I belong in AA - Need your Advice

[Zyn]

Let's face it, there are plenty of us that belong in Altaholics Anonymous. We play a character for a while and think "OMG I really feel like playing _____" and before you know it, you've dropped your extra plat to gear out another character.

Then it happens again, and again and again.

I'm Blake and I have an Altaholic addicition.

I beg of you, forum friends, to help me settle this problem.

I want so badly to get into the later levels, do some raids, gear up and actually make money. However, my ADD kicks in and its GG.

As you'll see in my signature, I have a lot of alts. My current favorite is a level 9 enchanter which I was planning to make my main.

So I ask of you two questions:
1) how do you deal with AA?
2) which toon should I pick?

I can't be the only one with this problem, and other people seem to overcome it. I overcame it on live somehow... can't seem to do it here yet.

Any advice is greatly appreciated ^_^

P.S. - The root cause of the problem is that I like the different classes for different reasons. I see myself enjoying almost any of these at end game, but my feelings change depending on the day. I haven't really played EQ for the last few days since I was at PAX in Seattle... I figured that would be a good time to think about it freely and I haven't come any closer to making a decision.

[Swish]

Pick a pure caster, a healer, a tank and a melee dps.

1 of each... no more! Stick to those 4 until they're all at least into their 40s/50s.

That way you've got all bases covered... you don't need a wizard/necro/mage/enchanter. They all cross over anyway in their own ways, as do healers, tanks and melee dps :p

[Tecmos Deception]

If you want to get into the high levels quickly, then you need to learn how to AE level with your bard. You could be 46 in like 10 hours, and the tears that would flow in OT /ooc for those 10 hours would be icing on the cake.

[Zyn]

Pick a pure caster, a healer, a tank and a melee dps.

1 of each... no more! Stick to those 4 until they're all at least into their 40s/50s.

That would mean I would have to roll a new alt for a tank ahaha, this is only hurting me, not helping me.

Tank would definitely be a SK or Pally, have ZERO desire in a warrior.

Melee DPS I have my bard

Healer would be my shaman

Pure caster is the tricky one, I really enjoy pure casters and have enchanter and necro (and hell I could even see myself playing a Wizzy)

[Zyn]

If you want to get into the high levels quickly, then you need to learn how to AE level with your bard. You could be 46 in like 10 hours, and the tears that would flow in OT /ooc for those 10 hours would be icing on the cake.

I've tried this, a lot. I find myself only getting frustrated, dying and not having fun. I'm sure at some point it probably pays off, but coming back to this game was supposed to be a fun, nostalgic experience (although its EQ and things can get frustrating from time to time) but I don't want to have to suffer for 25-30 hours, lose 3 levels, before I finally figure out how to swarm kite.

Not only that, swarm kiting has become relatively common on P99 and it's hard to get into a good zone for it where there aren't already tons of bards doing it too.

Also, Tecmos, I don't want to let you down... I'm really enjoying enchanter, but I also enjoy a lot of other characters. Maybe I need to play my chanter up to 16-20 ish and see if I fall in love, then that'll fix the problem.

[Legasi]

I'm guilty as well. My friend always gives me grief for it. I never was able to get past mid 50's on live because I would constantly make a new alt. I've done pretty good to stick with my necro on p99 for this past month without much time spent on alts. In short, I don't have a solution, except for maybe give all your plat to me so you won't be tempted/able to twink anymore = P

[Tecmos Deception]

AE kiting is using AEs. Swarm kiting is using charm.

It's hard to get over the "FUUUCCCK!!!! I DIED GOD DAMN IT!!!!" feeling... but if you can get yourself to remember that you earn 20x as much xp from one successful, one-hour-long kite as you lose from 1 death, you're golden.

That's definitely the fastest way to get into the 50+ game, but no point doing that if you're just going to give up on your bard cause it isn't your cup of tea. Enchanters definitely are a late blooming class, unfortunately, so you don't get the full feel for how they work at 50+ until you're 50+ :(

[Swish]

Another approach...which epic is the most alluring to you of the classes you play? Pick one and don't stop til you've got it ;)

[Hamahakki]

IMO stick with the shaman. There are a number of big milestones on the way to 60 to keep you motivated:

- Pet at 34
- JBB at 45 + when you can afford it
- Epic when you can obtain it, probably early 50s
- Torpor at 60

He can solo but is still loved in groups, and he is your second-highest level character. Shamans are late bloomers and you have already cleared most of the crappy levels!

Edit: Typo

[Swish]

IMO stick with the shaman. There are a number of big milestones on the way to 60 to keep you motivated:

- Pet at 34
- JBB at 46 + when you can afford it
- Epic when you can obtain it, probably early 50s
- Torpor at 60

He can solo but is still loved in groups, and he is your second-highest level character. Shamans are late bloomers and you have already cleared most of the crappy levels!

Not to mention tanking Lodi in Velious... take a ticket, there's a lot of shammies queueing for that :)

[Acrux Bcrux]

Level a ranger to 60 while we still have exp pen and youll never want to level another character again. I went with a bard as an alt and even he is sitting at 16% to 60 and i just cant do it anymore. I always have the thoughts of making another character and then i really think about it and just... no

[Weekapaug]

I feel ya, OP. I'm worse than you, even. My toons are higher level and I keep them all geared.

OCD is a bish, I tell ya.

[senna]

I had the same problem. What happens is I grind hard for a week or two and get bored, then I think if I roll an alt it will keep me interested.

Now I just start playing a different game for a bit, then when my EQ urge is recharged I go back to my main.

[Weekapaug]

I had the same problem. What happens is I grind hard for a week or two and get bored, then I think if I roll an alt it will keep me interested.

Now I just start playing a different game for a bit, then when my EQ urge is recharged I go back to my main.

That's the thing....A good hard grind on one toon really brings out the Altaholicism.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Melee DPS I have my bard


does not compute

:)

[Zyn]

AE kiting is using AEs. Swarm kiting is using charm.

It's hard to get over the "FUUUCCCK!!!! I DIED GOD DAMN IT!!!!" feeling... but if you can get yourself to remember that you earn 20x as much xp from one successful, one-hour-long kite as you lose from 1 death, you're golden.

That's definitely the fastest way to get into the 50+ game, but no point doing that if you're just going to give up on your bard cause it isn't your cup of tea. Enchanters definitely are a late blooming class, unfortunately, so you don't get the full feel for how they work at 50+ until you're 50+ :(

Ah sorry, AE kiting. Yea and I still have yet to run a large-scale complete kite, so that's pretty scary. It makes me worried to try it again, because it takes one small cut corner to eat it.

I'm sorta interested in low-HP duo kiting with a shaman. That could be extremely good and cuts the risks by a tremendous amount.

Enchanters are indeed late bloomers, but even without charm, I'm enjoying my enchanter just for the sheer number of tools already at my disposal.

Decisions, decisions.

I think the overall win would probably be a shaman, but I will probably change my mind in 15 minutes.

[Zyn]

does not compute

:)

'tis true, it's hard to imagine that bards are considered melee DPS. Our melee DPS is akin to a baby kitten scratching a dragon.

They should have their own category, "Rock Star"

[Zyn]

Level a ranger to 60 while we still have exp pen and youll never want to level another character again. I went with a bard as an alt and even he is sitting at 16% to 60 and i just cant do it anymore. I always have the thoughts of making another character and then i really think about it and just... no

Haha you're incredible for leveling a ranger to 60. Also, I saw you in EC and you look sexy as FK, so it was probably worth it.

If you made another character, what would it be?

[Zyn]

I feel ya, OP. I'm worse than you, even. My toons are higher level and I keep them all geared.

OCD is a bish, I tell ya.

Well at least they are higher level...

My AA prevents me from getting any one toon high enough to actually do anything useful.

[Weekapaug]

Well at least they are higher level...

My AA prevents me from getting any one toon high enough to actually do anything useful.

Mine are 52, 45, 35, 25, 22, 17....and a bunch are like 12 and below...And I've been here off and on for over 3 years. It's the getting to do different stuff that draws me off of a toon for another....Doing the same levels over and over in short order would drive me nuts.

What's that thing about creating our own hells?

[Tecmos Deception]

Thread got moved to OT because a mod didn't read more than the title, I'm guessing? Lol :)

[Ephirith]

So I ask of you two questions:
1) how do you deal with AA?
2) which toon should I pick?

1. Poorly

2. Whichever of the "desirable" classes you enjoy most will give you the best shot at making it to high end.

Find a good group of friends. Don't stay in the same place too long, visit out of the way dungeons like Droga while it still gives experience, Splitpaw, Kaesora. Build your own groups. A lot of times stuff like that was more important to me than the class I was playing, and even when I was enjoying myself I always ended up jumping ship to something else.

<-- 56 shaman, 55 shaman, 54 shadow knight, 55 ranger, 50 ranger, 45 enchanter, 21 shaman, 17 shadow knight, 16 ranger, 14 wizard, 11 druid

I've given away everything I own and started over fresh three times, usually the same class as before, and sometimes selling my old character to twink my new one

[Flamewraith]

I had a friend who when we would play oblivion, he would constantly reroll another class within 2 hours of getting out of the tutorial dungeon. I always got on his case asking him how he could possibly stand to play the same shit over and over again without experiencing any of the fun that was high end, or even mid game. He eventually burnt himself out on it without experiencing a single mid or high end quality of the game. In my two years on this server I JUST now began creation and gearing of my very first alt now that I have experienced everything (barring VP) that the server has to offer. I would have it no other way.

[Zyn]

Thread got moved to OT because a mod didn't read more than the title, I'm guessing? Lol :)

Ya I wanted it in server chat, gets more visibility and then I would get more advice :(

[Zyn]

I think I've come to an interesting conclusion....

I'll play whatever I feel like playing at the time. If today I feel like playing Shaman, I will. If tomorrow I feel like playing Bard, I will.

Over time, I'll gain levels across different characters... probably slowly, but I'll be playing what I feel like playing and therefore enjoying my experience.

Ultimately, I'll reach a point where I'm REALLY enjoying one character out of the pack and focus on it.

What y'all think of that idea?

[formallydickman]

I find that picking a specific (and relatively short-term) goal for the character I currently want to play helps me play them longer before switching to another character, whether its attaining the next level or spell tier, getting enough plat to buy a specific item, or camping/questing an item. I also find that I have less of a desire to switch characters when I am switching up other things in game (camps, strat, grouping/soloing).

[Raavak]

I have one of every class, though only a few are over 20th level. If I get the itch I play one for a while until I get sick of it. I don't really consider it a problem. Maybe I'm not ready for reform, lol.

[Greegon]

at least imo, you don't want to have an enchanter AND a bard. Drop one of them.

[Zyn]

at least imo, you don't want to have an enchanter AND a bard. Drop one of them.

I get that they're pretty similar, but I enjoy 'em both.

:P

Oh the decisions