FE takes sky Sundays

[Frieza_Prexus]

That being said, do you guys even have a guild leader elected?

A number of options are being discussed amongst various parties. I imagine news will develop over the next several days.

[talian21]

I don't see how this is a discussion at all - this has become a few people arguing over NOTHING. Almost all of the guilds currently adhering to the player conspired Sky schedule are honoring and accepting FE's desire to move to a better time slot. A guild can not contest that if they are NO longer a guild, that shouldn't have to be stated.

As to the Bob's noncommittal approach to the scheduling of Sky that is exactly the attitude the GM's did NOT want to see. They expect us to settle this among ourselves and not try to be separate elitists all holding measuring sticks. Pointing the blame at one person or even one guild is not correct - this withering of humility has been happening for a long time and has been happening from EVERY guild. This cut-throat mentality just has no room in the ENJOYABLE raid scenario.

Now I know there will inevitably be a few top guilds, and that's to be expected, but this constant bickering is NOT the way to go about settling things. Use your brain, I know most of you have them. If an underdog wants a shot, whose to stop them from trying? The same guilds vying for dominance. This is supposed to be a player coordinated attempt at civility, lets give it a shot ?

This is one classy post. :)

[Fael]

This is the problem with rotations. They are not gm enforced.
They only work when they are mutually beneficial. So actually divinity FE whoever has no authority to make any schedule that effects anyone that hasn't agreed to the schedule. If TMO or any other guild is not a part of your little treaty, we can raid whenever the hell we want, and it reverts back to FTe or whatever criteria Sirken and the staff lay down. Like fear and hate. Etc.

So it's a bold move to put some salt in our wound umbrella. But honestly, the best thing to do at this point is not take advantage of the situation but realize that TMO members Will reform and we will be a player in the raid scene for year so come.

Anyways. Always liked you you. Consider you a good friend. Appreciate the job your doing leading Fe, but this whole scheme is bs IMO.

Dolic

[Elements]

FE claims a new era of play-nice-policy for the raid scene. First official act since claim is to usurp another guilds sky day from a long established player agreed to sky rotation (title of post ***TAKE***) on some bullshit made-up technicality... TMO is not banned from sky. I'm glad the veil on your phoney PR attempt has been lifted so quickly.

[Thulack]

FE claims a new era of play-nice-policy for the raid scene. First official act since claim is to usurp another guilds sky day from a long established player agreed to sky rotation (title of post ***TAKE***) on some bullshit made-up technicality... TMO is not banned from sky. I'm glad the veil on your phoney PR attempt has been lifted so quickly.

The Mystical Order

Recently the guild formerly known as The Mystical Order disbanded.

What guild is this?

[Ella`Ella]

FE claims a new era of play-nice-policy for the raid scene. First official act since claim is to usurp another guilds sky day from a long established player agreed to sky rotation (title of post ***TAKE***) on some bullshit made-up technicality... TMO is not banned from sky. I'm glad the veil on your phoney PR attempt has been lifted so quickly.

You're not really interested in understanding, your interest is in flaming. If you've read through the pages in this thread, you'll see the overwhelming support for FE to take the day which a no longer existent guild used to occupy. Usurpation is an ugly word. Rumor on the street is Zagum is looking to reunite some of the members of the former TMO. I'm willing to work with him to come to a resolution of some capacity. Beyond that, see you on Sunday.

[Clark]

<Lord Bob> has expressed their intention of shitting all over the sky rotation for some time. They tried to fuck Divinity on Wednesday as well.

That being said, Lazie has a point as well. It doesn't really make sense for them to make enemies of FE. I was discussing this with Bringback and we were fairly sure they would go for AG, Divinity, and The A-Team simply because we are are the smallest. It would not surprise me at all if the core of <Lord Bob> are some TMO alts/ex TMO who are pissed of and, to quote The Dark Knight, "just want to see the world burn".

IMO both <Lord Bob> and any TMO that went up with them need to start taking a little heat for this.

I definitely agree that TMO should be in any peace process. I know a lot of people want to burn the ex TMO at stake, but hey, if you wanna say you play nice you have to play nice when it hurts, ya know? That being said, do you guys even have a guild leader elected?

[kotton05]

if I see TMO up there with zag as leader I wont step on his toes in good faith and let the new TMO have their day as usual but will continue to think its underserving due to sat mornings actions of some of their members, I think other FE would back me up on this and we'll figure it out when its not such a sensitive subject, pending their leadership change.

[quido]

If any of your leaders are around, please have them get in touch with me regarding sky today.

[kotton05]

lets talk now cause I have some new info about it, brella gave me fulls reigns

[Nocsucow]

any room for a rog or necro in sky ?

[quido]

Acknowledging that FE got somewhat screwed yesterday, TMO is offering their Sunday AM sky slot to FE for today only. After today, everything is back to normal with the rotation.

Thanks to Merkk and Unbrella for a civil discussion. I'm glad to see the sky rotation will continue to be amicably upheld from our respective parties.

[kotton05]

:::::ATTENTION::::::

After a discussion with Jeremy, TMO will not be contesting us at sky due to sat mornings actions in good faith that they will have their spot back once they are retagged and under new leadership. I chose to honor that deal at this current time with Unbrella's blessing that I'd make the right choice. I don't think its fair to really try to take a spot from the good members of TMO due to Zeelots selfish actions, nor is it fair what happened to us sat morning in sky, FE may have been quick to say its ours.. but after the post Unbrella made there has much thought and talking on both sides. We have come to level terms with this Sunday time slot for now.

Next week TMO under new leadership will have their spot back. Today it will be ours.

I now need to talk to anyone who can't clear 5-8 regularly in sky.

[Elements]

You're not really interested in understanding, your interest is in flaming. If you've read through the pages in this thread, you'll see the overwhelming support for FE to take the day which a no longer existent guild used to occupy. Usurpation is an ugly word. Rumor on the street is Zagum is looking to reunite some of the members of the former TMO. I'm willing to work with him to come to a resolution of some capacity. Beyond that, see you on Sunday.

What is to understand here? A single player made a decision that resulted in what is likely to be the temporary removal of a guild tag from its players. Those players have no reason not to do sky on their day. You swoop in trying to rule lawyer hours into this new pnp era only to cause a situation that would likely result in requiring GM intervention if you were to make good on your previous posts. Nothing you can say will backpedal you far enough to correct for the mistake of not coming to TMO and discussing this first instead of trying to "Take" the sky day out from under us. It really goes to show FE's true colors.

[radditsu]

What is to understand here? A single player made a decision that resulted in what is likely to be the temporary removal of a guild tag from its players. Those players have no reason not to do sky on their day. You swoop in trying to rule lawyer hours into this new pnp era only to cause a situation that will likely result in requiring GM intervention. Nothing you can say will backpedal you far enough to correct for the mistake of not coming to TMO and discussing this first instead of trying to "Take" the sky day out from under us. It really goes to show FE's true colors.

You have no tag you have no spot. Please stop trolling a thread that seems to be nothing but workout of new way and cooperation. Your type of discourse is not the way to go. Your leader bailed. Your guild dissolved. Please step aside if you cannot be a positive mouthpiece for the "NEW " TMO. Geromy is a good example so far.

[Elements]

You have no tag you have no spot. Please stop trolling a thread that seems to be nothing but workout of new way and cooperation. Your type of discourse is not the way to go. Your leader bailed. Your guild dissolved. Please step aside if you cannot be a positive mouthpiece for the "NEW " TMO. Geromy is a good example so far.

Thank you for confirming my previous posts.

[radditsu]

Thank you for confirming my previous posts.

Lol good luck with your attitude. I doubt it will continue to be tolerated. Especially when your guild cant bully people anymore.

[Frogie305]

:::::ATTENTION::::::

After a discussion with Jeremy, TMO will not be contesting us at sky due to sat mornings actions in good faith that they will have their spot back once they are retagged and under new leadership. I chose to honor that deal at this current time with Unbrella's blessing that I'd make the right choice. I don't think its fair to really try to take a spot from the good members of TMO due to Zeelots selfish actions, nor is it fair what happened to us sat morning in sky, FE may have been quick to say its ours.. but after the post Unbrella made there has much thought and talking on both sides. We have come to level terms with this Sunday time slot for now.

Next week TMO under new leadership will have their spot back. Today it will be ours.

I now need to talk to anyone who can't clear 5-8 regularly in sky.

+1

[Hitpoint]

:::::ATTENTION::::::

After a discussion with Jeremy, TMO will not be contesting us at sky due to sat mornings actions in good faith that they will have their spot back once they are retagged and under new leadership. I chose to honor that deal at this current time with Unbrella's blessing that I'd make the right choice. I don't think its fair to really try to take a spot from the good members of TMO due to Zeelots selfish actions, nor is it fair what happened to us sat morning in sky, FE may have been quick to say its ours.. but after the post Unbrella made there has much thought and talking on both sides. We have come to level terms with this Sunday time slot for now.

Next week TMO under new leadership will have their spot back. Today it will be ours.

I now need to talk to anyone who can't clear 5-8 regularly in sky.

Glad this ended well. Good job negotiating guys. Jeremy, Merkk and Unbrella.

[Fael]

merkk and unbrella +2

Dolic

[radditsu]

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[Luchino]

Racists!

[Detoxx]

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[baramur]

Our guild is taking Sunday sky, as we have since, like, forever. We never relinquished it. I dunno how you think you can just *seize* it. We have approval to go from server staff.

You have denied the server of every rotation offered to you on every other raid mob. WHO GIVES A FUCK what day you want in sky. WHAT makes you think you even have a right to even ask. THE SERVER should COCKBLOCK you from sky for every single day for 2 years. YOU ASSHOLES monopolized EVERY important raid mob for over 2 years. PISS OFF!