A sarnak courier - Goblin Gazughi Ring

[Cyph]

Hi all! I spent a number of hours during the weekend trying to get the Goblin Gazughi Ring for my Druid but was unsuccessful. Over maybe a 5 hour period I was able to get 'a sarnak courier' to spawn x3 times; one time he had some disappointing +5 mana ring and the other two times he had a bloodstone ring :(

The first spawn was probably 30 minutes in, the second and third were within minutes of each other at about the 3 hour mark, nothing after that.

For those who have done this before, what was your experience with him and the ring dropping? I would really like to get it as it would be extremely useful for me!

[Pringles]

I averaged about 1 in 30 or so, I've had 3 rings drop. Totally RNG though, so it could be 1 in 100, or drop on the first kill, just depends on your luck.

[zanderklocke]

Got really lucky and he dropped it the third time I killed him. Every other time I've tried to get him to drop it, I've had very little luck. I'm usually able to spawn him every 10-15 mins though.

[tacite]

I wrote a brief guide to getting the courier to spawn, it's available on the wiki here: http://wiki.project1999.com/A_sarnak_courier

If you want an in person demonstration I would be more than happy to help out, just send me a tell if you see me online. If you're doing this on your druid, I think your best bet would be to charm a barracuda to do most of the killing of the 30 second respawns after you AoE down all the potential placeholders.

As for the droprate, I was averaging one ring every 2-3 hours when I was farming them. I haven't farmed them in a long time, however, and the drop rate may have changed!

[dethbringre]

My advice, as I've been able to camp two of these so far on Red. I would find the spawn points and stick to just one spawn point. They pop so fast its really easier to just sit on top of a spawn point and smash them as they pop. You can kill a few of the others roaming in between and watch track in case any happen to pop up but definitely stick to one spawn point. The reason being is that the courier is so low level that he gets killed rather quickly by goblins and the roaming crusader.

I got my first one in about 3 nights totaling about 12 or so hours, the second I got in about 6 hours in one session. I'm usually able to get one about every 15 or 20 courier kills.

Doing the method of sitting on a specific spawn point you should see about 2 courier spawns every hour on average.

[Ishio]

I wrote a brief guide to getting the courier to spawn, it's available on the wiki here: http://wiki.project1999.com/A_sarnak_courier

If you want an in person demonstration I would be more than happy to help out, just send me a tell if you see me online. If you're doing this on your druid, I think your best bet would be to charm a barracuda to do most of the killing of the 30 second respawns after you AoE down all the potential placeholders.

As for the droprate, I was averaging one ring every 2-3 hours when I was farming them. I haven't farmed them in a long time, however, and the drop rate may have changed!

My matches were the same as OP, however using a cuda did speed up the killing. None the less, 4 hours and 10 courier downs yielded no drops. I had two kill steals that did yield drops. I may go back in and just collect everything. Best bet is also to make sure you're killing goblins as well as they do kill steal any sarnaks.

[dethbringre]

Actually I didn't mean to say that I was averaging one ring every 2-3hours, I meant to say I was averaging 2-3 couriers per hour :)

[Cyph]

Hi Tacite

Thank you for your guide, that is what I have been using.

I did another stint during my (extended) lunch break today; over 2 hours worth he spawned 3 times, 10 minutes in, then 40 minute end, then a bit after 2 hours. That is with both points spawning. Nothing. I did not know about the baracuda (my first time in the zone) so I'll use that going forward, thank you for the suggestion :)

[picklefixer]

I got my first ring on my druid when i first went there to actually lvl around lvl 22-28ish...i believe it took me about 10 days or so. (2 years ago?)

Then i went back at around lvl 55 about a month or so ago to get my lil chanter a ring...i was killing the 2 spots that the wiki shows...i was /root and /staffing them down....took forever to kill...spent 10 hours first day....10 hours the second day...then on the 3rd day, divine inspiration hit "i wonder if theres any animals around to charm", so i quickly find me a pet cuda and withing 3 hours had a ring...killed close to 40 courriers total...

I was xping in perma pits, logged in and it was camped, so i said to myself go camp another ring just for fun...in 12-14 hours i was on number 36 and suck F it and left.

[Cecily]

Took me 13 to get mine.

[Andervin]

Are the PHs and other mobs in the area also around lvl 14 like the courier?

[Cyph]

I think so, I've been helping out low level players whilst I'm at the camp.

[Crede]

For those who have done this before, what was your experience with him and the ring dropping? I would really like to get it as it would be extremely useful for me!

Using Tacite's guide, spawning the 2 PHs, the first night in 5 hours I got 30 couriers, with not a single ring. The second day, after 10 minutes I got it on the first courier. Then, 10 minutes later, the person who took my camp got the ring again.

What does this all tell me? Totally random camp. My advice to you is this:

Do an hour or two of the camp each time you're on and chip away at it. You'll get it soon enough. Don't burn yourself out putting massive hours in at once.

Hope that helps

[Ishio]

Thing that gets me is I'm merely doing this for need and each time I was ksed, it was for greed and the grief that ensued was /report worthy. So I can see their frustration with the infrequent drops.

[skipdog]

If the ring was so easy to get, it would be worth a lot less. The drop rate is quite low.

[Ishio]

If the ring was so easy to get, it would be worth a lot less. The drop rate is quite low.

Granted that being true, I can and have been farming it. Just luck hasn't been on my side.

[Cyph]

Using Tacite's guide, spawning the 2 PHs, the first night in 5 hours I got 30 couriers, with not a single ring. The second day, after 10 minutes I got it on the first courier. Then, 10 minutes later, the person who took my camp got the ring again.

What does this all tell me? Totally random camp. My advice to you is this:

Do an hour or two of the camp each time you're on and chip away at it. You'll get it soon enough. Don't burn yourself out putting massive hours in at once.

Hope that helps

Thanks Crede. Due to the hours that I can play, that is what I have been doing. probably spent 10 hours all up with my longest camp being 4 hours. I'll keep chipping away at it, but for now I think I'll go back to focusing on levelling.

[dethbringre]

Are the PHs and other mobs in the area also around lvl 14 like the courier?


Yes the PHs are quite a bit lower than the surronding mobs. Some of the PHs are higher level than the Courier, i think the Sabertooth Kit is the lowest lvl one but courier isn't much higher level. But, most certainly the PHs are much lower level and easier to kill than the non PH goblins that roam around.

One thing I did notice that I don't think the wiki mentions is that on several occasions I was able to get a Sabertooth Tiger at a spawn point, the first time I saw him I thought I may have been on the wrong spawn point, but then 4 or 5 mobs later a Courier did spawn.

[dethbringre]

Ive only farmed this ring for cash and never had much use for it, til I rerolled a pally.. Now I'm curious, invis vs. animal will work for any mob tagged as non-humanoid non-undead? Or are there certain exceptions to invis vs. animal such as the frogs in Guk or maybe drolvargs?

[Malone88]

Gobbie Ring will break charm for any pet from what I've read.

Camped that courier fool for like 20 hours. 60+ couriers dead = 0 rings.
Gave up and bought the dam thing...sanity saved.

[mwatt]

The Courier is a somewhat uncommon spawn. The drop rate on the ring is very poor.

I got my first ring after 18 Couriers and have still not obtained a second after 49 more Couriers.

[bloodmuffin]

I believe me and swiftlie both camped that thing for a good 30+ hours netting several lvls, we never found one. I came back later on my SK when I was in my 50's and gave it another shot for a good 2 days and still no luck. That being said, I spent about a 10th of the time at the Sarnak Fort and grabbed multiple bracers of the Hidden.

I just sat at the solo pop for courier killing so maybe that was my problem. Camping this was a nightmare and I now hate the item because of it. I'm pretty sure i could spend weeks there and not find one.

[Gruktar]

Do an hour or two of the camp each time you're on and chip away at it. You'll get it soon enough. Don't burn yourself out putting massive hours in at once.


This is good advice.

Also, I don't think some people realize that there's at least 4 places other than the "sweet spot" noted in the wiki (the one with two spawn points) that can spawn the courier/PH, so there will most likely be a spot available anytime you want to go camp it.

As a druid in the mid 30's I actually prefer the other spots over the "sweet spot" because they have less roamers (I haven't had any problems with the courier being KSed by other NPCs) and are easier to manage at my level.

[dethbringre]

Ok so I've camped 2 rings so far on Red so I'd say I'm at least somewhat familiar with the process on getting the courier to spawn. I decided this week to farm a third for a little extra money. So far I've spent about 5 hours at the camp over the last 3 days in total and I'm starting to notice a weird rate of popping the courier. At first I thought it was coincidental but after 3 days of the same thing it looks an awful lot like a trend.

What I'm seeing is several (3-5) couriers spawn very early into my camping, usually within the first 30 mins. After that it quickly begins to taper off. After the 2 hour mark I'm usually lucky to see a courier every hour. If I camp out and come back the next day its the same exact thing, 3-5 couriers very quickly and then almost nothing. It seems as though the chance to pop is on an curve. Many very quickly and then slowly decreasing to nearly none.

Has anyone else noticed this? The first ring I was able to get within 3 days and about 30 couriers. The second ring I farmed I was able to get in one long 8 hour session and about 8-10 couriers. I didn't notice the courier spawn rate decreasing with my first ring but I did notice it on my second ring and I thought it was just coincidental. Now that I'm on the third ring camp I'm seeing it once again.

I'm pretty sure the camp is just pure luck of the spawn but I'm starting to wonder!

[Pringles]

He has many PHs that respawn instantly when the PH / Courier dies. If you get "off" and the PH lives, it'll feel like eternity's between spawns.

[Daldaen]

On Mac server, IVA had an abnormally large aggro value . Mainly due from spamming the invis spell. To the point of being able to spam click it and aggro kite an entire train while you let wizards PBAE blast down a train. Any non-bard could keep aggro spamming it.

I mention this because someone earlier mentioned it wasn't useful to a tank. Besides pissing off your healer due to each click dropping the tank off the healers target window (because invis mechanics). Besides that it was huge aggro replacing midnight mallets in some cases.

[dethbringre]

I know a few times early on I let the PH slip by but after the first ring I camped I've been able to hold 2 spawn points on lockdown with my bard. Keeping both knocked down for several hours in some cases and I still notice this rarity of spawns the longer I sit there. I'm sure its just me but it does seem odd.

[drktmplr12]

Case and point is that this camp sucks. That's why it's valuable. Very prone to the one more syndrome since spawn time is only 30 seconds.

I spent about 15 hours before getting one.

Just ONE MORE

[Calibix]

Did about 10 courier's a few nights ago before going elsewhere. Then did 5 last night and he had it.

[tristantio]

I'd guess thats why the ring sells for 8000pp :)

[williestargell]

If you only got the courier to spawn 3 times you're not doing something right.

First, if you're a druid the courier can spawn, roam and get killed by a goblin before you even see him on track. You need to stay close to his spawn area and the area where he runs into danger near the corner of the lake.

Second, you're a druid, pull pretty much every roamer at once, and AE them down. It's easier just to kill everything that moves than remember what's a PH. This also makes it much easier to manage the first point above. You do the AE kill at the spawn point and then you won't miss it on track when stuff starts to repop.

[fastboy21]

If you only got the courier to spawn 3 times you're not doing something right.

First, if you're a druid the courier can spawn, roam and get killed by a goblin before you even see him on track. You need to stay close to his spawn area and the area where he runs into danger near the corner of the lake.

Second, you're a druid, pull pretty much every roamer at once, and AE them down. It's easier just to kill everything that moves than remember what's a PH. This also makes it much easier to manage the first point above. You do the AE kill at the spawn point and then you won't miss it on track when stuff starts to repop.

The spawn time for this mob/ph is pretty fast. It might not be faster to gather everything for an AE then it would be to just track/kill the ph once you identify it.

[Calibix]

The spawn time for this mob/ph is pretty fast. It might not be faster to gather everything for an AE then it would be to just track/kill the ph once you identify it.

He meant gather up all of the potential PH's, then aoe them down near the spawn points. Once something pops at the spawn, you know you have the right PH and can just kill that.

[Kekephee]

Actually I didn't mean to say that I was averaging one ring every 2-3hours, I meant to say I was averaging 2-3 couriers per hour :)

I was gonna say, teach me your magic

I spent about two weeks camping this guy every night after work for 2-5 hours and basically what I got was 1-3 couriers an hour, 1 ring after about 30-40 couriers, something like that. This was sitting down in front of a single spawn point, sending my necro's pet in to kill the spawns as soon as they popped.

[Acrux Bcrux]

Ive camped this a few times recently and they def silent nerfed the spawn chance on this guy at some point. About 2 years ago i used to be able to get atleast 10 curiours to spawn per hour, every hour, no problem. Now im lucky if i get one an hour.

[dethbringre]

Ive camped this a few times recently and they def silent nerfed the spawn chance on this guy at some point. About 2 years ago i used to be able to get atleast 10 curiours to spawn per hour, every hour, no problem. Now im lucky if i get one an hour.

Yeah I believe you are correct the first time I tried spawning this it took two days and about 8 or 10 hours to get the ring. In those two days I killed roughly 30 couriers to get this ring. Of course out of pure blind luck my second ring only took one LONG day to get him to pop and I got the ring after about 10 courier kills. So from what I would say is I got roughly triple the mobs the first attempt at a ring.

I camped courier all week long this week spending 1-2 hours each night working TWO spawn points killing the mobs within 10secs of pop and I managed to get roughly 12 couriers to spawn all week.

So what I'm thinking now is based on pure averages your going to average about 1 maybe 2 couriers per hour. The first time I camped the ring I averaged 3 maybe 4