SNEAK PULLING WITH SCREENSHOTS

[Buellen]

* sorry for all caps in title *

Hello Everyone

A while back I read a post by Knix regarding sneak puling but until recently didn't have a toon with sneak to try it out.

here is post by knix : http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117955&highlight=sneak+pulling

So having my monk leveling I have used sneak to single pull in many situations without having to use my feign death ability. I thought I share my current hunting spot and show how use sneak to pull and break up a group of monsters. here are some screen shots to help.

http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac200/11chato11/EQ000007_zps7d7668c3.png (http://s899.photobucket.com/user/11chato11/media/EQ000007_zps7d7668c3.png.html)


notice 3 spawn in cave in swamp of no hope. all the mob facing same direction.

[Buellen]

here is some more screen shots and action


http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac200/11chato11/EQ000010_zps787812de.png (http://s899.photobucket.com/user/11chato11/media/EQ000010_zps787812de.png.html)


http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac200/11chato11/EQ000008_zpsc25c5178.png (http://s899.photobucket.com/user/11chato11/media/EQ000008_zpsc25c5178.png.html)



As you can see i have pulled single mob by staying in the back of mob while having sneak engaged.

[Buellen]

action cont 2 mobs left.

http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac200/11chato11/EQ000011_zps9b237dd0.png (http://s899.photobucket.com/user/11chato11/media/EQ000011_zps9b237dd0.png.html)

[Buellen]

here is 2nd pull

http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac200/11chato11/EQ000012_zps24068fb8.png (http://s899.photobucket.com/user/11chato11/media/EQ000012_zps24068fb8.png.html)


http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac200/11chato11/EQ000013_zpsef9eb3fd.png (http://s899.photobucket.com/user/11chato11/media/EQ000013_zpsef9eb3fd.png.html)


hope this will help some folks like me who didnt have a clue sneak worked this way here on p1999.

[Clark]

dang

[Xerxes]

mind blown...thank you sir i had no idea how this worked!

[Sckrilla]

THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!11

[Spacebar]

Yep, this is a great way to pull. There are a lot of places where this works really well, like at Arena in CoM where you have to pull those three undead just after the door in the center, or in KC, or well anywhere actually.

I have noticed times where it hits and maybe breaks sneak or something and more than one aggroes though (I'm pretty sure that's what happened in those cases cause I definitely didn't unbreak sneak myself). But I'm also pretty sure it doesn't break sneak every time I get a hit with a throwing wep while sneaking.

[Spacebar]

THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!11

IMPOSSIBRU!

[Bazia]

[60 Assassin] Sckrilla fo'Rilla the Silent
[60 Sorcerer] Masha Scream
[60 Grave Lord] Netta Skog
[60 Oracle] Ville Sorvali
[52 Monk] Voimasta ja'Kunniasta

and some nerds ask how long the same people can farm kunark

[Cecily]

Hit while sneaking (that isn't non magic on magic to injure mob) = broken sneak. That's not right. Sneak should only break when you get hit. Sneak pulls have been broken for awhile now, and it's especially bad for rogues.

[Swish]

I'm going to be a noob and ask a couple of questions :D

1. Are you body pulling? Or throwing a shuriken when you're at a certain distance?
2. When the mob hits you after pulling it, doesn't it break sneak? If so, you need to be out of aggro range of the other two?

[Layne]

I'm going to be a noob and ask a couple of questions :D

1. Are you body pulling? Or throwing a shuriken when you're at a certain distance?
2. When the mob hits you after pulling it, doesn't it break sneak? If so, you need to be out of aggro range of the other two?

You need to be using range either throwing or bow.

[Pullyn]

I'm going to be a noob and ask a couple of questions :D

1. Are you body pulling? Or throwing a shuriken when you're at a certain distance?
2. When the mob hits you after pulling it, doesn't it break sneak? If so, you need to be out of aggro range of the other two?

Range item, preferably 250 range javs. Also be out of aggro range when your sneak gets broken or you will aggro the other mobs. Also a successful hit on the mob you are pulling can screw up your split causing other nearby mobs to socially aggro.

[eqravenprince]

Range item, preferably 250 range javs. Also be out of aggro range when your sneak gets broken or you will aggro the other mobs. Also a successful hit on the mob you are pulling can screw up your split causing other nearby mobs to socially aggro.

I'm an idiot, I've been using Shurikens this whole time. Do javs stack? If not, how do carry enough of them for this to be feasible? I must be missing something.

[Kutsumo]

I'm an idiot, I've been using Shurikens this whole time. Do javs stack? If not, how do carry enough of them for this to be feasible? I must be missing something.

I didn't think they stacked either, but they do stack to 20.

[Buellen]

not sure if you was asking me swish.

1. I use shuriken to pull. I am probably just out of agro range of closest mob but cant be sure because successful sneak has reduced the agro radius of my target.

2. Mob hitting me those break sneak but i am far enough away from other mobs or using walls to block line of sight to not have them agro.

[eqravenprince]

I didn't think they stacked either, but they do stack to 20.

I'll have to work on my blacksmithing to make some then.

[Yaolin]

Funny how little people actually know, sneak pulling is OP and so is pulling the right mob so you only get half the camp instead of all of it. A great puller makes a great group, also figuring out respawn times and locking those down helps a lot too.

[Elements]

One of the reasons why halflings make the best warriors. Split pulling and tanking rolled into one.

[Nirgon]

and some nerds ask how long the same people can farm kunark

Kunark's great, most people don't get to really dig in deep on it.

The way this shit should work is a 4 year classic through Velious rolling restart server... kind of like a new ladder in D2. Botb champions crowned etc.

[CodyF86]

You can also pull casters / whatever out of a room without initial line of sight (i.e., so you can fd without getting nuked) with stalking probes...and of course I always forget to take screenshots doing Chardok King / Queen / Prince, which is the best example of pulling with probes ever...

Anyway go get some stalking probes from a tinkerer as well. :)

Aaradin
The A-Team

[Argh]

You can also pull casters / whatever out of a room without initial line of sight (i.e., so you can fd without getting nuked) with stalking probes...and of course I always forget to take screenshots doing Chardok King / Queen / Prince, which is the best example of pulling with probes ever...

Anyway go get some stalking probes from a tinkerer as well. :)

Aaradin
The A-Team

Aaradin's the king of probe pulls.

[Tikker]

Sneak pulling is broken due to range weapons being broken


Way its supposed to work is that you fire bow

Engage sneak, reducing agro range of mobs

Arrow hits target, sneak reduced agro so social agro doesn't affect his buddies

Mob comes solo


But because range weapon agro is instant sneak pull broken

[Cecily]

Sneak isnt supposed to break on a hit ><

[radditsu]

Sneak pulling is broken due to range weapons being broken


Way its supposed to work is that you fire bow

Engage sneak, reducing agro range of mobs

Arrow hits target, sneak reduced agro so social agro doesn't affect his buddies

Mob comes solo


But because range weapon agro is instant sneak pull broken

Range weapons should have travel delay like bolts. Both bolts and range are borked

[Buellen]

qoute" "sneak breaks on successful hit on target"

This just seem like it happens with short range weapon but it is not the case. I did some further test at my current camp.

Results:

if puling with short range weapon throwing knife , hammer, shuriken etc the target you have hit turns and moves toward you. If at time it turn and steps toward you it is in its normal agro radius sneak breaks.

You can prevent this by timing your throw as you start to move backward thus maintaining out of agro range while mob moves toward you. this will give you a few more steps and will usually prevent the mob you pulled friends from joining. (i could pull and break the iskar exil camp easy with sneak pulling using shuriken with this method)


Obviously you want to get longest range weapon your class can use. Personally I am heading back to freeport with my monk for training and making javelins.


Garue 49th Half Elf Warrior // Buskier 34th Human Cleric // Shoul 30th Human Monk

[Tikker]

Range weapons should have travel delay like bolts. Both bolts and range are borked


yes, but it's broken