Throwing boulder dmg compared to bow dmg

[Stasis01]

I am asking about this because most Windstriker rangers aren't coming close this kind of damage, in fact I think if you parsed boulder damage it would be higher than melee (maybe not)

Just an example of how brutal boulders hit on this box - I have been hit by a 577 dmg deadly strike. I am just curious I guess if the formula is working as intended - as I imagine it would be irrelevant on blue and go undiscovered all this time.

http://i44.tinypic.com/14tpnuu.jpg

[Stasis01]

And in case people weren't aware but on Red99 bow/throwing dmg is restricted by almost nothing, and should be more like the ranger's damage, it's consistent almost unavoidable dmg - no reason boulders should be hitting 577 crit/270+ non crit IMO.

[Zalaerian]

jesus christ thats on par with RANGER dmg on LoZ with AoW bow. O yea this server is classic...

[Potus]

Yeah that is not classic. Server needs to be taken down immediately to fix.

[Nirgon]

No1 want to listen when I said reroll barb rogues

[JayN]

No1 want to listen when I said reroll barb rogues

Boulders are the only reason to ever play barby, dont nerf this or we' will never see barbs again

[Technique]

It's possible that archery damage is reduced to 80% (or even lower) in PvP on this server.

I don't currently have the means to confirm this ingame myself, but when looking at the stock eqemu source I noticed the following in attack.cpp:
if(attack_skill == SkillArchery)
PvPMitigation = 80;It seems archery damage was initially reduced to 66% dmg in PvP during the LoY expansion, then increased to 80% during GoD.

APRIL 8, 2003
Archery in Player vs. Player combat in now reduced to 66% damage.
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20030408.html

AUGUST 11, 2004
Archery damage has been increased to 80% of its base damage in PvP, up from 66%.
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20040811.htmlAt any rate, it should be full dmg during p99's era.

[Potus]

Bows need all the help they can get right now. Then in Luclin we can all freak out about how OP they are.

[Mac Dretti]

how much damage is it doing, clicking it goes to a tinypic page that takes too long to load

plz use imgur

[Nirgon]

Boulders are the only reason to ever play barby, dont nerf this or we' will never see barbs again

Yeah ok

[Hughman]

Was he duelist when he threw those? Don't remember getting non crits that high on my warrior.

[Awwalike]

Was he duelist when he threw those? Don't remember getting non crits that high on my warrior.

^

also v classic that's why all real rogues were barbs your fault for not rolling one

[odiecat99]

Shits classic bro

[Nirgon]

all real rogues were barbs

[Bamz4l]

http://oi44.tinypic.com/14tpnuu.jpg

[Alecta]

IIRC (dev box isnt unpacked yet, cant verify), archery is doing 80% of it's damage in PvP.

Will add this to the list of things to look into.

[Nirgon]

Archery and throwing are certainly 2 different things. Dunno if one being nerfed applies to the other tbh, though I wouldn't think so.

I recall being chased through Gfay with a primal bow (Velious I know) and it hitting for 70-80 damage pretty consistently for what that's worth.

[AmukTZ]

how much damage is it doing, clicking it goes to a tinypic page that takes too long to load

plz use imgur

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[Colgate]

Archery and throwing are certainly 2 different things. Dunno if one being nerfed applies to the other tbh, though I wouldn't think so.

I recall being chased through Gfay with a primal bow (Velious I know) and it hitting for 70-80 damage pretty consistently for what that's worth.

windstrikers are hitting for what seems to be like a max of 40 on someone standing up

max damage to a sitting target is like 180?

it misses at least half the time

archery needs a buff whereas throwing needs a nerf

[Tune]

lots of people talking outta their ass in this thread

archery and throwing always sucked

archery became good with aa's . then it was nerfed

[Technique]

it misses at least half the timeThe following rule on line 327 in ruletypes.h may be defined on p99 as it is in the stock emu source:
RULE_REAL ( Combat, ArcheryHitPenalty, 0.25) //Archery has a hit penalty to try to help balance it with the plethora of long term +hit modifiers for itMods affecting chance-to-hit didn't exist in classic, so that one's a no-brainer.
whereas throwing needs a nerfIf throwing damage on p99 is being calculated using stock source, then line 1096 in special_attacks.cppuint16 MaxDmg = (((2 * wDmg) * GetDamageTable(SkillThrowing)) / 100);is probably responsible. Archery damage isn't being doubled in this way.

[Bamz4l]

STUFFS SKEWED

[Holey]

lol i knew this bitch would be crying.... hahahha
shits hilarious...
but yeah i remember in classic i'd be only using boulders.. then backstabing.
but who knows.. people must be mad that AC doesnt get looked at from back..

But then who knows stasis doesnt add the fact he was RUNNING AWAY
(HINT HINT) his back was towards me.
why else would i not roll barb, best rogue imo.

[IronLionn]

stasis so mad all the time its great

[Holey]

ALL TIME low if i cant use boulders im quitting.

[Nirgon]

Harm touch changed to all or nothing life tap resist in Velious (score me a pvp point here, thx)

Throwing's classic. Farming boulders sucks.

[Stasis01]

Your boulders are useless in the forum realm bitch.

[Nirgon]

Looking for proof of throwing boulder damage in pvp even tho Stasis hates me for not wanting boxing/variance

[Holey]

Your boulders are useless in the forum realm bitch.

and the only reason you come on the fourms is to cry like a bitch you are.:cool:

[Awwalike]

but yeah i remember in classic i'd be only using boulders.. then backstabing.

holey we were both doing big things at the age of 10 slaying grown men in everquest classic

Throwing's classic. Farming boulders sucks.

i have 9 stacks of throwing boulders for sale holla

[Lasher]

Bump

I need this looked at so when better bows come out in velious I can be more OP

[vanix]

holey we were both doing big things at the age of 10 slaying grown men in everquest classic



i have 9 stacks of throwing boulders for sale holla

i feel like nobody really cares to take tthe time to be great but those that do are glowing everquest gods and when those mega damage attacks shock and awe ppl just cry... facts of life i guess... sac to 45 and for the real go getters bind at freeport gates and afkkkkkkk down like a man and when u get into a group of noobs in like befallen and dont take damage with 30 monsters on u and they are dropping quick fast u just met a neckbeard.. take ss's and bow before the man in the blue robe procing raimbows and suddenly seeing a monk run into solb and take every giant including tranix / magus and solo them all at once why yes boulders arent suddenly that rare

[vanix]

Bump

I need this looked at so when better bows come out in velious I can be more OP

How good is bow dmg with rez effects?????? LMAO

[Tywulf]

Stackable throwing boulders are not classic.

[Tywulf]

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#Jul 24 2003 at 10:16 PMRating: Decent
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As a 46 Rogue Barb, I got a Deadly Strike of 138 and regular Crits were 68 DMG.


From an old Alla's post.