Velious Effect: Items that will crash/jump in value

[myxomatosii]

Such as NoS, CoS, FBSS, etc

What would you speculate the prices will become after the nerfs/replacements.

CoS I'm especially curious about.

edit: i realize the way i wrote this it seemed like i was asking about these specific items, i was, but feel free to speculate about items here too.

[joppykid]

There are sooooooo many CoS out there though. I don't think it will jump more than a few k tops which is still significant for the price of the item currently.

FBSS probably won't go down too much, maybe back to 8k like it used to be but the SCHW will be such a diffrence in price at first that it shouldn't cause FBSS to drop much IMO

[tristantio]

CoS: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=190628

Seems it wasn't nerfed until a year after Velious, wonder if it will be here.

Edit: I would speculate an item which ceases dropping (regardless of initial influx) with such a unique ability would sky rocket in price since it becomes possible for the big EC players to hoard said item across multiple mules until their pp runs out, and then turn around and sell it to someone desperate for it for insane profit.

[baalzy]

CoS will go up in price moderately when it eventually gets nerfed (still sticks around for a good amount of time after Velious) and will slowly rise in price as the server ages. At this point though there is a significant supply of them on the server so it will take a while before they really skyrocket.

NoS will tank abruptly as the raiders replace them with no-drop dragon talismen and then partially recover after a few months once the initial flood of them hitting the market subsides. Probably settle at 2/3rds its currents price eventually.

FBSS will be untouched.

Diamondine earrings will tank (probably become a 50p item if people are still even selling them) as the superior (and more common) orc fang/cougar claw earrings hit the market.

[Swish]

Too many people obsess over item values and the EC/plat game :p

[Xelris]

Seb scale armor will tank due to Ry'Gorr armor, except some select pieces.

Crystalline Robe and Blackened Crystalline Robe will cause most other robes to drop in price, particularly the froglok robe.

Chipped Velium Amulet destroys value of Runed Lava Pendant.

Dustcryer's Crystal Ball tanks due to easy access to superior ranged item available by always-drop trigger mob in the shawl quest and, to a lesser degree, the Teachers Syllabus and Student's Homework.

Frost-covered tome lightly reduces price on Idol of the Thorned.

Phenocryst's Focus heavily reduces demand on Book of Obulous.

Shawl quest reduces demand on Obulous Death Shroud and Loam-encrusted Amice.

Coldain-skin quest reduces price of Impskin gloves and Loam-encrusted pants.

Lots of others I'm sure due to fairly simple quests in Kael in particular.

[Erati]

Coldain-skin quest reduces price of Impskin gloves and Loam-encrusted pants.



nice list

but this one would be gloves and boots, not pants. So maybe GEBs tank a bit.

unless I'm thinking of a dif quest (turn in the head of two dwarves to giants for Coldain Skin gloves and boots)

[Xelris]

Flayed Coldain-skin leggings.

I had actually forgotten about the boots, but you're right, those will affect GEBs.

[Daldaen]

Plat HP Rings -> Replaced by 6AC/65HP Velium Rings
BS Plat Necklace -> Replaced by 65HP/Mana BS Velium Neck

etc. Whatever slot the Velium jewelry goes in, that old plat or gold or electrum piece becomes much less valuable cause no longer the 'best'

[joppykid]

Plat HP Rings -> Replaced by 6AC/65HP Velium Rings
BS Plat Necklace -> Replaced by 65HP/Mana BS Velium Neck

etc. Whatever slot the Velium jewelry goes in, that old plat or gold or electrum piece becomes much less valuable cause no longer the 'best'

Or the velium will be higher priced. Hard for created items to drastically change in price because of the price of materials to create.

[Byrjun]

Or the velium will be higher priced. Hard for created items to drastically change in price because of the price of materials to create.

People may sell the 5/55 rings at a loss just to get rid of them. They'll flood the market as soon as 6/65 are available.

[joppykid]

People may sell the 5/55 rings at a loss just to get rid of them. They'll flood the market as soon as 6/65 are available.

That would be the main exception, I thought the same thing after I posted. I guess a lot of JC will be losing some money on combines for awhile because of it haha.

[Gustoo]

They keep moving peoples jobs over the iceclad ocean and its bad for the economy.

[joppykid]

They keep moving peoples jobs over the iceclad ocean and its bad for the economy.

cheap labor in those igloo warehouses

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Donals dies the final death in velious. Whether nilbog nerfs it on launch or during timeline makes a huge difference on its value in velious, though.

[Briscoe]

Too many people obsess over item values and the EC/plat game :p

And you obsess over GIFs. So what?

[Xelris]

Some other ones:

Gauntlets of Iron Tactics removes a lot of demand from Gauntlets of Potence.

Coldain Military Wristgaurd is stupid easy and affects RMBs heavily.

FBSS might go down a little but haste is always at a premium, despite new entries in this area from velious sources such as velks haste gloves.

Kunark armors will barely be touched with the exception of the Donal's BP and some class legs that don't have good effects, due to nerfs for the Donals and class armors being far easier to get and superior for the legs (again, most cases, not all. Some leg effects are unique and desired).

[Rooj]

And you obsess over GIFs. So what?

Amen to that, and he changes it multiple times a day, and I have to right click and BLOCK ELEMENT every time.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

They keep moving peoples jobs over the iceclad ocean and its bad for the economy.

Dey tuk his jerrrrrrb!!!

[Gaffin 3.0]

There are sooooooo many CoS out there though. I don't think it will jump more than a few k tops which is still significant for the price of the item currently.

FBSS probably won't go down too much, maybe back to 8k like it used to be but the SCHW will be such a diffrence in price at first that it shouldn't cause FBSS to drop much IMO

schw is a super common drop, so i think fbss will drop quite a bit, but you arent too far off on the price, im thinking more like 5-6k tho

[Castigate]

Heiro cloak will probably stay steady, it might even shoot up in price as there isn't really anything twinkable that does a good job replacing it.

NoS will tank. It might recover slightly for a while, but then the bottom will drop out on it entirely when guilds start letting dragon talis rot in WW.

[pasi]

There's been a few posts on this before, so rather than write something new, repost time!

Items that will retain value:

Fungi - likely to go up
Manastone - one of the only ways to twink a caster/priest. Add Zlandicar's Heart and you have reliable regen for the casters who can't use Fungis. Also, it allows for duoing of Ragefire, General, etc. in a world without Donal BPs.
Hiero Cloak will stay steady - Maelstrom Cloak and Direwolf are serviceable
T-staff goes up - monk droppable weaponry doesn't get better for a long time. 2handers become much better.
BotBDE - while RMoY will tank with Frostbringer and Wavecrasher coming in, BotBDE is still the best droppable weapon before SoDs.
Currently Sold Epic MQs - they've pretty much bottomed out. General's Edge is going to drop which makes rogue epics less lucrative to do for money.

Items that will not just drop, but plummet
Enshrouded Veil - Crystal Eyes dropping every 30 minutes.
Necklace of Superiority - Collar of the Storm, Dragon Tooth, 7/6s, 6/5s, 5/4s, NToV Trash Necks, the list goes on.
Diamondine Earrings - Hello Orc Fang Earrings.
Ringed Mace of the Ykesha - Frostbringer and Wavecrasher give a cheap option after Sarnak Hammer.
Donal BP - easy enough.
Insignia Protector - this item is already way overpriced for it's graphic. OOIV does good things.