Server PVE Wipe?

[Shift]

What do you think?
Do you think we need a server wipe start fresh?

[JayN]

confirmed

[Lammy]

I don't know why no one has thought of this...

[Pint]

confirmed

[pharmakos]

I don't know why no one has thought of this...

[Glitterati]

nope. never. build a bridge and get over it.

[Lyra]

im allergic to the word wipe. remove it from your vocab. :)

[Kohedron]

It's as if it hasn't been confirmed numerous times that a wipe isn't going to happen

[danceparty]

poll is: 9 yes, and 13 no. this settles it once and for all. there will be no server wipe. thanks for bringing us all together to make this decision shift.

[pharmakos]

your only hope is that they might start a new PVE server after velious is complete, with a more accurate timeline.

[Intrinsic]

If there is a problem from what i read it's people with many many accounts with chars logged out at encounters ready to just logon, instead of it being a race like in the good ol days.

[myriverse]

No wipes. Ever.

[Shift]

poll is: 9 yes, and 13 no. this settles it once and for all. there will be no server wipe. thanks for bringing us all together to make this decision shift.

it's still calculating ^...... and going and going. or is it going or to staying
or is it gone like a Nissan Skyline GTR in the dark cloudy night.

[Spitty]

I'm glad I chose to invest my time in a character on a server that isn't guided by the whim of idiotic polls.

[Vohl]

Where's the vote to ban anyone who ever solicits a server wipe from this moment forward?

[Spitty]

Vohl, I would throw my hat in that ring so goddamn hard it would leave a crater.

[Clark]

I'm down for anything, either way

[Calabee]

why oh fucking why is there always retards wanting a wipe on each and every server outtage.... NEWSFLASH: IT'S NOT HAPPENING EINSTEIN

[SamwiseRed]

wipe it clean imho

[BillyCranston]

your only hope is that they might start a new PVE server after velious is complete, with a more accurate timeline.

That would be nice to see.

[SamwiseRed]

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr03/2013/1/15/12/enhanced-buzz-26026-1358272796-1.jpg

[feanan]

Once you add in all the early players who exploited their items and cash, or farmed 100 manastones, etc, and you add all the people who have paid real money for items and characters, you can easily figure out why the majority of people wouldn't be up for a wipe.

[SamwiseRed]

ya lots of $$ at stake with a wipe

[Gecko]

I'd vote for a fresh P99 server, and leave the guilds with all their high end guys alone on this one. I am, however, new to this server.

I think many of the issues will be solved with Velious. The issue of guilds with people with 4 or 5 max level alts will bleed over. It'd be nice if when Velious was released, they'd release a P99B server for those wanting a fresh experience.

[JayN]

Once you add in all the early players who exploited their items and cash, or farmed 100 manastones, etc, and you add all the people who have paid real money for items and characters, you can easily figure out why the majority of people wouldn't be up for a wipe.

Srsly thats going to piss off a lot of mac players they payed good RL money for those pixles

[Shift]

Once you add in all the early players who exploited their items and cash, or farmed 100 manastones, etc, and you add all the people who have paid real money for items and characters, you can easily figure out why the majority of people wouldn't be up for a wipe.
I agree on that, that is definitely the truth.
But some people will go to all length to have the best.
Like buying characters i find that begin lazy.
Also people using exploits it will happens no matter what.

People will find a way to corrupt the server somehow or another.
That's the reality of how us humans think.

[NegaStoat]

I voted no as I couldn't figure out what the purpose of it would be.

I am a bit confused as to what direction the staff may or may not take with the game in regards to servers. I'll explain.

With the PvP server, we have an underpopulated heap of shi... I mean, people, that was a result of numerous launch problems, bugs, and later GM decisions & bans that left people with questions. Moving forward, a new PvP teams server was announced as being considered. So what would happen with the old PvP server?

The initial answer was that both servers would run side-by-side for 8 to 10 months, then both PvP servers would be merged. No details were mentioned as to which ending rules set would be used, although it was implied that the Teams rules would continue.

A reasoning for the merger being forced on a "fresh" server wasn't really given other than an unspoken, implied "we don't want the existing PvP server players to lose all their shit." reason. So... whatever.

Moving forward to the PvE server scene. Since Wiping a server isn't a considered option for the PvP server fiasco described above, it's a given that that we won't see a PvE server wipe either. Ever.

Yet at the same time, it's been mentioned repeatedly that the development of the game and expansions was being done for the sole reason of it being finished one day, and thus the entire thing could be played and enjoyed in a traditional Time Release fashion.

So what would this mean? It means if it ever happened, the existing PvE server would become a ghost town as the new "pure" PvE server launch would grab everyone and their grandmother. Yet a ghost town transition of a server is what they wanted to avoid with the PvP server situation mentioned above, thus the merger.

I really don't know what's up with the facts that have been tossed out, and I kinda feel that I'll continue to not know what's up.

[SamwiseRed]

I agree on that, that is definitely the truth.
But some people will go to all length to have the best.
Like buying characters i find that begin lazy.
Also people using exploits it will happens no matter what.

People will find a way to corrupt the server somehow or another.
That's the reality of how us humans think.

your sig is to too long.

[Shift]

your sig is to too long.
aye thanks I wasting time all while server was down ,
I did not want to save that lol.

[Ravager]

All the yes votes should have their accounts wiped and then they can have the fresh start feeling they're after.

[Hailto]

Why are people still making these threads, devs have said numerous times this will never happen.

[Clark]

Once you add in all the early players who exploited their items and cash, or farmed 100 manastones, etc, and you add all the people who have paid real money for items and characters, you can easily figure out why the majority of people wouldn't be up for a wipe.

Couldn't be more right. I'm plenty happy with things at the moment, but I also wouldn't care if a wipe occurred. Long as a classic server is up I'm happy.

[Spitty]

Why are people still making these threads, devs have said numerous times this will never happen.

Because the world is still littered with morons who wake up and feel like their shitty opinion about Project 1999 is worth something.

Seriously, I've never once thought "Hey, that person over there has put a lot of time and effort into building that thing. I think I'll just go destroy it for some reason I just invented in my head." It takes a very special kind of sociopath, I think, to get to that point of empathy-lacking mental retardation.

In closing, all of you mouth breathers with server wipe fantasies are cordially invited to gather those fantasies up, fashion them into a dull implement and violently go fuck yourself into unconsciousness.

[Champion_Standing]

Voting yes because I hate you guys

[Lagaidh]

Vohl, I would throw my hat in that ring so goddamn hard it would leave a crater.

I like that metaphor. I shall steal it.

[Relictor]

yeah server wipe right after you finally make level 60.

[Clark]

Because the world is still littered with morons who wake up and feel like their shitty opinion about Project 1999 is worth something.

Seriously, I've never once thought "Hey, that person over there has put a lot of time and effort into building that thing. I think I'll just go destroy it for some reason I just invented in my head." It takes a very special kind of sociopath, I think, to get to that point of empathy-lacking mental retardation.

In closing, all of you mouth breathers with server wipe fantasies are cordially invited to gather those fantasies up, fashion them into a dull implement and violently go fuck yourself into unconsciousness.

http://s8.postimg.org/hkcy16q45/11111111112222222222.jpg

:D

[Lagaidh]

Why are people still making these threads, devs have said numerous times this will never happen.

Best I can reason on these boards...

The topics that are beaten into the ground are ones that a lot of people end up thinking about at some point. This means different rounds of folks pick up an issue and we see it repeated (outside of the long-term fanatics. For them, I have no explanation).

This is a good thing in a way. It means new people become engaged with the community.

[Atmas]

I'm glad I chose to invest my time in a character on a server that isn't guided by the whim of idiotic polls.

[Spitty]

This is a good thing in a way. It means new people become engaged with the community.

I suppose. It still irks me that apparently people think it's acceptable to just show up and go "hey, this is cool what you guys have going, but how about we get rid of a few years' worth of player history so I can experience this the way I want." It's just selfish.

Also, +10 for the Bobcats.

[andromax]

This is a terrible idea, poopsockers will be poopsockers and they will end up right back where they were because you wont play 1/10 of what they will.

Server wipe would accomplish nothing.

[runlvlzero]

wipe it clean imho

[Thulack]

So whats gonna change if they wipe it clean. Everyone that still plays hardcore will do the same thing and in 6 months all the casuals will be complaining about the exact same things.

[Teppler]

I suppose. It still irks me that apparently people think it's acceptable to just show up and go "hey, this is cool what you guys have going, but how about we get rid of a few years' worth of player history so I can experience this the way I want." It's just selfish.

Also, +10 for the Bobcats.

Why aren't people allowed to have an opinion on how they want to experience this game?

[theguyy]

Clean slate is meaningless without reversal of so many non-classic class nerfs, a fix to non classic ac, and not continuing to let non classic charm duration run rampant.

[Champion_Standing]

This is a terrible idea, poopsockers will be poopsockers and they will end up right back where they were because you wont play 1/10 of what they will.

Server wipe would accomplish nothing.

Sockers gonna sock

[Spitty]

Don't confuse the act of pointing out how selfish an opinion is with the act of denying the right to have an opinion to a group of people. They're radically different statements.

It can be your opinion that the server should be wiped. Fine. I get that some people don't possess the basic reasoning required to identify how that indiscriminately fucks over those of us who've invested a lot of time into legitimately building a useful character.

I'm reminded of a gem of a passage from a book in the Ender's Game series, where it is stated that voicing something stupid is actually beneficial; to keep quiet is to hold on to your stupidity, to embrace it. Voicing it allows for the opportunity for someone to correct it and show error in one's ways.

So, state your opinion - and rest assured I'll be hanging around to point out again and again how shortsighted, selfish and idiotic you have to be to harbor an opinion like that.

[theguyy]

^Gotten to

[Champion_Standing]

The best times on this server were definitely within the first few months. Was so much fun playing with ONLY fresh characters, crawling through every doable dungeon just to get every scrap of gear that I could find. For a very short time the server actually felt like classic EQ but with global chat, I am so glad that I got to take part in it.

All you new people should just take solace in the fact that some of us got to experience it, and that we still love our DE masks and manastones.

[Teppler]

Don't confuse the act of pointing out how selfish an opinion is with the act of denying the right to have an opinion to a group of people. They're radically different statements.

It can be your opinion that the server should be wiped. Fine. I get that some people don't possess the basic reasoning required to identify how that indiscriminately fucks over those of us who've invested a lot of time into legitimately building a useful character.

I'm reminded of a gem of a passage from a book in the Ender's Game series, where it is stated that voicing something stupid is actually beneficial; to keep quiet is to hold on to your stupidity, to embrace it. Voicing it allows for the opportunity for someone to correct it and show error in one's ways.

So, state your opinion - and rest assured I'll be hanging around to point out again and again how shortsighted, selfish and idiotic you have to be to harbor an opinion like that.

It's not always stupid opinions, people just have a lot of varying experiences and desires.

I haven't lobbied or voted but I wouldn't mind a server wipe so much. Your accomplishments mean nothing to me. I play this game for my enjoyment and I think I could have a lot of fun rerolling a new toon with the rest of the server and might even try to get involved with high level guild stuff if that were to happen.

[runlvlzero]

So whats gonna change if they wipe it clean. Everyone that still plays hardcore will do the same thing and in 6 months all the casuals will be complaining about the exact same things.

There will be an entirely new set of hamsters spinning the wheels to be first.

The I honestly doubt a wipe the same set of people would be able to compete with all the fresh meat at an even playing field with the same ease as being already established.

People got lucky when the server pops were lower and they had more play time. It was less about skill and more about being at the right place and time.

Fresh wipe, fresh place, fresh time.

[myriverse]

Eesh... what a sense of entitlement. There's nothing stopping you from getting involved now.

[Teppler]

There will be an entirely new set of hamsters spinning the wheels to be first.

The I honestly doubt a wipe the same set of people would be able to compete with all the fresh meat at an even playing field with the same ease as being already established.

People got lucky when the server pops were lower and they had more play time. It was less about skill and more about being at the right place and time.

Fresh wipe, fresh place, fresh time.

I'll jump on the wheel. :cool:

[Lagaidh]

I suppose. It still irks me that apparently people think it's acceptable to just show up and go "hey, this is cool what you guys have going, but how about we get rid of a few years' worth of player history so I can experience this the way I want." It's just selfish.

Also, +10 for the Bobcats.

Humans are selfish. I know this is a life sim, but we're all human behind the pixels.

[runlvlzero]

Eesh... what a sense of entitlement. There's nothing stopping you from getting involved now.

idgaf

It's not about entitlement.

I am just stating the facts.

If I want'd to be on the pixel wheel, I had since b4 march 2010, cause y'know I played before I registered here.

For some it would be an interesting change to the dynamics of the server.

Both servers had their fair share of 'sploitins too. At launch. They are still irioning out lotsa issues with EMU code and original game stuff (ivandy's???). Some shit was just easier cause classic wasn't implemented. Epic MQ's still need to be looked into. They weren't as easy to attain on live as they are here, due to faction or w/e.

TBH I don't personally want to wipe your guys pixels, but a relaunch when the bugs are ironed out of velious would be baller. From a purely, I like the leveling/competitive aspect. Not the end game time investment perspective.

*final edits done XD

[Thulack]

There will be an entirely new set of hamsters spinning the wheels to be first.

The I honestly doubt a wipe the same set of people would be able to compete with all the fresh meat at an even playing field with the same ease as being already established.

People got lucky when the server pops were lower and they had more play time. It was less about skill and more about being at the right place and time.

Fresh wipe, fresh place, fresh time.

Gear and playtime really have nothing to do with being able to get to a mob before everyone else. All it takes it 1 person to let a bunch of very mobile people know and they will beat a bunch of people that are online already just scattered through zones.

[Nune]

servers down for 5 hours and a wipe poll is posted, shits classic. sorry continue your angry opinions about shit thats never gonna happen

[Reguiy]

Why are people still making these threads, devs have said numerous times this will never happen.

I present to you, the internet! Ever been?

[Ambrotos]

It's been stated that there won't be a wipe. If you wish to rehash the same question, do a search and look at those threads.