Downtime

[Rogean]

Servers are currently down for database/backend maintenance. They could be down for 1 to 3 hours.

[username17]

asdf

[fouts85]

Woo ! come on bearskin potion bag fix! , Thanks Rogean !

[Rogean]

It's not a patch....

[Rogean]

And stop shilling your guild in news posts.

[Ulwyn]

bear skin potion bag fix?

[Scotty3696]

Could we posssibly get some ip exemptions please?

[Smedy]

It's not a patch....

Lies, MQ Detector update, shits classic

update your builds pals

[Rogean]

Lies, MQ Detector update, shits classic

update your builds pals

Certainly wouldn't take 3 hours =x

[kildone]

:eek:

[Steveyd]

Does it mean people from outside the US can finally zone into TT?!? :)

[kiratachibana]

Almost 3 hours, can't wait for the server to be up again.

[Bantam 1]

How does this kind of downtime affect spawns?

[NGHpnotiq]

As I've understood it, spawn timers actually work off real time, regardless of the server being up or down. The use of the word "Timers" Isn't even really accurate, its more like Mob dies at 7PM, Respawn is 6-8 hours, Then the Code does a check 1AM to see if mob respawns. I could be wrong though.

[Tasslehofp99]

Sometimes when the server goes down there is a full repop of every raid mob, where as others it comes back up and the "timers" keep ticking from where they left off. I think anyway, I'm not sure if there is a way of telling when there will be a repop.

[Bantam 1]

Ah was waiting on a pop... and it should have popped during the downtime..

[Korpskugga]

As I've understood it, spawn timers actually work off real time, regardless of the server being up or down. The use of the word "Timers" Isn't even really accurate, its more like Mob dies at 7PM, Respawn is 6-8 hours, Then the Code does a check 1AM to see if mob respawns. I could be wrong though.

would be nice to know for sure, hope noone has a rez timers expire because server is down for maintenance

[quido]

I hope this does include some bans though

[Rogean]

Mob spawn time is calculated at death. It is stored in memory, and, in case of zone restart, also stored in database. It is based off Unix Timestamp + the generated respawn time of the mob (if it has variance), resulting in a spawn time. If the zone is running this timestamp is checked often if it has triggered (Spawntime < Currenttime ?). These calculations happen rapidly probably every second. If the zone boots up, it loads those timestamps from database, and continues to check them.

Thus, spawn timers are not affected by the zone being up or not.

[Rogean]

I hope this does include some bans though

Why would I bring the server down for 3+ hours to ban people?

[quido]

Update stuff AND ban people!

[Lanzellot]

haha good question rogean ;)and witch peoples mean guido:eek:;)

[quido]

Halt die Klappe, du dumme Kuh!

[Bantam 1]

Mob spawn time is calculated at death. It is stored in memory, and, in case of zone restart, also stored in database. It is based off Unix Timestamp + the generated respawn time of the mob (if it has variance), resulting in a spawn time. If the zone is running this timestamp is checked often if it has triggered (Spawntime < Currenttime ?). These calculations happen rapidly probably every second. If the zone boots up, it loads those timestamps from database, and continues to check them.

Thus, spawn timers are not affected by the zone being up or not.

How would hadden be handled then? Would the server assume he despawned?

[Lanzellot]

das war jetzt aber hart deutsche schimpfwörter?;)

[Elson]

Rogean, how much longer till servers are back up? (why did noone think to ask this sooner?)

[Korpskugga]

Rogean, how much longer till servers are back up? (why did noone think to ask this sooner?)

Cause asking a tech this question usually just adds time to the eta...(better to let em work on geting it back online)

[NGHpnotiq]

Rogean, how much longer till servers are back up? (why did noone think to ask this sooner?)

Because Asking this kind of question rarely does anything useful other then distract Rogean from what hes doing to answer it.

If they are still down, obviously its still being worked on.. when its done.. they will be back up?! If a problem happens, I'm sure Rogean will share more info.

[Elson]

[QUOTE=NGHpnotiq;1069741]Because Asking this kind of question rarely does anything useful other then distract Rogean from what hes doing to answer it.QUOTE]

He's responding to other posts, but responding to this one would be distracting?.....

[Xump]

Considering that we are past the 3 hour mark, the servers will be up "Soon".

[Rogean]

How would hadden be handled then? Would the server assume he despawned?

wat? it would be handled the same?

[Luethar]

Been 4 hours since original post. ETA on server being back up?

Lue.

[Rogean]

EQLive used to be down for 8 hours during maintenance.

Dealwithit.jpg

[Luethar]

Am trying!

Face it Rogean, you are the crack dealer, I am a junkie. Just.. one... more... score...... *passes out*

Lue.

[Rogean]

Might be another hour atleast.

[Karnaji]

Keep up the good work, mighty overlord.

[Elson]

(Rogean) Is your hair like the picture of your avatar? Just curious..... :)

[Rogean]

(Rogean) Is your hair like the picture of your avatar? Just curious..... :)

newp

http://www.rogean.com/images/mesmall.png

[Karnaji]

newp

http://www.rogean.com/images/mesmall.png

Grow that beard out.

Do it.

[shummit]

Grow that beard out.

Do it.

do eett.

then you can stick head out the window;

http://www.indyweek.com/imager/benji-hughes-tight-tee-shirt/b/original/1326489/5be8/sotw-web.jpg

[kiratachibana]

Blue is locked... Going up soon? :)

[Krankor]

I just woke up and downtime I didn't even know about isn't done? How dare you. Where are my torches?

[kiratachibana]

Oh... Just the minute I posted the last one and it is down again... Still waiting~

[Tasslehofp99]

newp

http://www.rogean.com/images/mesmall.png

You driving in v-dub? looks like mk4 jetta/golf interior

[Karnaji]

do eett.

then you can stick head out the window;

http://www.indyweek.com/imager/benji-hughes-tight-tee-shirt/b/original/1326489/5be8/sotw-web.jpg

All of my yes.

[Rogean]

You driving in v-dub? looks like mk4 jetta/golf interior

no, my evo

[Purdee]

no, my evo

hopefully an VIII or a IX?

=)

[Rogean]

hopefully an VIII or a IX?

=)

X

[kunark_lizzie]

Just curious what is involved in backend/database maintenance? I mean, is this like defragmenting your hard drive, updating OS and other software, etc?

Thx for the updates and keeping P99 going. It really is so much fun.

Edit: and apparently staying up all night working on this?!!

[Rogean]

hopefully an VIII or a IX?

=)

Well it's a tuned up ralliart so I guess it has an X Engine and an IX Transmission...

X Body though. Looks sick.

[Purdee]

*nod & thumbs up*

[Vega]

It's not a patch....

Fixed, pending db update.

[Gnomersy]

locked server is like a dealer flashing the goods and then wanting to talk about it.....

[Calabee]

newp

http://www.rogean.com/images/mesmall.png

i'd hit it, and im not even gay!

[Karnaji]

ITS UP LOG IN FOOLS

[Swish]

IT'S UP!

[Karnaji]

Token "its my day off, I finally get time to play and the server is down" post.

No maintenance thread should be without one.

Are red and blue coming up together? :)

They're both already up!

[Mickets]

PRAISE THE LORD

and by lord I mean rogean, obviously.

[Acrux Bcrux]

Mob spawn time is calculated at death. It is stored in memory, and, in case of zone restart, also stored in database. It is based off Unix Timestamp + the generated respawn time of the mob (if it has variance), resulting in a spawn time. If the zone is running this timestamp is checked often if it has triggered (Spawntime < Currenttime ?). These calculations happen rapidly probably every second. If the zone boots up, it loads those timestamps from database, and continues to check them.

Thus, spawn timers are not affected by the zone being up or not.

Last Dojo anyone?

[Agatha]

im wondering rogean, I logged in expecting a repop cause i guess i don't know how things work. anyways, i came back to no tranix, that i had just killed before downtime, but the skarlon was up(i didnt have time to kill this) but before the server shut down, he was holding a sword, and when the server came back up. he wasn't.

[-Catherin-]

tranix actually got killed immediately upon server up. I logged in a toon there to watch IB taking him out

[Agatha]

tranix actually got killed immediately upon server up. I logged in a toon there to watch IB taking him out

so the server was a full repop then?

[Thulack]

tranix actually got killed immediately upon server up. I logged in a toon there to watch IB taking him out

ag's might have been talking about on red.

[Agatha]

ag's might have been talking about on red.

yes was talking about red, if it was a full repop, people would be working on the boss mobs, but they arnt. so im a bit confused.

[Thulack]

yes was talking about red, if it was a full repop, people would be working on the boss mobs, but they arnt. so im a bit confused.

what probably happens is server just checks to see if mob was up or not when servers came down then repops them if they were. probably doesnt take loot tables into account. So when servers went down Skarlon was up and had sword. when came back he was still up but with no sword. I'd put money on the whole timers not being reset notion being wrong. To many mobs have spawned at wrong times after server goes down for that to be accurate(example is Dojo, his ass is random as shit anymore)

[Agatha]

so say i killed tranix at 245am, while the server was down, was it still tickin? or does it continue ticking once server is back up. I kinda understand Rogean was trying to explain this in a pervious post but for some reason i cant really make sense of what he is saying.

[Thulack]

so say i killed tranix at 245am, while the server was down, was it still tickin? or does it continue ticking once server is back up. I kinda understand Rogean was trying to explain this in a pervious post but for some reason i cant really make sense of what he is saying.

He was saying that the timer should still continue to count down but it doesnt always seem to work that way.

[-Catherin-]

the timer continues to tick when the server is down, so if tranix should have repopped while the server was down, he will be up. (in theory)

[Mickets]

Hey can anyone tell me if theres problems with combines after this downtime? Either that or I guess I'm going full retard on part of the sham epic.

[Ashintar]

There are at least two posts in the Bugs forum about combines not working.

[Mickets]

Damn I was checking technical support like a fucking moron. Sorry carry on.

[Ephi]

the timer continues to tick when the server is down, so if tranix should have repopped while the server was down, he will be up. (in theory)

There is no timer. The times are stored as an exact time (e.g. "Sunday Aug 11 12:34pm EST"), not a countdown (e.g. "3 days 21 hours 13 minutes 7 seconds til next spawn"). The timestamp of the next spawn is determined at the death of the previous.

[Llodd]

stealth patch? :)

I didn't think maintenance could cause game bugs?

[gotrocks]

so incredibly disappointed rog doesnt have avatar hair

[Ele]

There is no timer. The times are stored as an exact time (e.g. "Sunday Aug 11 12:34pm EST"), not a countdown (e.g. "3 days 21 hours 13 minutes 7 seconds til next spawn"). The timestamp of the next spawn is determined at the death of the previous.

Quoting for future reference for people that don't believe me.

[utmello93]

Could we posssibly get some ip exemptions please?

I agree though.