Old-school Live drama: GMs Gone Wild

[frefaln]

Not sure what made me think of this, but this morning I was reminded of a story I'd heard back in the Live days. I don't claim to know the specifics but it was something to the effect of: a Live GM went berserk and started summoning boatloads people to a zone (ToV perhaps?), binding them, and putting them into a death loop.

I've been Googling but not having much luck thus far. Anyone remember this and/or have details? Any other juicy GM-gone-mad stories of lore to share?

[Straif]

I've heard stories similar in nature but never a first hand account.
I always wondered if something like that ever happened.

[Mixelplix]

Someone definitely summoned people to VP, I remember seeing pictures of it.

-Des

[jeffd]

i remember something like that happening at least once, but can't remember any specific details.

speaking of drama, anyone remember the Ask Milo website?

[Lazortag]

Generally when people get authority they get a little but stupider.

[Bubbles]

i remember something like that happening at least once, but can't remember any specific details.

speaking of drama, anyone remember the Ask Milo website?

Yup, and let's not forget Tweety Rant!

http://web.archive.org/web/20010414021753/tweety.bowlofmice.com/tweety/try_being_a_guide.html

[Aprio]

there was aGuide called Tweety who lost it and posted a rant, funny stuff. She entitled it: Try Being A Guide, You Nutless Assmuncher

Here's some background - I've been a guide since March. I took a month off in protest of some seriously fucked up guide policies, and a total lack of communciation between VI and their customer service staff. I came back to discover Verant got their shit together, and now it's the players that suck. Some of you assholes are up way past your bedtime.

Get a clue, pissants - Neither I, nor anyone else breathing actually gives a shit about how so and so stole your orc. Furthermore, no one cares that you lost the roll for whatever piece of crap weapon, because guess what? In five levels that piece of trash will be on your fourth twink and you'll be complaining about some other l33t weapon. (Note to a_pissant00: DO you know how retarded you sound petitioning over how you were ripped off AFTER YOU ROLLED FOR IT AND LOST? What the fuck do you think I'm going to do? That's right, genius, I'm going to ask your group TO ROLL FOR THE ITEM. If you already rolled, I'm not going to do anything but ROLL my eyes and curse the malformed sperm that somehow beat out all the healthy ones and created you in some horrible genetic accident.)

Next, the guide rezz. NOBODY over level 20 should be confused or surprised by the incredibly limited powers a guide has. I can rezz you if 1) You zoned into lava, 2) Died due to Verant crashing (not you and your dial up, VERANT), and 3) Died to a confirmed bug. Otherwise, I can't do it. I would love to, but I can't. I have died to plenty of un-confirmed bugs myself, I know it sucks, and I still can't do it. It's not all about you and how I hate you because you aren't in an uber guild. Guess what, moron? I DON'T PLAY ON YOUR SERVER. I do not know, nor do I give two shits about the status of the guilds on your server. >Elite Cockjockeys< and >: Lords of Jizz< means exactly the same to me - NOTHING. I rezz every single person I can, because I know exactly how much losing a week's worth of work to something not my fault sucks. If I don't rezz you, it isn't personal. So shut the fuck up about how I would have done it if you were a member of >Dancing Dickbeaters<.

Let's move on to sending tells to a guide. I logged in tonight to find myself the only guide with count 'em FORTY petitions waiting to be answered. Sorry, Mr. I can't find my super twinked body and I'm only level 2 and a forty minute walk to my corpse. Not only do people like you disgust me on general principles, but the guy who's been waiting for three hours stuck on a gate in Permafrost TAKES PRIORITY OVER YOU. Read the rules, dipshit. I take calls by petition, not by your sad sack tell of woe. And cussing at me, screaming at me, and telling me what a rotten person I am makes me accidentally camp out when I finally clear the monster backup and get to your whiny ass. Don't send me tells, assholes. The ten minutes I end up wasting asking you nicely to send a petition (or if you sent one, the twenty minutes I spend telling you it's not your turn yet) means that much longer of a wait.

Play nice policies. My personal feelings aside (lay off the wacky weed, Verant), I get to enforce it. Do you know how much I hate you at the end of a long shift? What kind of asshole thinks the king room in Lower Guk can be shared by TWO GROUPS OF 12? Conversely, what kind of screaming cocksucker thinks it's okay to camp the king room for 36 hours? I think you both suck. The only people lamer than you are the ones that PNP over derv camps in North Ro and then act surprised when I send one group to the DESERTED derv camp a 30 second walk away.

Boats. Hey, Einstein, before you petition me that the boats are broken, do an /ooc and find out when the boat left. If it was two minutes ago, IT'S NOT HERE YET.

Quests. All I have to say to you phat lewt motherfuckers who have wrecked every quest I've been involved in is grow up, shut up, go back to Quake or whatever blow shit up video game you came from, and get the fuck away from the quest area. It's your ten bucks, go somewhere and kill stuff. Why the hell do you feel compelled to ruin the once every blue moon event we have for the seven people (who ALSO pay the ten bucks) who actually want to role play?

Illiterate people. I am NOT talking about the English as a second language kids. I go through those slowly and calmly, and more than once I've resorted to typing /ooc Anyone in this zone speak BOTH Japanese and English? By illiterate, I mean you fucking cretins who send me petitions that read "Ur gona get my coprse rezzed, plz." What the hell am I, psychic? How did you die, where did you die, and so on is stuff I need. If you tell me in a format I can comprehend without calling over my twelve year old neighbor, I will send you a tell that says, "Hang on, let me check out your corpse. Yep, you died to that bug all right. Here's your rezz. Good luck, friend." Your fucking cryptic petitions mean ten minutes of agonizingly rotten typing and stupidity that have me wondering where the hell I left my universal translator. Plus, any petition I get in dewdspeak automatically biases me against you. Why? Because it's the d00ds that are usually trying to snow me, and get something for nothing (like a free rez for a death caused by jumping off a wizard spire with 150 HP), and who feel entitled to absolutely everything.

The only thing more annoying than dewd petitions are the ones that say "Hurp." When I finally discover that "Hurp" means you were duelling someone named Hurp who promised not to use magic in a duel, and it turned out he had a 49th level cleric HP buff up, and you want me to use the broadcast command to tell the world what a cheater he is, I DON'T CARE ANYMORE.

Scumbags. I may not know who the uberguilds are, but I sure as hell know who the scumbags are. You're the one who caused a dozen petitions because you were spamming the zone with "So and so is a faggot." You're the one who trained all the bouncers to the CT entrance just to fuck with the kids inside trying to escape the lizard train your twin brother created on purpose. You're the one who backed a female wood elf character into a corner, calling her names and sending her foul tells. You're the one who tricked the player with poor English skills into believing a trading a GLS for a whatever-piece-of-shit was a good trade because you were giving him a lore item. I know you. Don't get all fucking bent because I told the GM not to change your name and let you duck your reputation. Don't be shocked that I never rule in your favor in PNP situations. And don't waste your time crying to another guide about how I hate you, because there are only six guides on the entire server who show up for work, and we talk.

Speaking of the aforementioned female wood elf and other forms of sexual harassment - there are two sides to this one as well. It happens. It happens a lot. Unsolicited tells, really truly disgusting emotes, and situations in which one lonely knob beater chases a female avatar from West Freeport to Emerald Jungle - it HAPPENS. You people sicken me. That said, I have very little sympathy for the person behind a character named Likkmebrestesses who types /em wants to have some fun with the brawny barbarian! and then complains when said barbarian asks if she'd like to go cyber in the hidden inn. Or my favorite, the gnomes who petition when someone says "You're the perfect height... for a b.... eer." Get a sense of humor already. You make it harder for people actually being harassed.

If my little hissy fit keeps ONE SINGLE IDIOT from sending a petition because he's going to get laughed at, I did something good today. I sure as hell feel better.

[Aprio]

Bah bubbles beat me to it!

[Chodan]

That happened on Terris Thule to <Valon> or was it CTV? I dont exactly remember, I was asleep when it happened. Thank god.

[VictoryARC]

That rant is full of WIN

[Dukat]

And on the next episode of EQ: COPS we crack down on illicit drug sales in the streets of West Freeport...

[Bubbles]

Tweety (Sanya Thomas) went on to be the head PR person for Mythic when they made Dark Age of Camelot, iirc. Fun times.

[Heebee]

That happened on Terris Thule to <Valon> or was it CTV? I dont exactly remember, I was asleep when it happened. Thank god.

Yeah it was on Terris Thule, a rogue GM decided to summon about 10 lvl 60s under a dragon in Veeshan's Peak early in Kunark - at a time when there were very few 60s, and no one had VP keys.

I was one of the fortunate ones to be summoned in. I was literally plucked from my group in Charasis, and dumped in VP to die.

[Noser]

Lols. I was on terris-thule but don't recall that

[Allizia]

Omg, I'm in love

That's right, genius, I'm going to ask your group TO ROLL FOR THE ITEM. If you already rolled, I'm not going to do anything but ROLL my eyes and curse the malformed sperm that somehow beat out all the healthy ones and created you in some horrible genetic accident.)

By illiterate, I mean you fucking cretins who send me petitions that read "Ur gona get my coprse rezzed, plz." What the hell am I, psychic? How did you die, where did you die, and so on is stuff I need. If you tell me in a format I can comprehend without calling over my twelve year old neighbor, I will send you a tell that says, "Hang on, let me check out your corpse. Yep, you died to that bug all right. Here's your rezz. Good luck, friend." Your fucking cryptic petitions mean ten minutes of agonizingly rotten typing and stupidity that have me wondering where the hell I left my universal translator

If I don't rezz you, it isn't personal. So shut the fuck up about how I would have done it if you were a member of >Dancing Dickbeaters<.

[Remfin]

EverQuest Guide Kills Characters (http://pc.ign.com/articles/088/088149p1.html) -- "Monday night at about 10:30 PST one of the EverQuest Guides on the Terris Thule server snapped..."

Except like Heebee said it was more like 10 people and I don't think anyone was bound (I think the first GM who tried to clean-up the mess accidentally summoned people in and got them killed again, hence the confusion).

[Heebee]

EverQuest Guide Kills Characters (http://pc.ign.com/articles/088/088149p1.html) -- "Monday night at about 10:30 PST one of the EverQuest Guides on the Terris Thule server snapped..."

Except like Heebee said it was more like 10 people and I don't think anyone was bound (I think the first GM who tried to clean-up the mess accidentally summoned people in and got them killed again, hence the confusion).

Yeah no one was bound, we were just dumped in there to die, and then left naked wondering who the fuck we'd ever retrieve our corpses. It was a lot longer than an hour before we got summoned back to our bodies though!

[Flicka]

AHAHhahahahahaha!!! >Dancing Dickbeaters< :D

[Bubbles]

AHAHhahahahahaha!!! >Dancing Dickbeaters< :D

<Elite Cockjockeys> still makes me laugh to this day every time i read that. :)

[eqdruid76]

Tweety's rant gives me a raging semi- every single time I read it.

[Aeolwind]

The event in question was a Senior or Elder guide decided it would be "fun" to summon people into VP on the bridge. His timing was good, he almost always managed to get them there about the time a dragon was coming through. But fear not, he was near the racnars on the far side! So you died anyway.

He called it a GM event. Verant called him "fired" and banned lol.

There are screenshots out there somewhere too that the guide took.

Edit:
I remember there being a LOT more than 10 bodies in those shots lol.

[Heebee]

The event in question was a Senior or Elder guide decided it would be "fun" to summon people into VP on the bridge. His timing was good, he almost always managed to get them there about the time a dragon was coming through. But fear not, he was near the racnars on the far side! So you died anyway.

He called it a GM event. Verant called him "fired" and banned lol.

There are screenshots out there somewhere too that the guide took.

Edit:
I remember there being a LOT more than 10 bodies in those shots lol.

Yeah I was pretty shocked when I was killed by a racnar. I definitely wasn't bound in there - I was just left sitting in FV wondering what the fuck just happened. I guess someone else might have been bound though. ;-)

[Heebee]

http://brokentoys.org/1999/12/31/absor-on-terris-rogue-guide-author-lum/

[Heebee]

ABSOR ON TERRIS’ ROGUE GUIDE [Author: lum]

by Scott Jennings on December 31, 1999

As an update to the story earlier on a guide on Terris-Thule summoning folks to certain death in Veeshan’s Peak, Alan “Absor” VanCouvering commented on EQ’s official boards today.

It seems that one of the Guides on the Terris-Thule server summoned several players into Veeshan’s Peak and bound them there. This caused them to die and respawn in the same spot. This could have caused them to die several times.

We have logs of the incident, and we can verify those that were affected. We will be using those logs to help us straighten this out. Of course we will be doing everything we can to rectify the situation to the satisfaction of those that were involved. We are sorry that this happened.

We do our best to accept guides that, well, won’t do this sort of thing. For the most part I think the Guides are a wonderful group of people, and we are all very pleased and grateful for the effort they give on behalf of their fellow players. I certainly hope that this one incident doesn’t give anyone a bad impression of the Guide program or its members.

[Heebee]

WHEN GUIDES ATTACK
Tuesday, November 21, 2000 - 9:17 AM MST [Filed by lum]
Got this note from someone who I presume is now an ex-guide on Terris Thule. Judging from other email I've gotten, yes, someone went postal on Terris last night.

Last night around 10:30pm PST I decided to summon around 20 players to Veeshans Peak and bind them there causing them to die many many times. For the players I didn't get a chance to bind, I continued to summon them over and over until some big nasty GM got mad at me, at which time my internet connection became very unstable and disconnected me *shrug*. Included are some screenshots of the nice event. For those of you Terris players whom I didn't get a chance to bind: Sorry, I will do better next time.

http://web.archive.org/web/20010124072100/http://www.lumthemad.net/news/1507.shtml

[Zereh]

+2

Because I'm an ex-Terris-Thulian and my alma mater was mentioned (CtV).

;) Z

[Abacab-insurection]

It was a sad day when I lost my guide powers...

[Jeice]

Morell Thule was full of overaly happy GM's that at one time would come hang out when we were 1st starting to raid Velious. I remember the lead GM was a Female Bard rogue and used to come in our forums and talk with everyone, Just cant remember that chicks name. I heard plenty of different storries of a few flipping shit and loosing their GM rights, but nothing first person.

[getsome]

MT gms. Ashlanne then Lirus i think.

[Reiker]

Can't remember what server I was playing at the time, but once a GM kept summoning people in the bazaar to the arena and his friends would kill them. Player merchants, everyone.

[Jeice]

MT gms. Ashlanne then Lirus i think.

yup that was it, thanks.

[Rael]

, at which time my internet connection became very unstable and disconnected me *shrug*.

So the other guides had to resort to DDoSing him to stop his rampage?

[Dominick]

MT gms. Ashlanne then Lirus i think.

They were both pretty cool people. I recall I was having young barbs find me in Everfrost, and I was giving them armor and other things I made as prizes, and Lirus showed up to see if I was legit.

[Japan]

So the other guides had to resort to DDoSing him to stop his rampage?

it's a joke about him zoneplugging.

This incident really fucked up guide powers - you had to make it to "senior" guide to have almost any effect on the game after this point. Shit like the summon command was completely disabled, so if there wasn't a GM online and you found someone stuck the best you could do is port in next to them and play cards.

[mimixownzall]

You petition: I demand to have a guild named Dancing Dickbeaters

[Tokum-6n0m3]

On erollisi we had a member of our GM staff die in a wreck or something, the head GM Valtron did a memorial using system messages, during the memorial several people started sending him "good riddance" type tells, all of a sudden the system messages got not so nice, at the time I had made as close of friends as you can with a GM with Valtron and he ended up sitting in oasis talking to me for hours after the whole ordeal was over....its amazing how far some people will push support staff on games...after this happened I was always surprised more incidents like the VP one didn't happen more often.

[XDrake]

Valtron was a good guy. Very busy, but a kind dwarf. :P I remember I went red on EMarr because I had no clue what it was... He gave me a real simple quest to go back to blue. I remember he used to enter zones like GFay and when he was there would make it snow...

[Tiggles]

We pk'd the lead GM on Sullon Zek.

He went LD and got feared by a Dragon and it bugged him out so we killed him and took pictures!

[Estolcles]

We pk'd the lead GM on Sullon Zek.

He went LD and got feared by a Dragon and it bugged him out so we killed him and took pictures!

We want pics!

Also... I remember when they'd make it snow in G-fay (on the Fennin Ro server). It was always awesome. It was maybe once a year or so, but it was awesome.

Actually, I remember they made it snow all over Norrath (except indoor zones and dungeons with no sky visibility) because a blizzard had hit in the US somewhere, and it was where a lot of people were based. It was pretty f'n cool.