Going to Prison...hopefully Velious will be released when I return.

[SNIPERS]

So I got my letter today and I have to self surrender next month to the Camp in Three Rivers, TX anyone have any good info on this place? I was sentenced to 18 months on August 8th and I just got a register number yesterday with the FBOP. I am just awaiting my letter to tell me when and where to be. My parole officer seems to think it might be closer to 90 days but we shall see.

Anyways, by the time I get back, hope Velious is released...

[JayN]

fuck texas yo; such a shit whole id flee immediately

[Itap]

enjoy your trip

[Swish]

See if you can convert some inmates to the R99 cause, see you in 2016.

[SNIPERS]

if i could get in the SHU with a computer and p99 I would be able to overtake Nihilum on red99 and TMO on blue99 no problem...

[Thulack]

fuck texas yo; such a shit whole id flee immediately

hole*

Can't really call a place a shit hole and screw it up without looking silly.

[Loli Pops]

What did you do?

[Thulack]

18 months and might get 30 days and in Texas. I would put money on drugs or assault.

[Ephirith]

I once heard there was someone on p99 playing from a swedish prison. Go to sweden yo

[JayN]

hole*

Can't really call a place a shit hole and screw it up without looking silly.

as in the whole thing of texas!

[CharlesBarkley]

oh, it seems i have some info here on your cool jail

*rustles papers together and clears throat, begins to read from them*

You're not gonna have a great time at jail

[Swish]

oh, it seems i have some info here on your cool jail

*rustles papers together and clears throat, begins to read from them*

You're not gonna have a great time at jail

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5064/5759306457_a47314148d_z.jpg

[Thulack]

as in the whole thing of texas!

using hole in shit hole and using whole as in whole state are 2 completely different things.

[Estolcles]

Don't drop the soap!

[SNIPERS]

I try to think of it as something positive coming out of a negative experience. I plead down to 18 months with early parole rather than facing a 4 year sentence.

I don't think i'll come out with many scratches, I don't doubt myself...in order to survive you just have to have some common sense and not portray weakness. 95% of you e-thugs will most likely get punked on the first day and end up someone's bitch anyways so troll on.

I know a quite a few ex-convicts and the magnitude media portrays really isn't what's actually going down.

[Bazia]

lion bro what did you do to get 18 months?

drugs are bad yo

[SNIPERS]

Not going to get into specifics but lets say it involved an onion of blow, an unregistered glock 17 and a shopping cart

[Estolcles]

Not going to get into specifics but lets say it involved an onion of blow, an unregistered glock 17 and a shopping cart

Ok, I get the first two...

.. but a Shopping cart?

Was there some "Jackass" level stupidity going on?

[Gaffin Deeppockets]

its gonna be harsh pal, once you accept no family or friends or a long time you begin to block it out. other than that, its just slow days for the first couple months then you get to do different shit than go walk around and eat, but still days seem longer than they ever would outside of prison

[Estolcles]

Use your time with whatever weights they have around. Get buff.

[pharmakos]

you're gonna get three meals a day prepared for you and handed to you (through a slot probably). probably gonna get to watch a bunch of TV (but with limited channel selection). and there will be a pretty big selection of books you can read.

i know its a way shorter time, but i spent three weeks in county jail once. it really wasn't so bad. i made a good friend that i still hang out with to this day, learned a bunch about growing weed, played a lot of cards, and watched FX 12 hours a day.

prison food is supposed to be better than jail food. i know of one prison that allows inmates to order KFC with their commissary money lol.

[Bazia]

thanks for being a faggot and now its gonna cost us all money to lock you up

[Gaffin Deeppockets]

wow your pretty bitter bazia, alot of people get off not even guilty because they actually didnt do anything, people like you i wish were locked up once just to see how real society is not sitting on your couch.

[Nads]

fuck texas yo; such a shit whole id flee immediately

Clearly never been to Houston, Austin or San Antonio. Dallas on the other hand..yeah fuck Dallas (Cowboys, Mavericks, Stars, Rangers, etc.)

[Barkingturtle]

Some of my best friends became thoroughly-committed white supremacists in prison.

[Estolcles]

Some of my best friends became thoroughly-committed white supremacists in prison.

Time to lose some friends it seems.

[mtb tripper]

Hey man no joke, use this time to your advantage, pick up the old geetar

[Ephirith]

Watch out for your cornhole buddy

[Bazia]

wow your pretty bitter bazia, alot of people get off not even guilty because they actually didnt do anything, people like you i wish were locked up once just to see how real society is not sitting on your couch.

My father has been in prison since i was 4 and my brother has been multiple times, I'm familiar with the system as a frequent visitor unfortunately.

Still pisses me off that I have to pay for other people making retarded decisions. Make them foot the fucking bill when they get out.

[pharmakos]

http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2013/04/04/prison-labor-and-taxpayer-dollars/

American companies that once looked to places like Mexico and China for cheap labor are bringing those jobs back to the U.S. Why? Because prison labor is much, much cheaper. Paid between 93¢ and $4.73 per day, and collecting no benefits, prisoners are a cheap labor source for about 100 companies (source).

What does this have to do with you?

If you have insurance, invest, use utilities, have a bank, drive a car, send a child to school, go to a dentist, call service centers, fly on planes, take prescription drugs, or use paper, you might be benefiting from prison labor.

If you’ve bought products by or from Starbucks, Nintendo, Victoria’s Secret, JC Penney, Sears, Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Eddie Bauer, Wendy’s, Proctor & Gamble, Johnson & Johnson, Fruit of the Loom, Motorola, Caterpiller, Sara Lee, Quaker Oats, Mary Kay, or Microsoft, you are part of this system.

When prisoners are in state and federal prisons, the U.S. taxpayer is subsidizing low wages and corporate profits, since they are paying for prisoners’ room, board, and health care. When prisoners are in private prisons, prison labor is a way to make more money off of the human beings caught in the corrections industry. In other words, prison labor is an efficient way for corporations to continue to increase their profits without sharing those gains with their employees.

[Loli Pops]

It's pretty easy to avoid jail. Like all you have to do is not break the law.

[Fame]

Keep ya head up. Worst thing you can do is buy-in to the whole " I do deserve to be in here, I'm a bad person" bullshit they feed ya. Oh, and before ya go..

FUCK THE POLICE!

[Bazia]

lol yeah no one in prison deserves to be there

got rocks?

[MrSparkle001]

Good luck. I was a CO and my brother still is, so I know you will be tested by the other inmates. It will be psychological. And crazy as it sounds, minimum security can be more dangerous than medium.

[SNIPERS]

Good luck. I was a CO and my brother still is, so I know you will be tested by the other inmates. It will be psychological. And crazy as it sounds, minimum security can be more dangerous than medium.

This is medium security place. Read on wiki there was a huge riot a few years back that resulted in a death.

I know i'll get a heartcheck, i'm not to worried about that...the kind of lifestyle I've dipped in the past, you kind of have to learn how to stand up for yourself and not get punked. It's all about respect once you're in the joint and common sense. Only thing I'm worried about it how to spend my time.

[Bohab]

I'm actually surprised you have to register a gun in TX...

[timhutton]

wow your pretty bitter bazia, alot of people get off not even guilty because they actually didnt do anything, people like you i wish were locked up once just to see how real society is not sitting on your couch.

You heard it here first folks.. you need to get locked up in order to experience "real society".

[Swish]

Not going to get into specifics...

Systolic is that you?

[Raavak]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHjlM5A1jME

[Gaffin Deeppockets]

You heard it here first folks.. you need to get locked up in order to experience "real society".

yeah learn to not be a little homo actin hard behind a keyboard.

[timhutton]

Not acting hard behind a keyboard, is that your idea of "real society"?

I don't think you need to commit a crime and be penetrated in order to experience that, sorry. Going outside every once in awhile works just fine for most people.

[Nikon]

lol yeah no one in prison deserves to be there

got rocks?

Red: You're gonna fit right in. Everyone in here is innocent, you know that? Heywood, what you in here for?

Heywood: Didn't do it. Lawyer fucked me.

[Swish]

Know much about accountancy? Could do the guards tax returns and get extra priveliges :p

[FoxxHound]

Get liquid soap sir.

[Thulack]

Know much about accountancy? Could do the guards tax returns and get extra priveliges :p

Don't forget your rock hammer and jane mansfield poster :)

[Estolcles]

Don't forget your rock hammer and jane mansfield poster :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYGald0tFro

[SNIPERS]

Know much about accountancy? Could do the guards tax returns and get extra priveliges :p

It is general knowledge that you don't talk to CO's. Inmates will get the wrong idea if you're seen chatting with them too long and think you're a snitch. Worst case scenario you'll get a shiv to the kidney.

[Hasbinbad]

gaffin you're stupider than dredge

[Hasbinbad]

Get liquid soap sir.
works real gud as lube

[abacab-winner]

I'll give you some rules:

#1 people in there are not your friend, if someone is overly friendly the moment you hit the block don't trust him, keep your distance and your guard up; he's trying to sucker you into following him somewhere (to play cards, his bunk to show you something etc.) he's trying to lure you away from CO's and security cameras so him and his pals can shake you down for commissary money.

Point blank, you don't want a couple dudes beating the shit out of you to get your book money.

#2 Force rules here, if someone's starts shit you best be the one that finishes it; it doesn't matter if knocking some dude out will get you sent to the hole or revokes your privileges, 90-days in solitary is much better than that one inmate telling a hundred others that you're a bitch/punk/pussy because if they sense any weakness from you then your next 18 months will be decided by whoever decides to fuck with you the most.

#3 When eating never eat in the center of the room, as you can be attacked from all sides, try to get a table near a wall.

#4 Don't talk any shit, don't brag about anything; keep your head down and only be cordial if you have to.

#5 Don't talk about any personal shit, like where you're from or who you're related to; lie if you have to because people on the inside have people on the outside and if they really want to extort you they can and will go after your friends and family.

#6 When buying commissary only buy what you think you need for the week, if you hard and buy a shit ton of soda, candy, ramen etc. then you're making yourself a target for robbery and extortion; remember you're sharing your cell with criminals so don't just leave property around or show these other criminals that you have money.

#7 Stick with your own race, prison is racist as shit and if you're a white dude and you're talking to some latino or some black rather frequently you make yourself out to be a target by racially-influenced gangs; in short stick with your own skin color to avoid an ass raping by the Aryans.

#8 Spend as much time in your cell working out and reading, less time out n the block = less chance of making enemies or getting caught up in shit.

#9 On the yard occupy yourself as much as possible, show that you're physically strong, if you sit around talking and looking like a stick you then become a target; people are less likely to jump you if you look "tough" as opposed to some lanky nerd.

#10 Don't tell on anybody period, even if it's the most minor of things like an inmate sneaking cigarettes; you tell anyone else or god forbid a C.O then you're in trouble pal.

[kingsBlend]

DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT ACCEPT THE PACK OF M&M's GIFTED TO YOU FROM THE PAISAS AS SOON AS YOU GET THERE. The coating of the m and m 's are used for lipstick and by accepting the "gift" you are automatically their bitch.

[Stabbyjoe]

I did 13 months in South Mississippi Correctional Institute. Prison isn't dangerous unless you're stupid enough to join a "gang". If that's the case you might get a 10 inch piece of straightened & sharpened chainlink fence through your kidney.
Rape doesn't really occur very often in prison anymore because there's enough willing gays in there.
Best thing to do is get a job on a work crew (if you're in out-custody) so you can feel freedom every day. Also if you're on a work crew you usually get fed more.

If you're really going to prison, keep your head up. Don't let the concrete get to you or you'll be miserable.

[Estolcles]

Damn we have a lot of ex-cons on p99...

[Thulack]

2 days was most i did and that was just in THU in city prison. I could def see bulking up if alot of time is spend in jail. nothing really to do other then play spades,exercise, and sleep

[SNIPERS]

I'm going to try to get a job right away...maybe in the shop or maintenance. I personally don't want any kitchen duty as it's more of a chance to get caught up in the smuggling.

I need to quit smoking cigarettes or I'm going to be in real trouble in there with the crave.

The whole race thing, I know but I'm 1/2 Vietnamese and 1/2 Russian...doubt there are many asian people in there =x

[Stabbyjoe]

Shop and maintenence are still on the compound. You're still behind steel and concrete. If all you have is a drug charge you should be in some sort of out-custody. Which means you'll be able to get a job with city/county work crews or churches. You'll have a guard with a high powered rifle watching you all day... but atleast you're "out".
I was in for a violent crime (burglary of an occupied dwelling) and I was still able to get B-Out custody. I don't know exactly what the difference is.. just that I wore black and white stripes and the A-Out guys wore green and white.

[Barkingturtle]

Damn we have a lot of ex-cons on p99...

We have a lot of ex-cons in the U.S. Producing them is a whole industry.

[Gaffin Deeppockets]

We have a lot of ex-cons in the U.S. Producing them is a whole industry.

thats because economy fucking sucks

[Raavak]

http://www.gdriveurl.com/?idl=113778017707&out=1

[timhutton]

Damn we have a lot of ex-cons on p99...

And drug addicts
and transvestites
and virgins

EQ just attracts these kinds of people apparently.

thats because economy fucking sucks

Are you honestly saying that the reason we have so many cons in the U.S. is because the economy sucks? Holy shit you are a moron.

#realsociety

[timhutton]

BRB U.S. economy is in the gutter, gotta go steal some cash from the trailer park to buy some crack with

Damn murica, making life so hard

#realsociety

[Bantam 1]

http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2013/04/04/prison-labor-and-taxpayer-dollars/

American companies that once looked to places like Mexico and China for cheap labor are bringing those jobs back to the U.S. Why? Because prison labor is much, much cheaper. Paid between 93¢ and $4.73 per day, and collecting no benefits, prisoners are a cheap labor source for about 100 companies (source).

What does this have to do with you?

If you have insurance, invest, use utilities, have a bank, drive a car, send a child to school, go to a dentist, call service centers, fly on planes, take prescription drugs, or use paper, you might be benefiting from prison labor.

If you’ve bought products by or from Starbucks, Nintendo, Victoria’s Secret, JC Penney, Sears, Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Eddie Bauer, Wendy’s, Proctor & Gamble, Johnson & Johnson, Fruit of the Loom, Motorola, Caterpiller, Sara Lee, Quaker Oats, Mary Kay, or Microsoft, you are part of this system.

When prisoners are in state and federal prisons, the U.S. taxpayer is subsidizing low wages and corporate profits, since they are paying for prisoners’ room, board, and health care. When prisoners are in private prisons, prison labor is a way to make more money off of the human beings caught in the corrections industry. In other words, prison labor is an efficient way for corporations to continue to increase their profits without sharing those gains with their employees.

I don't know if I see a problem here. Personally I prefer that they did things for the public good, but at least they are making some people money instead of doing nothing.

I also don't buy the "stuck in the system" stuff.

[pharmakos]

supposedly there are lobbyists from the major corporations trying to pull strings in washington so that there will be more and cheaper labor available in prisons.

some conspiracy theorists even believe that the war on drugs is just a secret way to increase profits for prisons.

[abacab-winner]

BRB U.S. economy is in the gutter, gotta go steal some cash from the trailer park to buy some crack with

Damn murica, making life so hard

#realsociety

You're so dumb, that you forget the economy works two ways.

It's not people that go "oh man economy is bad better smoke crack" it's corporations that go "can't afford minimum wage (lol) better hire prisoners for $0.06 a day!" so big time corporate lobbyists spend millions on state campaigns strengthening misdemeanor laws on the books to have some sort of mandatory sentence.

[timhutton]

You're so dumb, that you forget the economy works two ways.

It's not people that go "oh man economy is bad better smoke crack" it's corporations that go "can't afford minimum wage (lol) better hire prisoners for $0.06 a day!" so big time corporate lobbyists spend millions on state campaigns strengthening misdemeanor laws on the books to have some sort of mandatory sentence.

Funnily enough, no I can completely acknowledge that. Private prisons in particular are a joke. However it still comes down to a simple-to-understand easy fucking formula.

Don't break the law, you won't end up in jail. It doesn't matter whether or not you agree with the law or what the law means, breaking it means you're a criminal. Criminals deserve consequences.

People cannot just walk around breaking laws and then go "fuck it's not my fault, the system is broken". Shitheads need to accept responsibility.

Breaking the law is breaking the law.

[abacab-winner]

Funnily enough, no I can completely acknowledge that. Private prisons in particular are a joke. However it still comes down to a simple-to-understand easy fucking formula.

Don't break the law, you won't end up in jail. It doesn't matter whether or not you agree with the law or what the law means, breaking it means you're a criminal. Criminals deserve consequences.

People cannot just walk around breaking laws and then go "fuck it's not my fault, the system is broken". Shitheads need to accept responsibility.

Breaking the law is breaking the law.

I support breaking unjust laws and if jurors knew what nullification is and applied it in terms of unjust laws it'd be no problem.

[pharmakos]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience

[SNIPERS]

Funnily enough, no I can completely acknowledge that. Private prisons in particular are a joke. However it still comes down to a simple-to-understand easy fucking formula.

Don't break the law, you won't end up in jail. It doesn't matter whether or not you agree with the law or what the law means, breaking it means you're a criminal. Criminals deserve consequences.

People cannot just walk around breaking laws and then go "fuck it's not my fault, the system is broken". Shitheads need to accept responsibility.

Breaking the law is breaking the law.

I respect your opinion and each man is entitled to their own. Its easy to make a quick judgement about the majority of 'criminals' when you haven't walked a pair in their shoes. Maybe you are living a normal life, had money for an education, and have a normal job...that's how your story goes. I'm not making excuses for myself or anyone else. I am responsible for my actions and knew of the consequences, but not everyone was dealt the same hand and sometimes people have to make something out of a forced hand. Also maybe you never tasted easy money before and how easy it is to get caught up in it. Yes the majority of the 'criminals' are uneducated by society's standards, but that doesn't make them Shitheads. Half the criminals in prison are decent people who just made a mistake and have to pay...least thats what I think I am.

[SamwiseRed]

first, didnt know snipers was lion but it makes sense now

second, hope this is a troll, if not good luck bro. id flip the fuck out if i was locked up, the thought of not being able to do what i want, when i want makes my stomach turn.

edit: i was in the army and that was prison enough ( i know not even close but still) had anymore of my freedoms been taken away, i would have gone crazy.

[Era'viss]

Just to be safe, it's time to make a solid investment before you enter lock-up.
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120412051148/arresteddevelopment/images/e/e0/1x12_Marta_Complex_(18).png

[SNIPERS]

I've come to grips with the reality and I actually feel pretty lucky with my plea. 18 months is nothing compared to 5+ years.

My self-surrender is on 9/23 and my parole officer is being a real douche so all I can really do now is play some eq and read some books.

[Pringles]

I'll give you some rules:

#1 people in there are not your friend, if someone is overly friendly the moment you hit the block don't trust him, keep your distance and your guard up; he's trying to sucker you into following him somewhere (to play cards, his bunk to show you something etc.) he's trying to lure you away from CO's and security cameras so him and his pals can shake you down for commissary money.

Point blank, you don't want a couple dudes beating the shit out of you to get your book money.

#2 Force rules here, if someone's starts shit you best be the one that finishes it; it doesn't matter if knocking some dude out will get you sent to the hole or revokes your privileges, 90-days in solitary is much better than that one inmate telling a hundred others that you're a bitch/punk/pussy because if they sense any weakness from you then your next 18 months will be decided by whoever decides to fuck with you the most.

#3 When eating never eat in the center of the room, as you can be attacked from all sides, try to get a table near a wall.

#4 Don't talk any shit, don't brag about anything; keep your head down and only be cordial if you have to.

#5 Don't talk about any personal shit, like where you're from or who you're related to; lie if you have to because people on the inside have people on the outside and if they really want to extort you they can and will go after your friends and family.

#6 When buying commissary only buy what you think you need for the week, if you hard and buy a shit ton of soda, candy, ramen etc. then you're making yourself a target for robbery and extortion; remember you're sharing your cell with criminals so don't just leave property around or show these other criminals that you have money.

#7 Stick with your own race, prison is racist as shit and if you're a white dude and you're talking to some latino or some black rather frequently you make yourself out to be a target by racially-influenced gangs; in short stick with your own skin color to avoid an ass raping by the Aryans.

#8 Spend as much time in your cell working out and reading, less time out n the block = less chance of making enemies or getting caught up in shit.

#9 On the yard occupy yourself as much as possible, show that you're physically strong, if you sit around talking and looking like a stick you then become a target; people are less likely to jump you if you look "tough" as opposed to some lanky nerd.

#10 Don't tell on anybody period, even if it's the most minor of things like an inmate sneaking cigarettes; you tell anyone else or god forbid a C.O then you're in trouble pal.

Someones watched prison break / orange is the new black / shawshank redemption. Good job.

[timhutton]

I support breaking unjust laws and if jurors knew what nullification is and applied it in terms of unjust laws it'd be no problem.

You support breaking unjust laws? I have 0 sympathy for you and your kind. Breaking unjust laws is more "wrong" morally than the unjust law existing in the first place.

Repeal/change them peacefully, slowly, and legally (See the way Marijuana is headed) the way the system is intended to operate. If you don't like that route people can move to wear that law has no mandate.

Simply breaking them because you think they are "unjust" is wrong and people that do deserve punishment.

Jury nullifications haven't really been a thing in American since the 19th century, they are virtually obselete.

[timhutton]

I respect your opinion and each man is entitled to their own. Its easy to make a quick judgement about the majority of 'criminals' when you haven't walked a pair in their shoes. Maybe you are living a normal life, had money for an education, and have a normal job...that's how your story goes. I'm not making excuses for myself or anyone else. I am responsible for my actions and knew of the consequences, but not everyone was dealt the same hand and sometimes people have to make something out of a forced hand. Also maybe you never tasted easy money before and how easy it is to get caught up in it. Yes the majority of the 'criminals' are uneducated by society's standards, but that doesn't make them Shitheads. Half the criminals in prison are decent people who just made a mistake and have to pay...least thats what I think I am.

For clarifications sake; I was saying that people that break the law and then blame the system rather than owning up to it are the shitheads, in reference to Gaffin's "Real society" bullshit.

As far as my personal background is concerned, I despise criminals for the very fact I came up from being very poor and saw many around me turn to a life of crime while I stayed on the straight and narrow and did things the right way.

Those "forced hand"s your describing is usually just people being lazy, or as you said going after the "easy money" instead of putting real work in.

Given my own background I will never have any respect for the individuals that take the easy/quick way out.

Nobodies perfect, but when people decide to take "the easy money" when they know its wrong and it's breaking laws and then they try to justify it via having a "forced hand" or not being born rich, those are exactly the type of people I'm calling shitheads.

EDIT: For even more clarification, you don't sound like a shithead. Gaffin/jonny lawbreaker abacab are the ones that sound like shit heads, but everyone already knows they are. Kinda sad when you can tell someones character simply by the way they act on a video game.. eh Bouncer?

[Raavak]

Kick someone's ass the first day, or become someone's bitch.

[FoxxHound]

Kill someone's ass the first day, or become someone's bitch.

[pharmakos]

You support breaking unjust laws? I have 0 sympathy for you and your kind. Breaking unjust laws is more "wrong" morally than the unjust law existing in the first place.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Portrait_Gandhi.jpg/399px-Portrait_Gandhi.jpg

Mahatma Gandhi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohandas_Karamchand_Gandhi) would disagree with you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience

hell, so would America's forefathers.

Boston Tea Party, anyone?

[pharmakos]

The Role of Civil Disobedience in Democracy (http://www.civilliberties.org/sum98role.html)

Civil Disobedience is the act of disobeying a law on grounds of moral or political principle. It is an attempt to influence society to accept a dissenting point of view. Although it usually uses tactics of nonviolence, it is more than mere passive resistance since it often takes active forms such as illegal street demonstrations or peaceful occupations of premises. The classic treatise on this topic is Henry David Thoreau's "On the Duty of Civil Disobedience," which states that when a person's conscience and the laws clash, that person must follow his or her conscience. The stress on personal conscience and on the need to act now rather than to wait for legal change are recurring elements in civil disobedience movements. The U.S. Bill of Rights asserts that the authority of a government is derived from the consent of the governed, and whenever any form of government becomes destructive, it is the right and duty of the people to alter or abolish it.

[Silent]

All depends where you are headed really, I got lucky and was basically alone in a cell and never had to come in contact with any other inmates but I was in a locked down wing even though I was a month into my 18th birthday the other people around were all big ass tuff mexicans like 6'5 270 was funny since I was like 5'10 130 at the time. But I didn't have to do anywhere near 18 months let alone 5+ years. My buddy wasn't a minor at the time and got 7 years in federal, Got beatup/stabbed and was then transferred from federal near LA to allentown PA prison for the rest of his 5 years which he said was pretty comfy since its like a lesser security/hospital type place he was housed in.

[mtb tripper]

thats a trip

[Swish]

For clarifications sake; I was saying that people that break the law and then blame the system rather than owning up to it are the shitheads, in reference to Gaffin's "Real society" bullshit.

As far as my personal background is concerned, I despise criminals for the very fact I came up from being very poor and saw many around me turn to a life of crime while I stayed on the straight and narrow and did things the right way.

Those "forced hand"s your describing is usually just people being lazy, or as you said going after the "easy money" instead of putting real work in.

Given my own background I will never have any respect for the individuals that take the easy/quick way out.

Nobodies perfect, but when people decide to take "the easy money" when they know its wrong and it's breaking laws and then they try to justify it via having a "forced hand" or not being born rich, those are exactly the type of people I'm calling shitheads.

EDIT: For even more clarification, you don't sound like a shithead. Gaffin/jonny lawbreaker abacab are the ones that sound like shit heads, but everyone already knows they are. Kinda sad when you can tell someones character simply by the way they act on a video game.. eh Bouncer?

Exactly, I watch Dog the Bounty Hunter... I know where Tim is coming from.

[Gaffin Deeppockets]

lol wut? someone always got my name in their mouth

[MaksimMazor]

Sucks for you. Probably should stay away from drugs and guns idiot

[Estolcles]

Sucks for you. Probably should stay away from drugs and guns idiot

OP later said it involved a shopping cart as well.

So stay away from drugs, guns, and shopping carts.