Chardok Proxy worth it??

[Nohealin]

If I start at level 40, is it worth paying 2.5k per pull? Or will I end up spending like 5k per level? At that point, it's not worth it to me, when I can pay someone 3k to get out of hell, then 2.5k per level after. Opinions from people who have had 40's in it? Should I pay for someone to PL me out of 40, then start proxy? Thanks :)

[Iliilliill]

my ogre shm at 40 (hell level) was getting ~30%, 41 through 44 it was closer to 50. depends on other people in the group as well.

[Rhambuk]

my experience with chardok ae pl was not good and I wouldn't pay to do it again.

I've been told since that i got ripped, regardless I won't waste my money on that...

[Thulack]

If you want to level a toon and have tons of money and dont want to do anything=yes
If your a class that can Duo with a bard for XP=No
If you just dont care and want to level toon easiest way=yes

[Swish]

Chardok AOE:-

http://i.imgur.com/1gBWIug.gif


...you all came here for classic EQ right? Not fast levels?

[Fame]

Chardok AOE:-

http://i.imgur.com/1gBWIug.gif


...you all came here for classic EQ right? Not fast levels?

Holy fuck that gif is golden

[odiecat99]

Best to wait until 45 before you try to proxy in anyways. I sometimes do the groups, but I wouldn't sell the proxy.


Isn't there enough level 60's that are lying dormant waiting for velious? why not add another 1000 fuck it.

[Nohealin]

Chardok AOE:-

http://i.imgur.com/1gBWIug.gif


...you all came here for classic EQ right? Not fast levels?

I have played 4 characters over 50, and I am trying to have a character I can go farm on and make easy money from ports etc. I want the fast levels for this character, but I refuse to pay outrages prices if I don't have to. After all, it is my choice, I'm just asking for opinions. I obviously posted wanting fast levels, so why would you bother asking that question? lol

[Incognito]

Chardok AOE:-

http://i.imgur.com/1gBWIug.gif


...you all came here for classic EQ right? Not fast levels?


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[Tann]

whether classic or not classic, its about the:

http://i41.tinypic.com/28a1aa.jpg

to 60, not how fast you get there.

[Nohealin]

don't care about the journey to 50, been there done that, want to get to 50 and start getting into things I want to do more than level myself. ;) Just curious if it's worth the money, that's all

[Incognito]

Id say after 50 its def worth it for the ease and speed. You wont get a PL from anyone post 50 that comes close to the speed of chardok aoe.

Even if you have a bard friend theres not too much to kite after 50 for them either.

[Tann]

to each his own, for me I lose interest once I hit max level and have to start over. must watch xp bars fill, AA xp was great for this

[Estu]

Chardok EXP is amazing, but I'd never pay 2.5k per pull for it. Pulls happen roughly every half hour (taking into account various delays that may occur), so you're paying 5k an hour for a power level. Just not justifiable IMO.

[Nocsucow]

Chardok AOE:-

http://i.imgur.com/1gBWIug.gif


...you all came here for classic EQ right? Not fast levels?

i dont know about you but we done the chardok AoE in classic we did a seb AoE also .. cant do chardok AoE after revamp

[Nysus]

53 halfling druid at the time and I got 20% a pull when the 25% bonus was going on.

[Rooj]

Hopefully the staff figures out a way to nerf this :D

[Nocsucow]

Hopefully the staff figures out a way to nerf this :D

why ..... its classic ? if seb wasnt so packed u would try to get a AoE going in there also

[Rooj]

Detrimental to the community. Part of the reason that this server thrives is because of Everquest's near requirement to group with other players and the incredibly slow leveling speed. It shouldn't have been allowed in classic either :)
In an AOE group, 99% of the time you're AFK. You're not even playing the game. If you don't want to play the game, why are you playing it?

[Nocsucow]

Detrimental to the community. Part of the reason that this server thrives is because of Everquest's near requirement to group with other players and the incredibly slow leveling speed. It shouldn't have been allowed in classic either :)
In an AOE group, 99% of the time you're AFK. You're not even playing the game. If you don't want to play the game, why are you playing it?

most people like my self who is in the AoE groups already has 6 60s who were leveled the hard way .... maybe we just want some higher lvl pixels without the effort or trouble.... its not as many people as you think it is hitting these aoe groups. its the same hand full of people doing it . hardly even effects 2% of the server

[Chrimes]

I live in chardok and sell proxies every day. I would highly recommend not even looking at chardok until 50. Exp so easy pre-50 don't waist ur pp. To answer your question I can make 50k a day selling proxies, and today I took day off and paid for them and got my toon from 57-58 full level for 20k. Highly profitable for me. I could of prob gotten 50-60pct to 59 if I spent the whole day also.....its dependent. On my enc I went through 59 in one day - easily the best exp in game, but be prepared to calculate pct of exp u make per pull vs pp you pay. If you are poor then don't do it, if you are middle-high class and not first toon and can make pp easily, its worth it all day.

[Handull]

chardok ae you can pay someone for X # of pulls, and afk, even afk in a safe spot (not zone in) and still get the exp. a normal PL you have to be there for. Also while at 40 there are options for how to get a PL, at 58/59 the options are less appealing and harder to find. people are obviously paying the price, so from a supply/demand point of view its worth it :P just have fun imo

[Lazie]

Chardok EXP is amazing, but I'd never pay 2.5k per pull for it. Pulls happen roughly every half hour (taking into account various delays that may occur), so you're paying 5k an hour for a power level. Just not justifiable IMO.

Why ? Most people charge 4k an hour in various other PLs. How is paying 5k for an even faster one unheard of ?

[Vyal]

It's 11% xp per pull @ 59,
anything less really is not a full pull....

Don't be fooled by anyone telling you this is bad XP, there are good pullers and bad pullers.

If you get in with a bad puller I would say don't pay anywhere near the 2.5 - 4k people ask per pull because that really is a rip off. Ask around in there - "how are the pulls going?" watch a few if the group is wiping left and right and not pulling the full 120+ mobs don't pay.

But if the pulls are going strong this is unbeatable XP, 11% per 20 - 30 min @ 59 depending on the crew speed. You should be getting 3 pulls an hour FYI...

[Nocsucow]

depending on the crew speed. You should be getting 3 pulls an hour FYI...

its impossible to get 3 pulls in 1 hr ... spawn time is 21 mins and it takes several minutes to get the pull to the kill spot

[Estu]

Detrimental to the community. Part of the reason that this server thrives is because of Everquest's near requirement to group with other players and the incredibly slow leveling speed. It shouldn't have been allowed in classic either :)
In an AOE group, 99% of the time you're AFK. You're not even playing the game. If you don't want to play the game, why are you playing it?

I think this is pretty silly. You're definitely not AFK anywhere close to 99% of the time, for one thing. The repops take about 20 minutes; shortly before the repop happens you have to kill a roamer, then you have to make sure you're buffed up and ready as the pull comes, then the monsters come and you kill them - them arriving and you killing them takes several minutes - then you spend a while looting and rolling on loot. You end up actually being able to AFK about 4/5 of the time, maybe a little more, certainly not 99%. The situation is different if you bought a proxy spot, obviously; if you're being PLed you don't necessarily need to do anything, period, but we're talking about being a normal participant here.

What else involves a lot of AFK time? Many classes' soloing ability. Look at a quadding druid or wizard: you gather up a bunch of mobs, kill them, then sit for a long time medding up. I guess you don't want to play the game then!

Also, I don't know why you would even mention the requirement to group with other players, because that is exactly what you are doing in an AE group. In fact, I would say that an AE group is in some ways the ultimate form of grouping with other players because you have to be so well-coordinated and on the ball. If you screw up in a regular EXP group, maybe your group has to have a longer rest break after a pull. If you screw up in an AE group, everybody dies in a fraction of a second (obviously this depends on the class; an AE nuker has somewhat more leeway). And what you're accomplishing is pretty amazing - you're killing an entire zone all at once.

I think AE groups are one of the coolest parts of EQ, to be honest. You are working together with other people in a very specific and thought-out way to accomplish something great. Now, I wouldn't say that it should be your entire leveling experience, but levels 50+ with their crazy hell levels and double hell levels and not an enormous amount of places to EXP can get very slow and very dull, and AE groups are a great way to do something different and something faster.

Also, to the poster asking why I didn't think 5k/hr was reasonable - for me it's just a matter of how much someone's time is worth. My impression was that normal PLing goes for about 2k/hr, which for me is already kind of steep because most of my methods of income are less than that. So if I paid someone 2k/hr for a PL when I can really only make about 1-1.5k/hr in income through various methods, I'm saying their time is worth more than mine. 5k/hr is just huge, and in my opinion unreasonable. But it is very good EXP (depending on the group having good pulling and going smoothly), so if you wanna shell out that kind of money, go for it.

[Tecmos Deception]

What else involves a lot of AFK time? Many classes' soloing ability.

You're telling this to a guy who probably thinks soloing should have been impossible because it is detrimental to the community! Lol :)

Whether it's worth it or not depends on a number of things, but for me personally it is a matter of efficient use of my play time. I mean, Tecmos can make 3k/hr day-in day-out farming in a few different spots, and my wiz quadding raptors only makes like 4-5% per hour in 57 compared to 20ish% per hour in an AE group. I could spend 10 hours grinding raptors on my wiz to make half a level, or I could spend 7 hours making plat on Tecmos, buy 3 hours of chardok proxy to make 60% of a level, and still have extra PP left over. And seeing as I have more fun farming on Tecmos than grinding raptors, well, that just makes buying spots even more worth it!

[Lammy]

its impossible to get 3 pulls in 1 hr ... spawn time is 21 mins and it takes several minutes to get the pull to the kill spot


Spawn time is 18 minutes.


When I first started on this server, which wasn't long ago in relation, Chardok AE was kind of a little stow away secret for leveling and getting yourself quick exp. Now it has turned into a 24/7 greedy cash cow business. I'm guilty of being involved in Chardok AE from time to time, but I think it's a terrible contribution to the servers bloated end game numbers. I would also venture to guess its full of buyers who obtained their platinum via RMT.

It's best value for exp is 50+

[Vyal]

its impossible to get 3 pulls in 1 hr ... spawn time is 21 mins and it takes several minutes to get the pull to the kill spot

Your right about the pulls taking a bit but the 1 pull an hour someone said was a bit off, good groups should be bring'n more then 1 an hour.

[Chrimes]

2 an hour is average. plus minus couple minutes.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

You're telling this to a guy who probably thinks soloing should have been impossible because it is detrimental to the community! Lol :)

Whether it's worth it or not depends on a number of things, but for me personally it is a matter of efficient use of my play time. I mean, Tecmos can make 3k/hr day-in day-out farming in a few different spots, and my wiz quadding raptors only makes like 4-5% per hour in 57 compared to 20ish% per hour in an AE group. I could spend 10 hours grinding raptors on my wiz to make half a level, or I could spend 7 hours making plat on Tecmos, buy 3 hours of chardok proxy to make 60% of a level, and still have extra PP left over. And seeing as I have more fun farming on Tecmos than grinding raptors, well, that just makes buying spots even more worth it!

It's the same way with Heallun, but in the end it means we really only play our mains and our alt stable is just for nag/vox/camping at target alts. But o well :p

[goshozal]

Even considering the bloated proxyfest that it has become, it's still the fastest xp in the game 51+. For some people, that's got value.

The question is whether that value is worth the asking price. Hard to say. Depends on your char's level and your total wealth.

My personal opinion is that 2.5 would be my price ceiling unless there was a good group rocking under a considerable xp bonus. I paid 3k/pull for a few pulls once and got ripped. Even when I am playing Maksim and selling a proxy spot, I feel bad charging more than 2.5 and I lower my price based on how good the xp really is at the time.

I'm kind of in the same boat as Tecmos. It's much easier and more fun for me to play Maksim and farm some money than it is to sit on Maksima quadding. So why not have fun, make some money, and then later have fun skipping the monotony of quadding? Win/win.

I suspect that I'll have a similar attitude re: Maksimum once I get around to leveling him and hit the 50+ bard kite ceiling.

[zanderklocke]

I think bard PL kiting in DL might be faster until like 52. Then it's probably Chardok AE or BW bard kiting as only AoE options, but I'm not very impressed with BW as a bard.

[Rooj]

I've noticed all the people I know that get PLed this way quit the game soon after because they're bored. Big surprise there.

[Nocsucow]

I've noticed all the people I know that get PLed this way quit the game soon after because they're bored. Big surprise there.

we are in kunark for 2 years and raiding is suspended ........ no shit

[HeallunRumblebelly]

I've noticed all the people I know that get PLed this way quit the game soon after because they're bored. Big surprise there.

It's not so much as they quit as they get stabled. They were never going to be mains and rarely even farming characters as it is very cost prohibitive.

[Rooj]

Yes those people on my friends list "get stabled" instead of not logging in anymore. lol.

[Atmas]

It's not worth it to do for low 40s, a monk pwrlvl would probably be better. While its good xp per pull you still lose a lot of xp due to the level imbalance. It's definitely worth it in the 50s if money isn't a problem.

[oddibemcd]

Where do camp rights come into play on Chardok AE groups?

Three people in the safe room going for Chardok pipe? Non KoS druid picking off mobs during the repop holding an SBS?

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Where do camp rights come into play on Chardok AE groups?

Three people in the safe room going for Chardok pipe? Non KoS druid picking off mobs during the repop holding an SBS?

Walk down to royals in between pulls, otherwise stay the fuck out of the zone :P Also if you sit around and you're a monk without an epic they'll probably just hand you a pipe. No need to camp it. All chardok loot is getting hilariously cheap thanks to AOE.

[JayN]

its not worth it but hey if you are rmt master and have nothing to do with your plat go for it!

Also any monk wanting to get your epic pipe GL with that! an aoe grp in there LOL will take everything and train your grp dead over and over again


so not classic

[HeallunRumblebelly]

its not worth it but hey if you are rmt master and have nothing to do with your plat go for it!

Also any monk wanting to get your epic pipe GL with that! an aoe grp in there LOL will take everything and train your grp dead over and over again


so not classic

Pretty much every group I've seen will just let you hang out and loot a pipe when one comes up. It's not a big issue. Pawbuster pipe is the bottleneck anyway.

[Incognito]

its not worth it but hey if you are rmt master and have nothing to do with your plat go for it!

Also any monk wanting to get your epic pipe GL with that! an aoe grp in there LOL will take everything and train your grp dead over and over again


so not classic

http://concernedcitizenscoffeecity.com/coffeecity/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/I-Sense-Butthurt-75000244666.jpg

[JayN]

http://concernedcitizenscoffeecity.com/coffeecity/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/I-Sense-Butthurt-75000244666.jpg

Hey look everyone a chadork aoe proxy seller; idiot lol

I have like 20 epics, i was more worried about ateams epics

[Incognito]

Hey look everyone a chadork aoe proxy seller; idiot lol

I have like 20 epics, i was more worried about ateams epics

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[JayN]

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQV58YJat716foF5B0521HyJogwXX8n9 VBBmhCc0YPqzv7xMQPv

Sorry didnt mean to upset and dip into your mass rmt scheme/scam

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[Daldaen]

Walk down to royals in between pulls, otherwise stay the fuck out of the zone :P Also if you sit around and you're a monk without an epic they'll probably just hand you a pipe. No need to camp it. All chardok loot is getting hilariously cheap thanks to AOE.

Buying:

SBS - 3k
Golem Tear Ring - 500
Symphonic Saber - 500
Ivory Imbued Collar - 50
Sarnak Arcane Fetish - 50

Will arrive at Chardok to pick them up. SBS / Ring / Saber payments can be made in the form of Rubies if weight is a concern. 22 / 4 / 4 respectively.

Slightly joking. But really... If Lore items are getting you down! Give me a ring.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Buying:

SBS - 3k
Golem Tear Ring - 500
Symphonic Saber - 500
Ivory Imbued Collar - 50
Sarnak Arcane Fetish - 50

Will arrive at Chardok to pick them up. SBS / Ring / Saber payments can be made in the form of Rubies if weight is a concern. 22 / 4 / 4 respectively.

Slightly joking. But really... If Lore items are getting you down! Give me a ring.

no joke dude, SoS is like 6k. Literally one of the best monk 1h in the game (barring efreeti fist) selling for chump change. SBS also pretty unmatched offhand for a lot of classes.

[Ele]

Jumped on live today and tagged a few sarnaks in the levi hall. Each one pathed straight to me out of the hole. None of them ran back down the hall through the castle.

[Atmas]

Jumped on live today and tagged a few sarnaks in the levi hall. Each one pathed straight to me out of the hole. None of them ran back down the hall through the castle.

I was on live today and saw lots of pathing that is definitely not classic.

[joppykid]

Pretty much every group I've seen will just let you hang out and loot a pipe when one comes up. It's not a big issue. Pawbuster pipe is the bottleneck anyway.

wish that was the case for me. I thought it might be cheaper than an mq if I went to loot the pipe and got strong armed into paying 10k. I offered 8k and guy just says OK I'll Mq it. not much you can do about it then. Even if he was bluffing I didn't want to wait around any longer.

[Sirelk]

Spawn time is 18 minutes.

Respawn time is 20 minutes.

And I only charged 1.5k per pull (and that was even during the bonus exp time). I even gave repeat customers 1k pulls (INSANE SALE PRICES!!!!!!).

I averaged out pulls with decent dps (2 wiz and cleric adding dps near end) and I was pulling every 23-24 min. That's the 122-127 mob pull that includes basement, entrance to royals, and betrayer tunnel.

If you have terrible dps (aka 2 mages) then it's closer to pulls every 26-28 min when you aren't wiping because this dps is so horrendous.

I am the best Chardok puller. Thank you.

Sirduh

[goshozal]

Having worked with a lot of Chardok pullers, can confirm Sirduh #1.

Giant beastly trains, everytime.

Also I had no idea you went for such low prices. For God's sake hook my wizard up.

[Vyal]

Respawn time is 20 minutes.

And I only charged 1.5k per pull (and that was even during the bonus exp time). I even gave repeat customers 1k pulls (INSANE SALE PRICES!!!!!!).

I averaged out pulls with decent dps (2 wiz and cleric adding dps near end) and I was pulling every 23-24 min. That's the 122-127 mob pull that includes basement, entrance to royals, and betrayer tunnel.

If you have terrible dps (aka 2 mages) then it's closer to pulls every 26-28 min when you aren't wiping because this dps is so horrendous.

I am the best Chardok puller. Thank you.

Sirduh

Mages terrible DPS? I don't think so... The mage AoE does more dmg or the wizards can use their big AoE and be oom before mobs are even at half.
Mage pullers are the best pullers,
Mage DPS are the best DPS'rs,
Mage proxy is the best proxy to have....
Mage puller can even coh a rogue go inside and pull the royals - but don't think the wizards will down them.

[Nerosys]

You people will literally cry about anything. If you don't like chardok AoE than it's simple, don't do it.
To the RMT witch-hunters there are alot of people myself included who don't need to RMT for platinum get 60 find some friends and go make money it's not hard if you apply yourself.
To the it's not classic crew: Yes....Yes it is just because you were not apart of it did not mean it wasn't happening we use to do it all the time, Velious changed things and pathing was updated in chardok numerous times, honestly find something else to do other than complaining just because you are unable / unwilling / don't want to participate.

[Tongpow]

wtb enchanters to log in at chardok right now, thank you.

[Tecmos Deception]

The mage AoE does more dmg or the wizards can use their big AoE and be oom before mobs are even at half.

Mages aren't bad DPS, no, but scintillation is far from superior to wizard PBAEs. Scintillation does more raw damage per cast than the jylls nukes do, but it does less DPS and is less efficient.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Even if you have a bard friend theres not too much to kite after 50 for them either.

shhh nobody tell him

[Buriedpast]

Mages terrible DPS? I don't think so... The mage AoE does more dmg or the wizards can use their big AoE and be oom before mobs are even at half.
Mage pullers are the best pullers,
Mage DPS are the best DPS'rs,
Mage proxy is the best proxy to have....
Mage puller can even coh a rogue go inside and pull the royals - but don't think the wizards will down them.

Umm...
Mage DPS is much lower.

Mage total damage is lower than a wizard in like gear.

Mages DO make the best pullers, but a sk/nec can be 90% as good easily. Monks nowhere even close.

But you're a moron if you think a mage is solid for damage.

[Aaron]

How do Mages pull? Serious question, as I don't know. Don't know much at all about Chardok AE pulling.

I'm assuming it's by having good faction, sending a pet, and then CoTH themselves? Or something similar?

[Ele]

How do Mages pull? Serious question, as I don't know. Don't know much at all about Chardok AE pulling.

I'm assuming it's by having good faction, sending a pet, and then CoTH themselves? Or something similar?

You got it.

Replace Feign death with Coth.

[Buriedpast]

staff of runes @ herb, staff of runes at kennels, pet at royals. non kos and coth at zone line. dps then coth again before shit dies.

Just timing it right so it arrives at once takes patience and waiting in the right spots so they path correctly

[Raavak]

Where do camp rights come into play on Chardok AE groups?

Three people in the safe room going for Chardok pipe? Non KoS druid picking off mobs during the repop holding an SBS?I have done AoE groups with people camping the Iksar Betrayer... the puller just has to avoid the tunnel area I think. But if groups are handing out the pipe to needing monks I don't see why you'd camp it.

[joppykid]

I have done AoE groups with people camping the Iksar Betrayer... the puller just has to avoid the tunnel area I think. But if groups are handing out the pipe to needing monks I don't see why you'd camp it.

because they don't hand it out...

[Buriedpast]

Because #newmoney dickheads that AE these days have no sense of decency and wouldnt. The current crew are complete retards day and night.

[Juevento]

A lot of bad lvl 60s come out of Chardok aoe.

One of these days I am setting up an exp group there. It's ridiculous that an entire dungeon is more or less off limits to standard groups.

[webrunner5]

A lot of bad lvl 60s come out of Chardok aoe.

One of these days I am setting up an exp group there. It's ridiculous that an entire dungeon is more or less off limits to standard groups.

And a expensive Monk Epic item you to have to buy instead of being able to group for it.

[Rararboker]

And a expensive Monk Epic item you to have to buy instead of being able to group for it.

At least monks CAN get it. How much would it cost me to get my wizard epic (or more accurately the VS or CT piece)? More than 8k, that is for sure, and that is even if a guild would sell it, which I doubt. Though I agree having to pay plat for your epic is absurd.

[webrunner5]

At least monks CAN get it. How much would it cost me to get my wizard epic (or more accurately the VS or CT piece)? More than 8k, that is for sure, and that is even if a guild would sell it, which I doubt. Though I agree having to pay plat for your epic is absurd.

My main forever was a Druid on here. I don't feel sorry for you about a epic lol. Snowballs chance in hell I will ever get hers either. Ain't paying shit for a epic I can track and kill. :eek:

[Rararboker]

Yeah I feel bad for druids, they got the rough life in that regard. =[