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Sykem
08-02-2010, 02:10 PM
Was reading threads tonight and decided I needed to write down as many bizarre rumors / undiscovered quests / former sources of EQ fireside gossip as I could. One thing about EQ is that it was filled with so many strange and mysterious things, and as a kid playing EQ, this is what hooked me.

Some of these were real, some were partially implemented quests, some straight up myths, while some of these rumors were perhaps never fully understood.

- Fiery Avenger

This was such a controversy on the old newsgroup alt.games.the game in pre-PoF days. McQuaid's character, Aradune on Fennin Ro, wields a Flaming F--ing Sword! Omg! That bastard! Just because he made the game doesn't mean he can god-mode! Grr!

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn30/thaddeuskane/aradune.jpg


Not sure why everyone was so upset. I mean, if it's his game, he can give himself a flaming sword, right? Back then the stats were 35/45 and it procced Inferno Shock. And in post Beta days when the most hardcore weapon was the Razing Sword of Skarlon (25/45?)... This was a big deal.

He also wore a set of Splinted Green armour. So that's a set of Green plate-mail and a fiery Paladin sword outfitted on a ranger, damn!

At this point, there were only a few paladin holy blades in the game... The Ghoulbane, some Holy Truncheon weapon (a quest out of Rathe mountains, I believe) and the recently discovered Soulfire which shared the same graphic. Unfortunately, the Soulfire blew. So needless to say, the community was FILLED with rumors on how to achieve the Avenger.

If anybody remembers any of these rumors, feel free to post them here. Many involved killing Mayong Mistmoore, and other unattainable things. In fact, EQ conspiracy theorists would link together many unachievable aspects of the game as being part of some great, uber quest... usually with something like the Fiery Avenger as the final reward.

I remember lengthy posts from people with 'inside information' (my brother works at that company) about the great quest (first kill the Kraken, take its head to Mayong Mistmoore in a brown paper bag, then kill Mayong. Take both their heads to Veeshan, she'll teleport you to fight Aradune himself, if you win u get his sword... honestly guys)

With Plane of Air came the "real" Fiery Avenger quest, which uber guilds quickly jumped on (had to kill Miragul the Lich in the Everfrost Caves). When Kunark was released with the epics, the Fiery Avenger was just a quest-piece to get the much better Fiery Defender.

- Razing Sword of Skarlon

On the same note, EQ'Lizer released the newly discovered Razing Sword of Skarlon on their site sometime around May or June of 1999. The guild that leaked its existence refused to name where it came from due to the immense power of the weapon (lol). However, they did say it was from a 50+ monster that took multiple groups to kill.

Rumors abound. Maybe from King Ak'anon? Or the giant lizard Allizewsaur? Or maybe even... the KRAKEN?

As it turns out, Warlord Skarlon dropped it. Fancy a guess a mob named "Skarlon" is going to drop a sword with the same name. But I suppose Nagafen raids were still rare enough back then that nobody knew to put these pieces together.

- The Kraken

Can't go by without mentioning the Kraken in the Ocean of Tears. Now keep in mind there were other Kraken sightings, including in Lake Rathetear and Erud's Crossing. But, most information on the forums concerned OOT.

Just like some paranormal creatures in real life, there were plenty of sightings but no proof (why no simple screenshot?!). Entering OOT for the first time, I recall being paranoid the Kraken would eat my poor character.

Eventually the consensus was that the Kraken existed in Beta, hence how people came up with this idea, but it was taken out after launch.

But here's the kicker. Despite claims that it was in Beta, there are still no screenshots in existence. So, nobody even knows what monster graphic the "Kraken" used. And if there were no screenshots in Beta, it begs the question... did it even exist in the first place?

My theory was no. It was complete bunk. It spread viral across EQ forums but it had no weight behind it, or else a screenshot from beta would have been procured. But please prove me wrong, if you have a screenshot show me!

- Ice Comet

In pre PoF days the Ice Comet was a mythical status spell. I don't think the quest was added until Paineel came out. So, how did people know about it? If I recall, I believe Lady Vox would sometimes drop it. Since Vox spawns once a week, required an army to kill, and Ice Comet was a rare drop, this mythical status was well deserved. Maybe 7 or 8 total players on EQ had the spell before the quest giver in Everfrost appeared.

Mayong Mistmoore

Another legendary myth like the Kraken. You know of the foreboding tower as you enter Mistmoore? Well few knew the secret to getting up there. Those that did told tales of the ruler of Mistmoore dwelling within. This sent chills into this level 20 noob visiting the dungeon for the first time.

Mistmoore even had his own mythical loot-table. He dropped the Fanged Skull Stiletto. I forget the stats, but it was really good.

Same with the Kraken, Mistmoore was an apparent beta-spawn. But, just like the Kraken, I've seen no proof of a Mistmoore NPC even in Beta. The only time Mistmoore has ever appeared is during a couple of GM events back in the day. Mistmoore was a GM controlled dark elf I believe, who opened up a can of whoop ass.

Otherwise, I don't think Mistmoore was ever a static NPC spawn with a loot-table. Only Garton Viswin (?) spawned in the tower. His rare was the Chestplate of the Dark Flame, which was also mythical in its own right.

- The Blackburrow Tunnel

I gotta include this one for laughs. First week of playing EQ the talk of Halas was that Blackburrow had a secret tunnel that connected ALL the way to the other gnoll dungeon, Splitpaw. The tunnel was in the Razorgill water pit, but it was hidden.

Razorgills murdered my ass when I tried to find it. Players were so adamant that it existed that I continued to believe in it until I realized a tunnel that long would be unfeasible, unless it was a transporter.

- Plane of Underfoot

Runnyeye Citadel after beta was such a strange and unexplored zone that rumors of things like a hidden passage into Brell Serilis' domain continued probably until at least Kunark. In an early guild I organized an expedition into Runnyeye to try and discover this El Dorado and other rumors. Our search team discovered a passage through the water near where the Dazed Goblin Knight spawned (the long room). At the bottom was a metal grate that we could swim through and enter some weird room. But it was empty. As we swam out, a bug trapped all of us inside of the metal grate and everyone drowned to death, and we had to call a GM to rescue us. Fun times.

I should mention the rumors continued with Brell Serilis' plane being part of, you guessed it, the Fiery Avenger quest.

- The Lavastorm Nightmare

A rare instance when an EQ cryptozoologist discovers the mythical rumors are actually true. Indeed, even before nightmares were introduced when PoF launched, the graphic existed in Lavastorm Mountains as the UBER rare spawn -- the level 20 black horse of death.

The nightmare dropped some kind of Nightmare Hide, graphics of a bear skin, and it procced a spell when you right clicked it. Playing EQ for over 6 years, I only saw the nightmare ONCE. To this day I'm curious if it had any undiscovered even rarer drops. I'd guesstimate the Nightmare was 5x rarer than the Terrorantula

- Dunedigger / Rahotep

Similar to the Nightmare, these guys were crazy rare, but real. The Scepter of Rahotep fetched a pretty penny at EC. Never saw Dunedigger in all my years on EQ. However I killed Rahotep maybe twice, picking up his Scarab Ring (+ all resists)

- Kedge Keep

This whole zone had a mythical status during early-days. I recall the EQ'Lizer website first busted the zone open when somebody used an explore-EQ style program to take a bunch of photos of the interior. The reason the big guilds never bothered with the place is that it had no loot-table until around when Paineel launched. So, nobody knew anything about the place. I was awe-inspired by Kedge and wanted desperately to get high enough level to explore the place and find undiscovered treasure.

- Mysterious geography

There were a lot of strange and hidden places. Where do the lava tunnels in the deepest depths of Solusek B go? Or the underwater caves in Lake Rathetear? These questions always invoked people's imaginations.

- King Xorbb

I just have to mention Xorbb. I played EQ for years and never saw Xorbb. Most people knew where he spawned. on that bloody throne in Gorge of King Xorbb, guarded by the two named-evil eyes.

Sometimes Lord Soptvyl would appear there. But never Xorbb and his elusive Slime Crystal Staff and the rest of the mysterious items on his loot table that I've never seen with my own eyes.

Anyone have any real stories of encountering Xorbb?

- NPC Guildmasters / Kings

The King of Kaladim, guildmasters, and other city NPCs were very hard to kill. Nobody ever did it. So rumors were abound that they had rare loot tables, or were part of bigger clandestine quests.

All I know specifically is the monk guildmasters would sometimes drop black sashes. Newbie monks, of course, did sash quests as they leveled, and the final "test" was to defeat your own master and earn his sash. Never saw one of these sashes, however.

- The Blued Two Handed Hammer

I had to save this one for last. A quest so puzzling that it always bordered between the real, and the unreal. Attempting to solve the quest would drive many adventurers mad.

Most would agree that it began, or involved, the visiting Priestess of Najena. I believe she would sometimes drop a block of blue clay, or something of that sort. She'd also babble something in Dark Elvish, which held clues to the quest.

Exploring EQ lore, we learn of the origin of the Goblins. Each Goblin race was apparently represented by a staff that dated back to their creation by someone like Brell or Rallos Zek (I can't remember any of these details). But the staffs were in game.

The story went further and further. A lot of players found clues by talking to NPCs in Neriak and elsewhere. The priestess had some clandestine purpose in Najena, which detective quest-solvers figured out and created elaborate posts about on sites like Everlore.

I don't remember too many more details except most staffs were accessible from rare spawns in the Goblin dungeons. The Fire and Ice Crystal staffs were no big deal to find. But the problem was the Slime Crystal Staff.

We knew that Xorbb dropped the staff, but Xorbb is / was so rare that it was futile. The second rumor suggested that Slime Elementals in Runnyeye dropped the staff.

In search of the staff, I camped the Slime Elemental for a very long time (this was before slimer had the graphic of a gelatinous cube... he used to look like a fire elemental). I never did find the staff, and therefore could never finish the blued hammer quest.

In the end, I believe those who finally did retrieve the hammer found it was a piece of crap.... some 20/40 weapon. But, I don't think that was even the point... The goal was to just say you did it.

Jeice
08-02-2010, 02:58 PM
I remember being worried about the sea monster every time I would ride the boat, there was also a time period where a group of us would bank all our gear and jump off the OOT boat to find this thing. There at one time was some pictures circulating around which were somewhat blurry and had the good ol' "i must be retarded if I cant take a picture" quality that you see today.

As for mistmoore I remember that he was spawned for Halloween events and that a few people ended up with items from his loot table. I heard rumors that this was also done on this server and people are running around with his dagger. Yet to see one myself.

http://common.allakhazam.com/images/b/2/b257ff7a337400feea0350fd7ca2bc93.png

Straif
08-02-2010, 03:01 PM
The lore of EQ is awesome if you ever have time to read through it.

The fables, myths, and crazy stories you would hear in group chats made your imagination run wild. Some of them came to fruition for me, others remain but a mysterious story.

These were the things that made EQ magical.

guineapig
08-02-2010, 03:40 PM
I remember being worried about the sea monster every time I would ride the boat, there was also a time period where a group of us would bank all our gear and jump off the OOT boat to find this thing. There at one time was some pictures circulating around which were somewhat blurry and had the good ol' "i must be retarded if I cant take a picture" quality that you see today.

As for mistmoore I remember that he was spawned for Halloween events and that a few people ended up with items from his loot table. I heard rumors that this was also done on this server and people are running around with his dagger. Yet to see one myself.

http://common.allakhazam.com/images/b/2/b257ff7a337400feea0350fd7ca2bc93.png

Would love to See Mayong back this Halloween but sadly at this point on the server I can not how this would be handled in a way that everyone could participate.

Any zone hosting an event like is likely to crash from the mass of players (if there is a chance at rare loot) . And can you imagine all the guilds that would be fighting over the spawn? You would have to set up like a a different instance for each guild or take turns or something...

guineapig
08-02-2010, 03:41 PM
The lore of EQ is awesome if you ever have time to read through it.

The fables, myths, and crazy stories you would hear in group chats made your imagination run wild. Some of them came to fruition for me, others remain but a mysterious story.

These were the things that made EQ magical.

/agree

jeffd
08-02-2010, 05:53 PM
I heard rumors that this was also done on this server and people are running around with his dagger. Yet to see one myself.

you can get the dagger through a quest on this server.

the quest involves getting cozy with the devs, then they'll spawn Mayong for your guild and absorb the DTs so you can kill him.

azeth
08-02-2010, 05:56 PM
edgy as fuck, bro.

Overcast
08-02-2010, 07:28 PM
Similar to the Nightmare, these guys were crazy rare, but real. The Scepter of Rahotep fetched a pretty penny at EC. Never saw Dunedigger in all my years on EQ. However I killed Rahotep maybe twice, picking up his Scarab Ring (+ all resists)



Dunedigger - wasn't it a named Scarab? I never seen it until I got to the Progression server - then I did once, and got the cool shield. If that's the right mob I am recalling.

Rahotep - got his scepter waaaay back and still probably have it in the bank on Vallon Zek - just to prove he did spawn at one point. I think he was taken out of the spawn table eventually..

Lowlife
08-02-2010, 11:13 PM
outstanding post

RKromwell
08-02-2010, 11:38 PM
He also wore a set of Splinted Green armour.


It is called Thorny Vine armor. Green plate, drops in Fear.

Jeice
08-03-2010, 12:06 AM
you can get the dagger through a quest on this server.

the quest involves getting cozy with the devs, then they'll spawn Mayong for your guild and absorb the DTs so you can kill him.

Sounds like a rough quest.

Rael
08-03-2010, 06:50 AM
No mention of Cracktusk?

JaVeDK
08-03-2010, 07:59 AM
Great post, but are you Talgurin from the EQClassic boards?

If not you really should remember to give credit when it's due seeing as this is a copy paste from here: http://www.eqclassic.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1633

Plagiarism is sort of a pet peeve of mine, but as I said great post and apologies if you are indeed the original author.

guineapig
08-03-2010, 09:57 AM
No mention of Cracktusk?

True, the quest involving Cracktusk quest was never solved much less found.

What's sad is that, while it is in theory possibly that people just didn't know who to hand what to or what NC to talk to to get these quests rolling, chances are most of these were just broken, unfinished, or simply unimplemented quests where certain parts were left in the game just to keep players guessing.

I'm a firm believer that they did this in some cases to keep up the mythos.

eqdruid76
08-03-2010, 12:29 PM
Would love to See Mayong back this Halloween but sadly at this point on the server I can not how this would be handled in a way that everyone could participate.

Any zone hosting an event like is likely to crash from the mass of players (if there is a chance at rare loot) . And can you imagine all the guilds that would be fighting over the spawn? You would have to set up like a a different instance for each guild or take turns or something...

This.

Those live Halloween zone revamps always brought out the worst in people. Just imagine what it would to the people who play on P99. :P

Malrubius
08-03-2010, 12:33 PM
Great post, but are you Talgurin from the EQClassic boards?

If not you really should remember to give credit when it's due seeing as this is a copy paste from here: http://www.eqclassic.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1633

Plagiarism is sort of a pet peeve of mine, but as I said great post and apologies if you are indeed the original author.

I thought this looked familiar.

OngorDrakan
08-03-2010, 12:57 PM
Speaking of old EQ stuff...Anybody ever in the Alpha or Beta? Did they have you download a file or give you a CD? How did you get into it? Is this data available somewhere? What can we learn from it?

Straif
08-03-2010, 01:48 PM
Great post, but are you Talgurin from the EQClassic boards?

If not you really should remember to give credit when it's due seeing as this is a copy paste from here: http://www.eqclassic.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1633

Plagiarism is sort of a pet peeve of mine, but as I said great post and apologies if you are indeed the original author.

lol, copied word for word

Misanthrope
08-03-2010, 08:26 PM
The rumor I remember... it was being called "Leviathan", not "Kraken", and he swam around Lake Rathe. It was claimed that they had to remove him due to pathing issues. There was one screenshot... and it was poorly photoshopped :P

Nedala
08-03-2010, 09:00 PM
The rumor I remember... it was being called "Leviathan", not "Kraken", and he swam around Lake Rathe. It was claimed that they had to remove him due to pathing issues. There was one screenshot... and it was poorly photoshopped :P

hmm maybe there is some truth in that because in eq2 there is a kind of big kraken thingy and his name is Leviathan, hes also in a lake or in the sea . Hes a raidmob and needed for VP acces. My favorite eq2 raidmob, very complicated to kill :)

Straif
08-03-2010, 09:21 PM
hmm maybe there is some truth in that because in eq2 there is a kind of big kraken thingy and his name is Leviathan, hes also in a lake or in the sea . Hes a raidmob and needed for VP acces. My favorite eq2 raidmob, very complicated to kill :)

I eff'ing HATED Levi!!!

Pyrocat
08-04-2010, 03:34 AM
- The Kraken

Can't go by without mentioning the Kraken in the Ocean of Tears. Now keep in mind there were other Kraken sightings, including in Lake Rathetear and Erud's Crossing. But, most information on the forums concerned OOT.

Just like some paranormal creatures in real life, there were plenty of sightings but no proof (why no simple screenshot?!). Entering OOT for the first time, I recall being paranoid the Kraken would eat my poor character.

Eventually the consensus was that the Kraken existed in Beta, hence how people came up with this idea, but it was taken out after launch.

But here's the kicker. Despite claims that it was in Beta, there are still no screenshots in existence. So, nobody even knows what monster graphic the "Kraken" used. And if there were no screenshots in Beta, it begs the question... did it even exist in the first place?

My theory was no. It was complete bunk. It spread viral across EQ forums but it had no weight behind it, or else a screenshot from beta would have been procured. But please prove me wrong, if you have a screenshot show me!

An alternate version of this was Megalodon. The rumor goes that he was a giant shark in beta that swam around Lake Rathe. He was the only mob in the game that, if it killed you, would cause permadeath. 99% sure this is nothing more than a rumor. I do still have a copy of that badly shopped screenshot of Kraken in Lake Rathe though. I believe Megalodon eventually was reintroduced into the game as part of the Beastlord or Shaman epic 2.0



Mayong Mistmoore

Another legendary myth like the Kraken. You know of the foreboding tower as you enter Mistmoore? Well few knew the secret to getting up there. Those that did told tales of the ruler of Mistmoore dwelling within. This sent chills into this level 20 noob visiting the dungeon for the first time.

Mistmoore even had his own mythical loot-table. He dropped the Fanged Skull Stiletto. I forget the stats, but it was really good.

Same with the Kraken, Mistmoore was an apparent beta-spawn. But, just like the Kraken, I've seen no proof of a Mistmoore NPC even in Beta. The only time Mistmoore has ever appeared is during a couple of GM events back in the day. Mistmoore was a GM controlled dark elf I believe, who opened up a can of whoop ass.

Otherwise, I don't think Mistmoore was ever a static NPC spawn with a loot-table. Only Garton Viswin (?) spawned in the tower. His rare was the Chestplate of the Dark Flame, which was also mythical in its own right.
He was in Beta as a mob, and I think even the first few weeks of live, but his pathing and aggro radius was so screwed up that anytime anyone got near the tower (close to zone-in) he would aggro and cause a massive train. The devs either couldn't or were too lazy to fix, so they removed him from the game. A GM would occasionally play him for Halloween events and hand out Fanged Skull Stilleto.



- The Lavastorm Nightmare

A rare instance when an EQ cryptozoologist discovers the mythical rumors are actually true. Indeed, even before nightmares were introduced when PoF launched, the graphic existed in Lavastorm Mountains as the UBER rare spawn -- the level 20 black horse of death.

The nightmare dropped some kind of Nightmare Hide, graphics of a bear skin, and it procced a spell when you right clicked it. Playing EQ for over 6 years, I only saw the nightmare ONCE. To this day I'm curious if it had any undiscovered even rarer drops. I'd guesstimate the Nightmare was 5x rarer than the Terrorantula


Not THAT rare, I was wandering around Lavastorm on this server in my mid 30s or 40s when I got aggroed by this completely out of the blue as I was running to SolB. He kept me permablind and I didn't have my spell gem slots memorized, so he actually ended up killing me. I believe he was light blue at the time. Took a good 45 minutes to find the corpse because I didn't /loc. Very embarrassing.



And don't forget the rumor that killing the King of Ak'anon would spawn a giant Clockwork Dragon.

Or that collecting all of the keys to Tower of Frozen Shadow would unlock some super secret 8th floor if you clicked the right place.

Itchybottom
08-04-2010, 04:38 AM
He was in Beta as a mob, and I think even the first few weeks of live, but his pathing and aggro radius was so screwed up that anytime anyone got near the tower (close to zone-in) he would aggro and cause a massive train. The devs either couldn't or were too lazy to fix, so they removed him from the game. A GM would occasionally play him for Halloween events and hand out Fanged Skull Stilleto.

A lead-GM admin/developer actually played Mayong Mistmoore every year on his son's birthday. He lost his son (death) in a car accident or something terrible, and stopped doing it a year later because it was too painful. It was all posted on Harpy's Head Tavern back in the day. I never got to see it -- mistmoore scared the bejesus out of me due to trains.

Maelstrom
08-08-2010, 04:24 AM
One mystery that someone might be able to clear up for me was why Breezeboot's Frigid Gnasher was removed from the game. This was one of the coolest looking Velious weapons and it was only available for a very limited time.

http://common.allakhazam.com/images/c/0/c09a77eb83c64669fce1a748b98d4a0a.png

The rumors at the time were that the Knockback proc effect was being used to exploit by moving mobs or something of that nature. I also heard that it was used to launch people onto the roof In Mistmoore, but again these were only rumors.

Would be great to find out the true reasons such a unique looking weapon was removed from the game.

bluejam
08-08-2010, 08:13 AM
Enjoy.

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/mmorpg-general-discussion/35658-eq-cheaters-nostalgia-eq1s-greatest-exploits-rumors.html

maximum
08-08-2010, 10:11 AM
The OOT Kraken is ridiculous. Everyone knows the sea monster was in Timorous Deep.

Maelstrom
08-08-2010, 01:57 PM
Enjoy.

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/mmorpg-general-discussion/35658-eq-cheaters-nostalgia-eq1s-greatest-exploits-rumors.html

Holy smokes, over 100 pages in that link...that is some serious reading right there. Good stuff, thanks.