Epic Quests

[fuji]

My question is, when Kunark goes live and epic quests are made available, will the harder epic quests be updated to the newer easier ones or will they be hard for awhile and then go easy? Kind of curious.

[frefaln]

Go hard or go home!

... sorry, I just wanted to say that.

[Qian]

I have not been on live for years so this is news to me. Which quests did they decide were too hard?

[Toony]

My question is, when Kunark goes live and epic quests are made available, will the harder epic quests be updated to the newer easier ones or will they be hard for awhile and then go easy? Kind of curious.

If I had to guess.. I'd say they'll follow the original time line/difficulty as closely as the devs can make happen.

[Tronjer]

Some melee epics were not worth it anyway, as they already got replaced with Velious.

[fuji]

I have not been on live for years so this is news to me. Which quests did they decide were too hard?

Personally I remember wizzy epic going from 2nd hardest to 2nd easiest. I think there were others as well, but not completely positive.

[guineapig]

By the time the epic quests are in the game many current level 50's will be level 60 since the epics are released months after Kunark.

I don't think they got easier for another couple expansions... possibly no ttill the level cap was 65 or at the very least people have Velious and Luclin raid gear.

That being said, it all depends on how much help you have. If you have a a raid of 30+ people taking out your targets it will be easy no matter what.
It's more of a time sink than difficult.

[guineapig]

I think back in the day the difficulty was in figuring out the damn quests to start with.
Now you can find a million different write ups on how to do them.

[mmiles8]

If I recall correctly, which I may not, they weren't replaced, but a second, stand-in item to progress to epic 2.0 was added for those who had not completed epic 1.0, as many classes had not, and this was mainly to prevent a huge clusterfuck of classic competition simply to reach 2.0.

And I believe that many of those involved items from beyond the first two and three expansions.

[Ellia]

Personally I agree with Frefain...but wont complain, give the rules and I'll follow them.

[Jugthug42]

What about stuff like Ragefire spawning in Naggy's lair and what not, before he became spawnable.

Also wasnt Faydedar for the druid epic not triggerable at first, and you had to run into him as a world spawn?

[Aeolwind]

Yes, Cazic will be KOS to Irak.

How's that for an indication of difficulty?

[Tronjer]

If I recall correctly, which I may not, they weren't replaced, but a second, stand-in item to progress to epic 2.0 was added for those who had not completed epic 1.0, as many classes had not, and this was mainly to prevent a huge clusterfuck of classic competition simply to reach 2.0.

Was a side quest as prerequisite for epic 1.5 and could be easily accomplished within a few days.

Between Kunark and Velious release were merely 8 months and given the fact, that it took quite some time to finish some of the harder epics, at least for my class it wasn't worth the effort. Even in the early state of Vellious one could easily kill Vaniki for Willsapper with 3 groups, whereas farming Kunark dragons and doing Queen in Chardok was a pita in comparison.

[fuji]

Was a side quest as prerequisite for epic 1.5 and could be easily accomplished within a few days.

Between Kunark and Velious release were merely 8 months and given the fact, that it took quite some time to finish some of the harder epics, at least for my class it wasn't worth the effort. Even in the early state of Vellious one could easily kill Vaniki for Willsapper with 3 groups, whereas farming Kunark dragons and doing Queen in Chardok was a pita in comparison.

Willsapper was the shit and made you look like a monk, but you still needed a good offhand and I think epic was the next best thing.

[mimixownzall]

Big problem for mages was the staff off Inno. It had a less than 1% drop rate off of a mob that spawned once a week. So, that means, statistically, that there would be one drop every 2 years.

Yeah, there was a reason there were some changes to epics.

[RKromwell]

That reminds me, I never did finish mine...

[Taluvill]

Big problem for mages was the staff off Inno. It had a less than 1% drop rate off of a mob that spawned once a week. So, that means, statistically, that there would be one drop every 2 years.

Yeah, there was a reason there were some changes to epics.

Wizards(i think, never played one) needed a staff to drop from VS that was a PITA to get, and the flayed skin of cazic thule was just like the mage epic staff.

[MorganTPSO]

Bards are very tied to their epics, doesn't get replaced til instrument mods on armor, which weren't til like PoP I think? And even then, it was tough to get all the mods on individual pieces as opposed to the all-in-one epic.

-Morgn

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Personally I agree with Frefain...but wont complain, give the rules and I'll follow them.

rules were made to be shaken not stirred!

[fuji]

Wizards(i think, never played one) needed a staff to drop from VS that was a PITA to get, and the flayed skin of cazic thule was just like the mage epic staff.

Yep, you are right. It was 3 staffs, VS dropped staff almost everytime. Phinny dropped his staff like 1 in 10 and the flayed skin from CT was like 1 in 20 or 30 I think, plus CT got upgraded to 2.0, so very few people had epic. During velious they later added the CT part of the quest with a golem in fear that dropped the part you needed for epic.

But anyways, I think the hardest epics were mag or sk.

[Frankee]

I'd love the chance to get mine although I didn't play warrior on live. I was mid epic with my enchanter but lost everything due to a rotting corpse and never went back to redo it all.

[lechrac1]

Bards epic was a super pain in the ass. Not only did you need to kill trak once, you had to do it again the next day once the UDB was up. This all sucked cause, like someone posted earlier, bards are very tied to their epics. I didnt replace mine till well into GOD.

[Aarone]

Ragefire. With all the love and rainbows that float around SolB as it is these days, I can't wait to see how the Cleric Epic unfolds on the P99 server...

[lechrac1]

Probably just another perma camped mob like most of the crap these days.

[Reiker]

Epics will be somewhat easier here due to wrong drop rates on Earth Staff, Soul Leech, Pegasus Cloak, etc.

[Barthorn]

^^^^

[rioisk]

I am going to enjoy the rants and flame section when epics go live. Imagine, a sever full of people who already know what the quest will be before it happens. Add that to the current state of raiding and you have one hell of a fun time.

Personally can't wait to hear the bitching.

[Qaedain]

I can't wait to see the banning.

[fuji]

I cant wait to see the suicides.


Wait...too far?