Dragon/Raid Mob Kills

[dav]

Hi all. Rather than have FE (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=119609) and TMO (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=91271) update their guild recruitment threads each and every single time they down a dragon in an attempt to one-up and troll the other, I figured we could raise some awareness, inform the potential recruits and keep track of who is actually killing what.

Keep the trolling to your individual guild recruitment threads/RnF forum please, this is for keeping track of who has the latest kills, thanks!

Without further ado..

THE BOARD
Lord Nagafen - TMO
Lady Vox - TMO
Innoruuk - FE/IB
Dracoliche - FE/IB
Cazic Thule - FE/IB
Venril Sathir - FE/IB
Faydedar - FE/IB
Severilous - FE/IB
Talendor - FE/IB
Gorenaire - FE/IB
Trakanon - TMO
VP - TMO

[dav]

Also interested in what people think we can add/remove from this list. Personally I'm all for removing Maestro if that's the consensus, or possibly adding Efreeti as much as I don't want to add anything from sky. Let me know your thoughts. :)

[Alarti0001]

You can keep efreeti off and can def remove Maestro lol. Also, TMO got trakanon. You should also list all mobs in VP since FE/IB has over 100 vp keys and have a force camped inside.

[dav]

You can keep efreeti off and can def remove Maestro lol.

This is actually the direction I was leaning towards. If a few more people chime in and mention the same I will do this.

Alarti, can you verify the last naggy/vox/trak/fay kills for me?

[Alarti0001]

This is actually the direction I was leaning towards. If a few more people chime in and mention the same I will do this.

Alarti, can you verify the last naggy/vox/trak/fay kills for me?

naggy/vox/trak is TMO no idea on Fay we hardly even track that anymore, I'd assume FE?

[dav]

Updated, thank you.

[Alarti0001]

Updated, thank you.

You should list all VP dragons, for the reason i mentioned above.

You also, realize clark is never going to stop bumping his thread every 22 mins right?

[kotton05]

????
Gore is FE/IB unless I'm missing something

[dav]

????
Gore is FE/IB unless I'm missing something

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=91271&page=36

I'm assuming this means TMO just killed Gore. If the last one was from the 25th and Zeelot meant something else then I will correct.

[Alarti0001]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=91271&page=36

I'm assuming this means TMO just killed Gore.

I think FE/IB got Gore... a mob even less important than Maestro. Think they killed at at around 4am. Def worth waking up for.
EDIT**Oh no that post is for Vox white dragon... the one with the better loot table haha

[dav]

I think FE/IB got Gore... a mob even less important than Maestro. Think they killed at at around 4am. Def worth waking up for.
EDIT**Oh no that post is for Vox white dragon... the one with the better loot table haha

Updated. Thank you Alarti.

This list is now steady and will only need updated as new things die. Thanks for the help.

P.S. Not EVERY comment you make needs to be an insult. Let's keep this thread clean pls. ;)

[Motec]

You can keep efreeti off and can def remove Maestro lol. Also, TMO got trakanon. You should also list all mobs in VP since FE/IB has over 100 vp keys and have a force camped inside.



Agree on listing VP mobs.


And lol at force camped inside, maybe 3 characters ever. This aint tmo bro

[Motec]

And how about fuck off the kill gloating, does anybody really give a fuck?

Grats on dragons, whoever killed them. Dead dragons ftw.

[Alarti0001]

Updated. Thank you Alarti.

This list is now steady and will only need updated as new things die. Thanks for the help.

P.S. Not EVERY comment you make needs to be an insult. Let's keep this thread clean pls. ;)

I can insult the quality of the dragons if I want to. I am sure other guilds still benefit from RBB/DHB/Cold shield from gore.
Also, isn't it lame that Gore(the hardest non VP-dragon) has such a shit loot table :(

[Alarti0001]

Agree on listing VP mobs.


And lol at force camped inside, maybe 3 characters ever. This aint tmo bro

We have counted 20 separate accounts... you aren't sneaky :P

[MaximiusM]

No Inny?

[Alarti0001]

And how about fuck off the kill gloating, does anybody really give a fuck?

Grats on dragons, whoever killed them. Dead dragons ftw.

Talk to you raid team :P We only bump our thread to see how long it takes clark to rebump FE. Entertainment in the highest form!.
Also, Tal/Inny weren't really TMO contested this week Merkk dog

[dav]

No Inny?

Added in place of Maestro, thank you! Made an executive decision to take Maestro off because LOL maestro and I'm not sure anyone really cares. If we care about Maestro/freeti at some point I can add them back.

[Motec]

We have counted 20 separate accounts... you aren't sneaky :P

At most:
cleric monk sham rog

Thats all I can think of, and I have access to a lot of toons, I dont even leave them in VP and thats guys who havnt played for yonks.

Dont let that get in the way of a good story. I leave more chars at VS than I do at VP or trak (none).

[Motec]

Out of curiosity, with all those accounts logged in, how come we need to run every char to VP anytime we go there? Wouldnt we just log on 75% of the raid force on these magical toons tucked away?

[kotton05]

I can insult the quality of the dragons if I want to. I am sure other guilds still benefit from RBB/DHB/Cold shield from gore.
Also, isn't it lame that Gore(the hardest non VP-dragon) has such a shit loot table :(

yea a cof, dhb, and white scale from her was so shitty...

[Alarti0001]

Out of curiosity, with all those accounts logged in, how come we need to run every char to VP anytime we go there? Wouldnt we just log on 75% of the raid force on these magical toons tucked away?

30 sloan alts likely

[feanan]

seems like this is just an extension of the guild threads stroking themselves. shocking

anything TMO kills...most important mobs ever. Anything they lose...well, they weren't really trying, or its not important.

yawn. this thread will end up in rnf today at some point.

[Godefroi]

It's gonna be hard to keep this non RnF with Alarti posting this much since TMO has lost so many targets lately, just saying :D

[Alarti0001]

I can insult the quality of the dragons if I want to. I am sure other guilds still benefit from RBB/DHB/Cold shield from gore.
Also, isn't it lame that Gore(the hardest non VP-dragon) has such a shit loot table :(

yea a cof, dhb, and white scale from her was so shitty...


Read again

[Motec]

30 sloan alts likely

He has 3 chars he plays with any frequency that I've seen. Spends most of his time at server select from logging on shit.

Which would be amazing, except engaging phara dar on a war, then /q'ing to a rogue to backstab, then a cleric to elixir, then a shaman, then a monk, etc etc would be a terribly inefficient way to kill shit, even if he has 30 toons nobody knows about who noone but him plays.

[dav]

seems like this is just an extension of the guild threads stroking themselves. shocking

anything TMO kills...most important mobs ever. Anything they lose...well, they weren't really trying, or its not important.

yawn

I'm hoping that turns out not to be the case! Even if it does, we hopefully have one central place where people can bitch and moan, and anyone that cares can just refer to the OP and then close the thread without having to wade through the pages bullshit. :)

I'm sure forum mods can attest to the fact that FE/TMO recruitment threads end up just being heavily moded bragging matches with the occasional cross-over that breaks out into full-blown RnF.

They should just ban anyone for posting RnF material in those threads and sticky/moderate this one. Should help clean up/clarify things, but that's their call!

In the meantime, at least we have clearly presented information readily available in the first post for anyone interested. :)

[Alarti0001]

seems like this is just an extension of the guild threads stroking themselves. shocking

anything TMO kills...most important mobs ever. Anything they lose...well, they weren't really trying, or its not important.

yawn. this thread will end up in rnf today at some point.

When you have been on top for years...you might have a full guild bank too. Please tell me how DHB #325 really matters to us.

Take PD...that will matter, we will care.

[Alarti0001]

He has 3 chars he plays with any frequency that I've seen. Spends most of his time at server select from logging on shit.

Which would be amazing, except engaging phara dar on a war, then /q'ing to a rogue to backstab, then a cleric to elixir, then a shaman, then a monk, etc etc would be a terribly inefficient way to kill shit, even if he has 30 toons nobody knows about who noone but him plays.

...... you aren't in on the Sloan alt army jokes yet :(

[Lojik]

When you have been on top for years...you might have a full guild bank too. Please tell me how DHB #325 really matters to us.

Take PD...that will matter, we will care.

I volunteer to help lighten the burden of that full guild bank! I mean, if you're not using DHB #325! =D

[Alarti0001]

I volunteer to help lighten the burden of that full guild bank! I mean, if you're not using DHB #325! =D

Its burden only we can carry. It was tasked upon us by Brell himself. It would not do well to burden you with our charge.

[Lojik]

Its burden only we can carry. It was tasked upon us by Brell himself. It would not do well to burden you with our charge.

Beavis Christ's cross to bear...or something like that?

[Alarti0001]

Beavis Christ's cross to bear...or something like that?

Haha Absolutely, hallowed be his name.

[Motec]

When you have been on top for years...you might have a full guild bank too. Please tell me how DHB #325 really matters to us.

Take PD...that will matter, we will care.

WTB DHB btw. Hit me up.

[Funkutron5000]

It's good to see actual game-related shit in Rnf again for a change.

[Tanthallas]

CT for FE / IB - only 2 Sloans utilized.

[kotton05]

it was server chat for 10 mins...

[Alarti0001]

WTB DHB btw. Hit me up.

Ill sell you the one on my lvl 14 ranger.

[Motec]

Ill sell you the one on my lvl 14 ranger.

Cool, hit me up. Will PL ranger to 13 too.

[Cecily]

It's good to see actual game-related shit in Rnf again for a change.

Yeah, but we're older, slightly more mature, and still in Kunark. Not sure that anyone really cares about this stuff anymore. Expect my app within the week.

[dav]

it was server chat for 10 mins...

Sigh.. children :D

[Sckrilla]

So what happens if FE/IB happen to kill a mob in VP sometime soon? How will the VP bracket show if it's not broken down per dragon!???? OMG THIS IS BOTHERING ME FIX IT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Autotune]

it was server chat for 10 mins...

Some of the best RNF's came from there.

[Autotune]

Also, this would have ended up here from the very first post.

[Alarti0001]

Also, this would have ended up here from the very first post.

[Elements]

OP if you truely wanted this thread to have value for potential recruits to raiding guilds a more long term tracking of kills might actually have value. Taking a snapshot in time like this is meaningless.

[kotton05]

Ive always heard its not what you've done lately. Its what youre doing now...

[Wotsirb401]

he's going to update in kill by kill

[Shinko]

Maestro is a raid mob still so...

[Alarti0001]

Ive always heard its not what you've done lately. Its what youre doing now...

So you want to recruit based on a healthy week with extenuating circumstances?
Seems like false promises... kinda like last time.

[Alarti0001]

So you want to recruit based on a healthy week with extenuating circumstances?
Seems like false promises... kinda like last time.

Just curious Merkk... how did FE/IB perform last week lol.

[Gaffin']

Alarti's skin is reaching pearl white skin status, immersion levels off the charts bragging about tmo getting trak for the millionth time on a expansion thats been farmed harder than platlords bank.

[Ella`Ella]

Ive always heard its not what you've done lately. Its what youre doing now...

"You're only as good as your last FTE"

[doraf]

Just curious Merkk... how did FE/IB perform last week lol.

The week previous to the OP's list was Trak, Draco, Maestro and OOA. Maybe something else in there. I don't remember.

[Alarti0001]

The week previous to the OP's list was Trak, Draco, Maestro and OOA. Maybe something else in there. I don't remember.

Case in point.

[Ektar]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1164847&postcount=63

[Ektar]

gonna try not to overuse that


already failed

[kotton05]

Case in point ...?

What's changed since last week and this week...

[doraf]

Case in point.

What's wrong with those kills? FE and IB are technically casual raid guilds in comparison to TMO or any hardcore raiding guild from live days. The fact that we mobilize as fast or faster at times is simply amazing imo. We also have less mouths to feed.

FE does not disband members for RL issues or breaks from the game. We have no required raid percentage and only require 5hr tracking per month. We also do not hoard items or plat in our guild bank. I think most people join FE because they 1. enjoy the company and 2. they want to raid. As the recruit officer, I make it clear to all applicants that it is always an up hill battle even when we have a good day, week or month. I never point out the kills we won or lost that week potential apps. The facts are laid out and it's up to the applicant to decide if they want to join or not.

[zanderklocke]

The only way one of these threads would be taken seriously would be if someone from a non-contesting mobs casual raiding guild ran it. Personally, I would pick Azure Guard as best choice because they seem to be the most standup casual guild. Furthermore, it'd have to be a closed thread that only the original poster could edit...it would not likely be appropriate for the poster to be in any of the guilds attempting to kill the mobs.

Otherwise it's an unobjective dick-bragging contest.

I think it would actually be cool to have all raid targets listed in the order and date they were killed like a high score list. Have most recent mob kill on top and go further in the past in descending order.

[Godefroi]

Humor is a must with Alarti

[Alarti0001]

What's wrong with those kills? FE and IB are technically casual raid guilds in comparison to TMO or any hardcore raiding guild from live days. The fact that we mobilize as fast or faster at times is simply amazing imo. We also have less mouths to feed.

FE does not disband members for RL issues or breaks from the game. We have no required raid percentage and only require 5hr tracking per month. We also do not hoard items or plat in our guild bank. I think most people join FE because they 1. enjoy the company and 2. they want to raid. As the recruit officer, I make it clear to all applicants that it is always an up hill battle even when we have a good day, week or month. I never point out the kills we won or lost that week potential apps. The facts are laid out and it's up to the applicant to decide if they want to join or not.

A 240hour VS poopsock is far from casual my deluded sir.

TMO doesn't disband members for RL issues or breaks from the game. We don't require any tracking per month. We don't hoard items or plat in our guild bank.... our members/alts/2xalts are just that well geared.

Confused as to how you got so much inaccurate information.

[Melissa]

you know what would make the OP even more exciting and the raid scene more interesting? An achievement system!

1) Kill Trak with only 1 hand piercing weapons
2) Kill Trak without BP's equipped
3) Kill Trak with only spells (including clickies)

etc.

oh wait that's not classic...but somehow I'm assuming EQN is gonna be like that except shittier...

[Ella`Ella]

FE and IB are technically casual raid guilds in comparison to TMO or any hardcore raiding guild from live days.


If you call us a casual raid guild again, I'll demote you to applicant.

#littlehitler

[Origin]

Fall is here. Winter is coming.

[Ektar]

3) Kill Trak with only spells (including clickies)

Been done


HOOPS

[Ektar]

I just made a cool new gif. i need someone to get trolled.


alarti I'm counting on you


I also am too lazy to read anything that's longer than like 5 words so would appreciate if someone points it out to me (quote it and say trolled or something)

[Origin]

A 240hour VS poopsock is far from casual my deluded sir.

I got my Gnarled Staff, finally. You were my good luck charm, Alarti. Thanks for poopsocking 235/240 hours with us.

[doraf]

A 240hour VS poopsock is far from casual my deluded sir.

WOW! We maintained a kill force online at VS for 240 hours? Very impressive, but untrue, my inaccurate misinformed friend.

[QUOTE=Alarti0001;1164942]We don't hoard items or plat in our guild bank.... our members/alts/2xalts are just that well geared.
[Quote]
Yet you still lose dragons.

[doraf]

If you call us a casual raid guild again, I'll demote you to applicant.

#littlehitler

I was speaking of the sex with your sister. None of us want a relationship with her, but she keeps that pussy nice and tight for us.

[Estolcles]

a 240 poopsock fest would mean 10 days straight of poopsocking with no sleep.

That's some psychotic and bad for your physical health poopsocking right there.

[Clark]

We don't hoard items or plat in our guild bank....

http://s18.postimg.org/gha8hx455/Funny_obama_12.jpg

[Alarti0001]

I got my Gnarled Staff, finally. You were my good luck charm, Alarti. Thanks for poopsocking 235/240 hours with us.

I did 20 actually :) TMO didnt poopsock until last day of window... sorry to disrupt your PR campaign

[Alarti0001]

WOW! We maintained a kill force online at VS for 240 hours? Very impressive, but untrue, my inaccurate misinformed friend.

[QUOTE=Alarti0001;1164942]We don't hoard items or plat in our guild bank.... our members/alts/2xalts are just that well geared.
[Quote]
Yet you still lose dragons.

You had at the lowest 9 people at VS for 240 hours. at the most you had over 30.

Your logic is flawed... we lose dragons due of lack of care in large part because of the amount of loot we have. We don't lose dragons from wipes... we lose because we don't have the care to track most of them. Derp

[Ele]

A shame that this is in RNF now, list can't be updated anymore :(

[Ella`Ella]

Add Trakanon 10.29 FE/IB

[doraf]

[QUOTE=doraf;1164985]WOW! We maintained a kill force online at VS for 240 hours? Very impressive, but untrue, my inaccurate misinformed friend.

[QUOTE=Alarti0001;1164942]We don't hoard items or plat in our guild bank.... our members/alts/2xalts are just that well geared.


You had at the lowest 9 people at VS for 240 hours. at the most you had over 30.

Your logic is flawed... we lose dragons due of lack of care in large part because of the amount of loot we have. We don't lose dragons from wipes... we lose because we don't have the care to track most of them. Derp

Keep putting your foot in your mouth bro.

[Ektar]

I didn't read it all, but SOMEONE got trolled at some point I am sure.


http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/Postorofpictures/trolled_zps875772db.gif

[Hitpoint]

The week previous to the OP's list was Trak, Draco, Maestro and OOA. Maybe something else in there. I don't remember.

+ fay and it was actually two Trakanons that week. We got him on both the 14th and the 17th.

[Visual]

I didn't read it all, but SOMEONE got trolled at some point I am sure.


http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/Postorofpictures/trolled_zps875772db.gif

Helm doesn't match. Fashion faux pas.

[Ektar]

that's a troll's rubi, unfortunately :(

[Derubael]

Ektar please tell me you made that gif the day i trolled you at shady swashbuckler.

Was a good use of troll if so.

[dav]

he's going to update in kill by kill

That's the plan! Since you guys can't stop trolling it in server chat I had to put it somewhere trollproof, lol.

http://whokilledit.com

It's pretty rudimentary for now, I want to add some sort of DB that tracks the updates and can offer historical tracking as well. Going to tinker with it some more in the future.

Any critiques/ideas for improvement welcome.

[Alarti0001]

That's the plan! Since you guys can't stop trolling it in server chat I had to put it somewhere trollproof, lol.

http://whokilledit.com

It's pretty rudimentary for now, I want to add some sort of DB that tracks the updates and can offer historical tracking as well. Going to tinker with it some more in the future.

Any critiques/ideas for improvement welcome.

Still no broken down list of VP lulz

[doraf]

That's the plan! Since you guys can't stop trolling it in server chat I had to put it somewhere trollproof, lol.

http://whokilledit.com

It's pretty rudimentary for now, I want to add some sort of DB that tracks the updates and can offer historical tracking as well. Going to tinker with it some more in the future.

Any critiques/ideas for improvement welcome.

Nice start bro. What Alarti said above. Break down the VP dragons now that you have it setup on your own page and now you can have a Old Dragon table, Kunark, VP, and lesser mobs/gods table.

[Motec]

Still no Project 2000 without fucking exploits, rmt, neckbeards, and 3 years of kunark with 4-600 VP keyed toons.

[dav]

The only way one of these threads would be taken seriously would be if someone from a non-contesting mobs casual raiding guild ran it. Personally, I would pick Azure Guard as best choice because they seem to be the most standup casual guild. Furthermore, it'd have to be a closed thread that only the original poster could edit...it would not likely be appropriate for the poster to be in any of the guilds attempting to kill the mobs.

Otherwise it's an unobjective dick-bragging contest.

I think it would actually be cool to have all raid targets listed in the order and date they were killed like a high score list. Have most recent mob kill on top and go further in the past in descending order.

It's pretty easy to update, if a non bias individual or whatever wants to me help me out just let me know and we can make things happen. It may be difficult for them to keep with when things die unless they have people specifically feeding them information.

The point of this thread is to help stop all of the dick waving, and present some facts so those who aren't raiding can make educated decisions. Nothing more nothing less.

A lot of mobs are currently blue, last week they were red.. adding history and analytics to this thing would rock.

If anyone is up for it and wants to help PST. :)

[dav]

A shame that this is in RNF now, list can't be updated anymore :(

Made a site for this reason! See my sig, and let me know if you would want to help. :)

[Alarti0001]

Still no Project 2000 without fucking exploits, rmt, neckbeards, and 3 years of kunark with 4-600 VP keyed toons.

You need a clooney avatar

[Godefroi]

thats a lot of blue, lets go scuba diving

[Turp_SmokinPurp]

Nice start bro. What Alarti said above. Break down the VP dragons now that you have it setup on your own page and now you can have a Old Dragon table, Kunark, VP, and lesser mobs/gods table.
Do this if can , appreciate the time it takes. An try to show it like week 1 list, than week 2 list etc for a month than reset it back and start over week 1-6 ish than reset again etc.

[Ella`Ella]

Do this if can , appreciate the time it takes. An try to show it like week 1 list, than week 2 list etc for a month than reset it back and start over week 1-6 ish than reset again etc.

Please build the site in HTML 5. Also, create a backlogged database of all kills going back to p99. This shouldn't be hard to do if you get in touch with old members from all the raiding guilds from this server dating back to 2009. You can compile all their records of kills into an excel database and then import it. Thank you.

[Ektar]

Ektar please tell me you made that gif the day i trolled you at shady swashbuckler.

Was a good use of troll if so.

I took the screenshots that night with intention to make a dancing troll gif. Finally put it together today ;)

[Pint]

cant both guilds just post snapshots of their dkp records for each week

[Motec]

You need a clooney avatar

Is that better?

[Godefroi]

trakanon needs to be switched to FE/IB please :D

[Funkutron5000]

So does Silverwing

[Origin]

Winter is coming.

[KimIam89]

Hi all. Rather than have FE (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=119609) and TMO (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=91271) update their guild recruitment threads each and every single time they down a dragon in an attempt to one-up and troll the other, I figured we could raise some awareness, inform the potential recruits and keep track of who is actually killing what.

Keep the trolling to your individual guild recruitment threads/RnF forum please, this is for keeping track of who has the latest kills, thanks!

Without further ado..

THE BOARD
Lord Nagafen - TMO
Lady Vox - TMO
Innoruuk - FE/IB
Dracoliche - FE/IB
Cazic Thule - FE/IB
Venril Sathir - FE/IB
Faydedar - FE/IB
Severilous - FE/IB
Talendor - FE/IB
Gorenaire - FE/IB
Trakanon - FE/IB
VP - TMO
Silverwing - FE/IB
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[Cecily]

As embarrassing as it is for everyone, Taken did get the last Innoruuk. Give them credit. Also, learn what your alliance has actually killed, which is pretty much everything. Congrats guys.

[dav]

Taken did NOT get the last Inny.

I had been leaving VP off the list since TMO has had a 2 year monopoly in there... but uh it's split out now that something changed.

[Origin]

As embarrassing as it is for everyone, Taken did get the last Innoruuk. Give them credit. Also, learn what your alliance has actually killed, which is pretty much everything. Congrats guys.

FE/IB got the last Inny.

[Cecily]

I feel obligated to argue otherwise, because Taken most definitely got the last Inny kill. And checking our boards, they also got the last Fay and Sev. Why aren't you giving them proper credit? Guess it doesn't suit your propaganda campaign.

[Origin]

I feel obligated to argue otherwise, because Taken most definitely got the last Inny kill. And checking our boards, they also got the last Fay and Sev. Why aren't you giving them proper credit? Guess it doesn't suit your propaganda campaign.

Elaborate troll is elaborate! I see what you're doing!

Grats Taken on Inny!!

[baramur]

Fe/ib got trak last yesturday

[kotton05]

we got last inny Cecily, they got one before it =-)

[Gaffin']

Winter is coming.

[getsome]

You guys troll each other too much, Inny is in extended window.

[Godefroi]

Well we have no interest in lying. Taken Got 1 inny ago, we got the last one. Eye/stone + junk.

[Origin]

Wyntir Is Cumming

[kotton05]

You guys troll each other too much, Inny is in extended window.

Oh yea we need a tracker ASAP.

[Motec]

No truce with the shadow

[kotton05]

so hey, talk about numbers here... we had 22 in zone 18 on engage, the 3 drops we're random'd to the classes that were there lol what a loot system...

[FenninEQaddict]

Grats IE or is it FB on Silverwing. So did you really have people camped in zone waiting?

Also Merkk what does it cost to buy your loyalty? I hear TMO wasnt offering enough or didnt pay up when they recruited you. That training they gave you pay off? I hear you had friends in TMO supporting your app. Have they been able to remove the dagger yet or did you stick it in a hard to reach spot in their backs? Guess TMO better watch it the corp..err guild espionage is on!

Its awesome that the competition is on gives me something to read since ill never see the content again.

But no back to what I originally was talking about Grats on the kill.

[kotton05]

guess I was a sloan alt even tho I didn't know it... while in TMO I played same game, made friends as I always do and after no comp I fizzled, snacks who backed me the most I think he understands i just wanted to promote healthy competition. FYI TMO detagged me, when I came back I was guildless with sloan on the phone like I guess lets do it.

[Yapas]

Merkk you know that I appreciate you but IMO Peoples should never follow again a captain who abandons his ship(totally selfish behaviour but he was not alone to leave the ship : eq someone who finally got his epic and left FE to join IB), especially when it was the first middle wave.

your captain remember me this shit guy below
http://md1.libe.com/photo/374008-italy-ship.jpg?modified_at=1330685538

[Godefroi]

Right Yapas, tell us about how you abandonned BDA again please and then talk about jumping ships.

bitch

[Thulack]

I feel obligated to argue otherwise, because Taken most definitely got the last Inny kill. And checking our boards, they also got the last Fay and Sev. Why aren't you giving them proper credit? Guess it doesn't suit your propaganda campaign.

You have shitty boards.

[Alarti0001]

Right Yapas, tell us about how you abandonned BDA again please and then talk about jumping ships.

bitch

To be fair... its BDA... no raider in their right mind is in BDA.

[Yapas]

Right Yapas, tell us about how you abandonned BDA again please and then talk about jumping ships.

bitch

BDA ? Funny times cause Shinko was in psychotic period so mad about TMO.

BDA was/is casual guild and it was natural to join some friends & play with some very good players in TMO.



(totally selfish behaviour but he was not alone to leave the ship : eq someone who finally got his epic and left FE to join IB), especially when it was the first middle wave.



Thanks your answer Visc looks like my bait worked :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Ugpg8XruhVk#t=8

[Jarnauga]

Yapas you have a 60 monk and a 60 necro.

Why dont you never help your guild and go train in vp ? Too afraid to be corpse camped..? Or are you waiting to get a 60 sk too ?

Stop talking shit, you're nothing.

[Yapas]

Yapas you have a 60 monk and a 60 necro.

Why dont you never help your guild and go train in vp ? Too afraid to be corpse camped..? Or are you waiting to get a 60 sk too ?

Stop talking shit, you're nothing.

Yes you are right probably because I am afraid to have my corpse camped for sure LOL.

[Detoxx]

Yapas you have a 60 monk and a 60 necro.

Why dont you never help your guild and go train in vp ? Too afraid to be corpse camped..? Or are you waiting to get a 60 sk too ?

Stop talking shit, you're nothing.

Weren't you in BDA and completely irrelevant, then jumped ship? Stop talking shit, you're nothing.

[Godefroi]

Ya, like there is anything difference by being in IB or FE, since we raid together right ?

Lol dumb bitch.

[Derubael]

I took the screenshots that night with intention to make a dancing troll gif. Finally put it together today ;)

Brilliant, sir :D

[Detoxx]

Ya, like there is anything difference by being in IB or FE, since we raid together right ?

Lol dumb bitch.

lol, only difference is IB takes all the good loot, while FE sucks their tit. I guess I can see why you jumped over there too.

[Alarti0001]

Ya, like there is anything difference by being in IB or FE, since we raid together right ?

Lol dumb bitch.

you sound mad.

[Ektar]

just posted the same thing is two different threads embarrassing omg

[Detoxx]

Uh-oh, busted!

[Thulack]

lol, only difference is IB takes all the good loot, while FE sucks their tit. I guess I can see why you jumped over there too.

Going to be funny once IB takes all FE members and then stabs them in the back when its most convenient to them.

[Visual]

Going to be funny once IB takes all FE members and then stabs them in the back when its most convenient to them.

I can't help but think that FE are the new VD puppets under a different banner.

http://www.dadychery.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/puppet-master.png

[Ektar]

haha that's awesome


because it makes me the user and oppressor I like being powerful

[Signal]

In the thread. TMO starts losing mobs outside and inside VP... Then starts trying to forumquest doubt into the members of the guilds beating them. Kinda sad and funny.

[Alarti0001]

In the thread. TMO starts losing mobs outside and inside VP... Then starts trying to forumquest doubt into the members of the guilds beating them. Kinda sad and funny.

In this thread FE has a good week and tries to convince the populace how it definitely means a long-tern trend is happening.

[Godefroi]

ITT alarti in damage control over 9000

[Alarti0001]

ITT alarti in damage control over 9000

You said the same thing last February... what happened there?

[Alarti0001]

lol, only difference is IB takes all the good loot, while FE sucks their tit. I guess I can see why you jumped over there too.

http://i.imgur.com/TEK4nJn.png

[kotton05]

lol yapas did I jump ship or find myself in the water?

[Godefroi]

TMO mad as fukkkkkkkkkkk see score board in my sig for reason why :D

[Signal]

<a href="http://tinypic.com?ref=voc4ew" target="_blank"><img src="http://i40.tinypic.com/voc4ew.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>

[Signal]

http://tinypic.com/r/voc4ew/5


bah first was a fail.

[Signal]

http://tinypic.com/r/voc4ew/5

[Lazie]

http://i40.tinypic.com/voc4ew.jpg lol here ya go fixed for ya.

[Alarti0001]

4 attempts.... impressive

[Lazie]

4 attempts.... impressive

Gotta admit he has a point. Gif is spot on.

[radditsu]

I agree with that Gif and want to subscribe to its newsletter

[Triangle]

bamp

[Tanthallas]

Merkk you know that I appreciate you but IMO Peoples should never follow again a captain who abandons his ship(totally selfish behaviour but he was not alone to leave the ship : eq someone who finally got his epic and left FE to join IB), especially when it was the first middle wave.

Nice try; but I was actually removed from this 'captain' position as it was thought my services were no longer required.

When I was asked to come back and steer the ship again, after some resistance and Unbrella promising me a carton of marlboro lights, back I came!

[Godefroi]

pothead skank, get back where you belong : in the kitchen !

[Fuddwin]

When I was asked to come back and steer the ship again, after some resistance and Unbrella promising me a carton of marlboro lights, back I came!

RMT!!!

[sedrie.bellamie]

I wonder how recruiting for 2 guilds at once is going for you? If an app has all the gear and knows how to play their class are they allowed in IB? if they are super scrub Lost Cirlce are they kept in FE? Why don't you guys just go back to being VD? Can't handle that many people in one guild? Need one guild for haves and one guild for the have nots?

[Godefroi]

I wonder how recruiting for 2 guilds at once is going for you? If an app has all the gear and knows how to play their class are they allowed in IB? if they are super scrub Lost Cirlce are they kept in FE? Why don't you guys just go back to being VD? Can't handle that many people in one guild? Need one guild for haves and one guild for the have nots?

http://www.spacepub.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/The-Truth-Is-Out-There.jpg

[Confit]

http://fearless-assassins.com/uploads/1278874199/gallery_1410_30_19065.gif

[Cecily]

Oh like Taken ever contributed to a decent thread here. Get back to fields and track our mobs for us.

[Rellapse35]

is this what IB is doing to TMO these days?

http://cdn.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/horsepoop.gif
http://cdn.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/horsepoop.gif
http://cdn.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/horsepoop.gif
http://cdn.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/horsepoop.gif
http://cdn.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/horsepoop.gif
http://cdn.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/horsepoop.gif
http://cdn.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/horsepoop.gif
http://cdn.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/horsepoop.gif
http://cdn.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/horsepoop.gif
http://cdn.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/horsepoop.gif

[Confit]

Oh like Taken ever contributed to a decent thread here. Get back to fields and track our mobs for us.

Woah woah easy killer. Sorry to break up your dick measuring contest.

[Susano]

Oh like Taken ever contributed to a decent thread here. Get back to fields and track our mobs for us.

Woah woah easy killer. Sorry to break up your dick measuring contest.

Oh the irony.

[Cecily]

Haha... yeah.

[Confit]

Oh the irony.

Haha... yeah.

You guys take my comments too seriously :cool:

[Cecily]

Congrats Taken on Talendor!

[Ella`Ella]

When I was asked to come back and steer the ship again, after some resistance and Unbrella promising me a carton of marlboro lights, back I came!

Don't lie. You wanted menthol.

[kotton05]

wtf Ceci... Think a tad b4 you type.

Add gore to TMO
Add trak to FE/IB

[Cecily]

Grats Taken on CT / Draco!

[dav]

Happy to say we now have people from TMO, IB, and FE, all on board with keeping it updated and it appears to be going nicely. I was away most of the weekend and it already came in handy in letting me know what died! :D

[Detoxx]

Change 11/3 Talendor to TMO :p

[Tanthallas]

Trak - FE / IB
Silverwing - FE / IB
Xygoz - TMO
CT / Draco - TMO

[Heebo]

Change 11/3 Talendor to TMO :p

[Alarti0001]

Change 11/3 Talendor to TMO :p

[kotton05]

http://static-imgs-acf.hereisthecity.com/20110721/87/the_truth_is_out_there_17854.jpg

[radditsu]

Yall motherfuckers immersed

[Rellapse35]

It is lulzy people still posting their kills on a forum after the expansion has been out for like 5 years.

[Heebo]

It is lulzy people posting kills that aren't theirs on a forum after the expansion has been out for like 5 years.

[Zeelot]

It properly read TMO yesterday beside Talendor kill. I wonder if they decided to falsify the list yesterday and change it for some reason :p

[doraf]

It properly read TMO yesterday beside Talendor kill. I wonder if they decided to falsify the list yesterday and change it for some reason :p

The Talendor kill is still pending a GM ruling. FE is currently holding the loot.

[Sun Nov 03 12:03:45 2013] Bashyr tells the guild, 'Runed Bolster Belt Cloak of Flames Red Dragon Scales Spell: Tunare`s Request '
[Sun Nov 03 12:04:12 2013] Bashyr tells the guild, 'Spell: Bane of Nife Spell: Greater Vocaration: Water Spell: Enforced Reverence '

loot pending GM decision

[Zeelot]

A TMO officer has the loot and linked me last night. Nice try tho!

[Heebo]

lol, "impartial" IB/FE run board spreading lies 1 week after creation. This is why we can't have nice things.

[doraf]

A TMO officer has the loot and linked me last night. Nice try tho!

Hey dude, I'm not Alarti. There is no spin going on. Last I heard yesterday evening was that a GM had not given a ruling yet. If you heard different and it's been validated, then congrats!

[Cecily]

I'd love to hear the FE/IB side of the story which lead to you guys thinking it was your kill.

[doraf]

I'd love to hear the FE/IB side of the story which lead to you guys thinking it was your kill.

I'd love to know how you guys can still afford GM's and rent with less epics to sell lately.

[Versus]

I'd love to know how you guys can still afford GM's and rent with less epics to sell lately.

this guy

[Tanthallas]

I'd love to hear the FE/IB side of the story which lead to you guys thinking it was your kill.

How Talendor is supposed to be pulled:

http://i.imgur.com/NdiZhpP.jpg

How TMO pulls Talendor:

http://i.imgur.com/PH17M5g.jpg

[quido]

I'd love to know how you guys can still afford GM's and rent with less epics to sell lately.

Says the guy who has Armani as an officer in his guild.

[quido]

Realistic and status quo Talendor pull looks about like this:

http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/realtalpull.jpg

[doraf]

Says the guy who has Armani as an officer in his guild.

I'm a bit slow I guess. who is Armani?

[quido]

Banned RMTer (both servers), notorious EC gouger, general dumbfuck.

[Tanthallas]

But who is he?

[Rellapse35]

How Talendor is supposed to be pulled:

http://i.imgur.com/NdiZhpP.jpg

How TMO pulls Talendor:

http://i.imgur.com/PH17M5g.jpg

lol I remember a similar map being drawn for Tmo back in the day for Sev

I forget what their bards excuse was the dude from peace pipe but shit was classic

[Ektar]

he got lost

[Cecily]

Yeah that one was much funnier :(

[Tanthallas]

It wasnt a joke

[doraf]

My favorite was Talenos's 20 min drunken Sev pull through EJ.

[Godefroi]

there is a shit load of map drawing Itt

someone call Perun

[IndianaJones]

Where was TMO set up for this Talendor?

[Alarti0001]

How Talendor is supposed to be pulled:



How TMO pulls Talendor:



How TMO pulls Talendor
http://i.imgur.com/IxVDXgn.jpg

How FE pulled last Talendor

http://i.imgur.com/NXmTBpL.jpg

Hypocracy

[Cecily]

Board's looking pretty red guys. Add TMO for Silverwing 11/4. Winter is coming.

[Alarti0001]

Board's looking pretty red guys. Add TMO for Silverwing 11/4. Winter is coming.

Taken killed Silverwing

[IndianaJones]

So honestly, who really cares about Talendor. But this is the exact route taken by TMOs puller from someone who was following him the whole way. The light green line would be a hypothetical option B for the TMO puller after he makes a U turn in the corner for some reason.

There is really no reason to make the turn like that. Once you begin to pull the mob away from the direction of the camp it is considered a kite. Pulling north then east along the walls is fine, but you cannot make a U turn and start going diagonally into the zone like that. If you moved camps mind pull, it is still kiting.

Maybe you say "I wanna be nice and not pull through another raid?" Nah, if you got FTE its your dragon, fuck the other raid and its their problem for being in your way.

Anyways judge for yourselves.


http://i43.tinypic.com/2vj9947.jpg

[Cecily]

fuck the other raid and its their problem for being in your way.

[Hitpoint]

[Sun Nov 03 14:50:35 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:35 2013] ---------------------------
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:35 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Doccuz <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:35 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Deca <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:35 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Cory
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:35 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Ingramic <The Mystical Order>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:35 2013] There are 4 players in Skyfire Mountains.
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:40 2013] You think you are heading SouthEast.
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:45 2013] You no longer have a target.
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:50 2013] Talendor shouts 'How amusing. You foolish mortals actually think to challenge me? Very well, then, I shall enjoy searing the flesh from your bones!'
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:50 2013] Talendor engages Ldsk!
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] ---------------------------
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Pableau <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Sequoya <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Corova <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Helicopter <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Planarity <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Rylas <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Fresus <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Icewell <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Franswa <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bigo
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Rapper
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Hitpoint <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] There are 12 players in Skyfire Mountains.

9 minutes later...this is exactly when we took him

[Sun Nov 03 14:59:22 2013] Your flesh is seared from your bones. You have taken 500 points of damage.
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:23 2013] Talendor's casting is interrupted!
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:23 2013] Talendor's casting is interrupted!
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:24 2013] Talendor's casting is interrupted!
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:25 2013] Talendor's casting is interrupted!
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:30 2013] Talendor's casting is interrupted!
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:30 2013] Talendor's casting is interrupted!
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:31 2013] Talendor's casting is interrupted!
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:35 2013] You are no longer afraid.
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:35 2013] You have control of yourself again.
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:36 2013] Talendor scowls at you, ready to attack -- looks like quite a gamble.
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:37 2013] Targeted (NPC): Talendor
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:37 2013] Right click on the NPC to consider it.
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:41 2013] Targeted (NPC): Talendor
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:41 2013] Right click on the NPC to consider it.
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:43 2013] Pableau tells the guild, 'wtb GRM for wizard grp'
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:43 2013] You gather shadows about you.
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:48 2013] Helicopter tells the guild, 'It's been 7 minutes'
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:50 2013] Your shadows fade.
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:50 2013] You gather shadows about you.
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:55 2013] Targeted (NPC): Talendor
[Sun Nov 03 14:59:55 2013] Right click on the NPC to consider it.
[Sun Nov 03 15:00:03 2013] Helicopter tells the guild, 'I just hope somebody petitioned before we peeled it'


This is not us engaging Talendor. This is just when we tagged him off TMO's kite, exactly where the guy above has it marked on his map. Can you explain to me how it's possible that it takes 9 minutes to get from his spot east of VP, to the spot where we tagged off your puller north west of OT ramp? Your pullers were running him everywhere except to your camp. When we tagged it was facing away from your camp. We spotted him up, mobilized faster than you, and killed the dragon. But you gambled on a GM decision and won, grats on the crappy loot.

[kotton05]

batphoning silvering and being happy bout talendor how cute, guess what ever makes ya happy. how was wiping to gore? and watchin track die?

[Alarti0001]

This is not us engaging Talendor. This is just when we tagged him off TMO's kite, exactly where the guy above has it marked on his map. Can you explain to me how it's possible that it takes 9 minutes to get from his spot east of VP, to the spot where we tagged off your puller north west of OT ramp? Your pullers were running him everywhere except to your camp. When we tagged it was facing away from your camp. We spotted him up, mobilized faster than you, and killed the dragon. But you gambled on a GM decision and won, grats on the crappy loot.

Yes LDSK wasn't the FTE ... you left some stuff out.. like LDSK getting charmed... your puller dying and then the new FTE on Borsalino

[Hitpoint]

Yes LDSK wasn't the FTE ... you left some stuff out.. like LDSK getting charmed... your puller dying and then the new FTE on Borsalino

You are right, here's the rest of it then. Continuing right where the first log left off and editing out irrelevant stuff.

[Sun Nov 03 14:50:50 2013] Talendor engages Ldsk!
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] ---------------------------
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Pableau <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Sequoya <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Corova <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Helicopter <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Planarity <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Rylas <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Fresus <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Icewell <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Franswa <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bigo
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Rapper
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Hitpoint <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] There are 12 players in Skyfire Mountains.
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:56 2013] Helicopter tells the guild, 'Ldsk'
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:59 2013] Talendor shouts 'How amusing. You foolish mortals actually think to challenge me? Very well, then, I shall enjoy searing the flesh from your bones!'
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:59 2013] Talendor engages Icewell!

[Sun Nov 03 14:51:36 2013] Helicopter tells the guild, 'Good, then they hafta repark'
[Sun Nov 03 14:51:53 2013] Planarity tells the guild, 'someone give me loc please of camp'
[Sun Nov 03 14:51:56 2013] Talendor shouts 'How amusing. You foolish mortals actually think to challenge me? Very well, then, I shall enjoy searing the flesh from your bones!'
[Sun Nov 03 14:51:56 2013] Talendor engages Deca!

[Sun Nov 03 14:52:37 2013] Talendor shouts 'How amusing. You foolish mortals actually think to challenge me? Very well, then, I shall enjoy searing the flesh from your bones!'
[Sun Nov 03 14:52:37 2013] Talendor engages Borsalino!
[Sun Nov 03 14:52:40 2013] Your shadows fade.

That's still 7 minutes from the last person who had FTE on him. And I'm pretty sure all of these engaged were instantaneous after the previous puller died. So they are a little irrelevant to my point anyway. Anyone who got FTE should have been running to the same place, no reason for Talendor to have to backtrack or for the pull to take any longer.

[Alarti0001]

You are right, here's the rest of it then. Continuing right where the first log left off and editing out irrelevant stuff.

[Sun Nov 03 14:50:50 2013] Talendor engages Ldsk!
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] ---------------------------
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Pableau <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Sequoya <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Corova <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Helicopter <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Planarity <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Rylas <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Fresus <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Icewell <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Franswa <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bigo
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Rapper
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Hitpoint <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] There are 12 players in Skyfire Mountains.
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:56 2013] Helicopter tells the guild, 'Ldsk'
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:59 2013] Talendor shouts 'How amusing. You foolish mortals actually think to challenge me? Very well, then, I shall enjoy searing the flesh from your bones!'
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:59 2013] Talendor engages Icewell!

[Sun Nov 03 14:51:36 2013] Helicopter tells the guild, 'Good, then they hafta repark'
[Sun Nov 03 14:51:53 2013] Planarity tells the guild, 'someone give me loc please of camp'
[Sun Nov 03 14:51:56 2013] Talendor shouts 'How amusing. You foolish mortals actually think to challenge me? Very well, then, I shall enjoy searing the flesh from your bones!'
[Sun Nov 03 14:51:56 2013] Talendor engages Deca!

[Sun Nov 03 14:52:37 2013] Talendor shouts 'How amusing. You foolish mortals actually think to challenge me? Very well, then, I shall enjoy searing the flesh from your bones!'
[Sun Nov 03 14:52:37 2013] Talendor engages Borsalino!
[Sun Nov 03 14:52:40 2013] Your shadows fade.

That's still 7 minutes from the last person who had FTE on him. And I'm pretty sure all of these engaged were instantaneous after the previous puller died. So they are a little irrelevant to my point anyway. Anyone who got FTE should have been running to the same place, no reason for Talendor to have to backtrack or for the pull to take any longer.

real issue is
why are you crying so hard wehn icewell had fte before borsalino.....sorry your puller died...blame tmo

[Heebo]

You are right, here's the rest of it then. Continuing right where the first log left off and editing out irrelevant stuff.

[Sun Nov 03 14:50:50 2013] Talendor engages Ldsk!
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] ---------------------------
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Pableau <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Sequoya <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Corova <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Helicopter <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Planarity <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Rylas <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Fresus <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Icewell <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Franswa <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bigo
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Rapper
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Hitpoint <Forceful Entry>
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:52 2013] There are 12 players in Skyfire Mountains.
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:56 2013] Helicopter tells the guild, 'Ldsk'
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:59 2013] Talendor shouts 'How amusing. You foolish mortals actually think to challenge me? Very well, then, I shall enjoy searing the flesh from your bones!'
[Sun Nov 03 14:50:59 2013] Talendor engages Icewell!

[Sun Nov 03 14:51:36 2013] Helicopter tells the guild, 'Good, then they hafta repark'
[Sun Nov 03 14:51:53 2013] Planarity tells the guild, 'someone give me loc please of camp'
[Sun Nov 03 14:51:56 2013] Talendor shouts 'How amusing. You foolish mortals actually think to challenge me? Very well, then, I shall enjoy searing the flesh from your bones!'
[Sun Nov 03 14:51:56 2013] Talendor engages Deca!

[Sun Nov 03 14:52:37 2013] Talendor shouts 'How amusing. You foolish mortals actually think to challenge me? Very well, then, I shall enjoy searing the flesh from your bones!'
[Sun Nov 03 14:52:37 2013] Talendor engages Borsalino!
[Sun Nov 03 14:52:40 2013] Your shadows fade.

That's still 7 minutes from the last person who had FTE on him. And I'm pretty sure all of these engaged were instantaneous after the previous puller died. So they are a little irrelevant to my point anyway. Anyone who got FTE should have been running to the same place, no reason for Talendor to have to backtrack or for the pull to take any longer.

How long do you think the pull should take? Also please give us a time limit on pulls for each dragon so we know when it's acceptable to jump in and duck with another guild's pull.

[cs616]

So can we get an official GM confirmation that 9 minute Talendor pulls are kosher? No idea how you can pull something for that long and not have it be considered a kite. You can pull Fayd in less than 9 minutes, and that pull is easily twice as long even if you're following SF zone walls.

[Hitpoint]

Not sure if you're trolling right now. I know why Icewell died, but I'm not sure if you do. GM is looking into that right now also.

[Alarti0001]

So can we get an official GM confirmation that 9 minute Talendor pulls are kosher? No idea how you can pull something for that long and not have it be considered a kite. You can pull Fayd in less than 9 minutes, and that pull is easily twice as long even if you're following SF zone walls.

You mean 7 mins pull?

[Alarti0001]

Not sure if you're trolling right now. I know why Icewell died, but I'm not sure if you do. GM is looking into that right now also.

Mmmmhmmmm.... Icewell died because.... oops he fucked up. I know its really hard for you guys to admit when you fuck up its always some conspiracy.

[feanan]

Bottom line, if you are going to say you are the bestest most elite guild on the server, a 7 or 9 min pull in that zone is bullshit.

just admit it, it was a kite

[xmonkx]

batphoning silvering and being happy bout talendor how cute, guess what ever makes ya happy. how was wiping to gore? and watchin track die?

How was failing to get into the Military?

[Hitpoint]

[Mon Nov 04 16:05:05 2013] You say, 'I'm at vp door now, going to run along pull path, not even going to run a straight line, i'm going to be close to the zone wall the whole way'
[Mon Nov 04 16:05:07 2013] Your shadows fade.
[Mon Nov 04 16:05:07 2013] You gather shadows about you.
[Mon Nov 04 16:05:15 2013] You say, 'ok going'
[Mon Nov 04 16:05:24 2013] a guardian wurm regards you indifferently -- looks like quite a gamble.
[Mon Nov 04 16:05:29 2013] You think you are heading NorthEast.
[Mon Nov 04 16:05:49 2013] You think you are heading East.
[Mon Nov 04 16:05:58 2013] You say, 'going directly east from vp door now'
[Mon Nov 04 16:05:59 2013] Your Location is 2788.01, 1367.63, -120.26

[Mon Nov 04 16:06:31 2013] You say, 'just went a bit north to see zone wall'
[Mon Nov 04 16:06:33 2013] Your Location is 3499.31, 171.09, -167.33

[Mon Nov 04 16:07:15 2013] You think you are heading SouthEast.
[Mon Nov 04 16:07:23 2013] You say, 'i see dragon statue now'
[Mon Nov 04 16:07:24 2013] Your Location is 2826.80, -2038.57, -28.33

[Mon Nov 04 16:07:54 2013] You say, 'i'm close to east zone wall turning south now'
[Mon Nov 04 16:07:55 2013] Your Location is 1982.28, -3149.12, -9.58

[Mon Nov 04 16:09:07 2013] You say, 'now im standing on ot ramp'
[Mon Nov 04 16:09:08 2013] Your Location is -1143.50, -3870.18, 27.01
[Mon Nov 04 16:09:14 2013] You say, 'fin~'

Exactly 4 minutes to run this pull shown on the map. I didn't go as close to the statue as this map shows but pretty close to it.


http://i.imgur.com/NXmTBpL.jpg


Keep in mind we tagged it off your puller at 9 mins (7 since last fte), and it still wasn't close to your camp, and facing away from it. Maybe your pullers wouldn't be getting killed if they weren't busy running the dragon in circles. And to answer your question Heebo about when it's acceptable to take another guilds pull, we decided it was time to pull it when your puller turned and took it away from camp again.

[Hitpoint]

We tagged it when it was still north of that small lava pool I'm pretty sure...

[Cecily]

If you're gonna go all forensic on dragon kills in the future, make a new thread please.

[Hitpoint]

If you're gonna go all forensic on dragon kills in the future, make a new thread please.

This is RNF I can do whatever the fuck I want.

[Godefroi]

1) TMO kited - forbidden

2) FE/IB Peeled off (because #1 is forbbiden) - forbidden

3) If Sirken had told FE/IB to keep the loot, it's an open door to peeling pulls off and a tremendous amount of QQ and petitions (like it was before FTE zone calls), so TMO got awarded the kill.

both guilds have done something forbidden, get over it, this is a wild wild west server, + the trannies.

[radditsu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sarYH0z948

[doraf]

So it is legit to kite dragons now?

[quido]

Those logs prove nothing. Show us a fraps or a series of screenshots showing the dragon being kited or shut up. If the pull took too long, I contend it is because FB mads were trying to mess with the pull.

[Fael]

This whole justification for sniping absent direct proof of a kite is weak.

Honor the FTE. We honor yours, even as we bitch in OOC about your pulls taking way long on many occasions.

We can both compete and be good sports at it.


Dolic

[Alarti0001]

[Mon Nov 04 16:05:05 2013] You say, 'I'm at vp door now, going to run along pull path, not even going to run a straight line, i'm going to be close to the zone wall the whole way'
[Mon Nov 04 16:05:07 2013] Your shadows fade.
[Mon Nov 04 16:05:07 2013] You gather shadows about you.
[Mon Nov 04 16:05:15 2013] You say, 'ok going'
[Mon Nov 04 16:05:24 2013] a guardian wurm regards you indifferently -- looks like quite a gamble.
[Mon Nov 04 16:05:29 2013] You think you are heading NorthEast.
[Mon Nov 04 16:05:49 2013] You think you are heading East.
[Mon Nov 04 16:05:58 2013] You say, 'going directly east from vp door now'
[Mon Nov 04 16:05:59 2013] Your Location is 2788.01, 1367.63, -120.26

[Mon Nov 04 16:06:31 2013] You say, 'just went a bit north to see zone wall'
[Mon Nov 04 16:06:33 2013] Your Location is 3499.31, 171.09, -167.33

[Mon Nov 04 16:07:15 2013] You think you are heading SouthEast.
[Mon Nov 04 16:07:23 2013] You say, 'i see dragon statue now'
[Mon Nov 04 16:07:24 2013] Your Location is 2826.80, -2038.57, -28.33

[Mon Nov 04 16:07:54 2013] You say, 'i'm close to east zone wall turning south now'
[Mon Nov 04 16:07:55 2013] Your Location is 1982.28, -3149.12, -9.58

[Mon Nov 04 16:09:07 2013] You say, 'now im standing on ot ramp'
[Mon Nov 04 16:09:08 2013] Your Location is -1143.50, -3870.18, 27.01
[Mon Nov 04 16:09:14 2013] You say, 'fin~'

Exactly 4 minutes to run this pull shown on the map. I didn't go as close to the statue as this map shows but pretty close to it.



Keep in mind we tagged it off your puller at 9 mins (7 since last fte), and it still wasn't close to your camp, and facing away from it. Maybe your pullers wouldn't be getting killed if they weren't busy running the dragon in circles. And to answer your question Heebo about when it's acceptable to take another guilds pull, we decided it was time to pull it when your puller turned and took it away from camp again.

Does Talendor have SoW? God you are so bad!

[Tanthallas]

Regardless of intent, this is clearly a kite.

A major problem with how things are handled is adding subjective elements like intent. A time standard should be agreed upon and enforced.

[Hitpoint]

You're right, it proves nothing. Still interesting though.

[radditsu]

Regardless of intent, this is clearly a kite.

A major problem with how things are handled is adding subjective elements like intent. A time standard should be agreed upon and enforced.

Dude it is already stated that you pull shit directly to the camp, and if you don't know how, you shouldn't pull.

It's all the same bullshit they always do and its just sad and boring.

[Alarti0001]

Regardless of intent, this is clearly a kite.

A major problem with how things are handled is adding subjective elements like intent. A time standard should be agreed upon and enforced.

No this is a kite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdKpxLpVL2A

http://i.imgur.com/wwuTRU8.jpg

I seem to remember rogean ruled this as a non kite tho. LOL you didn't complain much about this one.

[Tanthallas]

This whole justification for sniping absent direct proof of a kite is weak.

Honor the FTE. We honor yours, even as we bitch in OOC about your pulls taking way long on many occasions.

We can both compete and be good sports at it.


Dolic

Dolic,

This argument has shaky foundations. If your pull was 12 minutes, or 15 minutes, would you still say honor the FTE shout?

The FTE shout has nothing to do with kiting; it was implemented for gaggle fuck contested encounters like VS, Trak, CT, etc. To the extent that a mob is engaged, the FTE should loses its relevance in considering the time-frame necessary or required for this mob to be taken to camp.

[maverixdamighty]

No this is a kite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdKpxLpVL2A

http://i.imgur.com/wwuTRU8.jpg

I seem to remember rogean ruled this as a non kite tho. LOL you didn't complain much about this one.

sun was not up.

[Alarti0001]

Dolic,

This argument has shaky foundations. If your pull was 12 minutes, or 15 minutes, would you still say honor the FTE shout?

The FTE shout has nothing to do with kiting; it was implemented for gaggle fuck contested encounters like VS, Trak, CT, etc. To the extent that a mob is engaged, the FTE should loses its relevance in considering the time-frame necessary or required for this mob to be taken to camp.

Yes you honor the FTE shout, and you run Fraps. Also, Derubael was in zone during this pull. Derp

[kotton05]

How TMO pulls Talendor
http://i.imgur.com/IxVDXgn.jpg

How FE pulled last Talendor

http://i.imgur.com/NXmTBpL.jpg

Hypocracy

I followed a path east and south taking exactly 1 min 12 secs faster than the pull you had last when zee pulled it. This current pull was a big LOL taking 9 mins hahah tops should be 3 mins. Nt gg

[Hitpoint]

I never said the dragon should have been there in 4 mins. The puller should have been. But he wasn't even in your camp since we tagged Tal when he was facing south west. Plus even as slow as Tal is, he should have been further than that.

[kotton05]

Dude it is already stated that you pull shit directly to the camp, and if you don't know how, you shouldn't pull.

It's all the same bullshit they always do and its just sad and boring.

^ even when we take direct pulls it's still a kite, then TMO desperately needs to kite to get to Zerg numbers ... Smh

[Tanthallas]

No this is a kite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdKpxLpVL2A

http://i.imgur.com/wwuTRU8.jpg

I seem to remember rogean ruled this as a non kite tho. LOL you didn't complain much about this one.

This was dealt with and FE got the loot back; the bard suspended for this was unsuspended. I still have the petition wherein Ephi initially suspended my bard and took the loot only to have Sirken overrule this and unsuspend my bard and return the loot. I can post the results, but I would prefer to have GM permission before doing this.

The reason this was ruled a non-kite was:

1. You did not have a sufficient force in zone to claim that you were ready to engage and we did;
2. It was still, regardless of path, within a perfectly reasonable time frame.

In the Talendor instance here:

1. You did not have a sufficient force in zone engage and we did;
2. It was outside of a reasonable timeframe.

[Tanthallas]

sun was not up.

Couldnt see the moss on the trees.

[kotton05]

Not sure if you're trolling right now. I know why Icewell died, but I'm not sure if you do. GM is looking into that right now also.

Most are not informed to this reason...

[Alarti0001]

I never said the dragon should have been there in 4 mins. The puller should have been. But he wasn't even in your camp since we tagged Tal when he was facing south west. Plus even as slow as Tal is, he should have been further than that.

Borsalino was in camp long before Tal was tagged by you.

[Alarti0001]

This was dealt with and FE got the loot back; the bard suspended for this was unsuspended. I still have the petition wherein Ephi initially suspended my bard and took the loot only to have Sirken overrule this and unsuspend my bard and return the loot. I can post the results, but I would prefer to have GM permission before doing this.

The reason this was ruled a non-kite was:

1. You did not have a sufficient force in zone to claim that you were ready to engage and we did;
2. It was still, regardless of path, within a perfectly reasonable time frame.

In the Talendor instance here:

1. You did not have a sufficient force in zone engage and we did;
2. It was outside of a reasonable timeframe.

Lol was 15man ready to engage rule active then... NOPE !


Talendor
1. Incorrect
2. Incorrect :)

Your own boy hitpoint agrees tal is slow and takes more than 4 mins to get to camp.

Messaging fail. Try again!

[kotton05]

Quit crying and quit afk tracking. Why must TMO raid interfere on our pulls, is this a final desperation attempt....

[Tanthallas]

Prove it

[Hitpoint]

Lol was 15man ready to engage rule active then... NOPE !


Talendor
1. Incorrect
2. Incorrect :)

Your own boy hitpoint agrees tal is slow and takes more than 4 mins to get to camp.

Messaging fail. Try again!

A puller can easily get to the SF ramp in 4 minutes, while following close to the zone wall. That's all that I've said. If tal is following someone taking this path, then it will definitely take longer. If the pull is direct then I have no idea how long it would take. The "TMO's pull" map that you posted could very well take 4 mins.

[Alarti0001]

Quit crying and quit afk tracking. Why must TMO raid interfere on our pulls, is this a final desperation attempt....

FE rage is building. Love it !

[IndianaJones]

Regardless of intent, this is clearly a kite.

A major problem with how things are handled is adding subjective elements like intent. A time standard should be agreed upon and enforced.

There is no intent, only actions. As I showed in this case, the mob was pulled to NE corner then made a U-Turn. There is no situation where making this turn is correct.

Maybe TMO want to pull it to the center of the zone then was going to pull it to OT? but that doesn't make sense as it would just be delaying the time to engage.

They only had 2-3 mobs + Talendor, so there was no need to make some crazy split.

In this case there are only three options.

1) I am just lying about everything
2) They tried to delay the engage (Kite)
3) They got lost or moved camps, which I attest would still be a Kite by way of ignorance.

I have no idea what happened before with all the FTE/LDSK crap. The amount of time on the pull matters, but I wouldn't care if you were making your way to the camp with the dragon. I absolutely won't be sitting there with a stop watch counting seconds, but you can tell from the pull path that it is a clear delay.

All I saw was a puller going in one direction then making a U-turn and start pulling in a bizarre direction. A change in direction such as this has no purpose and provides clear proof of a delay to engage, either intentional or by accident.

Ruling this type of pull as acceptable sets, yet again, a bad precedent that will lead to more confusion and tomfoolery.

[Alarti0001]

A puller can easily get to the SF ramp in 4 minutes, while following close to the zone wall. That's all that I've said. If tal is following someone taking this path, then it will definitely take longer. If the pull is direct then I have no idea how long it would take. The "TMO's pull" map that you posted could very well take 4 mins.

Yet you were debating about how long the dragon took to get to camp. I agree a puller COULD get from spawn to camp in 4 mins. The dragon will not. 7 mins is more than reasonable for a pull
Someone confirm SoW speed increase. Is it 55%? If so wouldnt it be reasonable for the pull to take 55% longer? 4 mins + 50% = 6 mins add in some variance... voila 7 mins.

Case closed :)

[maverixdamighty]

Lol was 15man ready to engage rule active then... NOPE !


Talendor
1. Incorrect
2. Incorrect :)

Your own boy hitpoint agrees tal is slow and takes more than 4 mins to get to camp.

Messaging fail. Try again!

if i remember this one correctly your own fraps showed you guys had 5 in zone with shit chars. was self incriminating that you guys had no beef regardless.

[sanforce]

FB

Oh i see what you did there. So FE wears the pants?

[Hitpoint]

Yet you were debating about how long the dragon took to get to camp. I agree a puller COULD get from spawn to camp in 4 mins. The dragon will not. 7 mins is more than reasonable for a pull
Someone confirm SoW speed increase. Is it 55%? If so wouldnt it be reasonable for the pull to take 55% longer? 4 mins + 50% = 6 mins add in some variance... voila 7 mins.

Case closed :)

Except the dragon wasn't in your camp, or close to it. The pull started at 9 minutes. And I don't know why we're adding a whole minute of variance for a pull in which variance was already accounted for (me following zone wall).

[kotton05]

can you plz explain how a tal pull can take longer than a fay pull...

[maverixdamighty]

can you plz explain how a tal pull can take longer than a fay pull...

night time and no sense heading skill and new puller.

[sanforce]

Quit crying and quit afk tracking. Why must TMO raid interfere on our pulls, is this a final desperation attempt....

www.whokilledit.com

tmo seems to be doing just fine

[doraf]

Was TMO an Asian guild on live? We had two Asian guilds on Rodcet Nife. Arirang and Eastern Keep with similar tacitcs. Bind and naked rush or kite/train whatever until they had an unimaginable zerg. The only thing they were good for were laughs and RnF's.

[Alarti0001]

Was TMO an Asian guild on live? We had two Asian guilds on Rodcet Nife. Arirang and Eastern Keep with similar tacitcs. Bind and naked rush or kite/train whatever until they had an unimaginable zerg. The only thing they were good for were laughs and RnF's.

As opposed to poopsocking and whining?

[Funkutron5000]

can you plz explain how a tal pull can take longer than a fay pull...

I can! Maybe do a few laps around VP. Pull it in the opposite direction of your raid for a few minutes, then do a sudden u-turn to get it headed back to your raid.