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nilbog
11-05-2013, 03:12 PM
As we near the completion of Velious, I believe it is important to note most questions will arise from the hardest to reach zones.
EQmac has a classic Plane of Mischief. It also has a classic Sleeper's Tomb. Unfortunately, the server will be closing forever on 11/18.
Anyone willing to contribute research time, please check out PoM/ST on eqmac. Turn on logs (/log on), take screenshots, fraps, and note anything of importance.
If you don't have a high level character on eqmac, but you do have time, I am sure someone would let you use a character for this purpose as they will soon be eternally derelict.
These aren't the only zones that can be researched, but as I said before, they are certainly the hardest to reach. During Velious beta, all Velious zones will be open for exploration on p99, so help if you can. If this is the last bastion of classic, I'd like for it to resemble classic as much as possible.
Any research information can be mailed to testing.p99@gmail.com
Points of interest:
Logs. /log on. This shows aggro messages, death messages, resisted spells, hit point totals, and a myriad of other useful information.
Respawn times.
Screenshots. Shows mob formations, unique attributes of npcs, etc.
Fraps/video recordings. If something is truly unique and can't be described with words, video goes a long way.
Thanks.
Ravager
11-05-2013, 03:18 PM
I know it's only been 6 minutes, but, bump!
khanable
11-05-2013, 03:19 PM
1 week sticky imo
Kohedron
11-05-2013, 03:22 PM
VELIOUS
Elements
11-05-2013, 03:24 PM
As we near completion of Velious.
Nominated most epic thread 2013.
Exotics
11-05-2013, 03:26 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d5/EverQuest_-_The_Scars_of_Velious_Coverart.png
Thulack
11-05-2013, 03:29 PM
We should really be asking these incoming people from Eqmac if there is anyone there they knows that hunted in those zones often and has logs.
fadetree
11-05-2013, 03:33 PM
RARGLEBLARG FLMMF VELIOUS!
Nominated most epic thread 2013.
I skimmed the original post, read through the comments and saw your reply with quoted text, got excited. I re-read original post, got excited again. Now I need new pants.
Read Elements posts and acquire new pants.
Champion_Standing
11-05-2013, 04:04 PM
You should never have said that about Velious, now this thread will just be full of nerdgasms.
Origin
11-05-2013, 04:11 PM
Winter is coming.
I know that some IB guys that played on EQMac have tons of logs from their run there. I'll see about getting in touch with them.
If anyone has character to lend for this, I have mac + time. Can PM me info or send tell in game to Argh.
Hastley
11-05-2013, 05:03 PM
Rellapse should have ST logs from eq Mac......
Tewaz
11-05-2013, 05:06 PM
http://planeofmischief.com/
One of the EQMac players runs this website. It is completely devoted to figuring out the plane of mischief.
Alarti0001
11-05-2013, 05:38 PM
Rellapse should have ST logs from eq Mac......
I chuckled.
Meiva
11-05-2013, 06:02 PM
http://planeofmischief.com/
One of the EQMac players runs this website. It is completely devoted to figuring out the plane of mischief.
Wow! That is so great! Never knew this existed.
Rellapse should have ST logs from eq Mac......
lold
kingsBlend
11-05-2013, 06:17 PM
Found this: http://www.eqmac.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6881
Frieza_Prexus
11-06-2013, 01:19 AM
http://i.imgur.com/5M4aYbr.png
Retti_
11-06-2013, 03:57 AM
http://troll.me/images/beavis-and-butthead-lol/boingoingoing-oingoingoingoing.jpg
Turp_SmokinPurp
11-06-2013, 05:16 AM
As we near the completion of Velious
Nice! Hope beta soon
http://static.giantbomb.com/api/image/square_avatar/1464620-iksar_male.jpg
FenninEQaddict
11-06-2013, 10:49 AM
http://planeofmischief.com/
One of the EQMac players runs this website. It is completely devoted to figuring out the plane of mischief.
Oh wow Irontaail's site lives on. I remember looking at this site back on live it was amazing as far as the info it provided. Nilbog if this hasnt been changed much by the current owners its a great source of info.
Also yes you could bind with Locket of Escape prior to a later revamp where they moved the location of the zonein to GD.
Also Nilbog would the original velious discs help at all? I still have a set id be happy to send you.
radditsu
11-06-2013, 10:53 AM
We've been feeding them info from mac for over a year. Just more so recently.
Also hoping Shortok comes to play here. Doubt there is any person in the world alive today who knows more about PoM than him.
Shortok plays on the PEQ server. Cool dude.
Nuggie
11-06-2013, 11:38 AM
Also Nilbog would the original velious discs help at all? I still have a set id be happy to send you.
I'm no techie, but the disks only have client side info. Nilb and crew rebuilding server side info. Two seperate things.
nilbog
11-06-2013, 12:59 PM
Thanks for links.
Also Nilbog would the original velious discs help at all? I still have a set id be happy to send you.
Thanks for the offer, but it would not help. The recreation of zone information has nothing to do with the client cds. This is done by hand using our own database and scripts. The client cd holds nothing other than animations, textures, sounds, etc.
Swish
11-06-2013, 05:11 PM
VELIOUS
Nominated most epic thread 2013.
RARGLEBLARG FLMMF VELIOUS!
Winter is coming.
http://i.minus.com/jFprBGpo3z5NP.jpg
Origin
11-06-2013, 06:02 PM
http://i.minus.com/jFprBGpo3z5NP.jpg
+1
XDrake
11-06-2013, 06:32 PM
http://i.imgflip.com/4mwpz.jpg
Rellapse35
11-06-2013, 06:36 PM
Rellapse should have ST logs from eq Mac......
lulz
Godefroi
11-06-2013, 07:08 PM
As we near the completion of Velious
http://media.giphy.com/media/EUQNsyA6mWXdu/giphy.gif
maximum
11-10-2013, 06:24 PM
EQmac has a classic Plane of Mischief. It also has a classic Sleeper's Tomb. Unfortunately, the server will be closing forever on 11/18.
Anyone willing to contribute research time, please check out PoM/ST on eqmac. Turn on logs (/log on), take screenshots, fraps, and note anything of importance.
If you don't have a high level character on eqmac, but you do have time, I am sure someone would let you use a character for this purpose as they will soon be eternally derelict.
These aren't the only zones that can be researched, but as I said before, they are certainly the hardest to reach. During Velious beta, all Velious zones will be open for exploration on p99, so help if you can. If this is the last bastion of classic, I'd like for it to resemble classic as much as possible.
Any research information can be mailed to testing.p99@gmail.com
Points of interest:
Logs. /log on. This shows aggro messages, death messages, resisted spells, hit point totals, and a myriad of other useful information.
Respawn times.
Screenshots. Shows mob formations, unique attributes of npcs, etc.
Fraps/video recordings. If something is truly unique and can't be described with words, video goes a long way.
Thanks.
Bump
Laugher
11-11-2013, 12:01 PM
As we near the completion of Velious, I believe it is important to note most questions will arise from the hardest to reach zones.
EQmac has a classic Plane of Mischief. It also has a classic Sleeper's Tomb. Unfortunately, the server will be closing forever on 11/18.
Anyone willing to contribute research time, please check out PoM/ST on eqmac. Turn on logs (/log on), take screenshots, fraps, and note anything of importance.
If you don't have a high level character on eqmac, but you do have time, I am sure someone would let you use a character for this purpose as they will soon be eternally derelict.
These aren't the only zones that can be researched, but as I said before, they are certainly the hardest to reach. During Velious beta, all Velious zones will be open for exploration on p99, so help if you can. If this is the last bastion of classic, I'd like for it to resemble classic as much as possible.
Any research information can be mailed to testing.p99@gmail.com
Points of interest:
Logs. /log on. This shows aggro messages, death messages, resisted spells, hit point totals, and a myriad of other useful information.
Respawn times.
Screenshots. Shows mob formations, unique attributes of npcs, etc.
Fraps/video recordings. If something is truly unique and can't be described with words, video goes a long way.
Thanks.
Rebump
Aeolwind
11-11-2013, 06:44 PM
I know what I'm missing from Sleepers Tomb aside from combat data and I need a SOS rogue to get it. Any Volunteers? I'd prefer login information if someone would allow, but I'd take a volunteer that will take screenshots of virtually every mob 'area'.
Somekid123
11-11-2013, 06:59 PM
I haven't scene Xzerion on in forever, I don't know if hes one of the handful of Dev's that had a fall out with Pro99? But when Pro99 originaly came out in 09 I would help him with information on PoMischief, at that point in time he said he nearly had it complete, if not fully.
Is his work obtainable still Nilbog? And if you don't mind me asking whatever happen to him?
-Andain
Torven
11-13-2013, 05:00 AM
I know what I'm missing from Sleepers Tomb aside from combat data and I need a SOS rogue to get it. Any Volunteers? I'd prefer login information if someone would allow, but I'd take a volunteer that will take screenshots of virtually every mob 'area'.
The sleeper was woken a few days ago, and as of right now only the trash mobs are up.
I have access to a few keyed characters, but no rogue. I took screenshots of showEQ with a fully populated zone a week ago though, which will be included in the data I upload to nilbog.
I also have a few logs of warder battles from my raids in the zone from 2001. From the logs I can glean the following:
Tukaarak the Warder has a DB of 111, a DI of 14.7 (min hit 126, max 405), rampages, mesmerizing breaths, and chaos breaths. ZAM does not list chaos breath but it's in my log.
Hraashna the Warder has a DB of 117, a DI of 19.6 (min hit 137, max 509), and rampages. Log didn't catch his AoE text for whatever reason.
Nanzata's aoe is lava breath, and not frost breath as ZAM has listed. Seems to be the 250 damage one.
blondeattk
11-13-2013, 07:56 AM
SOe used to launch expansions with end zones locked out....(while they finished em)
thinkwe should follow their esteemed model!
Lojik
11-13-2013, 09:15 AM
SOe used to launch expansions with end zones locked out....(while they finished em)
thinkwe should follow their esteemed model!
Yes but they designed those zones. We're trying to reverse engineer them and with the loss of eqmac shortly will lose our best research tool.
blondeattk
11-13-2013, 11:59 AM
Yes but they designed those zones. We're trying to reverse engineer them and with the loss of eqmac shortly will lose our best research tool.
I dont see your point.....velious could be launched earlyy without access to tov or sleeprs tomb/pog. WHy should the vast populace of the server wait for the ubbers playgrounds to be finished off?
Spacebar
11-13-2013, 12:03 PM
I dont see your point.....velious could be launched earlyy without access to tov or sleeprs tomb/pog. WHy should the vast populace of the server wait for the ubbers playgrounds to be finished off?
In before shizz class ick.
PS: I mostly agree with you, though.
fadetree
11-13-2013, 02:13 PM
whats an ubber?
Atmas
11-13-2013, 02:20 PM
I dont see your point.....velious could be launched earlyy without access to tov or sleeprs tomb/pog. WHy should the vast populace of the server wait for the ubbers playgrounds to be finished off?
Not that I would be against a Velious launch with some zones locked but with the closing on the EQ Mac server now is the time to work hard on garnering and assimilating data. The launch of Velious would be a large time commitment for the devs and they could miss the window of opportunity to gain that EQ Mac info.
Lojik
11-13-2013, 02:56 PM
Not that I would be against a Velious launch with some zones locked but with the closing on the EQ Mac server now is the time to work hard on garnering and assimilating data. The launch of Velious would be a large time commitment for the devs and they could miss the window of opportunity to gain that EQ Mac info.
This is essentially what I was getting at, thank you. It would be one thing if the devs could simply make up these zones with their own twist (like sony did) but we are trying to recreate something as it was, and with eqmac closing the window to getting that information is closing.
Aeolwind
11-13-2013, 03:40 PM
The sleeper was woken a few days ago, and as of right now only the trash mobs are up.
I have access to a few keyed characters, but no rogue. I took screenshots of showEQ with a fully populated zone a week ago though, which will be included in the data I upload to nilbog.
I also have a few logs of warder battles from my raids in the zone from 2001. From the logs I can glean the following:
Tukaarak the Warder has a DB of 111, a DI of 14.7 (min hit 126, max 405), rampages, mesmerizing breaths, and chaos breaths. ZAM does not list chaos breath but it's in my log.
Hraashna the Warder has a DB of 117, a DI of 19.6 (min hit 137, max 509), and rampages. Log didn't catch his AoE text for whatever reason.
Nanzata's aoe is lava breath, and not frost breath as ZAM has listed. Seems to be the 250 damage one.
Trash mobs are perfectly fine. I just need to know what is in the stairwells, and the small areas passed the library. I think I have access to a rogue now (Thanks & names will be given out later). Just gotta figure out how to log in lol. Wife just had our first kid, time is on premium.
Tewaz
11-13-2013, 03:53 PM
Pretty sure Secrets' original patch was removed. There are some players that still get in on a PC, but I don't know how. If you don't have access to a Mac, good luck.
Aeolwind
11-13-2013, 03:58 PM
I dont see your point.....velious could be launched earlyy without access to tov or sleeprs tomb/pog. WHy should the vast populace of the server wait for the ubbers playgrounds to be finished off?
In many cases, there are loot tables that are shared, and those are a pain. Also, we kinda work on what strikes our fancy. Like, Skyshrine mobs are 'unscrewed', but the loot tables aren't because they make my brain go potato. Kael is as pristine as the day it opened. Thurgadin isn't because of the 10000 scripts.
Besides, doing raid zones is way more fun than pathing Bulthar0994.
pharmakos
11-13-2013, 05:05 PM
someone with a warrior on EQMac should read this thread http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=126738 and report back, please :)
I decided to load up EQMac one last time today and made a couple of (possibly?) helpful videos in the process. Basically just me running through ST/NToV so that I could see mobs location/pathing data. Temerity cleric Neea was a huge help and would rez me when I died and let me use her cleric for the run through NToV.
First video is a run to the bottom of sleepers.. ended up dying from warping mobs right about the FA dropdown but was later cothed into sleepers room, and figured it was good enough since warders/FA are all static and known anyway and theres only the one pather.
Here's the path I took:
http://i.imgur.com/TTsa8Wg.jpg
Here's the fraps:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olbkvsAjj5o
Second video includes both a loop around telk/gozz/lendaria in WToV and then a quick run (pieces together from multiple attempts) through north, to right past the PoM zone in.
Here's the path I took:
http://i.imgur.com/F0qWP7n.jpg
Here's the fraps:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH8mI_shoIk
I have a 149,616,098 line log I'm working on getting cleaned up that should have data on everything from phinny up through entry level luclin stuff like Grieg and include all ToV/ST stuff aside from Vulak as well. Will post in a bit, trying to strip down to just encounter data.
karanastorm
11-17-2013, 10:29 PM
People should also check to see how far out max Far Clip Plane shows in one area to the next. Go the same hilltop in Kunark DL on p1999 and then on EQMac and make sure both far clip plane is maxed. I know on EQMac it seems a little further out. I can't play there anymore no more mac so this might be helpful to the devs here.
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