View Full Version : What changes could improve P99?
Hawala
11-05-2013, 01:20 PM
It seems like everybody wants something to change, I'm curious what kind of policy or mechanical changes everybody feels would improve the game and the community. Is there anything we can universally agree on?
Buffs, nerfs, spells, rules - anything.
Let's hear 'em!
Tenlaar
11-05-2013, 01:21 PM
New players?
Hawala
11-05-2013, 01:22 PM
New players?
Heh. It's true, in a sense I guess the game requires a constant influx of new players to properly stratify the economy.
khanable
11-05-2013, 01:24 PM
By far the biggest change we need is halfling rangers
Cecily
11-05-2013, 01:25 PM
Less suggestions from the peanut gallery?
runlvlzero
11-05-2013, 01:26 PM
new servers
Hawala
11-05-2013, 01:26 PM
Less suggestions from the peanut gallery?
There are quite a few things that are obviously broken, particularly end-game content. Putting our heads together to see if there are any changes we could agree to can't really be a bad thing.
Cecily
11-05-2013, 01:28 PM
"You know what would be really cool?" threads are pointless.
Champion_Standing
11-05-2013, 01:30 PM
"You know what would be really cool?" threads are pointless.
Because there are so many relevant and important threads going on here right?
stfu
Hawala
11-05-2013, 01:34 PM
"You know what would be really cool?" threads are pointless.
I'm not even sure what you're getting at but it doesn't seem constructive.
Tenlaar
11-05-2013, 01:38 PM
By far the biggest change we need is halfling rangers
Pshaw. Gnome SK!
indiscriminate_hater
11-05-2013, 01:39 PM
in before wipe
Thulack
11-05-2013, 01:50 PM
By far the biggest change we need is halfling rangers
+1
Aerar
11-05-2013, 02:03 PM
"You know what would be really cool?" threads are pointless.
You know what posts are even more pointless? Posts that point out how pointless a thread is.
*Yes I realize this then becomes a pointless thread.
PS, Point being that I have no point and that making points is pointless.
#morepixelsplease
Jauna
11-05-2013, 02:34 PM
A Casino in the freeport sewers. Plat is just piling up on this server and its not going anywhere, and who knows how bad its going to get when Velious gets stale, have 25, 50 and 100p tokens and have each have their own rewards
fadetree
11-05-2013, 03:28 PM
RANDOM SPAWN ZONES, LOCATIONS AND TIMES FOR ALL END GAME MOBS
multiple instances of same mobs allowed!
THERE, ALL BETTER!
not srs
fadetree
11-05-2013, 03:29 PM
Velious
srs
Elements
11-05-2013, 03:55 PM
Less entitled attitudes.
Champion_Standing
11-05-2013, 04:05 PM
Put the maps back in, enable compass, enable spell sets. Contrary to popular opinion, not having these things means less immersion.
Jauna
11-05-2013, 04:13 PM
Put the maps back in, enable compass, enable spell sets. Contrary to popular opinion, not having these things means less immersion.
But if they enable maps what will I do with my almost 13 year old graph paper maps i copied from the internet all those years ago?
And if they enabled the compass there would be no reason to look up at the clouds to see what way they move to know where I am going.. or click the compass I bought from Bubar
Kinda agree with spell sets.. then again i organize my spellbooks now on how much i use spells
Ruenaros
11-05-2013, 04:19 PM
simulated weekly maintenance day repops
This one is so far ahead of everything else in my mind it isn't even worth listing anything else at present
myriverse
11-05-2013, 04:21 PM
Cats on the moon and frogs.
Kidding... but only a bit.
theguyy
11-05-2013, 05:02 PM
Ways to improve p99 in order of importance:
1. Raiding on p99 is significantly worse then classic because at least there was a large list of servers to build your raid guild, should one dominate too convincingly. Since having more servers likely isn't feasible the next best thing is to give multiple guilds a shot at killing raid mobs, be that tokens or w/e. Don't really care how you do it but it needs to be done. The only ones that disagree with this are the ones already dominating the server with 72 hour poopsocking.
2. Get these trashy rule breakers/scammers outta here please! I'm sure if you looked for p99 rule enforcers you could find a few legitimate volunteers. As it is right now people can toss racism, train others repeatedly, use EC bait and switch tactics to steal/cheat and never get banned for it. This needs to be a priority because as it stands, once you get to the high end of the game you get more scumbag players then I've ever encountered in years of WoW.
3. Revert all class changes to classic, repeatedly screwing over pet classes while keeping chanters and shamans the same is just plain silly. Better to just keep all classes classic instead of shoddy attempts at balance.
4. Look into fixing ac. It's not useless but it offers much less benefit then it did in classic.
Spitty
11-05-2013, 05:22 PM
"You know what would be really cool?" threads are pointless.
Your posts are in the exact same category. Yet you keep posting.
I wonder what this all means.
Derubael
11-05-2013, 05:24 PM
Best custom change we could do on this server?
Iksar rogues.
sellawiz
11-05-2013, 05:37 PM
Best custom change we could do on this server?
Iksar rogues.
I always thought Iksar rangers made a lot of lore sense. I mean they are in the middle of nowhere on Kunark!
Champion_Standing
11-05-2013, 05:40 PM
I always thought Iksar rangers made a lot of lore sense. I mean they are in the middle of nowhere on Kunark!
Not lore friendly! Rangers are a "good" class only, they live in harmony with nature and smoke lots of weed.
dwightgeary
11-05-2013, 05:41 PM
i think this server is good the way it is ......... poop sock or not if you want to raid high end content .. get off your ass .. lead your group of boys and be better than TMO ....
but would like to see velious with LDoN added
theguyy
11-05-2013, 05:45 PM
i think this server is good the way it is ......... poop sock or not if you want to raid high end content .. get off your ass .. lead your group of boys and be better than TMO ....
but would like to see velious with LDoN added
What a silly comment.
Get off your ass meaning sit on top of a raid spawn for days while you minimize watching breaking bad?
You clearly have no clue what the p99 raid scene is like.
The server is in pretty good shape right now. The biggest issue seems to be endgame raiding, which I don't do, and would really have no idea how to fix.
Champion_Standing
11-05-2013, 05:49 PM
The server is in pretty good shape right now. The biggest issue seems to be endgame raiding, which I don't do, and would really have no idea how to fix.
This is why you are the perfect man for the job. I nominate Vohl to be the official P99 raid scene fixer.
dwightgeary
11-05-2013, 05:52 PM
What a silly comment.
Get off your ass meaning sit on top of a raid spawn for days while you minimize watching breaking bad?
You clearly have no clue what the p99 raid scene is like.
really? i dont know what its like ? ive been on both receiving ends of this server raid content for years .... ive answered bat phones.... ive killed every dragon on this server atleast once ... ive had the pleasure of listening to zeelots orders in vent i have the pleasure of listening to shaer yell at people in vent . ive had the pleasure of listening to sodapop's drunken rants during epic low numbers raids ... ive got a char in VP right now i can log on and just watch all the action and training as it unfolds ... so dont say i dont know what the raid scene is like because ive done it ,quit it started it back ,and quit it again it is what it is ....
Cymeon
11-05-2013, 05:53 PM
SHUT DOWN THE FORUMS.
Best thing that could happen to p99. evar.
Andervin
11-05-2013, 05:56 PM
A Casino in the freeport sewers. Plat is just piling up on this server and its not going anywhere, and who knows how bad its going to get when Velious gets stale, have 25, 50 and 100p tokens and have each have their own rewards
As someone new to the server, yes, inflation is fucking insane here. :eek: Additional money sinks might be nice.
Get rid of exp from PvP death....
Implement 1 item loot + pp.
Not sure about end games stuff though...
Wotsirb401
11-05-2013, 06:53 PM
Fix the players greediness on the server
sanforce
11-05-2013, 07:07 PM
Gnome monks of course.
Sadre Spinegnawer
11-05-2013, 07:25 PM
better implementation of the global lag spike simulator
Swish
11-06-2013, 07:14 AM
"You know what would be really cool?" threads are pointless.
So adding LDoN and frogloks, but not doing Shadows of Luclin... not going to happen? :(
myriverse
11-06-2013, 08:00 AM
SHUT DOWN THE FORUMS.
Best thing that could happen to p99. evar.
Nah. Without the outlet forums provide, all of this trash would wind up in the game.
As someone new to the server, yes, inflation is fucking insane here. :eek: Additional money sinks might be nice.
Gambling is a tax on the poor.
Dangermouse
11-06-2013, 10:47 AM
Gambling is a tax on the poor.
Or is it a tax on the gullible? :D
I agree about the money sink. I started on P99 3 years ago, before Kunark, but then took a huge break and just came back last month. The inflation is incredible, and new players who want to buy decent gear are probably doomed to a lot of plat farming.
However I suppose there is an upside, newbs can get pretty reasonable gear (by my definition) just from the generosity of others. I've never asked for anything but have been randomly given quite nice items by people who saw what ghetto shit I was wearing :D
But - how do you implement a money sink that people actually want to use? Maybe offer to sell (for plat) the consumables that high end players have to farm a lot for the raiding scene? I've no idea where (say) a DA idol comes from or how long it takes to farm them, but would people with cash in the bank be prepared to pay plat for one instead of farming?
myriverse
11-06-2013, 11:07 AM
Or is it a tax on the gullible? :D
The wealthy tend to be that way because they are not gullible. Hence, on the poor.
A casino would get rid of money, but not from the bloated area that exists.
This is why you are the perfect man for the job. I nominate Vohl to be the official P99 raid scene fixer.
Sure. I'll get right on not fixing the problem, effective immediately!
sellawiz
11-06-2013, 11:39 AM
This has always been a huge problem in MMOs. There is obviously no monitary or fiscal policy that exists, and every bit of money earned is the same as money created.
I can only think something like a tax to fund the Freeport Militia might help ;) Or maybe some kind of assistance to the poor, based on a progressive income tax.
Alternatively, some kind of money borrowing mechanism where players can take out loans, and the interest rate be set by an algorithm determined by the cost of a certain basket of goods for sale in EC.
I'm just throwing out ideas, really.
Other ideas I've heard to solve this uniquely MMO-based problem include money decay, whereby the money slowly decreases if it is not spent. This may actually be the best, due to the quirky way money is actually created.
Altair
11-06-2013, 11:50 AM
How about rewards for maxing out skills?
master sence heading = working compass
master swimming = endureing breath
master fishing = fishing pole w/ mana/health regen
master tailor = weight reduce sewing kit
just a few ideas, I'm sure others will have better.
Cecily
11-06-2013, 12:03 PM
How about not classic? That was kinda my point earlier.
Fregar
11-06-2013, 12:11 PM
"New" player here. (1 month)
I've not seen anything wrong on this server yet.
Obvious progression would be velious.
I'm not personally concerned about it, but from what I read on this forum there's a competition problem with raid mobs.
Having to compete for raid content has allways been EQ "classic"'s weak spot IMO.
I never liked it because it forces players do be no-lifers and is just bad for nerves.
Not sure about solution.
While talking about velious and competition: sleeper's awakening should be disabled ;)
In the long run, custom zones along with level cap lifting and AAs could be nice. (no luclin and POP)
Nerf donal's bp on Velious release. Not even kidding, extended Kunark caused far too many of these to enter the server, will make things way too easy + unclassic in Velious if they aren't immediately dealt with.
Melissa
11-06-2013, 12:50 PM
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=127224
this.
JerseyFresh609
11-06-2013, 01:42 PM
I wish P99 had more of a "game as it should have been" attitude then a "as classic as possible" attitude. There are changes that can be made that would still preserve the root gameplay of classic while making the game an overall better experience for everyone. Here are a few of my ideas.
Maps: Everyone is going to tab out and look them up anyway. It won't have any negative effect on game mechanics and just makes things more convenient.
Spell sets: Just handy and again won't effect the actual game mechanics. This can be argued against on red but for blue it's a no-brainer.
Hybrid penalty: Just plane stinks and is removed in Velious anyway. Would maybe encourage more players to play paladins, sks and rangers. Personally the ridiculously long grind caused me to quit playing for quite some time as a lvl 51 pally. Not to mention people discriminate against adding you to a party. People may argue that that's the price you pay for the extra flexibility of a hybrid but there are way more powerful classes then hybrids currently. If I knew the state of the game and the xp penalties when I started playing, no way was I rolling a paladin.
Some form of anti-poopsocking: Whether it be a way for capable guilds to spawn certain targets periodically or a lock out on a mob, say once every 4 spawns, that prevents the same guild from killing it until other guilds have had a shot. It's ridiculous that one can completely lock down mobs via poopsocking. Competition can be nice but sitting on a spawn for 72 hours isn't fun for anyone and I wouldn't call that a competition. Introducing something like this will only keep more players happy.
Casino: Would help get some plat out of the economy and give players a chance at some fun items. Give illusions, consumables and novelty items out so that no gameplay is effected.
Velious will obviously help out too. More raid targets + more content + more gear = more fun.
Nerf donal's bp on Velious release. Not even kidding, extended Kunark caused far too many of these to enter the server, will make things way too easy + unclassic in Velious if they aren't immediately dealt with.
god this
Melissa
11-06-2013, 02:00 PM
I wish there weren't Midnight Mallets anymore...
sellawiz
11-06-2013, 02:18 PM
Nerf donal's bp on Velious release. Not even kidding, extended Kunark caused far too many of these to enter the server, will make things way too easy + unclassic in Velious if they aren't immediately dealt with.
I totally agree
Kohedron
11-06-2013, 02:18 PM
If we were actually trying to make EQ a better game, I'd take a whole bunch of the things they have over on SoD.
Trying to play a magician on this server is impossible after playing on that server.
Unfortunately for us, we're here to relive EQ in its entirety
Hawala
11-06-2013, 02:30 PM
I wish P99 had more of a "game as it should have been" attitude then a "as classic as possible" attitude. There are changes that can be made that would still preserve the root gameplay of classic while making the game an overall better experience for everyone. Here are a few of my ideas.
There are a lot of these kinds of issues. I really despise when features (bugs) are purposely recoded to give some kind of "classic" experience.
Off the top of my head, the thing that irks me the most is how rain spells are useless, since pets eat up one wave, but obviously take no damage.
I've been told this is a "classic" mechanic, but it's obviously a bug.
EDIT:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1174981#post1174981
eqravenprince
11-06-2013, 06:37 PM
You would think that most people could answer the OP seriously, but we have 6 pages of mostly rubbish. Most of my ideas of what it would make it better would mean changing it from the "shit's classic" crowd.
I would somehow change raiding so it is accessible to everyone, not racing to a spawn point.
Melee can bind anywhere just like casters
Hybrid penalty removed
NPC in EC tunnel that will buff anyone with Sow, C2, Damage Shield so newbies can stop asking and high levels don't have to be bothered.
khanable
11-06-2013, 06:42 PM
Nerf donal's bp on Velious release. Not even kidding, extended Kunark caused far too many of these to enter the server, will make things way too easy + unclassic in Velious if they aren't immediately dealt with.
.
Derubael
11-06-2013, 06:58 PM
You would think that most people could answer the OP seriously
Iksar rogues was very srs.
ShivanAngel
11-07-2013, 01:41 AM
instanced end game raid zones...
you cant tell me sitting on a spawn for hours to days straight only to kill it in 1 minute for 3 pieces of loot is fun.
justin2090
11-07-2013, 02:36 AM
Iksar everything! I wanna be an Iksar Iksar!
And maybe more events kinda like the Halloween event but with less zone crashing. Events that would allow the top guilds to work together to achieve a common goal. Like maybe having to kill multiple targets in different zones to spawn a Guise Manastone carrying target for each of the guilds.
By far the biggest change we need is halfling rangers
this is y i no ranger here
QQ
fin
ShivanAngel
11-07-2013, 02:42 AM
Iksar everything! I wanna be an Iksar Iksar!
And maybe more events kinda like the Halloween event but with less zone crashing. Events that would allow the top guilds to work together to achieve a common goal. Like maybe having to kill multiple targets in different zones to spawn a Guise Manastone carrying target for each of the guilds.
ahahahhahahahahahhahahhahahahaha
thats hillarious
justin2090
11-07-2013, 02:55 AM
ahahahhahahahahahhahahhahahahaha
thats hillarious
You laugh but I bet they would if it meant more loot. That's what its all about after all. The loot.
Cecily
11-07-2013, 08:39 AM
No, no it's about the tears.
I'm probably odd for saying so, but the questing mechanism in p1999 is not classic. Classic would allow you to hand in coin in any denomination, totaling the amount requested by the NPC. Fire Opals could be gotten in Sol Ro Temple for 550gp, 55pp, or for 54pp + 9gp + 9sp + 10cp. Multi-questing worked on pretty much everything. I remember testing this on the bear skin quests in Qeynos Hills with a guide. What's more, the currency didn't need to be handed in all at once. In the case of the fire opals, one player could hand in 54pp, then a second player could hand in 1pp and get the fire opal reward.
Mezzmur
11-07-2013, 11:43 AM
this is y i no ranger here
QQ
fin
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