Bigazz
01-05-2014, 05:46 AM
Due to have no rigths to post in the Raid forum i will post some thougths here to be at the scrutiny of the trolls.
Staring of with saying that i have been on this server since the start days. Seen most, taken most targets, either live or here. and NOT an American. So as such my spelling or punctuation may be flawed. So for those that are inclined to troll this, go ahead if you feel a need to ridicule this instead of actually reading whats here.....
and to all the " wall of text remarks" from the people with an attention span of a goldfish and intelect at same level. Its your loss, not mine.
The nature of the last few weeks conflicts are somewhat simple....
1 The gms devs support staff etc are tired of sheere amount of petition being result from the last years "competiton" style of raiding.
2 There are some guilds that think they have rigths to all just due to means and as such any and all others not them have rigths to nothing and should get nothing. Regardless of how its done, FTE, rules laywering, traning, sniping etc etc these guilds see themself as "hardcore" and all else as scrubs or carebears.
3 There are other guilds that put in just as many hours as the so called "hardcore" guilds, just as much tracking, just as much focus on resist gear, main or alt camping, mobilization, BUT refuse to take part in a gamestyle they feel are beneath their standards (see number 2). As such often called casuals which is a derogative term and far from the thruth.
4 This has lead to a polarization of minds where most seem to think there is 2 tiers of rading needed which indicate that there will NEVER be a server where all are able to coexcist and have to be separated with rules of conduct.
Well lets think for a few seconds and ask some neccesary questions then....
WHo is this server for ? the 2 guilds ? for all ? for the majority ? Should all be allowed to see all content nomather what.
As far as im conserned this server is for ALL that participate to simulate the good old days many years after its original timeframe and to deliver its best rendition of how it was then with better hardware and information. And as such it is for all.
However that does not mean that all players have the insigth, willpower or ability to participate in all aspects of the content. (aim to be clearing VP with a playtime of 4 hours a week is just a stupid example). However the participants on the raid scene should all be allowed a relativly clean and orderly raid scene where you do you things as a player against the environment without the hazzle of player versus player element. Since this is a blue server after all. Rigth? Wrong ......
Due to the sake of "competiton" near all times a guild does anything in the raid scene here there is friction and animosity from other participants. Traning, leapfroging, sniping, bards pulling dracholiche single with no raidforce in zone, monks sending eyes on ct to start deathcycles to prevent other guilds to get attempts etc. etc. Why?
The big question is this. What is the merit, the benefit of this "competiton" ? does it improve the server? does the mobs die faster? Smoother?
In my humble opinion, no not at all. All it does is create animosity and friction and more work for staff.
This is a cooperative game where a lot of people cometogther and use their online avatar toon to figth the obstacles of the game and beat challenges. As such they also use a lot of comunication and order to fill various roles to face these challenges, be that if its a duo, group, raid or guild politics. There are ofcourse variations of playstyle, and that is not a bad thing. There is more than one way to rome. Yet the overhead goal for all should be to coexist and respect their fellow participants in the system to the best of their ability to further the goal of all. To have fun and participate in a game that they like and enjoy.....
So with all due respect... if you as a person are unable to coexcist and play alongside others in a relatively peacefull way that benefit the majority i suggest go play CS or some other of the newer shooters instead for clearly you are not worthy a spot on this server......
My suggestion to the GMs devs etc. Get rid of em. Why do you allow 10% to dictate the rules for the 90% majority? OR Keep the raid ban active indefintly. No more raid mobs ever until order is restored. The majority been literaly raid banned for 2 3 years already, so its about time the culprits and reason for it feel the pain aswell.
and a end coment to the raid tier system..... That is rotation. And a scewed one that is no where near fair and just. not based on time invested,skill,numbers or anything elgible. Its based on track record and past history. If you are going to implement a system to create order and make it fair then you should look beyond history and instead create a system that IS fair. Regardless of guild status or history. The reason this is even contemplated now is due to a couple guilds consecutive greed over years. So instead of rewarding this.... how about strike down hard and harsh and say " no more".
A fair rotation system for all guilds on this server is long overdue and as far as i am concerned the only method of salvaging this. Yes it will drive of some elements of the people that have thrived of the system until now. But we are better of without them. Frankly if you answer this with "no we wont force 2 guilds to concesions of raid targets to allow the remainder 90% of the server a fair shoot" then consider this ... you have forced consesions for the majority of the server for years. Why the hell is it not due time to recitify this situation and create some order and stability to the raid scene? This is an oportunity to start a new order of things. Do you have the guts for it or not ?
Send me a tell in game or a PM if you want a full fledged system of order Rogean.
Bigazz.
Staring of with saying that i have been on this server since the start days. Seen most, taken most targets, either live or here. and NOT an American. So as such my spelling or punctuation may be flawed. So for those that are inclined to troll this, go ahead if you feel a need to ridicule this instead of actually reading whats here.....
and to all the " wall of text remarks" from the people with an attention span of a goldfish and intelect at same level. Its your loss, not mine.
The nature of the last few weeks conflicts are somewhat simple....
1 The gms devs support staff etc are tired of sheere amount of petition being result from the last years "competiton" style of raiding.
2 There are some guilds that think they have rigths to all just due to means and as such any and all others not them have rigths to nothing and should get nothing. Regardless of how its done, FTE, rules laywering, traning, sniping etc etc these guilds see themself as "hardcore" and all else as scrubs or carebears.
3 There are other guilds that put in just as many hours as the so called "hardcore" guilds, just as much tracking, just as much focus on resist gear, main or alt camping, mobilization, BUT refuse to take part in a gamestyle they feel are beneath their standards (see number 2). As such often called casuals which is a derogative term and far from the thruth.
4 This has lead to a polarization of minds where most seem to think there is 2 tiers of rading needed which indicate that there will NEVER be a server where all are able to coexcist and have to be separated with rules of conduct.
Well lets think for a few seconds and ask some neccesary questions then....
WHo is this server for ? the 2 guilds ? for all ? for the majority ? Should all be allowed to see all content nomather what.
As far as im conserned this server is for ALL that participate to simulate the good old days many years after its original timeframe and to deliver its best rendition of how it was then with better hardware and information. And as such it is for all.
However that does not mean that all players have the insigth, willpower or ability to participate in all aspects of the content. (aim to be clearing VP with a playtime of 4 hours a week is just a stupid example). However the participants on the raid scene should all be allowed a relativly clean and orderly raid scene where you do you things as a player against the environment without the hazzle of player versus player element. Since this is a blue server after all. Rigth? Wrong ......
Due to the sake of "competiton" near all times a guild does anything in the raid scene here there is friction and animosity from other participants. Traning, leapfroging, sniping, bards pulling dracholiche single with no raidforce in zone, monks sending eyes on ct to start deathcycles to prevent other guilds to get attempts etc. etc. Why?
The big question is this. What is the merit, the benefit of this "competiton" ? does it improve the server? does the mobs die faster? Smoother?
In my humble opinion, no not at all. All it does is create animosity and friction and more work for staff.
This is a cooperative game where a lot of people cometogther and use their online avatar toon to figth the obstacles of the game and beat challenges. As such they also use a lot of comunication and order to fill various roles to face these challenges, be that if its a duo, group, raid or guild politics. There are ofcourse variations of playstyle, and that is not a bad thing. There is more than one way to rome. Yet the overhead goal for all should be to coexist and respect their fellow participants in the system to the best of their ability to further the goal of all. To have fun and participate in a game that they like and enjoy.....
So with all due respect... if you as a person are unable to coexcist and play alongside others in a relatively peacefull way that benefit the majority i suggest go play CS or some other of the newer shooters instead for clearly you are not worthy a spot on this server......
My suggestion to the GMs devs etc. Get rid of em. Why do you allow 10% to dictate the rules for the 90% majority? OR Keep the raid ban active indefintly. No more raid mobs ever until order is restored. The majority been literaly raid banned for 2 3 years already, so its about time the culprits and reason for it feel the pain aswell.
and a end coment to the raid tier system..... That is rotation. And a scewed one that is no where near fair and just. not based on time invested,skill,numbers or anything elgible. Its based on track record and past history. If you are going to implement a system to create order and make it fair then you should look beyond history and instead create a system that IS fair. Regardless of guild status or history. The reason this is even contemplated now is due to a couple guilds consecutive greed over years. So instead of rewarding this.... how about strike down hard and harsh and say " no more".
A fair rotation system for all guilds on this server is long overdue and as far as i am concerned the only method of salvaging this. Yes it will drive of some elements of the people that have thrived of the system until now. But we are better of without them. Frankly if you answer this with "no we wont force 2 guilds to concesions of raid targets to allow the remainder 90% of the server a fair shoot" then consider this ... you have forced consesions for the majority of the server for years. Why the hell is it not due time to recitify this situation and create some order and stability to the raid scene? This is an oportunity to start a new order of things. Do you have the guts for it or not ?
Send me a tell in game or a PM if you want a full fledged system of order Rogean.
Bigazz.