SK/Ranger Changes in Kunark?

[VincentVolaju]

Kind of torn between playing my SK or Ranger. I thought maybe hearing about some of the upcoming changes in Velious might help make up my mind. I know for Rangers they gear higher skill caps and get a fear animal spell. However I dont know anything about SKs in Kunark.

[Lyzard]

Im confused, do you want to know about changes that happened to SK/Ranger in Kunark? or the upcoming changes in velious?

[Tecmos Deception]

SKs in Velious (eventually) get a couple disciplines, new spells, some higher skillcaps, and removal of the class xp penalty.

[fadetree]

Rangers get a lot better in Velious. Mine's parked until then.

[Teppler]

Rangers get fear animal!

[Asap]

SKs in Velious (eventually) get a couple disciplines, new spells, some higher skillcaps, and removal of the class xp penalty.

This. I believe Knights have their defensive skill caps raised to that of a Warrior. SKs receive some spells which improve their Aggro abilities (shroud of pain, shroud of death), and a new FD spell (Death Peace).

And the big one, removal of class experience penalties.

[Pheer]

The new SK spell death peace is pretty beast compared to FD

FD: 1.5 sec cast time 15 second recast
Death Peace: 1 second cast time 4 second recast time

[Tecmos Deception]

The new SK spell death peace is pretty beast compared to FD

FD: 1.5 sec cast time 15 second recast
Death Peace: 1 second cast time 4 second recast time

Skele form with lifetap and atk drain are nothing to sneeze at either!

[Pheer]

Skele form with lifetap and atk drain are nothing to sneeze at either!

I think shroud of undeath wont be out until the chardok revamp goes through though

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Hats off to Rangers, Paladins and SK's. I've got a lot of respect for someone who's 50+ on those characters in this era.

[Xelris]

Hats off to Rangers, Paladins and SK's. I've got a lot of respect for someone who's 50+ on those characters in this era.

It's kind of a tradeoff, though. On the one hand it's hard to level due to the over-bearing penalty.

On the other hand, getting EC geared for them couldn't be any easier, and if you join even a casual raiding guild you'll probably spend less dkp than anyone else for similar levels of power.

"Oh look, another nodrop hybrid two-hander. Do I even need to ask or should I just destroy this now?"

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

It's kind of a tradeoff, though. On the one hand it's hard to level due to the over-bearing penalty.

On the other hand, getting EC geared for them couldn't be any easier, and if you join even a casual raiding guild you'll probably spend less dkp than anyone else for similar levels of power.

"Oh look, another nodrop hybrid two-hander. Do I even need to ask or should I just destroy this now?"

Completely true. I wouldn't say it's a very good trade off though if you're pixel hungry.

If you're 60 bound that's one hell of a journey!!

[webrunner5]

Completely true. I wouldn't say it's a very good trade off though if you're pixel hungry.

If you're 60 bound that's one hell of a journey!!

Tell me. I have a Ikky SK. :eek::eek: But I love it..well sort of.

[NextGenesis88]

Troll SK here. :) One more level to FD. Woot! Also CoS.

[baalzy]

Pssst.

Iksar monks have a higher penalty than rangers/bards/paladins.
(1.2 * 1.2 = 1.44, it's multiplicative not additive. This is why troll/iksar sk is so brutal, its a 68% penalty)

Spread it around, maybe people will start picking up rangers instead of monks then :p

[Xelris]

Pssst.

Iksar monks have a higher penalty than rangers/bards/paladins.
(1.2 * 1.2 = 1.44, it's multiplicative not additive. This is why troll/iksar sk is so brutal, its a 68% penalty)

Spread it around, maybe people will start picking up rangers instead of monks then :p

I'd pick up rangers if they goddamn existed.

[Lemiddar]

Kind of torn between playing my SK or Ranger. I thought maybe hearing about some of the upcoming changes in Velious might help make up my mind. I know for Rangers they gear higher skill caps and get a fear animal spell. However I dont know anything about SKs in Kunark.

No refunds on bows and/or SK weapons! :p But a lengthy conversation about Rangers is always free.

[Nocsucow]

iksar SKs become gods in velious

[Nikon]

Troll SK here. :) One more level to FD. Woot! Also CoS.

Hell yeah to this! Dinged 29 on Nykhan last night. Life is so much better with FD next level. <3

[Anderdale]

Hell yeah to this! Dinged 29 on Nykhan last night. Life is so much better with FD next level. <3

My ikky sk is 10. Can't wait for fd and double attack. Does dmg go up at 20 too? It jumped when I hit 10

[Swish]

All I see in KC when people are discussing replacement tanks is

"no hybrids"

"no hybrids"

"no hybrids"

...but they'll happily take an iksar monk for pulls etc :/

[Nikon]

My ikky sk is 10. Can't wait for fd and double attack. Does dmg go up at 20 too? It jumped when I hit 10

The damage cap does go up at 20.

[Anderdale]

All I see in KC when people are discussing replacement tanks is

"no hybrids"

"no hybrids"

"no hybrids"

...but they'll happily take an iksar monk for pulls etc :/

That all changes with velious?

[Swish]

That all changes with velious?

Not sure if its straight away or patched at some point but yes it'll be just racial penalties left after that :p


"no iksars"

"no iksars"

"no iksars"

...watch the min/max crowd move to that instead :p

[Anderdale]

I never understood why people are in such a rush to lvl up... The best parts of the game are 1-50 imo

[Swish]

I never understood why people are in such a rush to lvl up... The best parts of the game are 1-50 imo

Agree completely, got 3 toons past 50 but never managed to get a toon to 60 here yet :D

[Pheer]

All I see in KC when people are discussing replacement tanks is

"no hybrids"

"no hybrids"

"no hybrids"

...but they'll happily take an iksar monk for pulls etc :/

people worried about low exp but leveling in KC

lol

[Daldaen]

I never understood why people are in such a rush to lvl up... The best parts of the game are 1-50 imo

To each their own I guess.

1-30 IMO is terribly boring for most all classes. Don't have all your abilities/spells your class gets. Unless it's on a fresh box and everyone is wielding rusty weapons and /rolling on fine steel.

60 is more fun than 50s though since exp stops mattering and you can do stupid stuff without having to search for a Rez or waste the 2 hours exping to get that death exp back.

[Ciroco]

All I see in KC when people are discussing replacement tanks is

"no hybrids"

"no hybrids"

"no hybrids"

...but they'll happily take an iksar monk for pulls etc :/

Or they'll gladly take a level 58/59.

[Xelris]

I just.. I can't... wh... dammit.

HYBRIDS ARE THE OPTIMAL XP TANKS.

They just are!
Oh, and anecdotally killing blue-to-56's in KC on my halfling rogue:
54 Iskar monk tanking: 7-8 kills per percentile.
56 Ogre Shadowknight tanking: 7-8 kills per percentile.

The HORROR of that xp difference is staggering.

[webrunner5]

I don't care what race you are. 55-60 is a BITCH plain and simple. :(