Shaman race help?

[Enxienty]

Looking to make a shaman as my first 60, and was wondering what race should i make him?

Im looking out for him more in the long run then throughout leveling


Thanks and answers and opinions are really appreciated!

[Cyph]

Some posts already exist for this
Shaman Guide For New Players (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=118245)
Which race to pick for Shaman? (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=122664)

Hopefully they'll be helpful.

[Tenlaar]

If you can't handle having low strength, ogre.

If you are afraid that you won't be able to solo tough velious mobs while getting stunned from a bash every minute or two, ogre.

Otherwise, iksar.

/thread

[Enxienty]

making ogre. /thread lol

[trinkets]

basically anything but fail iksar.

[Tenlaar]

Pshaw.

#1/2- Ogre/Iksar, depending on if you prefer stun immunity or regen
#3- Troll
#7- Barb

[trinkets]

At least barbs can use a jbb. Iksar = fail.

[Tenlaar]

JBB is for lazy shamans, which automatically = fail.

[trinkets]

Meh. Go troll if you want regen. No reason to deny yourself access to the second best clicky item in the game.

Ogre is probably the best choice, troll is sexiest and regens, barbs are ok and iksar.. why bother. Make a troll if you want the regen and then you can still use the relatively cheap amazing click.

[citizen1080]

JBB is extremely over rated 55+

And JBB isn't worth dick in Velious when mob HPs jump through the roof.

Trolls are ugly as fuck


Ogre or iksar

I choose iksar for ac bonus and regen.

[Tenlaar]

JBB is extremely over rated 55+

And JBB isn't worth dick in Velious when mob HPs jump through the roof.

Trolls are ugly as fuck


Ogre or iksar

I choose iksar for ac bonus and regen.

This guy knows what's up. If you're clicking a JBB beyond mid-50's you're under performing.

[susvain0362]

recently i have made two shamans, one on each server. One is an iksar and i liked him alot, that extra regen + ac bonus do make a difference. the regen is fantastic for leveling up and in raids makes a difference too. On the other server i've made an ogre shaman and i LOVE it. During fights i can cast all i want and not worry about being interupted/stunned, so nice to have this i've never experienced it before. the downtime is a little slower because ogre's dont regen. But for PvP im glad i chose ogre, i suppose if you're looking at raiding most importantly than iksar would be better in a raid over ogre.

JBB is a bracer that you right click at lvl 46 for a big DoT that you could also cast without the bracer. Iksars cant use to velius, the other 3 races can. However this item is about 45-50k so it is very far away.

Iksar or Ogre. pick which you think looks cooler. or if one of the bonus really appeals to you. Ogres can buy spells in Grobb too

[gotrocks]

I choose iksar for ac bonus and regen.

bob and i both been sayin this for a long time now.

once velious hits all you ogre/troll shamans gonna b mad as fuck.

jbb means little @ 60, iksars can wear all the cool velious gear, will have regen, wont be fat, and will get a nice ac bonus above the cap to help out.

*edit*

forgot to mention iksars have the best leveling track 1-60 by FAR, the best starting city as far as accessibility to class spells and leveling zones, and some of the best mid lvl quest armor you can find (and its easy to get, too)

[Jarnauga]

Cool shamans play barb.

[khanable]

Cool shamans play iksar.

[Millburn]

Only one race gets kilts, I think the choice is obvious.

[Rhambuk]

Troll Female without a doubt.

Why?

http://zam.zamimg.com/images/6/6/6688972522298da209cdf4f4947c40bf.png

[ncapatina]

There is a post about this in the class forums.

Throw out any of the crap about starting areas, exp penalty, leveling or any of that. Eventually none of that will matter.

Only one shaman race has an ability that cannot be duplicated by any item or spell, frontal stun immunity. When it really comes down to it, you're weighing stun immunity vs. regeneration and I will take stun immunity over extra regen every time.

[Rhambuk]

There is a post about this in the class forums.

Throw out any of the crap about starting areas, exp penalty, leveling or any of that. Eventually none of that will matter.

Only one shaman race has an ability that cannot be duplicated by any item or spell, frontal stun immunity. When it really comes down to it, you're weighing stun immunity vs. regeneration and I will take stun immunity over extra regen every time.

Why I chose ogre.

Did they ever fix frontal stun immunity btw?

[Ahldagor]

what about that knock back from hits?

[Turp_SmokinPurp]

http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h468/Turp420/EQEQ/50928092-5de3-42c8-8e25-c217e4c045c6.jpg (http://s1111.photobucket.com/user/Turp420/media/EQEQ/50928092-5de3-42c8-8e25-c217e4c045c6.jpg.html)

If going to raid, Iksar best.

For a solo sham play another race so you can wear JBB.

[trinkets]

I will agree that 55+ the JBB is not as insanely overpowered as it is at level 45. I didn't get mine until level 59 but it was still awesome. Anyone disputing that (I think the single best free damage item in the game?) isn't awesome simply hasn't had a chance to use it enough.

Fugly iksars aren't a bad choice overall, but once you get torpor that regen matters less.

[Clark]

Ogre. If not Ogre, Troll :D

[Origin]

Ogre shaman with guise.

Frontal stun immunity while looking awesome > *.

Also, those of you who are talking shit about using a JBB past lvl 55, are you bad? Do you even have a 55+ shaman?

[Tenlaar]

Also, those of you who are talking shit about using a JBB past lvl 55, are you bad? Do you even have a 55+ shaman?

Do you? Yes, a JBB is nice to have if you want to be lazy. And yes, a shaman is more effective using his spells than a JBB.

[Swish]

Did the missing Cabilis alchemy vendors turn up yet? I'm not completely up on every set of patch notes.

If not, don't play an iksar :p

[koros]

Do you? Yes, a JBB is nice to have if you want to be lazy. And yes, a shaman is more effective using his spells than a JBB.

Are you dumb? it's sustained 33 dps that allows for procs/melee between swings. Without draining mana.

[Millburn]

I think you're all missing the bigger picture here... Barbarians have kilts, the choice is literally made for you. The fact that you can use JBB as a barb is just added bonus.

[Sckrilla]

This guy knows what's up. If you're clicking a JBB beyond mid-50's you're under performing.
If you do have a 55+ Shaman and you truly think this, you are just bad.

Cool shamans play barb.
QFT. The power of Barba Hammer + JBB should not be underestimated.

[spoils]

Are you dumb? it's sustained 33 dps that allows for procs/melee between swings. Without draining mana.

if you've played a high end shaman, you should watch the shammies that are soloing 4+ mobs at once...they don't have time to click jbb between keeping mobs rooted, epic'ed, and canni'ing...

i mean...i guess you could sit there and spamm jbb but we're all min/maxers here right?

I'd only use a jbb if 60 barb shaman with barbarian spiritists' hammer and soloing sebilis/HS for lewtz...if KC, i'd just root rot all day...

[Tenlaar]

if you've played a high end shaman, you should watch the shammies that are soloing 4+ mobs at once...they don't have time to click jbb between keeping mobs rooted, epic'ed, and canni'ing...

Ding ding ding. Like I said, if you're lazy - i.e. soloing one mob at a time in a fairly safe location - JBB is handy. If you're playing as well as you should be, it's not.

[Sckrilla]

While leveling up my Shaman, I did a lot here and there in KC root rotting 4-10 mobs at once. But good luck trying to do that every night you log into the most populated zone in all of P99. You won't be root rotting like that as successfully in Seb/HS, that's for sure. I still use JBB all the time @ 60 when farming named mobs like Heiro and such. Still one of the most useful clickies in Kunark, period.

[gotrocks]

Ding ding ding. Like I said, if you're lazy - i.e. soloing one mob at a time in a fairly safe location - JBB is handy. If you're playing as well as you should be, it's not.

lolwut?

then who gives a fuck about jbb.

also, this guy said he was a lowbie, right? probably not going to afford a jbb anytime soon.

you guys don't have to believe the iksar shaman contingent around here. just wait till velious. Everyone gonna be mad as hell they aren't a secksy iksar shaman.

[koros]

Iksar shaman will also be able to solo (if their AC is working correctly), mobs that hit harder than any other shaman race come Velious.

That said, A barb can put out 33 + ~17 dps using hammer and slowing themselves + hammer melee dps. Sustained indefinitely.

If you're soloing a mob that summons and time is of any importance, you're not going to beat that any other way.

If you're in a group and need to maximize your dps, you're not going to beat it with just epic.

Yes if you're soloing 5 mobs, you're better off just letting epic tick, but that's slow, not good vs mobs with high MR, and not best for single targets.

If you're only root rotting as a 60 shaman you're the one not playing your class to the most of its abilities.