Server wide.

[Fysts]

Would it be possible for Nhilbog to code a server wide mesage for when Raid mobs are killed. This would allow the server to keep track of what mob died and who killed it. This will be very valuable if a 1/1/1 plan comes into effect.

Just a suggestion from a non raid players on p99, gluck with your negotiations.

[Swish]

This encourages mass mobilization of the top end of the server and FTE drama for every mob potentially... not sure if the GMs want those extra petitions.

[Unidus]

This encourages mass mobilization of the top end of the server and FTE drama for every mob potentially... not sure if the GMs want those extra petitions.

Mass mobilization for a corpse? When a mob DIES.

[Hitpoint]

Guilds that spend extra effort to know when a mob died should be rewarded for that. Guilds who try to hide a kill time should be also.

[Redstars]

Yeah can we please be told everytime one pops as well? and also if you could summon us to the zone so we could prep that would be nice. How much more easy can this shit get?

[Hitpoint]

If you want to chance that, it's up to you. Most of the PNP rulesets include bans for individuals breaking them. I'm not saying that's going to be the ruleset for these but I wouldn't doubt it at this point.

What the hell are you talking about?

[Kope]

What?

Have you read the PNP rules?

[Kope]

BTW my bad on deleting the message, I was going to rephrase it, but too late.

[Nocsucow]

This encourages mass mobilization of the top end of the server and FTE drama for every mob potentially... not sure if the GMs want those extra petitions.

there is no FTE drama when mob shouts out who hits em first

[Kope]

What the hell are you talking about?

Looks like the original PNP ruleset was deleted when Sirken's post was taken down, Rogean's just references "Raid Play Nice The same raid policies put forth recently will be applied here as well."

[Hitpoint]

Looks like the original PNP ruleset was deleted when Sirken's post was taken down, Rogean's just references "Raid Play Nice The same raid policies put forth recently will be applied here as well."

I remember respect FTE message, no training, no DA stalling, no parking on spawns. There was like 1 other thing. What am I missing?

There should be a post made with these things in that raid discussion section. It's like pretty fucking important.

[Geofizzle]

My new years resolution is to be more like BDA in game and adhere to the PnP. Give away some pixels and just try to be more of a white knight for the little guy, like Chest, for example.

As for the OP's idea, I dislike it.

[Kope]

I remember respect FTE message, no training, no DA stalling, no parking on spawns. There was like 1 other thing. What am I missing?

There should be a post made with these things in that raid discussion section. It's like pretty fucking important.

I agree.

It didn't reference breaking the actual ruleset of the new rules though, it was directly referencing the new PNPs, so I'm not positive of what would be the actual punishment, I just thought I should give a word of warning since the punishments were quite harsh IIRC.

[Kope]

Here's what Sirken wrote in his post:

Side Rules:

anyone caught intentionally training at raids eats a perma ban, and their guild eats a four week raid suspension.

we strongly encourage guilds to work out their own disputes before contacting the CSR staff, as you will probably not like our rulings.

respect FTE messages, anyone that ignores FTE and Kill Steals a mob will earn their guild a four week raid suspension.

No guild will have more than two representatives present at any raid mob at any time.

Players will not be allowed to camp out at raid mobs ahead of time to encourage actually racing for targets.

Consider greatly reducing variance if the poopsocking can be curbed by the above rules.

No DA Stalling, period.

A Guild will be considered a Teir 1 Guild by the staff, as soon as it starts competing for dragons within Veeshan's Peak.


Rogean has added a few "No douchebag clauses" as well, but are generally worded along the lines of "act like an adult."

[Kope]

To extend the PNP ruleset, here is something additional:

and no leap frogging.
This could be interesting depending on how this is defined.
It's defined as.. "Don't be a douchebag."

We shouldn't need to make such specific rules because guilds think they can walk the grey line.

Like I said it directly references the PNPs that are being put in place but it's basically saying the grey area of being a douchebag won't be tolerated.

[Fysts]

Im not quite sure you folks are understanding what I am proposing. IF Rogeans plan goes through you will be counting on the honesty of guilds posting when they killed raid mobs, as you will have to know which guild killed what mob last. Unfortunately as a whole, I would not trust every guild to be upfront and honest. If variance is reduced like discussed, knowing when a mob died is not going to be some huge, game balancing information. It is simply going to let someone go and update the spreadsheet/forum/whatever so that it can be kept track of.

I mean seriously people a message that says "Trakanon has been slain" will just make it easier to update sheets. Sounds like you all are just wound a little tight with the whole raid discussions.

[Man0warr]

Im not quite sure you folks are understanding what I am proposing. IF Rogeans plan goes through you will be counting on the honesty of guilds posting when they killed raid mobs, as you will have to know which guild killed what mob last. Unfortunately as a whole, I would not trust every guild to be upfront and honest. If variance is reduced like discussed, knowing when a mob died is not going to be some huge, game balancing information. It is simply going to let someone go and update the spreadsheet/forum/whatever so that it can be kept track of.

I mean seriously people a message that says "Trakanon has been slain" will just make it easier to update sheets. Sounds like you all are just wound a little tight with the whole raid discussions.

No - Rogean said they would build a hook into the server so a website will be updated when a mob is killed and which rotation it was (R/C/FFA).