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Inconceivable
07-14-2010, 02:17 PM
Just curious what the best warrior race is? I heard someone say Wood Elf because they get an hp bonus or something? But others say ogre.

VincentVolaju
07-14-2010, 02:21 PM
Depends, if your going for just straight tanking stats, Ogre by far, + slam + immune to stun. If you dont like being an Ogre / Evil, Dwarf is 2nd best imo. Only 13str 5sta less then a Barb, but they have 20 more dex starting off (90) + they are small so never need to have shrink pots.

BeelzeBob
07-14-2010, 02:22 PM
You should listen to others, because someone is feeding you lies!

savarin
07-14-2010, 02:27 PM
Gnome.

guineapig
07-14-2010, 02:34 PM
Just curious what the best warrior race is? I heard someone say Wood Elf

You have been talking to President! ;)

Ropethunder
07-14-2010, 02:55 PM
GNOME!

Dersk
07-14-2010, 03:19 PM
Halflings. Screw the xp bonus, they have hide and sneak~

frefaln
07-14-2010, 03:23 PM
Halflings. Screw the xp bonus, they have hide and sneak~

Wait, what? Halflings can both Hide and Sneak as racial abilities? Tell me you're mistaken 'cause if not I'm pissed for never trying a Halfling. The biggest reason I went w/ Rogue was for the Sneak+Hide combo.

guineapig
07-14-2010, 03:26 PM
Wait, what? Halflings can both Hide and Sneak as racial abilities? Tell me you're mistaken 'cause if not I'm pissed for never trying a Halfling. The biggest reason I went w/ Rogue was for the Sneak+Hide combo.

Yes they get both. They just can't move while hidden like rogues can.
The abilities are also capped at 50 and you don't get a success message.

girth
07-14-2010, 03:28 PM
Iksar or Ogre in my opinion.

frefaln
07-14-2010, 03:29 PM
Ohhhh, right, right. I feel much better then. I was about to roll a Halfling Pally on a new, non-banned account and have him sneak-hide all over the place, but if they can't move while hidden that kills the buzz.

Messianic
07-14-2010, 04:10 PM
Sneak is still really useful.

My monk used it constantly when traversing dungeons, pulling, etc. As mentioned before, no success message, but still pretty handy. It was also useful against merchants - "What? You glower at me so I can't trade with you?" ::sneak behind, initiates trade activity with same merchant::

However, it's certainly not more handy (aggregated) than no frontal stun, slam, and really good stats, since you spend more time getting hit than sneaking or deceiving merchants. You're a friggin warrior, after all.

PhelanKA
07-14-2010, 04:11 PM
Troll was nice as a noob (HP Regen), but the xp penalty isn't worth the lack of utility you get with an ogre IMO. That's not to say trolls are bad. I loved my troll warrior on live but if I had to do it all over again I'd try ogre next time.

Dantes
07-14-2010, 04:38 PM
Just curious what the best warrior race is? I heard someone say Wood Elf because they get an hp bonus or something? But others say ogre.

No HP bonus, but Wood Elves are the sexiest. As yourself if you want to be ugly or sexy.

But seriously though... What you gain in Stamina by going Ogre is offset by the negatives. Not fitting into some dungeons and having to ask for shrink. Being KOS in many cities. Plus, if you are one of those folks who believe AC is king, a high starting AGI can give you a nice bonus.

Reiker
07-14-2010, 05:18 PM
Ogre is best until the extreme high end game (very end Velious), and then Iksar is slightly better/equal.

PhelanKA
07-14-2010, 05:25 PM
Ogre is best until the extreme high end game (very end Velious), and then Iksar is slightly better/equal.

Why's that?

frefaln
07-14-2010, 05:30 PM
Innate AC bonuses. Plus, Iksar WAR is just plain badass-looking. But that was my main so I'm admittedly a little biased.

Also, someone above mentioned the downside to playing a big friggin' Ogre. I don't think this can/should be underestimated. Where's all the good loot? In dungeons and cramped spaces. In an emergency situation I want to be a tank who can move about freely and quickly, not get slaughtered by a dozen mobs because I've slammed my head into a torch and can't move. Mobility is key.

I'm not taking anything away from Ogres, I just don't think their supposed advantages are as extreme as people tend to think.

maya
07-14-2010, 05:46 PM
As yourself if you want to be ugly or sexy.

How bout ugly + sexy? Ogre female.

Yoite
07-14-2010, 05:47 PM
i picked a halfling for my war cause they can sneak so i can sell to any merchant and hide so i can afk invis and not get trained and because they look funny when they tank big mobs =)

President
07-14-2010, 05:50 PM
You have been talking to President! ;)

I'm half elf.....

Lowlife
07-14-2010, 06:29 PM
From a min/max standpoint, Ogre, personally I like Iksar or Dwarf

azuren
07-14-2010, 06:33 PM
sneak = win.

frefaln
07-14-2010, 06:40 PM
Just out of curiosity I'd like to hear more first-hand info from players that have rolled tanking classes which utilize Sneak. There are a few wide-open zones where (as a Rogue) just Sneak was enough, but in almost any place worth hunting (Sol A, within Mistmoore Castle, depths of Guk), I needed to Sneak-Hide to get anywhere. A lot of static mobs spawn in pairs and are positioned to face each other from opposite corners, so while your Sneak allows you to get behind one you're simultaneously in frontal view of another.

I can't imagine a tank being able to Sneak very far without blowing his cover, but I'd love to hear how I'm wrong. Details, please!

Dantes
07-14-2010, 07:06 PM
As a DE I have a hide button, it doesn't seem to work worth a shit. I thought people rolled Assling because of the exp bonus?

Tronjer
07-14-2010, 07:24 PM
Barbi is compromise between Ogre/Trolls and ... well... midgets.

Noleafclover
07-14-2010, 09:38 PM
Being a large race isn't a big deal, shrink pots are 20p a use if you can't bother a shaman for one and there's no shammy in group. Neither is being evil, IMO, can raise FP faction and get solid exp in HPH round 15 (loot scalps), and EC round 8 (same thing) if you want faction with the one really useful good city. There're tons of gypsies out there to vendor with.

Warrior is a class you DO want to min/max, so I highly recommend ogre. As a cleric when I group w/ small-race tanks I sigh a little. I lose mana efficiency on CH.

~Ennui Monk WI
~ Vita 39 Cleric

Oh and hey man, didn't even read who started the thread :P

Bubbles
07-14-2010, 10:04 PM
Half Elves look the best in plate armor, and that's a fact.

And yeah, vanity is how I make all my decisions. :)

Darkrainhunter
07-14-2010, 10:36 PM
Human FTW!

I did notice that back on live most of the other Warriors Kunark and on where Barbs and some Ogres on my server though.

zenoo
07-15-2010, 02:20 AM
I chose dark elf because I love ultravision and just like the race because I used to play dark elf casters.

As far as min/max it is for sure ogre. The innate stats are a great help early and then no frontal stuns is pretty important in some late game fights.

Walabaego
07-15-2010, 02:25 AM
Ogres, immune to stun from the front, win.

Evorix
07-15-2010, 03:13 AM
I'm a warrior and I love my dorf... if you are trying to be the best raid warrior I would suggest rolling an Ogre.

Yilza Moosik
07-18-2010, 01:52 PM
Ogre! That way I get the chicks. And I got my Guise for tanking!

Win/win

Kambris
07-18-2010, 01:57 PM
Gnome warriors.


GNOMERCY.
/anklebite

Uaellaen
07-18-2010, 02:13 PM
Ogre! That way I get the chicks. And I got my Guise for tanking!

Win/win

you mean if you would be playing :p

purist
07-18-2010, 02:19 PM
Gnomes look like mobile trash cans in plate, therefore, they're the best race.

Chodan
07-18-2010, 02:22 PM
Gnomes look like mobile trash cans in plate, therefore, they're the best race.

This man speaks truth.

PureLo
07-18-2010, 02:32 PM
Trolls are always l33t :)

Messianic
07-19-2010, 08:40 AM
Gnomes look like mobile trash cans in plate, therefore, they're the best race.

Post of the day for yesterday

Barthorn
07-19-2010, 09:24 PM
gnome