An uncommon (sarcasm) conundrum

[Aerar]

I have just started on this server and have 2 characters of whom I like equally.

My issues is lvl 50+ usefullness (as that is my plan)

My 2 classes are Necro (gnome) lvl 12 and Warrior (halfling) lvl 6

Now I know tanks are always needed but I also wanted to see if there was a positive argument to be made for the necro as I have such fun playing it.

I dont want to simply be a mana battery.

Thanks!

[Vohl]

The two classes with consistent demand in endgame raids are rogues and wizards. If you aren't one of those, you can probably still have a lot of fun. If you're concerned about raid utility, talk to your guild.

Necros can do reliable dabage with little cleric attention needed due to lifetaps. Warriors can tank and do half-decent DPS.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

I have just started on this server and have 2 characters of whom I like equally.

My issues is lvl 50+ usefullness (as that is my plan)

My 2 classes are Necro (gnome) lvl 12 and Warrior (halfling) lvl 6

Now I know tanks are always needed but I also wanted to see if there was a positive argument to be made for the necro as I have such fun playing it.

I dont want to simply be a mana battery.

Thanks!

Here is the thing about raiding and usefulness in the end game - nearly every class in a large raid is relegated to doing 1 thing repeteively. Warriors (unless MT) mash the enemy, Rogues attack and backstab, Necros give mana and send their pets in etc... There might be more situational intricacies involved with how you get there but you WILL be assigned a role and expected to carry it out for the duration.

Now that that is out of the way, consider your playstyle and the time available to you. You've chosen two classes that are completely different from eachother with one requiring groups and the other being the benchmark soloing class - this is all on personal perference at this point. Admittedly I am biased towards Necro due to their power at later levels but you have to play what you like otherwise you WILL regret it.

The main point is to enjoy the journey which you can do with both classes equally.

[Champion_Standing]

Play the class that you have more fun with. You'll burn yourself out playing a class you don't like just to be more "useful".

[webrunner5]

Why does everyone who has a Warrior think they are even going to be the Main Raid Tank or even the fifth?? Ain't happening. Unless you start your own guild and be the MT you are shit out of luck. End of story. Play your Necro and be happy.

[Aerar]

I actually didnt say raid, I have no illusions that I will be a MT people here have a 3 year head start on me, but end game is not all raiding and 50+ there is a lot of content to be farmed by groups

[Aerar]

My point is more simply 50+ id like to not have a massive problem getting in groups

[Laugher]

Another couple benefits to the necro is fd capability and (currently) the prenerf cos, you have a bit more ability to survive/evade aggro

not to mention the soloing aspect, imo casters are fun because they are more versatile, and in the case of a necro you get alot of capabilities* as opposed to just being a tank (dots, mana battery, pet, fd, undead slows, necro ghetto mez, fear)

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

My point is more simply 50+ id like to not have a massive problem getting in groups

My apologies - I thought your mana battery comment was implying a boring raid scene.

Necros are hella fun and have excellent grouping capabilities but do not forget that the grand majority of your spells (with the exception of life and mana dealing spells) are for your own personal gain. The only real thing that "stacks" in the game is DPS so for what its worth, you will either be DPSing or giving life/mana away to bump your healing/dps needs to max.

Again, if you like the class then stick with it. You will get burned out by 54 on a class you don't like.

[skipdog]

Just remember that the journey to max level is extremely long compared to most MMO's and for most people, it will be the majority of their playing time.

Don't get concerned about which classes are needed at 50+. Play what you find the most fun!

[Retti_]

Not really

[fishingme]

Why does everyone who has a Warrior think they are even going to be the Main Raid Tank or even the fifth?? Ain't happening. Unless you start your own guild and be the MT you are shit out of luck. End of story. Play your Necro and be happy.

I ended up being MT/OT in a raiding guild here after starting a warrior.

[Spacebar]

Also, if you are just starting, I feel that necro gear is much cheaper than warrior gear and will be better for farming a warrior alt later.

Necros have so much awesome utility. There have been times where healers were low in KC, and I'd just tank on my monk with a necro healing me and some bard/chanter slows and maybe some bard regen. Of course, that's not the ideal role, and certainly not something you'd be doing in 99% of situations. They are great at farming nice items in higher levels and good for soloing in the downtime when you can't find a group (unlike warriors, which, unless you have some really good gear, probably can't solo much at all).

Main point is, necros are a good class for people starting out.

[webrunner5]

Something to think about very few new people know is at level 54 1/2 you are only 50% of the kills you need to get to level 60. It is a ASS BUSTER to get to the top after that. :eek:

So, pick a class you really like or you will not be a happy camper in the long run.

[Brut]

I dont want to simply be a mana battery.
Personally have noticed that huge majority of high end necros on server seem to be under impression that being a mana battery is not in their line of duties whatsoever and would prefer instead to scamper around zones scouting and pulling and crap. Trying to get twitches is like pulling teeth.

[Alorae]

A good necro who maximizes their class' utilities is always a pleasure to group with. If you do that you will become known as a good necro and find yourself in demand. Example of bad necros are those who /petattack and afk, or those who are "just mana batteries".

[Aerar]

Honestly, if I could get in a raiding guild I would mana battery for a raid boss. But for high lvl grouping like 55-60 I want to actually do some killing.

[Crede]

My advice to you would be level necro up first. Farm yourself a lot of PP. Then twink warrior out.

[Malone88]

My advice to you would be level necro up first. Farm yourself a lot of PP. Then twink warrior out.
^^^ this ^^^

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[uygi]

And do the world a favor, don't make a halfling...

[BillyCranston]

If a high, or any, level group gets a necro just for feeding mana, that's a horribly played group.

[Andervin]

If a high, or any, level group gets a necro just for feeding mana, that's a horribly played group.

QFT, it'd be like adding an enchanter just for crack. :confused:

[myxomatosii]

Play the class that you have more fun with. You'll burn yourself out playing a class you don't like just to be more "useful".

My monk (see sig) resents that statement.

Why does everyone who has a Warrior think they are even going to be the Main Raid Tank or even the fifth?? Ain't happening. Unless you start your own guild and be the MT you are shit out of luck. End of story. Play your Necro and be happy.

From the various raid guilds I've been in, all it takes is reliability and a little patience and you can flag yourself as an alternate. Before long people flake and you'll find yourself in the #1 position. Reliability is key, being raid MT isn't a pipe dream imo.

My point is more simply 50+ id like to not have a massive problem getting in groups

Neither warrior or necro have problem getting groups. Classes that have the most problems getting groups.. sk, pal, dru. Brd if the group is exp min/maxing and doesn't realize the utility. And wiz.

Just remember that the journey to max level is extremely long compared to most MMO's and for most people, it will be the majority of their playing time.

Don't get concerned about which classes are needed at 50+. Play what you find the most fun!

^ 2nded

Also, if you are just starting, I feel that necro gear is much cheaper than warrior gear and will be better for farming a warrior alt later.

Necros have so much awesome utility. There have been times where healers were low in KC, and I'd just tank on my monk with a necro healing me and some bard/chanter slows and maybe some bard regen. Of course, that's not the ideal role, and certainly not something you'd be doing in 99% of situations. They are great at farming nice items in higher levels and good for soloing in the downtime when you can't find a group (unlike warriors, which, unless you have some really good gear, probably can't solo much at all).

Main point is, necros are a good class for people starting out.

Ah yeah, with how much stuff a "best of best" warrior needs in items alone. The cost can be quite insane. But as said, if you enjoy the class, it will come to you. Reliability and playtime is all it takes and if you enjoy your class both come naturally.

My advice to you would be level necro up first. Farm yourself a lot of PP. Then twink warrior out.

^2nded, what my brother did.

And do the world a favor, don't make a halfling...

Say that to Eabon :)

[Elements]

Either is a good choice and really if you like them both you should have hem both at 60 before long so the real question is which to take to 60 first. My first 60 toon on the server was a halfling war and I wouldnt change that if I could. Sure it was hard going at times but overcoming hardship is so much more rewarding when you do accomplish your goals. Sure necros can solo farm better but By the time my war was 60 I had hundreds of thousands of pp from levelling in groups in seb/kc/hs/freeti and doing other cash activities (like helping people with epic mobs where non epic loot is distributed to the group. Camping your own gear is usually more fun than farming for it anyway. More variety.

Warriors are used at every raid I can think of. Necros have much utility. Outside of the typical manabattery role they are also exceptionally good at getting FTE which on this server is pretty much the most important thing to end game raiding success next to camping out and tracking.

Either would be a solid first 60. Id suggest powering one to 60 before focusing on the 2nd one though.

[Relictor]

This is EQ, there's no limits on how many you can zerg a raid target with so you don't have to worry about winning a spot based on usefullness. Just play whats fun to you.