View Full Version : If you no longer allow account trades, why do you allow server plat trades?
Legend
10-13-2013, 09:44 PM
in the same regards, make it one or none, since the account traded was banished due to possible scams how is red plat to blue or blue to red any different...
citizen1080
10-13-2013, 09:46 PM
Lets just ban trading in general. That way we can cut down on all those filthy twinks. If you don't loot it you don't get to use it!
gotrocks
10-13-2013, 09:49 PM
Lets just ban trading in general. That way we can cut down on all those filthy twinks. If you don't loot it you don't get to use it!
+1
trading clearly detrimental to the server. ban all ec tunnel alts imo.
Tecmos Deception
10-13-2013, 09:53 PM
Trivial loot code AND everything is no drop imo.
is trading even classic? i could sure live without it
in the same regards, make it one or none, since the account traded was banished due to possible scams how is red plat to blue or blue to red any different...
Very very good point this should be a bannable offense added to the illegal activity of account trading(which was banned in a very timely and sensible manner), there needs to be more control over what is really classic here on p99.
mtb tripper
10-13-2013, 10:11 PM
lets go no trade, that'd be awesome
citizen1080
10-13-2013, 10:34 PM
Very very good point this should be a bannable offense added to the illegal activity of account trading(which was banned in a very timely and sensible manner), there needs to be more control over what is really classic here on p99.
For the window lickers, this is called sarcasm
mtb tripper
10-13-2013, 10:35 PM
house rules dawg
Stinkum
10-13-2013, 11:24 PM
On live, the Firionia Vie server had a very unique ruleset as far as items. There were basically no such thing as no-drop items except for epics and the newbie guild note. Planar gear was completely tradeable and sold commonly in the Bazaar. It was a huge appeal for some, and a huge turn-off for others. The server also briefly had a Trivial Loot Code rule at one point, where a mob wouldn't drop any items unless were the level where you could get XP off of that mob.
* Trivial Loot Code *
If a character kills an NPC and that NPC does not give them experience, then the Trivial Loot Code takes effect. This can happen when either a member of your group is too high in level to receive experience from killing the monster, or when a member of your group is outside of the level range of the group for receiving experience from the kill. If any member of a group does not get experience for a kill, the Trivial Loot Code will take effect. The Trivial Loot Code prevents magical, lore and no-drop items from appearing on the corpse. Normal items and coins will appear on the corpse in all cases as usual.
mtb tripper
10-13-2013, 11:27 PM
On live, the Firionia Vie server had a very unique ruleset as far as items. There were basically no such thing as no-drop items except for epics and the newbie guild note. Planar gear was completely tradeable and sold commonly in the Bazaar. Since there was only 1 character per account allowed on FV, people would often get bored of their character, bank all their armor and then re-roll a level 1 in full planar, which allowed for some crazy twinkage. It was a huge appeal for some, and a huge turn-off for others.
The server also briefly had a Trivial Loot Code ruleset, where a mob wouldn't drop any items unless you could get XP off it.
I could see some fun in that
citizen1080
10-13-2013, 11:43 PM
Most of my EQ career was on FV...loved the loot ruleset. Only downside was 1 character per account. And the Roleplayers...
Lvl 1 twinks in AoW gear was a beautiful thing
heazels
10-14-2013, 02:40 AM
But if there is no boxing or ebaying, is it really classic?
heazels
10-14-2013, 02:46 AM
Plus there is no Taiwanese on this server cause there is no money in this game anymore
Laugher
10-14-2013, 03:04 AM
Ban all gear, all it does it cause trading, and all plat/gold/silver, copper only for merchant transactions
food/drink must be summoned
ncapatina
10-14-2013, 11:20 AM
Should just allow people to transfer blue characters to red (not the other way around though).
Legend
10-14-2013, 06:11 PM
This needs a GM response... thinking about trading plat from server a to b if I get scammed will GM's restore lost plat items? Or bring back account trading selling please. Can I sell an account for plat? What is the difference liquidating droppables and moving to another server where you did not kill a single rat? Fair to new players? Either server should be scratch non of this moving your assets from blue to red or red to blue.
wrxBRAH
10-14-2013, 07:42 PM
in the same regards, make it one or none, since the account traded was banished due to possible scams how is red plat to blue or blue to red any different...
+1 valid point
But if there is no boxing or ebaying, is it really classic?
closest to classic
Laugher
10-14-2013, 07:51 PM
I do like the idea of server transfers for chars though, that seems pretty classic after reading the patch notes whenever a new server came out. Although putting a Phara`Dar geared toon over on red seems a little unfair considering that it doesn't seem as though they see a whole lot of high end vp :p red could use it.. as for MQs it seems a little ridiculous that several lowbie rogues run around with epics, but then again someone gambled a lot of plat in a potentially shady trade to get it, the exchange seems somewhat fair considering the potential for great loss as this type of exchange can't occur fully in a single transaction through a the trade window(rogue epic costs like 1/2 a fungi lol)
as for trivial loot I'd be interested to see that (not here but ykno, just seeing it in general)
*edit* after thinking about this a minute longer char transfers would need a few stipulations, ex. a level minimum or something to prevent a lvl 1 taking their char move over to the other server with a bunch of gear or plat.. a char worth moving, 40+ maybe, idk... thinking again and this sounds like a bit much. If you had the wealth to move and with the way that rmt is kept in check here mayhaps it would work, but would need some kind of limitation, like 1 char per account or something.
citizen1080
10-14-2013, 10:31 PM
I offer red = blue escrow on Bob.
Splorf22
10-14-2013, 10:45 PM
I would totally be down for Firiona Vie loot rules and people getting only one toon.
I would totally be down for Firiona Vie loot rules and people getting only one toon.
Unfortunately, there's nothing stopping people from multiple toons in the emu setup. Things you might try (IP logging and such) simply raise the bar a bit and (mostly) affect only the stupid and the unmotivated. Of course, multi-accounting would be 100% classic Firiona Vie...
BillyCranston
10-14-2013, 11:13 PM
Unfortunately, there's nothing stopping people from multiple toons in the emu setup. Things you might try (IP logging and such) simply raise the bar a bit and (mostly) affect only the stupid and the unmotivated. Of course, multi-accounting would be 100% classic Firiona Vie...
Having multiple accounts wouldn't make any difference here. You're not allowed to two box, having multiple accounts wouldn't do anyone any good unless they were going to break the rules. Personally I think that would be a great way to run a P99 server, FV rules.
citizen1080
10-15-2013, 12:41 AM
Having multiple accounts wouldn't make any difference here. You're not allowed to two box, having multiple accounts wouldn't do anyone any good unless they were going to break the rules. Personally I think that would be a great way to run a P99 server, FV rules.
It wouldn't circumvent the p99 rules, but it would circumvent the FV ruleset. Idea behind it was that you were stuck with one toon, so your rep mattered etc.
I never liked the 1 toon limit...I had a 2nd account that I deleted ~ 25 lvl 20 twinks off of cause I couldn't make another toon on the account lol.
It wouldn't circumvent the p99 rules, but it would circumvent the FV ruleset. Idea behind it was that you were stuck with one toon, so your rep mattered etc.
I never liked the 1 toon limit...I had a 2nd account that I deleted ~ 25 lvl 20 twinks off of cause I couldn't make another toon on the account lol.
Exactly. The FV ruleset was supposedly intended to prevent alts, thereby making character reputation matter and also preventing twinking which is anathema to many online RPers. Cynics will say (I am a cynic on this topic) that the ruleset was really intended to generate additional subscription revenue as players who wanted to use the near absence of the NODROP tag to twink in ways they could not on regular servers would have to pay for multiple accounts.
Also, I heard more accusations of RMT regarding Firiona Vie server than all other EQLive servers combined. Just my perception of things back in the day, of course.
ncapatina
10-15-2013, 11:06 AM
why not the other way around bias? make it fair on both ends
1. Population, enough people would jump ship that I imagine it would REALLY be a Nihilum only server at that point.
2. Faster leveling speeds on Red would make it a plvl paradise even with the pvp, then people would transfer off.
SOE did one way transfers all the time, it's classic.
Champion_Standing
10-15-2013, 11:23 AM
Trading blue for red items should be considered the same thing as trading for items from other games.
big mouth chew
10-15-2013, 11:25 AM
what the fuck would i do with blue plat???
Swish
10-15-2013, 02:02 PM
what the fuck would i do with blue plat???
Blue plat not worth a damn anyway, inflation at the point where its better to trade items.
Swish
10-15-2013, 02:33 PM
Unless Dev's can create a safe avenue to fix this current "bug" then bring back account trading.
Can I spend red plat for stuff in other games? What about other emulators.
I have over 1 million plat on EZ server, can I trade it for blue or red plat, what about accounts. Its the same emulator just a different server, same goes for blue, its the same mechanics dev owners but another server.
Make it bannable or fix the current state and allow account trading like you did for many years. There is not much of a difference here, pixels are pixels, the risk and the reward and the scams are still plausible. What is the staff take on this?
WTT plat on red for stuff on ez server or trade stuff on ez server for stuff on blue. Also have some pvp tokens on CB box will trade for pixels anywhere.
Its not allowed, but if you found an interested friend I'm sure it would be doable... you just can't advertise it.
Retti_
10-15-2013, 03:34 PM
Trading 30k blue for 15k red
runlvlzero
10-19-2013, 05:24 PM
Legend is platlord I'm pretty sure. I get that feel from reading his post history. He's trying to manipulate the server for his own ends.
Swish
10-20-2013, 02:21 AM
reported for slander hope they shut down your forum account brew
Sounds more like that Nocturne guy...
Vidar
10-20-2013, 02:43 AM
Unless Dev's can create a safe avenue to fix this current "bug" then bring back account trading.
Can I spend red plat for stuff in other games? What about other emulators.
I have over 1 million plat on EZ server, can I trade it for blue or red plat, what about accounts. Its the same emulator just a different server, same goes for blue, its the same mechanics dev owners but another server.
Make it bannable or fix the current state and allow account trading like you did for many years. There is not much of a difference here, pixels are pixels, the risk and the reward and the scams are still plausible. What is the staff take on this?
WTT plat on red for stuff on ez server or trade stuff on ez server for stuff on blue. Also have some pvp tokens on CB box will trade for pixels anywhere.
How are you not banned?
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