View Full Version : Best starting stats for dark elf wizard?
paladin1118
08-29-2013, 11:18 AM
The wiki says... "For Dark Elves add 25 Intelligence and 5 Strength." Is that good?
I've never really played wizard that much so I'm not sure. Do they need stamina at all? I guess, ideally, they shouldn't be taking damage in the first place though.
Wizards have pretty low starting strength, only 65 after adding 5 points. Would it be a terrible idea to put 10 points into STR instead of only 5? To help with weight limit. Being a dark elf, the nearest vendor/banker I'm able to use probably won't be too close most of the time. So a little extra weight limit might help.
Samoht
08-29-2013, 11:24 AM
wizards have a terrible stam to HP conversion, so putting 5 points onto stam is only worth about 4 hp at level 60. don't do it.
you also don't actually need the STR. wiz gear is inherently light (cloth). it's still the only place that you might actually benefit besides INT, tho. the best approach is max INT.
Only reason for death in Norrath is 0 hp.
Alarti0001
08-29-2013, 11:32 AM
Don't put points into stam. Its much smarter to cap your int so you can sacrifice int gear for +HP/Mana/Resist gear. You will get infinitely superior net benefit to your survivability and total damage output.
Str doesn't really matter much you can get weight reducing bags after all.
But there is nothing wrong with +5 str. You will lose out on a whopping 10hp though.
iRFNA
08-29-2013, 11:42 AM
it's best to distribute stats to either fix your weaknesses or emphasize your strengths... so i'd say dump points in cha (so you won't be ugly anymore) or agi (with high DE agi you'll be very dodgy which will help with your low health)
Swish
08-29-2013, 11:51 AM
+25 INT
+5 STR
...sorted.
Alarti's got it right. Plus, you're a wizard: you can teleport to a vendor when you need to sell stuff.
Thulack
08-29-2013, 12:07 PM
+25 INT
+5 STR
...sorted.
fastboy21
08-29-2013, 04:54 PM
Other than int, you won't notice any real difference no matter what you put your stats in. At least str will give you a few extra pp you can carry when porting.
webrunner5
08-29-2013, 05:18 PM
20, 10 if it was me.
gotrocks
08-30-2013, 01:06 AM
Take it from some of the actual wizzies in this thread. going 25int 5stam is the way to go.
To be totally honest putting those 5 points into str instead wont exactly kill you. Just make sure you have the 25 into int and you'll be fine. Could put them into CHA and you wont be breaking your character.
Your biggest problem is not choosing a gnome. For shame.
Snackies
08-30-2013, 01:16 AM
Backin up Int primary / Str secondary as the way to go
Splorf22
08-30-2013, 02:10 AM
Your biggest problem is not choosing a gnome. For shame.
Clark
08-30-2013, 04:37 AM
Your biggest problem is not choosing a gnome. For shame.
Yinikren
08-30-2013, 05:32 AM
My enc is perpetually encumbered at 65 str, wearing nothing but cloth, carrying nothing of weight value (tiny daggers, gems for rune, my OT hammer being the one exception) with eight bags. Definately sink those extra points into str, the stamina just isn't worth it.
Ravager
08-30-2013, 11:28 AM
My enc is perpetually encumbered at 65 str, wearing nothing but cloth, carrying nothing of weight value (tiny daggers, gems for rune, my OT hammer being the one exception) with eight bags. Definately sink those extra points into str, the stamina just isn't worth it.
After you get 8 tink bags, the sta will serve you better.
formallydickman
08-30-2013, 11:36 AM
After you get 8 tink bags, the sta will serve you better.
from lvl 1 to 8 tink bags can be a very, very long time for some people. 25int/5str all the way.
Atmas
08-30-2013, 11:52 AM
25 int 5 str
The number of times that having like 20 hpts more would have saved you as a wizard is far fewer than the number of times you will be within 5 weight of being encumbered.
Raavak
08-30-2013, 12:06 PM
+dex for the f'ing port hammer
Ravager
08-30-2013, 12:20 PM
from lvl 1 to 8 tink bags can be a very, very long time for some people. 25int/5str all the way.
Faster than you'd think. Wizards aren't as gear dependant as other classes and there will be a day when 42k for 8 tink bags isn't unfathomable. With the soft cap of 200 on int, there's plenty of room to substitute in a piece of gear for a little extra str if you really wanted it and there's pieces with str and int combined, like the sapphire platinum necklace and golden bracer. That's +14 str right there without adding a ton of weight or losing an int slot.
5 sta doesn't sound like a lot, but there have been many occasions in this game where life and death and a lengthy corpse run came down to the last few HP.
Lojik
08-30-2013, 12:37 PM
Backin up Int primary / Str secondary as the way to go
You WOULD pick str. Can you please stop looting and rez already my timer is almost up.
Samoht
08-30-2013, 02:47 PM
With the soft cap of 200 on int, there's plenty of room to substitute in a piece of gear for a little extra str if you really wanted it and there's pieces with str and int combined, like the sapphire platinum necklace and golden bracer. That's +14 str right there without adding a ton of weight or losing an int slot.
5 sta doesn't sound like a lot, but there have been many occasions in this game where life and death and a lengthy corpse run came down to the last few HP.
except if he went 5 str and focused gear on hp/mana after soft cap instead of STR then the reward would be much more health than 5 stam will give for a wizard.
Thulack
08-30-2013, 03:05 PM
Faster than you'd think. Wizards aren't as gear dependant as other classes and there will be a day when 42k for 8 tink bags isn't unfathomable. With the soft cap of 200 on int, there's plenty of room to substitute in a piece of gear for a little extra str if you really wanted it and there's pieces with str and int combined, like the sapphire platinum necklace and golden bracer. That's +14 str right there without adding a ton of weight or losing an int slot.
5 sta doesn't sound like a lot, but there have been many occasions in this game where life and death and a lengthy corpse run came down to the last few HP.
if the wizard is relying on the 20-30hp which is what the 5sta would give he is gonna be dead anyway at higher levels.
Ravager
08-30-2013, 03:47 PM
What's a wizard carrying around all the time that the extra 5 str will keep him from being encumbered? If you're walking around with 8 regular backpacks, those backpacks alone are 24 stones. If you're filling them with fine steel weapons, crushbone belts or whatever else that doesn't stack, you could put all of your starting points into str and you're still going to be encumbered. Sta is still the way to go.
Splorf22
08-30-2013, 03:51 PM
5 STA is 12 hp at L60, and less before. 5 STR lets you loot one additional FS weapon in 50-100 groups, for a total of maybe +500PP from 1-50. Or you could just get mage bags.
Conclusion: stats other than INT don't matter; the only issue is were you smart enough to roll gnome
Ravager
08-30-2013, 03:55 PM
5 STA is 12 hp at L60, and less before. 5 STR lets you loot one additional FS weapon in 50-100 groups, for a total of maybe +500PP from 1-50. Or you could just get mage bags.
Conclusion: stats other than INT don't matter; the only issue is were you smart enough to roll gnome
I'd still rather have the extra HP than not have it. You can't tell me there was never a time in your EQ career where 12hp was the difference between surviving a dot.
Frieza_Prexus
08-30-2013, 04:00 PM
My preference is for the STA, and to put everything into STA. But that's generally only a good idea if you are strictly concerned with being an end game wizard with BIS gear. With that stuff + a chanter buff you'll be capped with a few extra HP's to boot.
The HP gains are admittedly marginal, but every little bit helps.
vBulletin® v3.8.11, Copyright ©2000-2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.