Veeshan's Peak

[Rogean]

The no interference policy for Veeshan's Peak has been removed. Regular raid policies now apply.

[Brut]

Sweet. Dwagons there gonna get FTE messages patched in?

Also semi-curious on opinion about spawned wurms being planted at zonein etc.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Another huge boner!!! Who needs Viagra when we have Rogean!?!?!

[Ravager]

Thank you! I finally want to use the key I quested 2 years ago!

[Fountree]

how coincidental! Grats IB/FE on not having to deal with those pesky trains!

[arsenalpow]

IN ROGEAN WE TRUST

[kbnexus]

how coincidental! Grats IB/FE on not having to deal with those pesky trains! All hail leader Rogean

[sulious]

Great day for players of p99.. Sad day for families and Christmas!

[pharmakos]

this just keeps getting better

a-whole-new-world.mp3

[Agatha]

doh.

[Fountree]

I wonder when the GMs are going to post any details whatsoever about the extent of the duping...and clear the names of those not involved. No matter though! TMO dead/all players in it's reputations ruined/smeared = mission accomplished.

[YendorLootmonkey]

I wonder when the GMs are going to post any details whatsoever about the extent of the duping...and clear the names of those not involved. No matter though! TMO dead/all players in it's reputations ruined/smeared = mission accomplished.

This thread is for having boners, not RNF material, sir.

[khanable]

So long TMO.

Pras rogean

[Lazie]

::AWESOME NEWS!:::

[Rogean]

VP Dragons now have FTE Shouts. No patch needed.

[Brut]

/cheer

[Fountree]

Sorry I'm making you uncomfortable Yendor

[falkun]

Sorry I'm making you uncomfortable Yendor

A stain on Contemptor's boot does not make Yendor uncomfortable, but its presence smells and we request Contemptor leave his GEBs outside the next time he steps into the guild hall.

[MaksimMazor]

Poopsock central

[Fountree]

Poopsock central

Lol better raid environment inc!

[Lazie]

Poopsock central

Hurts doesn't it ? Knowing you can't send in griefers to stop people from competing legitimately!

[Tasslehofp99]

Great day for project1999, a super big improvement for the raiding scene. Pras rogean!

[chief]

lol vp was the only zone that was fun.

[Lazie]

lol vp was the only zone that was fun.

IF you want to kill players there is a red server.

[Fountree]

Where is velious? Cuz this server just pooped a brick all over what was left of the fun in Kunark besides single grouping dungeons. New VS pit = PD room

[Lazie]

Where is velious? Cuz this server just pooped a brick all over what was left of the fun in Kunark besides single grouping dungeons.

Thankfully they are getting this back to a classic server!

[sanforce]

Rogean power tripping hard right now. I wonder which ib bought the lobster dinner!

[Lazie]

Rogean power tripping hard right now. I wonder which ib bought the lobster dinner!

Uh oh... Tinfoil Hats has a new applicant!

[Fountree]

Thanks Rogean/nilbog for givin teh infos

[Rararboker]

Great job staff!

[Lazie]

Maybe there'd be less debate over who is tinfoil hatting and/or "corrupt" if there was some better communication between our server leaders and the community regarding their decision making process. I don't know if its a genuine refusal to do it or not, but something stinks.

No offense but GMs rarely have ever explained in detail everything to the players about their decisions on this server. They do not answer to us. It is odd that when calls go against a certain guild there is "legitimate concerns with management" according to you guys. However, when calls go against other guilds "Nothing is wrong with management they are all just cheaters that wear tinfoil hats!!!".

It's like watching you guys say the exact same things people in other guilds were saying before people in your guild got busted. Except then according to you fellas it was because everyone else was breaking the rules. Hows the shoe on the other foot feel ? We can have your tinfoil hat specially tailored depending on the size of your head.

[Fountree]

I don't understand why you guys act like such children. Grow up

Ok, I'll stop. You guys win, there's no way I or anyone else can change anything. Unfortunately, 2-way communication is what a true community is based on and that element of things seems to have fallen by the wayside here in the last 48 hours.

[Funkutron5000]

Ok, I'll stop. You guys win, there's no way I or anyone else can change anything. Unfortunately, 2-way communication is what a true community is based on and that element of things seems to have fallen by the wayside here in the last 48 hours.

Actually, a lot of us have worked for change in the last few days. See: the new raiding agreement.

And Rogean just changed the rules in VP.

Rogean 2013: Change you can believe in.

[Fountree]

Actually, a lot of us have worked for change in the last few days. See: the new raiding agreement.

And Rogean just changed the rules in VP.

Rogean 2013: Change you can believe in.

Yes, change sponsored by FE/IB comes easy. Did you even play on this server when IB was dominating? lol

I admire your new raid agreement though, I believe TMO should have agreed to a rotation months ago but thats just me.

[khanable]

I admire your new raid agreement though, I believe TMO should have agreed to a rotation months ago but thats just me.

There is still time. Once you guys get reformed get involved.

[Splorf22]

The no interference policy for Veeshan's Peak has been removed. Regular raid policies now apply.

$$$$$

[Ele]

Like.

[nilbog]

Can we get nilbog to weigh in?

I have been a supporter of VP pnp for quite a while. Especially when evidence was presented for exception incidents for guides of the era.

Discussed in this thread:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117238

guide doc (https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:mwa1WUHD2x4J:membres.multimania.fr/nesousxlanonyme/Guide.doc+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShagfmo70G4Hr3AWsFpKz9hdXLtEnHCAv93fSB8 4bCEJWNq-hnaRnApYQCkHRflbQBNkhZtHNtPY9raKH_g6vktUWMPandZ1DE gOgEPM-_mNCNx0DVtsBWTWgw-TSplHi-l1kdR&sig=AHIEtbQg2wE_u2AbJw53D8lcWnuWktzBhg)

From a bug thread posted by someone there. NOTICE the very first condition.

5.6.2 Acceptable CSRep Presence in Customer Service Limited Zones

The presence of Customer Service Representatives in Customer Service Limited Zones creates two undesired situations. First, players are more likely to ask for assistance in gameplay issues from the CS staff if a CS Rep is in the zone. Second, players are more likely to blame CS Representatives for any inconvenience they may experience if a CS Rep is in the zone. For these reasons mentioned above CS Reps must not be in Customer Service Limited Zones except under the following conditions:
•They are investigating a possible Exception Incident (Abuse, Disruption, or Exploitation) at the request of a player.
•They are investigating a possible bug at the request of a player for documentation purposes.
•They are removing a corpse from an object such as the ground, a wall, a tree, etc. according to Corpse Recovery Procedure (See 7.3 Corpse Recovery)
•They are unsticking a player stuck on the geometry (in an object, in a wall, etc). The player should be moved the minimum amount of distance necessary to unstick them from the geometry.
•They are summoning a corpse from a verified inaccessible area listed in 5.6.2.1 to a position of the player's choice within the zone.
•They are summoning a player from a verified inaccessible area listed in 5.6.2.1 in the Customer Service Limited Zone to a non-PvP area of Arena and then back to either the zone-in point of the Customer Service Limited Zone or to another player of the player's choice in the Customer Service Limited Zone.
•They are following Policy and Procedures concerning an Under the World Case. (See 7.13)

Thanks so much for doing the research and finding this. I knew I didn't remember training in VP for a reason

Falls under disruption. I'd like to see an era of legitimate raids in VP.

[Fountree]

Thanks for the reasoning Nilbog If it's classic it's classic :)

[Lazie]

I have been a supporter of VP pnp for quite a while. Especially when evidence was presented for exception incidents for guides of the era.

Discussed in this thread:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117238

guide doc (https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:mwa1WUHD2x4J:membres.multimania.fr/nesousxlanonyme/Guide.doc+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShagfmo70G4Hr3AWsFpKz9hdXLtEnHCAv93fSB8 4bCEJWNq-hnaRnApYQCkHRflbQBNkhZtHNtPY9raKH_g6vktUWMPandZ1DE gOgEPM-_mNCNx0DVtsBWTWgw-TSplHi-l1kdR&sig=AHIEtbQg2wE_u2AbJw53D8lcWnuWktzBhg)



Falls under disruption. I'd like to see an era of legitimate raids in VP.

Praise the players who found this information!!

[Ephirith]

Falls under disruption. I'd like to see an era of legitimate raids in VP.

This makes me happy... VP was a mess. Just one big excessively adversarial aberration of the spirit of classic EQ.

[Splorf22]

Falls under disruption. I'd like to see an era of legitimate raids in VP.

Nilbog I think the staff coming out and saying that you guys are tired of the insane competition that dominates the endgame scene is great. Bringing the PnP to VP is great as well.

All we need now is simultaneous repops and the cleansing will be complete. Repops are totally classic too - there are logs showing that Verant reset the servers basically every week during the Kunark era.

[carli]

it's like the cherry on top!

[sanforce]

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[Ella`Ella]

Nilbog I think the staff coming out and saying that you guys are tired of the insane competition that dominates the endgame scene is great. Bringing the PnP to VP is great as well.

All we need now is simultaneous repops and the cleansing will be complete. Repops are totally classic too - there are logs showing that Verant reset the servers basically every week during the Kunark era.

You really don't want simultaneous repops. It sounds great, but it's a mother fucker.

[quido]

While I am sad to see VP training go (definitely the most fun to be had after 3 years of Kunark, for me anyways), it will be interesting to see where this change takes us.

I wonder what the staff at the time of the non-csr policy's introduction thought would happen with training allowed. Pretty much everyone I knew thought only TR would ever get kills in VP as a result.

[Fountree]

Nilbog I think the staff coming out and saying that you guys are tired of the insane competition that dominates the endgame scene is great. Bringing the PnP to VP is great as well.

All we need now is simultaneous repops and the cleansing will be complete. Repops are totally classic too - there are logs showing that Verant reset the servers basically every week during the Kunark era.

Hey loraen that may be true about repops but given the extended timeline wouldn't that flood the server with high end droppable items? Maybe that's what they're afraid of

[Lazie]

Sanforce Nilbog just made a post showing it wasn't Classic the way VP was being handled. Players have told you guys this forever!

[Detoxx]

but I believe something is fishy here. Can we get nilbog to weigh in?

[sanforce]

Sanforce Nilbog just made a post showing it wasn't Classic the way VP was being handled. Players have told you guys this forever!

Uhg, well I'm glad my 4th alt already has Phara Dar loot at level 20. Have fun in there guyz.

[Brut]

Hey loraen that may be true about repops but given the extended timeline wouldn't that flood the server with high end droppable items? Maybe that's what they're afraid of

Hasn't that ship kinda sailed already, reached it's destination and returned to the port to take off again?

[Splorf22]

Hey loraen that may be true about repops but given the extended timeline wouldn't that flood the server with high end droppable items? Maybe that's what they're afraid of

It's not like the server isn't flooded with high end droppable items already, and we have so many high level players anyway after so much Kunark.

Repops:

Eliminate the need for tracking
Put guilds into different zones reducing the potential for douchebaggery
Spread the wealth a bit, especially in Velious
ARE CLASSIC

[sanforce]

Hasn't that ship kinda sailed already, reached it's destination and returned to the port to take off again?

Yes, all the ships have sailed at this point.

TMO gone,
VP carebear.
Soon to be careebear raid rotations.

Y'all win, GG.

[falkun]

Hey loraen that may be true about repops but given the extended timeline wouldn't that flood the server with high end droppable items? Maybe that's what they're afraid of

200 Traks at 2.5 teeth a pop is 450 teeth, and that's just TMO's with a lowball tooth/Trak ratio. There is already a flood of high end items, including droppables. However 80ish% of those items reside within one guild whos geared to the nines. They are tired, not afraid, of one guild holding all the content hostage.

[Brut]

Yes, all the ships have sailed at this point.

TMO gone,
VP carebear.
Soon to be careebear raid rotations.

Y'all win, GG.

Grats us then.

[sanforce]

200 Traks at 2.5 teeth a pop is 450 teeth, and that's just TMO's with a lowball tooth/Trak ratio. There is already a flood of high end items, including droppables. However 80ish% of those items reside within one guild whos geared to the nines. They are tired, not afraid, of one guild holding all the content hostage.

Old bank only has like ~150 teeth banked, not all that many. That is a lot of lifetaps tho, if were were to go around using em.

Edit: 3 trak teeth for sale - 250k a pop

[Tenlaar]

TMO gone,
VP carebear.
Soon to be careebear raid rotations.

Y'all win, GG.
http://memecrunch.com/meme/S7BF/just-bought-a-vape/image.png

[sanforce]

Good movie!

[JayN]

you got to be kidding me.

What a piece of work

[Detoxx]

Welcome to Project World of Warcraft where if you can't beat em, bitch and complain for changes until you get your way which eventually leads to instancing and anyone who can play 3 hours a week gets just as much loot as the people who play more. If TMO had been beaten legitimately by an opposing force, that would be much easier to swallow than this.

Inb4 instancing.

[JayN]

someone must be selling the whole thing to sony; it better work right i suppose.

[Splorf22]

Welcome to Project World of Warcraft where if you can't beat em, bitch and complain for changes until you get your way which eventually leads to instancing and anyone who can play 3 hours a week gets just as much loot as the people who play more. If TMO had been beaten legitimately but an opposing force, that would be much easier to swallow than this. Inb4 instancing.

Dude, its a fucking emulation of a 15 year old game. God forbid you can't cockblock people who play less.

The best thing about the past few days is that Rogean and Nilbog have straight up come out and said 'this current hypercompetitive raid scene has got to go; we are providing this server so people can come back and relive a few memories'.

[sanforce]

Welcome to Project World of Warcraft where if you can't beat em, bitch and complain for changes until you get your way which eventually leads to instancing and anyone who can play 3 hours a week gets just as much loot as the people who play more. If TMO had been beaten legitimately by an opposing force, that would be much easier to swallow than this.

Inb4 instancing.

World of Evercraft here we come!

[EQsale]

I for one am really happy this has finally been changed and the direction Rogean is going ITS ABOUT TIME for change.

And too all the tmo whiners in these threads adopt or just leave you wont be missed.

[Funkutron5000]

You can still compete for mobs without training other guilds into oblivion.

[sanforce]

Didn't you know, whining works well on this server. It's the new #1 strategy to get raid mobs and pixels.

[Splorf22]

I have never understood the competitiveness of people on this server. Aside from the fact that its a video game, this is a reroll. An emulation. If your guild cleared Velious first on Live, I would call that an accomplishment. There was scope for creativity. People had to actually work out the quests. Figure out the strategies. Now? We know it all - it's just a matter of showing up more than the other guys.

[JayN]

I for one am really happy this has finally been changed and the direction Rogean is going ITS ABOUT TIME for change.

And too all the tmo whiners in these threads adopt or just leave you wont be missed.

Adopt to what; Rogeans corrupt ass banned half the raid force and all but destroyed our guild with libel and slander on his fornt page.

be a man tmo and just die in the corner !

several gms have come out with the insane tantrums Rogean threw about his friends not getting a fair shake/easy time.

there is not one thread or of evidence or even a screenshot to what rogean has said; hes got a hardon for one guild and took them down.

[Detoxx]

We get it, loraen. It's an emulated server. People like you push so hard for classic, but only if it's benefitting you. I don't know about you, but i clearly remember one guild dominating content in classic. Why do you think instancing was made in the first place? And before all you people say OMG there was rotations on live, those were rotations when velious, at the least, was already in place. A time when there was more than 17 raid mobs.

[sanforce]

you would know it kept you afloat as long as it did until enough was enough

Nah. Lots of characters camped at raid targets, tracking, and FTE kept TMO alive for so long. Duping, RMTing, and whining took us down.

[justin2090]

I wonder when the GMs are going to post any details whatsoever about the extent of the duping...and clear the names of those not involved. No matter though! TMO dead/all players in it's reputations ruined/smeared = mission accomplished.

Lt. Aldo Raine - "I mean, if I had my way... you'd wear that goddamn uniform (guild tag) for the rest of your pecker-suckin' life. But I'm aware that ain't practical, I mean at some point you're gonna hafta take it off. So. I'm 'onna give you a little somethin' you can't take off."

http://www.morethings.com/fan/quentin_tarantino/inglourious_basterds/inglourious-basterds-1530.jpg

[Joyelle]

Rogean can do whatever the hell he wants because it's his server. If you can't deal with that please go play elsewhere.

[sanforce]

Rogean can do whatever the hell he wants because it's his server. If you can't deal with that please go play elsewhere.

It is definitely his sand box, you are correct. His way or the highway.

[Tenlaar]

And before all you people say OMG there was rotations on live, those were rotations when velious, at the least, was already in place. A time when there was more than 17 raid mobs.

I posted waybacks of my server's planar rotations in the Kunark era a week or two ago. False.

[Lazie]

You can still compete for mobs without training other guilds into oblivion.

Which is exactly how classic raiding was. You could not grief and train people. There were other things you couldn't do that you can here but those 2 are the only ones that really is way out of touch with the way this game was played in the classic era.

[Splorf22]

We get it, loraen. It's an emulated server. People like you push so hard for classic, but only if it's benefitting you. I don't know about you, but i clearly remember one guild dominating content in classic. Why do you think instancing was made in the first place? And before all you people say OMG there was rotations on live, those were rotations when velious, at the least, was already in place. A time when there was more than 17 raid mobs.

Strange post to me.

First, it's not clear to me that I'll get more pixels in a TMO-less world. Quite a few things I never managed to buy from you guys.

Second, if I'm an asshole because I push for classic policies like no trains in vp, no variance, and repops that happen to benefit me, what does that make you? You are pushing for non-classic policies like variance and trains in VP because they benefit you. So I think you are on shaky ground there.

Finally, the idea that we have to change the mechanics until we can get a dominant guild is just beyond dumb.

[carli]

can you flame people please go to RNF. you've had your turn, let the rest of the p99 community have some fun now.

[Barkingturtle]

We get it, loraen. It's an emulated server. People like you push so hard for classic, but only if it's benefitting you. I don't know about you, but i clearly remember one guild dominating content in classic. Why do you think instancing was made in the first place? And before all you people say OMG there was rotations on live, those were rotations when velious, at the least, was already in place. A time when there was more than 17 raid mobs.

I also remember back in 2000 when my batphone would wake me up at 4am to log on my third raid alt and kill the dragon! Even at the time, I knew it was classic.

[Itap]

Agreed, GMs should have mandate to treat players however they choose. Let's start banning everyone who kills Trak like more than 10 times, cuz that's just like...selfish. Oh just hit 60? Well you were mean to this one guy in MM while raiding Black Dire at lvl 38 so perma ban makes sense. Half of guild use MQ? De-level to 52, get PL'd back in AE skyfire in 2 days, no guild punishment.

10? How many times did TMO kill trak? And how many times did that loot just go to the bank? or sold?

You remained to raid content just so others could not get it. How do you not see the wrong in that?

[Fountree]

10? How many times did TMO kill trak? And how many times did that loot just go to the bank? or sold?

You remained to raid content just so others could not get it. How do you not see the wrong in that?

We had new players coming in and apping who still needed alot of those items for their mains actually. Everyone seems to forget that we were constantly recruiting and gearing new players. How can you make a generalized statement like that? Sure, alot of it rotted or was sold, but that due to our dedication and longevity, the server timeline being greatly extended, not only attributable to greed.

[Lazie]

We had new players coming in and apping who still needed alot of those items for their mains actually. Everyone seems to forget that we were constantly recruiting and gearing new players. How can you make a generalized statement like that? Sure, alot of it rotted or was sold, but that due to our dedication and longevity, the server timeline being greatly extended, not only attributable to greed.

Gearing so many new players while selling those BPs in EC. :rolleyes:

[khanable]

Gearing so many new players while selling those BPs in EC. :rolleyes:

Didn't someone recently state they had 20+ green scales banked? Lol

[Lazie]

And guess what? Almost everyone on server 55+ will most likely obtain a trak BP before velious due to the timeline (besides maybe clerics). So don't worry.

Only if they have the PP to pay TMO. That is where the monopoly comes into play. You guys are killing mobs to make a profit. Not to gear a guild for the most part. This has been proven by your selling boss drops in EC, Selling VP keys, Selling VP loot. You can't defend that, IT HAPPENS. You can't say you do it all just to gear your guild when you are selling these items like they are fungi king drops. Stop trying to defend that, no one is believing it.

[Fountree]

I deleted my post we'll have this discussion outside this thread if you want to keep chatting about it :) feel free to pm me ... This isn't the place.

[Tecmos Deception]

We know it all

You know this isn't even close to the truth :p

[Lazie]

I deleted my post we'll have this discussion outside this thread if you want to keep chatting about it :) This isn't the place.

Agreed. Sorry.

[radditsu]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yCRToo7VVWc&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DyCRToo7VVWc



I love you Peter Griffin

[-Catherin-]

Considering the new raid agreement we have among the guilds, and assuming it works out, this has been a great week for the server. Really happy to see this.

[JayN]

Rogean will be gone for months in a matter of a week or two gl to all parties and their agreements.

Sounds great in theory

[sanforce]

Fixed that for you

Duping, RMTing, and whining did not keep TMO alive for so long. 2 people duped, 2 RMTd (that I'm aware of) in our history. Those are individuals, not the entire guild. People paying crazy prices for BPs and loot made the guild banks rich, it had nothing to do with any duping. If we had unlimited plat, our guild bank would have been buying whatever we wanted for our alts. We had a lot of PP, but not unlimited.

[radditsu]

Duping, RMTing, and whining did not keep TMO alive for so long. 2 people duped, 2 RMTd (that I'm aware of) in our history. Those are individuals, not the entire guild. People paying crazy prices for BPs and loot made the guild banks rich, it had nothing to do with any duping. If we had unlimited plat, our guild bank would have been buying whatever we wanted for our alts. We had a lot of PP, but not unlimited.

I wish I could troll this here

[Colgate]

training in VP was literally the only interesting thing about either of these servers

[Yapas]

training in VP was literally the only interesting thing about either of these servers

[Bamz4l]

http://i.imgur.com/XWzi1n6.png

[Lazie]

http://i.imgur.com/XWzi1n6.png

All guilds that want to kill other players to win Dragon Loot need Apply IMHO.

[Littlegyno 10.0]

Rogean should force these faggot blue guilds to have a rotation.

[Reguiy]

In a matter of 3 days we went from FE/IB accusing TMO of corruption and dealing with the staff, to ex-tmo accusing FE/IB of the exact same thing. This has been a great week.

Oh ya, that no training thing is cool too.

[Buriedpast]

While I am sad to see VP training go (definitely the most fun to be had after 3 years of Kunark, for me anyways), it will be interesting to see where this change takes us.

I wonder what the staff at the time of the non-csr policy's introduction thought would happen with training allowed. Pretty much everyone I knew thought only TR would ever get kills in VP as a result.

Hey Jeremy,

TR would of been in VP, got the loot they want, and left VP. Had VP of been opened in a timely manner. TR never had a huge roster, they ran on much much lower numbers than most guilds. TR could of geared out their characters and left the server or gone on hiatus happy in the knowledge of server firsts being ticked and characters ready for velious. Not farmed it for their alt, or 2nd alt like TMO has.

Remember please that TR had 40+ VP keys before TMO had 1 VP key. TR had a full raid force ready for VP before TMO had their first Trak kill, and while TMO would still wipe quite reliably on a fear break in.

So one can sympathise with your post, of course TR would get all the VP dragon kills. However until Amelinda and Uthgaard were corrupt to the point of so many TR leaving the server, that TR could hardly field a raid for Trakanon anymore and TMO started getting kills. Give it another 12 months after that yet, and when TMO had enough keys VP was opened. Coincidentally possibly of course, but it did smell fishy.

So what resulted was a server first Phara Dar for TR, which was nice, and then an opportunity to see a well overdue velious and leave uthgaard and amelinda behind with EQ mac. TR left all of their gear, chars and everything else to see and conqour velious.

Remember while TR left all and everything behind and happily just left, TMO's propoganda machine went into overdrive with 'running TR off the server' (TR ran themselves off the server the moment Amelinda and Uthgaard went psychotic and seemingly Amelinda was accepting real life payments from at least one TMO member as all would find out later); and while TR levelled new characters and explored velious and had a great time from all reports, it seems TMO went on a farm spree in VP whilst also cockblocking the entire server on all other spawns, and a mass buyup of characters including at least a dozen IBTR ex toons of people who cashed out when their guild left.

One can surmise that at this point, maybe you should of farmed VP for a while, opened up the lions share of encounters to other guilds.

Now, I am in IB. I have been since the moment I joined the server. I enjoy healthy competition. But, the competition TMO gives is not healthy competition.

It is poisonous, nefarious, childish and insulting to think that TMO gives an honest competition. Having 4+ raiding characters, a 150 person roster of characters parked at:
Plane of Fear
Veshans peak
*Pullers and rogues parked at every lava tunnel in VP for each dragon
Timorous Deep
Trakanons Lair
Emerald Jungle

Is not competition, and it is definitely not welcome behaviour on the server to anyone but yourselves. When so many of those characters were bought with RL money from IB gentlemen who we now see so often at various mobs camped out, then we have a problem.

How do you compete with TMO, who for every single active member at every timezone, from years of zerg recruiting (I used to be solicited for guild on my level 40 alts quite often in the early 2012/late 2011 era), and RMTing geared raid characters, has an option of 4+ mains to play camped at each given encounter...

The answer is difficult, the fact we still compete is a triumph. Noone can argue your position as top dog. But a humble crew of folk would of got their loot and opened the server up for others, like our original intention. 80% of IB are still waiting on velious, after killing phara dar once. They dont care one bit for crowns and sow swords. Just in the killshot.. During the original VP rotation, on the 2nd weak, almost all of the IB that returned for VP opening, didnt show up. Thats how much IB does not care about loot.

So TMO has shown a real class in dominating VP, and all of the rest of the raid encounters. Its like an extreme case of middle child syndrome, who takes and takes to make up for an upbringing of scraps and hand me downs, never learning humility, and lacking a goal in the game.

If TMO had a goal, that was to kill mobs, then you would not all be suspended, banned, disbanded and crying to IB folk in tells. IBTR had, and has a goal. Server firsts, minor farming, and leave and chill.

Please learn some humility, for the sake of the servers health.

For years, I have asked TMO members for rotations, rezzed your clerics after your wipes to faydedar, fear breakins etc. I have asked to stop the poopsocking with many different methods. But you guys have one goal, as much loot as possible to support a 150+ person roster, and it has been alleged an RMT agenda. To hell with anyone else, has been TMO's M.O.

Now, Rogean doesnt want people like that in his playground, he has made this clear.

What are TMO to do now?

Well, lets look at the last 24 hours:

1. TMO disbands for the most part
2. TMO members start accepting invites to <Lord Dojo>, <The Alliance>, <Tartysomething french>, <Fuck the Noise> (how the fuck does a GM make that for you, corruption much with guides or GM's Knix?), and even (this is hilarious) <Forceful Entry>.

3. TMO members now talking to us sayign theyre camped out at raid targets unguilded on some toons to ignore the raid suspension and disrupt the server or others.
4. TMO members across three guilds approaching other guilds to have 3 slots in a raid rotation. LOL
5. TBA...im sure some more juicy shit will happen as every hour passes.

I like a lot of guys in TMO however, Jeremy you have always been a good laugh, and when your head isnt in your arse a solid pal to have fun with. Necrious is arguably one of the coolest guys on the server, and the list goes on. But the attitude as a whole, and the blatant disregard for anyone not TMO on the entire server has reached boiling point.

Noone here wants you.
Rogean and Nilbog have displayed they do not want you.

IB and FE have instigated a rotation in which we are one guild, (as to share the server more fairly, as our 1-2 characters each are already happily geared enough to enter velious).

I just hope you guys can come to terms with the facts, stop blaming everyone but yourselves, appologise, reform, trim the fat and forum trolls such as yourself and let the cool guys in TMO with integrity and spine continue to play on a new PNP server we've all been blessed with the opportunity to create.

I welcome you all, non douchebag TMO, to Project 1999 PNP. One raid rotation slot though lads.

Motec.

[kaev]

Didn't you know, whining works well on this server. It's the new #1 strategy to get raid mobs and pixels.

Dude, you've been whining on these forum non-stop for the last couple days, so I guess you must know what you're talking about. When I played EVE Online the motto was "adapt or die" when the rules changed, you and your cronies are making it crystal clear that TMO's motto is "adapt or whine".

tl;dr
Don't go away mad, just go away.

[Rogean]

Can we get nilbog to weigh in?

You might find it hard to believe but nilbog is weighed into pretty much every major decision in this server, including the VP Rule change, including every single thing that went into the announcement 3 days ago, along with most of the CSR Staff.

Just because I'm the one that posted it, doesn't mean I'm the only one making the decisions.

[Rellapse36]

Pras Rogean finally making the server fun

PLZ DO THE SAME TO RED

[pharmakos]

Pras Rogean finally making the server fun

^^^

i can't imagine that 4AM batphones for 30second fights are fun to anyone, not even the pixel addicts that have been doing it for the past two years.

what we need is a rotation.




when velious opens and the fights are actually challenging even if you can spawn a 40man raid force at the drop of a hat, then yeah, FTE and variance.

but we've been stuck in kunark for a long ass time. its time to give the meek a chance.

[Tann]

Hey Jeremy, etc..

I don't know you and I'm a total nobody here but damn fine stuff sir

[Splorf22]

Motec, don't you think its slightly contradictory to keep talking about the IB 'gentlemen' who RMTed out?

[Rellapse36]

I am a gentleman.

[pharmakos]

Motec, don't you think its slightly contradictory to keep talking about the IB 'gentlemen' who RMTed out?

lol

you make a good point, but if we're talking about the lesser of two evils -- RMTing out when you quit is more forgivable than RMTing as a lifestyle.

[Buriedpast]

Motec, don't you think its slightly contradictory to keep talking about the IB 'gentlemen' who RMTed out?

Possibly.

Sorry I wont make this RNF material though.

Edited.

[feanan]

This thread really neeeds a mod.

[Hitpoint]

how coincidental! Grats IB/FE on not having to deal with those pesky trains!

I know I'm late to this, and I'm not going to read this whole thread. But there is nothing coincidental about it. This wasn't done to help us in VP. FE/IB implemented this idea first, and we were trying to get it to be a permanent policy now that TMO is gone. GMs likely saw what our intentions were and agreed with it. This is a post by our guild leader:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131739

[Orruar]

This thread really neeeds a mod.

Mods aren't allowed in VP

[uygi]

Phara Dar engages Myuharin!
Server first.

[Alarti0001]

tr was the merging of 2 already-merged guilds in an attempt to outzerg a zerg.

stop revising.

Soon as your revision is accurate.

[uygi]

All of the raid guild merges were all zerg one-ups really.

[Mag]

Just sayin'

[radditsu]

Server first.

You deserve it <3

[hatelore]

All prays Rogean, God of p1999!

[hatelore]

Funny how all the Tmhoes are crying, lol. sweeet tears.

[hatelore]

Hey Jeremy,

TR would of been in VP, got the loot they want, and left VP. Had VP of been opened in a timely manner. TR never had a huge roster, they ran on much much lower numbers than most guilds. TR could of geared out their characters and left the server or gone on hiatus happy in the knowledge of server firsts being ticked and characters ready for velious. Not farmed it for their alt, or 2nd alt like TMO has.

Remember please that TR had 40+ VP keys before TMO had 1 VP key. TR had a full raid force ready for VP before TMO had their first Trak kill, and while TMO would still wipe quite reliably on a fear break in.

So one can sympathise with your post, of course TR would get all the VP dragon kills. However until Amelinda and Uthgaard were corrupt to the point of so many TR leaving the server, that TR could hardly field a raid for Trakanon anymore and TMO started getting kills. Give it another 12 months after that yet, and when TMO had enough keys VP was opened. Coincidentally possibly of course, but it did smell fishy.

So what resulted was a server first Phara Dar for TR, which was nice, and then an opportunity to see a well overdue velious and leave uthgaard and amelinda behind with EQ mac. TR left all of their gear, chars and everything else to see and conqour velious.

Remember while TR left all and everything behind and happily just left, TMO's propoganda machine went into overdrive with 'running TR off the server' (TR ran themselves off the server the moment Amelinda and Uthgaard went psychotic and seemingly Amelinda was accepting real life payments from at least one TMO member as all would find out later); and while TR levelled new characters and explored velious and had a great time from all reports, it seems TMO went on a farm spree in VP whilst also cockblocking the entire server on all other spawns, and a mass buyup of characters including at least a dozen IBTR ex toons of people who cashed out when their guild left.

One can surmise that at this point, maybe you should of farmed VP for a while, opened up the lions share of encounters to other guilds.

Now, I am in IB. I have been since the moment I joined the server. I enjoy healthy competition. But, the competition TMO gives is not healthy competition.

It is poisonous, nefarious, childish and insulting to think that TMO gives an honest competition. Having 4+ raiding characters, a 150 person roster of characters parked at:
Plane of Fear
Veshans peak
*Pullers and rogues parked at every lava tunnel in VP for each dragon
Timorous Deep
Trakanons Lair
Emerald Jungle

Is not competition, and it is definitely not welcome behaviour on the server to anyone but yourselves. When so many of those characters were bought with RL money from IB gentlemen who we now see so often at various mobs camped out, then we have a problem.

How do you compete with TMO, who for every single active member at every timezone, from years of zerg recruiting (I used to be solicited for guild on my level 40 alts quite often in the early 2012/late 2011 era), and RMTing geared raid characters, has an option of 4+ mains to play camped at each given encounter...

The answer is difficult, the fact we still compete is a triumph. Noone can argue your position as top dog. But a humble crew of folk would of got their loot and opened the server up for others, like our original intention. 80% of IB are still waiting on velious, after killing phara dar once. They dont care one bit for crowns and sow swords. Just in the killshot.. During the original VP rotation, on the 2nd weak, almost all of the IB that returned for VP opening, didnt show up. Thats how much IB does not care about loot.

So TMO has shown a real class in dominating VP, and all of the rest of the raid encounters. Its like an extreme case of middle child syndrome, who takes and takes to make up for an upbringing of scraps and hand me downs, never learning humility, and lacking a goal in the game.

If TMO had a goal, that was to kill mobs, then you would not all be suspended, banned, disbanded and crying to IB folk in tells. IBTR had, and has a goal. Server firsts, minor farming, and leave and chill.

Please learn some humility, for the sake of the servers health.

For years, I have asked TMO members for rotations, rezzed your clerics after your wipes to faydedar, fear breakins etc. I have asked to stop the poopsocking with many different methods. But you guys have one goal, as much loot as possible to support a 150+ person roster, and it has been alleged an RMT agenda. To hell with anyone else, has been TMO's M.O.

Now, Rogean doesnt want people like that in his playground, he has made this clear.

What are TMO to do now?

Well, lets look at the last 24 hours:

1. TMO disbands for the most part
2. TMO members start accepting invites to <Lord Dojo>, <The Alliance>, <Tartysomething french>, <Fuck the Noise> (how the fuck does a GM make that for you, corruption much with guides or GM's Knix?), and even (this is hilarious) <Forceful Entry>.

3. TMO members now talking to us sayign theyre camped out at raid targets unguilded on some toons to ignore the raid suspension and disrupt the server or others.
4. TMO members across three guilds approaching other guilds to have 3 slots in a raid rotation. LOL
5. TBA...im sure some more juicy shit will happen as every hour passes.

I like a lot of guys in TMO however, Jeremy you have always been a good laugh, and when your head isnt in your arse a solid pal to have fun with. Necrious is arguably one of the coolest guys on the server, and the list goes on. But the attitude as a whole, and the blatant disregard for anyone not TMO on the entire server has reached boiling point.

Noone here wants you.
Rogean and Nilbog have displayed they do not want you.

IB and FE have instigated a rotation in which we are one guild, (as to share the server more fairly, as our 1-2 characters each are already happily geared enough to enter velious).

I just hope you guys can come to terms with the facts, stop blaming everyone but yourselves, appologise, reform, trim the fat and forum trolls such as yourself and let the cool guys in TMO with integrity and spine continue to play on a new PNP server we've all been blessed with the opportunity to create.

I welcome you all, non douchebag TMO, to Project 1999 PNP. One raid rotation slot though lads.

Motec.

/clap. Pretty damn good post there, tldr, but worth the read.

[Alarti0001]

Hey Jeremy,

TR would of been in VP, got the loot they want, and left VP. Had VP of been opened in a timely manner. TR never had a huge roster, they ran on much much lower numbers than most guilds. TR could of geared out their characters and left the server or gone on hiatus happy in the knowledge of server firsts being ticked and characters ready for velious. Not farmed it for their alt, or 2nd alt like TMO has.

Remember please that TR had 40+ VP keys before TMO had 1 VP key. TR had a full raid force ready for VP before TMO had their first Trak kill, and while TMO would still wipe quite reliably on a fear break in.

So one can sympathise with your post, of course TR would get all the VP dragon kills. However until Amelinda and Uthgaard were corrupt to the point of so many TR leaving the server, that TR could hardly field a raid for Trakanon anymore and TMO started getting kills. Give it another 12 months after that yet, and when TMO had enough keys VP was opened. Coincidentally possibly of course, but it did smell fishy.

So what resulted was a server first Phara Dar for TR, which was nice, and then an opportunity to see a well overdue velious and leave uthgaard and amelinda behind with EQ mac. TR left all of their gear, chars and everything else to see and conqour velious.

Remember while TR left all and everything behind and happily just left, TMO's propoganda machine went into overdrive with 'running TR off the server' (TR ran themselves off the server the moment Amelinda and Uthgaard went psychotic and seemingly Amelinda was accepting real life payments from at least one TMO member as all would find out later); and while TR levelled new characters and explored velious and had a great time from all reports, it seems TMO went on a farm spree in VP whilst also cockblocking the entire server on all other spawns, and a mass buyup of characters including at least a dozen IBTR ex toons of people who cashed out when their guild left.

One can surmise that at this point, maybe you should of farmed VP for a while, opened up the lions share of encounters to other guilds.

Now, I am in IB. I have been since the moment I joined the server. I enjoy healthy competition. But, the competition TMO gives is not healthy competition.

It is poisonous, nefarious, childish and insulting to think that TMO gives an honest competition. Having 4+ raiding characters, a 150 person roster of characters parked at:
Plane of Fear
Veshans peak
*Pullers and rogues parked at every lava tunnel in VP for each dragon
Timorous Deep
Trakanons Lair
Emerald Jungle

Is not competition, and it is definitely not welcome behaviour on the server to anyone but yourselves. When so many of those characters were bought with RL money from IB gentlemen who we now see so often at various mobs camped out, then we have a problem.

How do you compete with TMO, who for every single active member at every timezone, from years of zerg recruiting (I used to be solicited for guild on my level 40 alts quite often in the early 2012/late 2011 era), and RMTing geared raid characters, has an option of 4+ mains to play camped at each given encounter...

The answer is difficult, the fact we still compete is a triumph. Noone can argue your position as top dog. But a humble crew of folk would of got their loot and opened the server up for others, like our original intention. 80% of IB are still waiting on velious, after killing phara dar once. They dont care one bit for crowns and sow swords. Just in the killshot.. During the original VP rotation, on the 2nd weak, almost all of the IB that returned for VP opening, didnt show up. Thats how much IB does not care about loot.

So TMO has shown a real class in dominating VP, and all of the rest of the raid encounters. Its like an extreme case of middle child syndrome, who takes and takes to make up for an upbringing of scraps and hand me downs, never learning humility, and lacking a goal in the game.

If TMO had a goal, that was to kill mobs, then you would not all be suspended, banned, disbanded and crying to IB folk in tells. IBTR had, and has a goal. Server firsts, minor farming, and leave and chill.

Please learn some humility, for the sake of the servers health.

For years, I have asked TMO members for rotations, rezzed your clerics after your wipes to faydedar, fear breakins etc. I have asked to stop the poopsocking with many different methods. But you guys have one goal, as much loot as possible to support a 150+ person roster, and it has been alleged an RMT agenda. To hell with anyone else, has been TMO's M.O.

Now, Rogean doesnt want people like that in his playground, he has made this clear.

What are TMO to do now?

Well, lets look at the last 24 hours:

1. TMO disbands for the most part
2. TMO members start accepting invites to <Lord Dojo>, <The Alliance>, <Tartysomething french>, <Fuck the Noise> (how the fuck does a GM make that for you, corruption much with guides or GM's Knix?), and even (this is hilarious) <Forceful Entry>.

3. TMO members now talking to us sayign theyre camped out at raid targets unguilded on some toons to ignore the raid suspension and disrupt the server or others.
4. TMO members across three guilds approaching other guilds to have 3 slots in a raid rotation. LOL
5. TBA...im sure some more juicy shit will happen as every hour passes.

I like a lot of guys in TMO however, Jeremy you have always been a good laugh, and when your head isnt in your arse a solid pal to have fun with. Necrious is arguably one of the coolest guys on the server, and the list goes on. But the attitude as a whole, and the blatant disregard for anyone not TMO on the entire server has reached boiling point.

Noone here wants you.
Rogean and Nilbog have displayed they do not want you.

IB and FE have instigated a rotation in which we are one guild, (as to share the server more fairly, as our 1-2 characters each are already happily geared enough to enter velious).

I just hope you guys can come to terms with the facts, stop blaming everyone but yourselves, appologise, reform, trim the fat and forum trolls such as yourself and let the cool guys in TMO with integrity and spine continue to play on a new PNP server we've all been blessed with the opportunity to create.

I welcome you all, non douchebag TMO, to Project 1999 PNP. One raid rotation slot though lads.

Motec.

LOL IB's tears when they left the server put this whole post to the lie.

[Widan]

LOL IB's tears when they left the server put this whole post to the lie.

Why is this guy still allowed to post on the forums? His posts have been 100% shit posts in every section. Start moderating please.

[sanforce]

LOL IB's tears when they left the server put this whole post to the lie.

welcome back to the forums alarti's real account!

[Alarti0001]

Why is this guy still allowed to post on the forums? His posts have been 100% shit posts in every section. Start moderating please.

^^^ This is a shit post. I just point out when people are lying.

[baramur]

Alartidardi. Sigh. Doesn't want to share the sandbox, even when hes shit in it. Must be hurting inside that server is so much better without tmo shitting on the raid scene. I bet your the kid who wouldn't share his birthday cake at his own birthday party.

[Clark]

Thank you been waiting for this.

[Awwalike]

tmo gonna see the sun for the first time in years

[thugcruncher]

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-26-2013/tpfBiT.gif

[Rhambuk]

Awesome!

Awesome awesome awesome. even though I may never see the inside of vp on this server its nice to know that its not just some shitshow of training and BS.

Thank you rogaen !

[Buriedpast]

edited. cbf. not worth my time

[Aaron]

You keep using "of" where you should use "have."

[JayN]

all these guilds must be just moping VP up vp loots with out the horrible bad TMO training them; rofl.

GG

[Triangle]

all these guilds must be just moping VP up vp loots with out the horrible bad TMO training them; rofl.

GG

mad......bro?