blue raid proposal

[Nizzarr]

Log off your characters at the raid target you want, set up a phone relay with everybody else that shares the same goals.

mob spawn, send phonecall to everybody, everybody log in and kill the raid target.

Repeat until satisfaction is acquired.

This should reward the people that spends the most time in game getting ready for raid targets, which should be the one actually getting them.

You're welcome.

[Raavak]

Raiding on Blue is no longer about time and effort.

[Morgander]

Time and effort means being online to play the game if you ask me. If guilds were somehow forced to actually utilize the player resources that they actually had online at the time of a raid spawn in order to attempt to contest it, most would fail miserably.

The very top guilds arguing their entitlement for raid content on this server is akin to the top 1% richest arguing their entitlement in the business world. Of course they're always going to win over the little guy, because they own the Wal-Marts and McDonalds of the economy, and you can't compete with that because nobody else can match their level of financial independence.

If not for the laws the US federal government imposes to protect people from people with too much money, Bill Gates alone could have single-handedly and utterly monopolized all of the computer industry in the known world. We could all be playing this game on 2,000 dollar computers running 4 gigs of RAM because that's how much they may have cost.

More power comes more power. More riches become more riches. It takes money to make money, and it takes raid power to make raid power. The more gear you have for your guild, the more gear you get.

It starts to become very unabalanced after a while, and that's only one of my points. The other is as I previously stated in several threads: That this whole batphone crap is stupid.

Be a real guild like we were on live back between 1999-2001 and make due with what you have logged in when something spawns.

Win that way, don't call 50 other players who aren't even playing the game so they can log in resources you didn't actually have online at the time of the spawn.

And besides, what I believe a lot of this has really been about for quite some time is this notion that there are guilds out there killing raid targets they don't need, just to ensure nobody else can get them.

I mean, that's like getting a Fungi Tunic and then continuing to camp the King for more, just to destroy them, so nobody else can get any.

There comes a time when those at the top truly do begin to feel more and more entitled. It actually happens in the business world and there are numerous studies depicting this mentality. It happens the more successful an individual gets, where they begin to depreciate the value of other people, depicting them as resources and numbers, and excusing all personal behaviors as appropriately quantifiable in the nature that is "business". No longer are negative acts considered negative in these situations, for they twist from immoral acts to just business.

It's hard to see past your own success after a while to remember that you most probably came from nothing, and it's hard to see other people as deserving of anything, even opportunity, when your only motivator in life is to continue to take more and more for yourself.

[Confit]

Be a real guild like we were on live back between 1999-2001 and make due with what you have logged in when something spawns.

My guild on live, including during 1999-2001, had a batphone via email, messaging services like AIM, and even phone calls to people who were close enough with each other. It wasn't the same as it is now with today's phones except those of us who had a Blackberry back then. But we still reached out to whoever we could to get more people on if we needed to.

Back then it was less about loot and more about not wanting to miss certain raids that were fun.

[Spitty]

I don't like people playing on my phone.

Request denied.

[Velerin]

Log off your characters at the raid target you want, set up a phone relay with everybody else that shares the same goals.

mob spawn, send phonecall to everybody, everybody log in and kill the raid target.

Repeat until satisfaction is acquired.

This should reward the people that spends the most time in game getting ready for raid targets, which should be the one actually getting them.

You're welcome.

hah, I hope you're kidding. According to your wise sage words, you will get more raid targets by logging off your characters, not by spending time "in game".

[Fael]

Guarantee we have more people in our vent and in game actively playing throughout the day.

Quit creating a false reality to support your fragile egos.

Dolic

[Spitty]

Quit creating a false reality to support your fragile egos.

Says the guy tethered to a vent channel in order to collect imaginary pixels for your nonexistent avatar in a fake online realm.

[Erati]

Says the guy tethered to a vent channel in order to collect imaginary pixels for your nonexistent avatar in a fake online realm.

Spitty spews fire, u better not cross paths w him!

[Bones]

Says the guy tethered to a vent channel in order to collect imaginary pixels for your nonexistent avatar in a fake online realm.

a man after my own heart

[cyryllis]

i wasnt on a batphone back in velious, but during luclin and PoP our guild would instant message and actually call people for high priority raids. I remember being very pissed that someone forgot to call me for rallos zek, it was the last raid I needed for elemental planes and I had to wait another month and a half to get flagged. Sad times

[Nune]

Log off your characters at the raid target you want, set up a phone relay with everybody else that shares the same goals.

mob spawn, send phonecall to everybody, everybody log in and kill the raid target.

Repeat until satisfaction is acquired.

This should reward the people that spends the most time in game getting ready for raid targets, which should be the one actually getting them.

You're welcome.


Exceptions:

Having a job: where you can't just log on at any time of the day to kill a dragon, especially when you make a lot of money and work 60 hours a week, more hours than that during holiday weeks.

Having a girlfriend: When spending time with her often prevents you from being able to log on and kill a dragon at any time of the day. Because people who prioritize raiding over sex, can't get sexxed.

Having a social life: Where your desire to abandon reality, to log on and kill a dragon, is low priority. Sometimes friends aren't pixelated, and sometimes you can travel places that aren't inside of your house.

And by the way Professor X, it has nothing to do with time spent, the only person who qualifies that remark is the tracker(s). Having no life away from a keyboard; allowing you to log on to Everquest at any moment's notice, is what qualifies the situation you cited.

This reminds me of the neckbeards arguing that casual players don't put "effort" into the game. lol, if you think it requires "effort" to play a video game, let alone be so serious about it that you pride yourself on your character's /played time, then this is more than a game to you, and your attempts to shit on a "casual" player will never mean anything. Because we "casuals" go to bed, and wake up and go to work the next day, and you stare at a virtual wall constantly checking the forums hoping to piss someone off :cool:

[heartbrand]

hah, I hope you're kidding. According to your wise sage words, you will get more raid targets by logging off your characters, not by spending time "in game".

Welcome to how it works on Red

[Nizzarr]

bump,

Less GMs involvement in raiding scene, more of the same 3 years that everybody got used to.

[Origin]

51 cleric LFG on red

Who's got my pixel package?

[Nizzarr]

<----- I do

[Millburn]

Surprised this hasn't been locked or moved yet.

[Redstars]

Obamaraids!

[sanforce]

Obamaraids!

Obamaepics!