazonaws.com/5041f6fdae7c704ffe000001/facepalm.png

[thufir]

New players here actually have more benefit of a wipe than old veteran neckbeards.

A wipe means guises, manastones and rubicite drops and the entire server is able to assist you in hitting cap while meeting players that normally you would never see.

With that said... We can also just keep going down this boring road of a set-in-stone bloated server we currently have that correction: only a few people seem to be happy with.

Rhuma, I'm relatively new (2 mos as you can see by join date) and I do not feel I have more benefit from a wipe than "old veteran neckbeards".

I have been enjoying my time here. Many zones in my level range are well populated, even better than they were on Live tbh. I find groups regularly, go to the dungeons I want to go to with appropriately leveled groups (and this is "all of the dungeons in my level range" - I haven't missed a single one yet and that makes me very happy). I think Grallos has gained at most 10 levels in the outdoors out of the 39 he has and most of those were pre-10.

A wipe means long lines at Najena, overcamping in Cazic-Thule and at evil eye camp in Lower Guk. It means that the last 2 months I spent doing all this cool stuff I never did on Live basically merits a do-over because a bunch of guys at the top are grumpy about the raid scene and the prevalence of Kunark loot. It would be OK but would it be awesome? Not nearly as awesome as all you old schoolers would like to think, certainly not awesome for us new people who more or less just got here. I'll still have the memories of these last 2 months granted, and these memories have been great stuff, but I don't think they would be improved upon by a server wipe. Velious mudflation will wipe a lot of these problems away as new, better items hit the server and old stuff gets nerfed as with the classic time line.

I just want you to know my testimony as an actual new player so you don't think you're speaking for all of them. I bet a lot of new players who don't post in these forums would feel more or less the same way.

[Samoht]

dumbmeme.jpg

oh shit, your meme has totally changed my stance on this whole thing! i can't believe how wrong i've been and how right you are!

wait. nevermind. you're still a dumbass.

[Meiva]

What if I told you...

Creating a new server, with classic ruleset, would wipe Blue clean.

[aowen]

You're my boy blue! I won't let the mean people hurt you.

[Meiva]

Rhuma, I'm relatively new (2 mos as you can see by join date) and I do not feel I have more benefit from a wipe than "old veteran neckbeards".

I have been enjoying my time here. Many zones in my level range are well populated, even better than they were on Live tbh. I find groups regularly, go to the dungeons I want to go to with appropriately leveled groups (and this is "all of the dungeons in my level range" - I haven't missed a single one yet and that makes me very happy). I think Grallos has gained at most 10 levels in the outdoors out of the 39 he has and most of those were pre-10.

A wipe means long lines at Najena, overcamping in Cazic-Thule and at evil eye camp in Lower Guk. It means that the last 2 months I spent doing all this cool stuff I never did on Live basically merits a do-over because a bunch of guys at the top are grumpy about the raid scene and the prevalence of Kunark loot. It would be OK but would it be awesome? Not nearly as awesome as all you old schoolers would like to think, certainly not awesome for us new people who more or less just got here. I'll still have the memories of these last 2 months granted, and these memories have been great stuff, but I don't think they would be improved upon by a server wipe. Velious mudflation will wipe a lot of these problems away as new, better items hit the server and old stuff gets nerfed as with the classic time line.

I just want you to know my testimony as an actual new player so you don't think you're speaking for all of them. I bet a lot of new players who don't post in these forums would feel more or less the same way.

Ni!

The server will never be wiped under circumstances that may be controlled. I am happy for this, but I wouldn't object to a new server that follow the classic timeline.

[liveitup1216]

that sounds like a problem with your personal comprehension if you ask me. we don't have to justify ourselves to you. just because you don't wish to believe it doesn't make it any less valid.

I'm not attacking you, I'm genuinely asking why you're against a wipe other than losing your pixels...

We all play here because we love old everquest and playing with people. The only justifiable reason to be against wiping is because you don't want to lose your stuff/characters. How am I the selfish one? I stand to lose just as much and I don't care either way because I enjoy the game, it'd be fun to play in a fresh environment again after 4 years.

The amount of people we'd lose would probably be completely negated by people picking up again. Stop getting your panties in a bunch because of theoretically having your pixels taking away and nerdraging off the server. It's a discussion.

[Norrath]

oh shit, your mean has totally changed my stance on this whole thing! i can't believe how wrong i've been and how right you are!

wait. nevermind. you're still a dumbass.

Some free education for you:

1.) It's meme, not "mean".

2.) It's moron, not "moran".

3.) It's perfectly reasonable to post in a thread titled "5 Great Reasons to Wipe it Clean" about not wanting to wipe the current server, but instead encouraging the opening of a new server.

4.) Any rational person can read the rhetoric between the two of us in this thread and see that I have been trying to rationally communicate with you, and you have been giving me the typed equivalent of:

http://files.sharenator.com/wtf_demotivational_poster-s352x351-139392.jpg

[Rhuma7]

I just want you to know my testimony as an actual new player so you don't think you're speaking for all of them. I bet a lot of new players who don't post in these forums would feel more or less the same way.

You just missed out on a lot of stuff and yes there are groups to be had and whatnot but you are also at the start of a giant mountain that you are unfairly put up against as the price for items is astronomical when it comes to legit means(not reselling in EC tunnel, which requires a huge amount of plat to begin with;RMT)

You are on a journey to the high end that is a brick wall, put up just below the top, with no hope of achieving your epic unless you buy it(besides monk) due to immense boredom and RMT rackets farming the shit out of your epic drops.

There are a plethora of problems on the server that arent evident until you really get to see them for yourself.

While the evil eye might have a long line you are at least on an equal ground with everyone and have an infinitely better chance at getting more out of your time invested in a new server than the journey you are traveling down now, which will lead to mediocrity.

Your mileage may vary and my opinion is an opinion, take it as you will and regardless, I hope you do enjoy your experiences here on p99 and get what you want out of it.

[Samoht]

3.) It's perfectly reasonable to post in a thread titled "5 Great Reasons to Wipe it Clean" about not wanting to wipe the current server, but instead encouraging the opening of a new server.

4.) Any rational person can read the rhetoric between the two of us in this thread and see that I have been trying to rationally communicate with you, and you have been giving me the typed equivalent of:

any suggestions you've made have been proven A) selfish or B) worthless, yet you continue. how rational is it for you to hang on to your desires after they've been debunked and deemed not good for the community?

so instead, you resort to trolling, name calling, and posting memes.

you're just another RNF wannabe on a troll account.

This message is hidden because Norrath is on your ignore list.

that's better.

[Samoht]

You are on a journey to the high end that is a brick wall, put up just below the top, with no hope of achieving your epic unless you buy it(besides monk) due to immense boredom and RMT rackets farming the shit out of your epic drops.

wut

people finish epics every day. the only exception is those requiring trak or VS drops, and that's from poor design that gets (mostly) fixed in velious (poor wizards) and cannot be blamed on a single guild.

shit's classic.

you're clearly clueless about the end game on this server. how is the lag in MM today? still lots of trains?

[Joroz]

The simple solution is make Blue the public "test" server and release a classic server that has 4 years of exploits/bugs fixed.

[aowen]

We all play here because we love old everquest and playing with people. The only justifiable reason to be against wiping is because you don't want to lose your stuff/characters. How am I the selfish one? I stand to lose just as much and I don't care either way because I enjoy the game, it'd be fun to play in a fresh environment again after 4 years.

The amount of people we'd lose would probably be completely negated by people picking up again. Stop getting your panties in a bunch because of theoretically having your pixels taking away and nerdraging off the server. It's a discussion.

What is the main objective of everquest? Oh yeah to level a character and collect gear for him, while having fun along the way. So naturally, you don't want to lose the two things which constitute the only two tangible reasons for playing.

They have this thing called starting another character if you want to restart that process, up to 8 characters! The best thing about this being free is you can have as many accounts as you want, and therefore as many characters as you want, without taking everyone else's away, clogging all the newb zones, and making life miserable in general, just to give rebirth to the same problems we already face now. We should figure out how to solve the problems without resetting everything or they will just be back in the future.

[lecompte]

how is the lag in MM today? still lots of trains?

MM is awesome today. Has a 100% xp bonus on account of the past few weeks of lag and the zone is almost empty (I assume cause people are at work?). I'm loving it.

[lecompte]

PS, I'm against a wipe because the the person(s) who run the server are against a wipe. I come to play their vision, not mine. If I wanted to play my vision I would have to spend a lot of time coding.

[liveitup1216]

I'm sorry, I forgot the front page says "We promise to protect your pixels for eternity, come dupes, RMT, or stagnation."

We all already know the wipe will not happen. Get some air and take a xanax, your characters are safe.

Fact remains, a server wipe after the dupes/ddos is resolved would hands down benefit the server. The ragers who say they will quit will in fact quit, and the forums will have much needless anger. Where's the downside.

[liveitup1216]

Anyway lets have some fun, what would you guys roll if there was a fresh server? I have no idea what I'd even want to play, preferably something I never got to higher level before. Maybe a mage.

[thufir]

You just missed out on a lot of stuff and yes there are groups to be had and whatnot but you are also at the start of a giant mountain that you are unfairly put up against as the price for items is astronomical when it comes to legit means(not reselling in EC tunnel, which requires a huge amount of plat to begin with;RMT)

You are on a journey to the high end that is a brick wall, put up just below the top, with no hope of achieving your epic unless you buy it(besides monk) due to immense boredom and RMT rackets farming the shit out of your epic drops.

There are a plethora of problems on the server that arent evident until you really get to see them for yourself.

While the evil eye might have a long line you are at least on an equal ground with everyone and have an infinitely better chance at getting more out of your time invested in a new server than the journey you are traveling down now, which will lead to mediocrity.

Your mileage may vary and my opinion is an opinion, take it as you will and regardless, I hope you do enjoy your experiences here on p99 and get what you want out of it.

No Rhuma, I am not on a journey that has put me against a brick wall. You see it this way because you have the destination in mind. Your objective is the attainment of the best pixels and the acquisition of the best loot. That is one way to look at the game and I have nothing against anyone who looks at it that way.

I am on a journey where the objective is the journey, and the pixels that drop along the way are a way to assist in me in that journey and nothing more. I want to see and do the things that I never got a chance to do on Live because I spent too much time leveling feverishly in LOIO and the OT to catch up with my friends who were 20 levels ahead of me. I want to stop and smell the roses this time around, conquering things when they were meant to be conquered with the friends I make along the way.

To this end I have defeated the gnoll commander in Blackburrow, XP'd on the 2nd floor of Befallen with a full group, ducked through tiny doors while pulling mobs in the house in Unrest. I have spent hours in Solusek's Eye crawling through to Kindle and the goblin bartender. I have been in Upper Guk and shown the froglok scryer, froglok warden and shin lord that they are no match for me. I have left my sword in the corpses of the High Priest Zaharn and ice giant diplomat in Permafrost Keep. I have been on the 3rd floor of Dalnir killing Kly by the score. I have showed the Avatar of Fear and Tae Ew Archon in Cazic-Thule that their god is weaker than Rallos Zek, slain the goblin warder and Soothsayer Dreszhok in the Temple of Droga, and defeated the Solusek kobold king in Nagafen's lair. This is how I measure success and this is how I have fun in this game. By this yardstick my time on p1999 has been wildly successful thus far and I expect it to continue to be successful.

I completely understand where you are coming from, I only hope that you understand that not everyone plays the game for the reasons you do, even if it seems that a majority of players do because you are an old schooler who reads the forums regularly.

[aowen]

I'm sorry, I forgot the front page says "We promise to protect your pixels for eternity, come dupes, RMT, or stagnation."

We all already know the wipe will not happen. Get some air and take a xanax, your characters are safe.

Fact remains, a server wipe after the dupes/ddos is resolved would hands down benefit the server. The ragers who say they will quit will in fact quit, and the forums will have much needless anger. Where's the downside.

The whole game is pixels, as is every other, that's not a salient point. You'd just be wiping pixels to create new ones, it's your bias against the old ones that's disconcerting. I don't want my mage reincarnated as a noobie. Stagnation in economic terms is when an economy is no longer growing, which is not the case of the server, get your terms straight. The economy isn't frozen. In fact, it's fairly capitalistic, and growing unequally, with power being concentrated into the hands of a few. Sound somewhat familiar with the real world?
Duping can be fixed. RMT is something that will happen regardless, and has little effect on the rest of us. So shut up, and stop trying to impose your will on everyone else. If you don't like the circumstances, I suggest you pack your shit and hit the road you ungrateful ****.

[Splorf22]

You are on a journey to the high end that is a brick wall, put up just below the top, with no hope of achieving your epic unless you buy it(besides monk) due to immense boredom and RMT rackets farming the shit out of your epic drops.

This will not change with a new server or a server wipe. Once again 90% of your argument consists of strawmen.

[Sirken]

we do not wipe