Here's a story...

[capco]

... a true story to show just who we’ve become:

Once there was a native tribe that lived in peace and harmony for thousands of years, and every day the routine was the same: hunters would go out from the tribe and when they returned, the bounty from the hunt was shared equally by all members of the tribe. No one went hungry when food was available, not even the weak, the sick, or the elderly.

One day, the most skilled hunter said, “I’m the best hunter. I kill more than my share of deer. Why should I share the bounty of my hunt?” And from that day forward he began storing his meat in a high mountain cave. And then other skilled hunters said, “We kill more than our fair share of deer too. Shouldn’t we have the right to keep the bounty of our hunt?” And they too began to store their meat in high mountain caves.

And then, something began to happen in the tribe that had never happened before. Some people, especially the old, the weak, and the sick, began to go hungry while others were well-fed. In fact, it became so commonplace that no one even thought it unusual that some were starving while others had more than what they needed.

And what’s even more strange, the tribal elders began to teach their young to emulate the hoarding habits of these few.

Now that story isn’t true because it happened. It’s true because it’s happening. We are that tribe.

(taken from the documentary "I Am": http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1741225/)

I ask that those active in the raid discussions really take a good look at this :)

[HippoNipple]

... a true story to show just who we’ve become:



Now that story isn’t true because it happened. It’s true because it’s happening. We are that tribe.

(taken from the documentary "I Am": http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1741225/)

I ask that those active in the raid discussions really take a good look at this :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism

[Redstars]

best sig ever

[capco]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism

Actually, it's a story about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism , but you were so close!

zing

[baalzy]

Alternate version.

Greatest hunter realized if he took the extra meat he had he could use it to coax the women of the village to give him blow jobs.

Other hunters realized they too could use their extra deer meat to trade for blow jobs.

Thus Capitalism was born.

However, one day the Greatest hunter realized if he killed off the other hunters then only He would have meat to trade for blow jobs.

So he did. However, despite his great virility he could only have so many blow jobs per day and thus the women of the village began to felicitate him for less and less meat. Eventually only the most skilled givers of blowjobs were able to adequately feed their family.

Because he was now the only hunter in the village and he controlled who ate and who did not, none were able to grow strong enough to challenge him. Those who attempted to farm or domesticate animals too were slaughtered by the Greatest hunter, in order to maintain his grip on the blow job market.

Thus the village realized the folly of unchecked Capitalism.

[HippoNipple]

Actually, it's a story about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism , but you were so close!

zing

I was referring to the propaganda you were pushing, not the failed story of capitalism you were portraying.

[HippoNipple]

Alternate version.

Greatest hunter realized if he took the extra meat he had he could use it to coax the women of the village to give him blow jobs.

Other hunters realized they too could use their extra deer meat to trade for blow jobs.

Thus Capitalism was born.

However, one day the Greatest hunter realized if he killed off the other hunters then only He would have meat to trade for blow jobs.

So he did. However, despite his great virility he could only have so many blow jobs per day and thus the women of the village began to felicitate him for less and less meat. Eventually only the most skilled givers of blowjobs were able to adequately feed their family.

Because he was now the only hunter in the village and he controlled who ate and who did not, none were able to grow strong enough to challenge him. Those who attempted to farm or domesticate animals too were slaughtered by the Greatest hunter, in order to maintain his grip on the blow job market.

Thus the village realized the folly of unchecked Capitalism.

This sounds like Nihilum on Red, except substitute blow jobs for meaningless pixels on a 14 year old elf simulator.

[Obrae]

Alternate version.

One day the strong hunter was tired and decided not to go hunt.

He realized he was getting fed anyway even when he was not feeling like going to hunt.

he stopped hunting.

His fellow hunters saw this and figure they do the same.

Eventually there was no more hunters.


The tribe went extinct.

[Tongpow]

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

[radditsu]

Alternate version.

One day the strong hunter was tired and decided not to go hunt.

He realized he was getting fed anyway even when he was not feeling like going to hunt.

he stopped hunting.

His fellow hunters saw this and figure they do the same.

Eventually there was no more hunters.


The tribe went extinct.



http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs

[capco]

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Let's see what one of the most ardent supporters of unregulated capitalism, Mr. Alan Greenspan, has to say about it:

In Congressional testimony on October 23, 2008, Greenspan acknowledged that he was "partially" wrong in opposing regulation and stated "Those of us who have looked to the self-interest of lending institutions to protect shareholder's equity – myself especially – are in a state of shocked disbelief."

Referring to his free-market ideology, Greenspan said: "I have found a flaw. I don't know how significant or permanent it is. But I have been very distressed by that fact." Representative Henry Waxman (D-CA) then pressed him to clarify his words. "In other words, you found that your view of the world, your ideology, was not right, it was not working," Waxman said. "Absolutely, precisely," Greenspan replied. "You know, that's precisely the reason I was shocked, because I have been going for 40 years or more with very considerable evidence that it was working exceptionally well."

Greenspan admitted fault in opposing regulation of derivatives and acknowledged that financial institutions didn't protect shareholders and investments as well as he expected.

[radditsu]

Great people are great because they are driven to be great. Nobody has ever been "accidentally" great. The entire premise is a fallacy. Tribes have such a small population set that everyone breaking down and starving by being lazy is illogical. There would be something done before a crisis of "laziness" due to self interest. A mutiny would occur.

Please stop with fox news logic.

[Tongpow]

were not even talking about vidya games anymore are we...

unregulated capitalism - things that should be bannable anyway

capitalism - race for targets

socialism - be banned if you dont wanna participate in a rotation

[capco]

were not even talking about vidya games anymore are we...

unregulated capitalism - things that should be bannable anyway

capitalism - race for targets

socialism - be banned if you dont wanna participate in a rotation

It's just that in reading all these discussions about how to solve the raiding question, I couldn't help but see the parallels to RL pop up over and over and over.

I just thought it would be a good topic to discuss in and of itself (how these constructs are impacting the raiding scene that is).

[Tann]

OP gizooglism:

Once there was a natizzle tribe dat lived up in peace n' harmony fo' thousandz of years, n' every last muthafuckin dizzle tha routine was tha same: huntas would go up from tha tribe n' when they returned, tha bounty from tha hunt was shared equally by all thugz of tha tribe. No one went horny when chicken was available, not even tha weak, tha sick, or tha elderly.

One day, da most thugged-out skilled hustla holla'd, "I’m tha dopest hustla n' shit. I bust a cap up in mo' than mah share of deer n' shit. Why should I share tha bounty of mah hunt?" And from dat dizzle forward his thugged-out lil' punk-ass fuckin started storin his crazy-ass meat up in a high mountain cave fo' realz. And then other skilled huntas holla'd, "We bust a cap up in mo' than our fair share of deer like a muthafucka. Right back up in yo muthafuckin ass. Shouldn’t our crazy asses have tha right ta keep tha bounty of our hunt?" And they too fuckin started ta store they meat up in high mountain caves.

And then, suttin' fuckin started ta happen up in tha tribe dat had never happened before. Right back up in yo muthafuckin ass. Some people, especially tha old, tha weak, n' tha sick, fuckin started ta go horny while others was well-fed. Y'all KNOW dat shit, muthafucka! In fact, it became so commonplace dat no one even thought it unusual dat some was starvin while others had mo' than what tha fuck they needed.

And what’s even mo' strange, tha tribal eldaz fuckin started ta teach they lil' ta emulate tha hoardin habitz of these few.

[Nune]

And then the guy who owned the land that the mountain and deer were on appeared and said


"Start dividing the food or get the fuck off my land"

[Obrae]

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Yep Winston had it right all along.

Not saying capitalism is perfect or anything, but socialism is just that.

[Hailto]

Actually, it's a story about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism , but you were so close!

zing

Man you are really dum

[Lune]

Yep Winston had it right all along.

Not saying capitalism is perfect or anything, but socialism is just that.

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Then why are the far more socialist European societies so much more successful than us in every way other than militarism? Happier, wealthier per capita, more egalitarian, cleaner, and healthier?

I bet you all see yourselves as the alpha hunters, don't you?

"Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires."

[radditsu]

Wtb a GM to put this thread in Rnf.

[loramin]

I wish people would stop thinking that capitalism and communism are binary opposites. There has never in the history of the human race been a purely capitalist or purely communist society: it's a spectrum, and while a country can be more or less capitalist/communist, it can't be purely one or the other (a pure version of either would be unworkable in the real world).

America has socialist elements, and the "communist" USSR had capitalist elements. Neither economic system is entirely "good" or "evil"; they're complex, and under some circumstances each has their advantages.

The world is filled with shades of gray, both in general and in our own little P99 microcosm. The discussions here would be at least a little bit less stupid if people could keep that fact in mind.

/rant off

[capco]

Wtb a GM to put this thread in Rnf.

NO plz ANYWHERE but that cesspit! lol

But seriously, I expected someone to make the comparisons to the C and R-class guilds right away.

I should have known that this would ruffle way too many feathers for it to be discussed solely in the context of p99. After others did I couldn't help myself as well :(

[Clark]

hm

[quido]

if I don't kill at least a dozen raid mobs a month I'll wither away and die

[radditsu]

Poor guy

[Tann]

if I don't bust a cap up in at least a thugged-out dozen raid mobs a month I be bout ta wither away n' die

fixed