To allow MQ's or Not

[musashi1612]

just posting this cause i see alot of people saying remove epic MQ's which im not limiting it to just Epic MQ's. Even if its like the no account trading that would be great No posting of MQ's no public listing of epic MQ's nothing of the sort would be on the forums imo the most reasonable idea Thoughts?

[Swish]

Remove MQs, for the sake of letting everyone who wants an epic being able to do it without farmers pushing in ahead of them.

...oh, and stopping lazy people throwing plat at TMO :p

[musashi1612]

Remove MQs, for the sake of letting everyone who wants an epic being able to do it without farmers pushing in ahead of them.

...oh, and stopping lazy people throwing plat at TMO :p

the man has a point http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=119673
hitler himself wouldnt charge those kinda prices Shit Needs to be exiled from the forums just like account trading its a risk all the same

[Atmas]

MQs are classic and I really doubt having them removed would accomplish whatever you think it would accomplish.

[Nuggie]

MQs are classic and I really doubt having them removed would accomplish whatever you think it would accomplish.

Not much would change for most epic mq's( cleric). The only difference would be you would pay for loot rights and have the lowbie char in the field.

[pharmakos]

allow MQs, disallow the *sale* of them

[Pint]

allow MQs, disallow the *sale* of them

Yea let's throw mqs in with account trading and make it all unground, temptation to pay with cash money will surely decrease as a result..

[White Ranger]

allow MQs, disallow the *sale* of them

lol, grow up commie. Like I said before, casual scumbags not having their epic weapons is classic. If you remove the sale of MQs, TMO will do their duty to the server and delete any epic pieces they can't use in order to keep this server classic. Just be happy you can still buy them.

[pharmakos]

the motivation to beat TMO at their own game would be even greater if no one could buy MQs

the RMT point is moot, because a huge chunk of the plat going towards epic MQs was probably already RMT'd anyway

[Swish]

casual scumbags not having their epic weapons is classic...

Obvious troll, but that aside... I know that Ragefire for my cleric epic would have been a lot less stressful without TMO scouts (and others) logging in to check Ragefire every 20-30 minutes.

Everyone does have the opportunity, but throwing out the MQs will force people to work for it rather than buy it. Could certain plat websites be starved without account sales/MQs? Maybe not, but certainly hampered ;)

[Tecmos Deception]

Eccezan shouts, "WTS ct/vs/inny/Fay loot rights, since we can't sell MQs anymore. PST!"

I also resent swish implying that making enough pp to buy epic MQs ISN'T "working for it."

[Atmas]

I also resent swish implying that making enough pp to buy epic MQs ISN'T "working for it."

Yep. I was also going to say something about this point. A lot of the gear people have on their toons was not something they personally looted. However, they put in the time and energy elsewhere to get the plat. The same is true in the real world where I doubt many people crafted their own house or each item furnishing it. I wouldn't tell them they didn't work for what they have.

[Tecmos Deception]

I mean, it's definitely not the same, but it's time and effort nonetheless. I get a lot of "damn you sure are twinked. i prefer to work for my gear though" when I'm leveling alts, as if my gear just materialized out of thin air the first time I logged my alt on or something.

[timhutton]

Yep. I was also going to say something about this point. A lot of the gear people have on their toons was not something they personally looted. However, they put in the time and energy elsewhere to get the plat. The same is true in the real world where I doubt many people crafted their own house or each item furnishing it. I wouldn't tell them they didn't work for what they have.

Good analogy since people usually pay for their homes in real life currency.

Not all too different than how most people are buying 400k epic MQs.

[Ephi]

Multi-questing is/was classic, so... you're pretty much SOL on this argument ;)

[pharmakos]

allow MQs, disallow the *sale* of them

sorta like friends can share accounts, but we're no longer allowed to sell them...

[spoils]

Multi-questing is/was classic, so... you're pretty much SOL on this argument ;)

on top of that most u anti-mq fuckfaces probably don't remember "WTS Thurg Silk/Chain/Plate MQs, you provide gems".

MQing is a godsend when Velious comes around...don't even act like it wasn't and don't even try to say "zomg earn that shit yourselves"...when you get your 10th plate bracer and not the greaves or bp...hell some pieces of silk/leather were rare as hell and it would be pretty shitty to let that rot when you could make some plat off it

[wrxBRAH]

Problem isn't the MQing but inflated economy, which is caused by too much time between expansions. I do find it hilarious when there are comments like

Multi-questing is/was classic, so... you're pretty much SOL on this argument ;)

yet there are countless other "non classic" features on this server.

[mgellan]

Remember MQ also allows people to mess up handins and not have the items poof... so there's value above and beyond sales of MQs...

Regards,
Mg

[spoils]

yep and messups happened in velious...but i mean...yay for things respawning and dropping again someday!

[runlvlzero]

I would vote no MQ's because I am a purist in the sense that people rarely MQ'd on live in 2001 and it creates a gay as fuck economy/server environment here.

Also why no poll... that was gonna be my first post. Put up a poll dood. Its in "thread tools".

[Atmas]

Good analogy since people usually pay for their homes in real life currency.

Not all too different than how most people are buying 400k epic MQs.

Yep, everyone who has anything must have cheated to get it.

[runlvlzero]

Not to force either option on anyone, but if a choice had to be made, I would chose to go without. I mean thats the point of the thread IMO. Not to bemoan or slander people with their MQs. Would rather play on a box without.

[timhutton]

Multi-questing is/was classic, so... you're pretty much SOL on this argument ;)

You act like that's why things happen around here.

[Nirgon]

Multi-questing is/was classic, so... you're pretty much SOL on this argument ;)

Yeah but getting them MQ'd to you without prerequisite max faction or being lvl 50 isn't.

Don't make me come at you!

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=91574&page=5 (read: sup)

[Casezilla]

I would vote no MQ's because I am a purist in the sense that people rarely MQ'd on live in 2001
I did (Pegasus feather cloak) and I know many others that did as well. There were a few items that were MQed regularly. A lot of MQing early on live was gifted between friends and guildmates rather than sold publicly though.

The main difference with P99 is that Kunark has been the most recent expansion for much much longer than it was on live. On live, top guilds moved on from epic mobs to focus on Velious progression once their core was epic equipped. That left epic mobs to lower tier guilds that still needed the drops. On P99, the top guilds are still after the same mobs, so many more epic drops aren't needed by the guild doing the killing and are therefore available for MQing.

[Wotsirb401]

Anytime you make a rule you create a black market anyway. Not allowing characters to be sold or traded.. people just use other means of communication to buy characters for real $ or platinum and say it was a gift or a transfer. Basically the same as buying drugs or humans


If MQ's werent allowed there would be a whole lot of account sharing going on