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VincentVolaju
07-24-2010, 03:29 PM
I heard there are macros rogues use to lower aggro, and other types that make you hide and sneak better or something? Anyone know some of these macros that Rogues use to make playing them a little easier? (As if it wasnt already easy enough standing behind a mob and spamming back stab)

Thanks!!!

Kujin
07-24-2010, 03:32 PM
/attack off
/doability <# for hide>
/attack on

Use it while fighting to lower your aggro.

VincentVolaju
07-24-2010, 04:01 PM
Ahh nice thanks! Are there any other handy macros I should know about?

Edit: Also I got another question about weps / backstabs. Right now I am using Polished Steel Dirk (8 / 23), its really nice DPS and quick as shit. But I am wondering, would it be better to use a Gloomwater Harpoon (9 / 31) for back stabbing? How much of difference does +1dmg on a weapon make when backstabbing? Would it make up for the 8 more delay on the weapon?

Also, for my off hand should I have a fast delay, or high end damage?

Atennu
07-24-2010, 05:05 PM
You should be rocking a gloom poon primary and PSD secondary. You want the highest damage in primary, best ratio in secondary.

Max str

... Profit

Pyrocat
07-24-2010, 05:51 PM
Not true, the +1dmg only adds like ~15 damage to your max backstab, which really doesn't make up for the better ratio and lower delay. Lower delay means the damage bonus on your mainhand gets applied way more often, which is why a 5/20 mainhand weapon will do way more damage over time than a 10/40.

Kambris
07-24-2010, 05:59 PM
Burning rapier mainhand + Gloompoon offhand = <3

VincentVolaju
07-24-2010, 06:01 PM
So do you think I should swamp em then? Use the PSD main and gloom poon offhand since its only 1 dmg diff?



Edit: Whats stats on burning rapier?

Kambris
07-24-2010, 06:30 PM
http://common.allakhazam.com/images/b/e/be72c75925eae66d05f7be78844940b2.png


The quest to obtain it is quite a pain in the ass though.

VincentVolaju
07-24-2010, 07:18 PM
That doesnt seem all that great, 1 less dmg for 3 less delay? The dex/agi seems decent I guess, but DPS wise I think Id rather use the PSD

Bubbles
07-24-2010, 07:34 PM
Effect: Ignite.

38-46 DD.

HeallunRumblebelly
07-25-2010, 12:32 AM
/attack off
/doability <# for hide>
/attack on

Use it while fighting to lower your aggro.

Same macro works for pickpocket as well <_< (obviously different number)

edit: Evade works like balls so far up to 30, just saying :(

Kambris
07-25-2010, 12:53 AM
Evade rarely works for me even at 42. I've come to hate it...

Icecometus
07-25-2010, 02:38 AM
Not true, the +1dmg only adds like ~15 damage to your max backstab, which really doesn't make up for the better ratio and lower delay. Lower delay means the damage bonus on your mainhand gets applied way more often, which is why a 5/20 mainhand weapon will do way more damage over time than a 10/40.

agreed, I think the best non planer combo is PSD in main hand and BR in off.

Icecometus
07-25-2010, 02:40 AM
Evade rarely works for me even at 42. I've come to hate it...

yes. agility helps a bit I think. I still fail over 40% of the time at 50.

Pyrocat
07-25-2010, 11:32 AM
So do you think I should swamp em then? Use the PSD main and gloom poon offhand since its only 1 dmg diff?



Edit: Whats stats on burning rapier?

Yes, and I think you should do the Burning Rapier quest as well. For most of my rogue career I did PSD mainhand / Burning Rapier offhand.

Let's look at ratios.

Eyerazzia 10/24 = .833 +5dex +4sta
Burning Rapier 7/20 = .700 +5dex +5agi Ignite proc
Polished Steel Dirk 8/23 = .696
Serrated Bone Dirk 8/27 = .593
Gloompoon 9/31 = .581 +4str +25hp

Offhand weapons you want to go for purely the best ratio, since damage bonus doesn't get applied. Ignoring Eyerazzia (put there for comparisons sake) Burning Rapier has the best ratio, stats and proc and is an ideal offhand weapon.

Polished Steel Dirk, which is very close ratio-wise to Burning Rapier has far and away the best ratio for a mainhand weapon until you can get an Eyerazzia. As soon as I got a PSD, I offhanded my Burning Rapier and sold my Gloompoon. As soon as I got an Eyerazzia, I sold my PSD and I'm now rolling with double rapiers. Full on.