Anyone play Hearthstone? I just got a key today

[Orotiagito]

They sent out keys today, and I got one :) Does anyone play? is it fun? I'm really busy with my SK atm so I dunno if I'll try it yet.

[Knuckle]

i want a key

[jh0242]

They sent out keys today, and I got one :) Does anyone play? is it fun? I'm really busy with my SK atm so I dunno if I'll try it yet.

I would love to play. I'll give you 800 mil Diablo 3 softcore us gold for it.

[Swish]

Nice job on getting a key. I'm not jealous. Really. I'm not ;)

How many PMs did you get so far? lol

[Swish]

Nice job on getting a key. I'm not jealous. Really. I'm not ;)l

Who am I kidding?

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/funny-gifs-want.gif

[feanan]

I got the email and deleted it.

I don't get it, whats the big deal about magic the gathering with WoW cards?

Checked in to it briefly, and couldn't figure out why I'd care

[Swish]

Normally? No big deal... but every release this year except maybe GTA5 has been so terrible I'll give anything a go right now.

[Sickle]

I signed up about a month ago. Did not receive E-mail. Back to GTA5 I go

[Swish]

feanen...http://www.ohmagif.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/i-love-you-sir-thanks-for-adopting-me.gif

Installing Hearthstone at the moment, super excited... might even start up a stream if anyone's interested :)

[Sirken]

i have a buddy with a beta key, and i have played hearthstone at his house. at first i was all wtf. but then it grows on you.. not unlike a fungus. its very addicting. fun is had.

my biggest complaint is that people are spending RL $$ on booster packs... in a fucking beta. and i refuse to spend RL money on in game perks.

[Stinkum]

The collectible card gaming genre dovetails so perfectly with the whole free-to-play/microtransactions business model that it's ridiculous. I'm surprised that it took so long for a company like Blizzard to throwing their hat into this. Just release a fun, free-to-play game and make retarded bank selling additional packs and expansions that don't cost anything to develop or upkeep.

[K|mm Barely]

My RL pals trying to get me into this shit. Was hankering to play some MTG tho so idk Wut to do. Can't cut lines of coke with my virtual cards. :/

[Swish]

i have a buddy with a beta key, and i have played hearthstone at his house. at first i was all wtf. but then it grows on you.. not unlike a fungus. its very addicting. fun is had.

my biggest complaint is that people are spending RL $$ on booster packs... in a fucking beta. and i refuse to spend RL money on in game perks.

Agreed on all points...its like popping bubble wrap, you can't stop playing "just one more". But yeah, then you stumble upon a guy who has a ton of golden cards, a handful of legendaries etc etc... no way my mostly common deck is going to match up to that.

Winning about 80% of games at the moment (priest and warlock have been the most fun so far) but haven't hit the arena yet.

My RL pals trying to get me into this shit. Was hankering to play some MTG tho so idk Wut to do. Can't cut lines of coke with my virtual cards. :/

Screw MTG Kimm...went with it for about 6 months, spent money, put decks together. It's fun, but competitively people put 4x $50 "win" cards in their deck that are too OP then gloat after the game as if the decks were a match. I like the game, but I quit on the basis that you're just feeding $$$ into a bottomless pit.

[August]

Agreed on all points...its like popping bubble wrap, you can't stop playing "just one more". But yeah, then you stumble upon a guy who has a ton of golden cards, a handful of legendaries etc etc... no way my mostly common deck is going to match up to that.

Winning about 80% of games at the moment (priest and warlock have been the most fun so far) but haven't hit the arena yet.



Screw MTG Kimm...went with it for about 6 months, spent money, put decks together. It's fun, but competitively people put 4x $50 "win" cards in their deck that are too OP then gloat after the game as if the decks were a match. I like the game, but I quit on the basis that you're just feeding $$$ into a bottomless pit.

The game has a cost of entry, I'll give you that. However, if you think that the key to winning is just putting more expensive cards in your deck you're mistaken.

Card valuations go from $.50 to $20 bucks overnight. Almost no cards in the most popular format cost over $20. And even cards that ride high sink low after decks are brewed that destroy certain formats. Understanding the metagame of your local gaming community, the metagame online, and the professional metagame are huge factors in determing if you're 'good' or not. Deckbuilding is one of the pillars of the game, and $$$$ != good deckbuilding.

A serious player knows he's putting money into cards, but he'll know where to properly invest his funds. He/She will also know when to uninvest from cards (hopefully before everyone else). Think of it like a mini-game, Gems, while you play MTG. People who take MTG finance seriously can end up making thousands a year of knowing how the gameplay will shift with each new expansion.

/rant over

[Swish]

http://i.minus.com/jbvf4mwqNc0rBI.jpg

So to play a bit more competitively... £1.50 ($2 ish) per game. Or 150 gold (takes 45 games without any daily quest bonuses).

Pay to win folks, pay to win... I didn't realise it was that bad, but I can't say I'm surprised.

Option 2: Play for fun with basic cards.

Funniest thing was it doesn't let you screen capture the game - had to take a photo on my phone and upload it :p

...if you think that the key to winning is just putting more expensive cards in your deck you're mistaken.

Sorry but that's not the case. Show me a deck of common/uncommons that beats a deck of rares/mythics. The cost of entry therefore is extremely high if you want that thrill of beating a decent deck.

[Kika Maslyaka]

not really different from the other CCG Bliz already done for wow.
not really different from any other CCG where good cards are so rare, that the only way to get them is to $$$, at which point any "skill" goes out of the window.

Gave up on MTG 12 years ago, sat down and designed my own CG for me and my friends to play. Everyone has access to exactly same cards - only skill matters.

[Bardalicious]

wtb key

[Noselacri]

The game is kinda fun, but if you play it for any length of time you start to realize that it's so simple that it hurts gameplay. Like how everything is completely centered around creatures, yet it's so easy to kill any creature that you can't actually give them really interesting mechanics that you can base a build on. It rules out the kinds of combo/tech decks that M:TG was famous for and makes everything about weenie, stomp, burn. Everything's just about damage. You can't build your deck around any one mechanic or combination of cards because of how easy it is to get rid of an opponent's creature if you really need to, so all decks are slight variations of "play a lot of creatures and try to overrun your opponent."

This removes a lot of strategy and knowledge from the game and thus amplifies the influence luck has -- when the one and only win condition in the entire game is to outdamage your opponent with creatures, whoever draws more/better creatures (or creature removal) is going to win almost every time, with skill and tactics having only a minor role in each match. Coupled with the lack of tutor cards and other fetch mechanics, the result is a card game that's even more RNG than Magic, a game that has always been troubled by how much the results are affected by luck.

It's good fun for a month but the simplicity and luck factor will prevent it from becoming a top competitive game.

[Orotiagito]

I gave the key to my friend, he spent $40 or $50? for the largest sell, like 2-3 times now. He stays up all night playing lol.

[August]

Sorry but that's not the case. Show me a deck of common/uncommons that beats a deck of rares/mythics. The cost of entry therefore is extremely high if you want that thrill of beating a decent deck.

This is the deck that won the most recent, most popular format, large scale tournament:

http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1166469

4 Desecration Demon - used to be a <$1 rare
1 Erebos, God of the Dead - brand new mythic, 8 bucks
4 Gray Merchant of Asphodel - 4 common
4 Nightveil Specter - used to be a <$1 rare
2 Pack Rat - used to be (and still is) a $1 rare
Creatures [15]
2 Devour Flesh - common
2 Doom Blade - common
4 Hero's Downfall - rare
4 Thoughtseize - rare (80 dollars of deck is here)
2 Ultimate Price - uncommon
4 Underworld Connections - $1 rare
2 Whip of Erebos - promo rare - extremely easy to get (just show up to a prerelease)
Spells [20]
4 Mutavault - rare (80 dollars of deck is here)
19 Swamp
2 Temple of Deceit - 2$ rare

If you were a keen deck builder and realized the power levels of these cards, this deck is yours for basically a pricetag of $160 - Before this deck was shown off at the pro tour the Desecration Demons, the Pack Rats, and the Nightveil Specters were all less than a dollar each (and now around $10).

Cost of entry is caused by demand of the players. This decklist is 350$ bucks, which is a large number, but it's relatively small compared to the level of competitiveness it provides you. Notice that there are a ton of uncommons/commons, and a ton of dollar rare cards. Oh, and only 1 mythic rare card.

Also being uncommon doesn't mean it's worthless, see:

Kitchen Finks
Spell Snare
Force of Will
Wasteland
Aven Mindcensor
Inquisition of Kozilek

These were all pennies on the dollar cards, but because of what they do and how popular they are, the price has risen, in some cases, tremendously.

Power level is just a dimension put onto a card by rarity. Without that facet of the game you have a completely flat game design area - how can you justify a 3/3 creature with first strike versus just a 3/3 creature? How can you get awesome effects into the game without increasing the mana cost to be uncastable?

Oh and here's the 3rd place deck that it beat, which has a pricetag that is twice as much: http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1166585

[Herb9]

Sorry but that's not the case. Show me a deck of common/uncommons that beats a deck of rares/mythics. The cost of entry therefore is extremely high if you want that thrill of beating a decent deck.

Au contraire. I won first place recently with this heroic shenanigans deck:

Instant (14)

2x Dauntless Onslaught
4x Gods Willing
2x Mizzium Skin
4x Swift Justice
2x Triton Tactics

Land (20)

3x Azorius Guildgate
4x Hallowed Fountain
3x Island
10x Plains

Creature (18)

4x Battlewise Hoplite
4x Fabled Hero
4x Favored Hoplite
4x Phalanx Leader
2x Wingsteed Rider

Enchantment (4)

2x Aqueous Form
2x Ordeal of Thassa

Sorcery (4)

4x Hidden Strings

Sideboard (15)

2x Aqueous Form
3x Brave the Elements
2x Dauntless Onslaught
2x Mizzium Skin
4x Ordeal of Heliod
2x Triton Tactics

most expensive card is Hallowed Fountain at $10 a piece, mostly commons and uncommons, only other rare is Fabled Hero at $2 a piece, total deck value $55, beating decks that cost hundreds with it = priceless.

[Treats]

Been waiting for a key from Blizz from the opt in, no luck yet.

Another round of NA keys was just distributed yesterday (Wednesday 20th), so if anyone is still waiting check your Email.

Open Beta is set for December--

Game Release I think end of December/January--

[Erasong]

been playing. pay to win. not impressed.

[Millburn]

It's a fucking card game of course it's gonna have money sinks.

It's fun as hell though and they've done a great job so far, I'm quite impressed.

[Erasong]

i DO enjoy it dont get me wrong. i just dont really feel like dropping 100$ into the game in order to feel competitive. you could make a magic deck with commons and uncommons..maybe a rare or two, not be top tier.. but still put some smack down on people.

[Millburn]

Isn't Arena the same thing as Drafting in Magic? I haven't actually gotten into that part of it yet but it seemed the same on the surface. Isn't that a way to still be competitive without dumping obscene amounts of money into Hearthstone?

[Kraftwerk]

Question for everyone.

Should I throw down $$ for a MTGO account and do Sealed Deck tourneys for shits and giggles every now and then? I want to relive the magic days of my youth (97-00) during like 3rd edition. Will I achieve that fun?

[Erasong]

Isn't Arena the same thing as Drafting in Magic? I haven't actually gotten into that part of it yet but it seemed the same on the surface. Isn't that a way to still be competitive without dumping obscene amounts of money into Hearthstone?

ya but it costs gold ( money ) to enter as well. granted its not that much and is doable w/o paying anything out of pocket but the grind time vs the 2 dollar fee is laughable.

[Millburn]

How long does each Arena take to complete?

[Erasong]

till you lose 3 or win 9. reward is based on how many matches youve won.

[Swish]

If anyone subscribes to wowcrendor (http://www.youtube.com/user/wowcrendor) on YouTube you'll see he's bought so many packs of cards he's got about 2 copies of everything...and is close to a full set.

Online games are getting more and more sickening for pay to win. BF4 makes me laugh as well, everything that I'd call standard is now on "premium", if you don't subscribe you're basically on "free trial" status having bought the full game... shit's ridiculous.

[Ahldagor]

If anyone subscribes to wowcrendor (http://www.youtube.com/user/wowcrendor) on YouTube you'll see he's bought so many packs of cards he's got about 2 copies of everything...and is close to a full set.

Online games are getting more and more sickening for pay to win. BF4 makes me laugh as well, everything that I'd call standard is now on "premium", if you don't subscribe you're basically on "free trial" status having bought the full game... shit's ridiculous.

greed's killin the industry sadly. proly 1 or 2 actually damn good, solid games come out every year now, but that's a guess from watching my friends play. nothing's really caught my interest except for dragon's dogma.

[dav]

Damn companies doing what they can to make a profit.

IM SO MAD AT THEM RIGHT NOW

brb buying LoL skins

[Swish]

brb buying LoL skins

The difference there is there's absolutely no need to buy a LoL skin because you're not getting anything extra for gameplay. You can't buy a better character exclusive to members/VIPs only etc.

Hearthstone? Yeah you can. If you buy 200 packs of cards you can disenchant the extra unneeded copies for dust, which can then make "epic/legendary" cards with enough of it... so paying to get an advantage.

BF4? Priority queueing on servers? Exclusive weapons (coming in expansions) etc.

...bring back a flat rate subscription per month that has everyone on the same level :)

[Millburn]

Hearthstone? Yeah you can. If you buy 200 packs of cards you can disenchant the extra unneeded copies for dust, which can then make "epic/legendary" cards with enough of it... so paying to get an advantage.


Swish, I love you dude so don't take this the wrong way. IT'S A FUCKING CARD GAME. Card games have been heavily monetized since their very inception. That's just the nature of playing a card game, you spend a couple bucks on a few packs and open em up to see what you get so you can turn around and throw them in a deck and play vs some friends.

[Swish]

Swish, I love you dude so don't take this the wrong way. IT'S A FUCKING CARD GAME. Card games have been heavily monetized since their very inception. That's just the nature of playing a card game, you spend a couple bucks on a few packs and open em up to see what you get so you can turn around and throw them in a deck and play vs some friends.

Yeah I can't sell Hearthstone cards on through eBay etc though. So there's no "collector" element to it... that's the difference, and why it doesn't work for me :p

[Millburn]

Yeah I can't sell Hearthstone cards on through eBay etc though. So there's no "collector" element to it... that's the difference, and why it doesn't work for me :p

That's actually a really good point. Do you know if there's trading in MTG:O? I haven't actually played the online version of magic.

[Kraftwerk]

That's actually a really good point. Do you know if there's trading in MTG:O? I haven't actually played the online version of magic.

There is. I just signed up on Friday. $100, many booster packs and sealed 6 booster tournaments later I am immersed as fuck in the new set Theros. I've gotten few mythic rare foils too, p fun.

[Swish]

In all honesty I think I'd be better off on MTG:O if I had the ££ to spend :p

[arsenalpow]

Question for everyone.

Should I throw down $$ for a MTGO account and do Sealed Deck tourneys for shits and giggles every now and then? I want to relive the magic days of my youth (97-00) during like 3rd edition. Will I achieve that fun?

terrible idea

they just cancelled all premiere level events, total waste now

[nilbog]

Question for everyone.

Should I throw down $$ for a MTGO account and do Sealed Deck tourneys for shits and giggles every now and then? I want to relive the magic days of my youth (97-00) during like 3rd edition. Will I achieve that fun?

It'd be more fun to webcam a game w/ me, using cards from 97-00.

I played sealed deck tournaments till after Urza's. That's when I personally thought it wasn't as fun.

[arsenalpow]

It'd be more fun to webcam a game w/ me, using cards from 97-00.

I played sealed deck tournaments till after Urza's. That's when I personally thought it wasn't as fun.

urza block was beyond broken, new magic is just battle cruiser magic, make monsters etc etc, they neutered all the fun out of magic

[nilbog]

urza block was beyond broken, new magic is just battle cruiser magic, make monsters etc etc, they neutered all the fun out of magic

Quit playing when they added Luclin models to the cards.

post-Scourge, I have 0 cards.

[arsenalpow]

Quit playing when they added Luclin models to the cards.

post-Scourge, I have 0 cards.

i started in tempest, stopped during masque block, came back at the start of ravnica, played competitively through scars.