Project 1999 Pantheon Pledge Drive!

[Derubael]

Project 1999 Pantheon Pledge Drive!

We are sorry to hear that the Kickstarter project for Pantheon did not meet it's funding, so we have removed the tier reward section of this post to prevent confusion.

We greatly encourage our players to continue to Support Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen. The team over at Visionary Realms has their new website up and running, and are continuing to seek crowd funding for their game so that they are able to bring an experience tailored to the same kind of people that enjoy Project 1999.

You can find the new website here: www.pantheonrotf.com

If you enjoy playing here on Project 1999 please support Pantheon. We feel it is our responsility to give back to a group of developers who have given so much to the MMORPG industry and the people who play their games. This project may be the last opportunity for us as gamers to see an MMORPG that is created to promote the type of challenging and social gameplay that Everquest first pioneered back in 1999.

Help Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen become a reality by visiting their website today!

[Calabee]

introducing p99's new pay to play~! just when things couldnt get more classic

[bigshowtime]

we need a list on what is going to spawned for early access.

what zones will be populated, etc etc

[Kontra]

Early Velious access will have all raid mobs despawned prior to access being granted.

Can we get a list of what mobs will NOT be up?

The named dragons in NTOV wont be up but will all the trash be up? Since they are raid mobs, but not raid bosses.

Tunare wont be up but will POG mobs be up? Since they are raid mobs, but not raid bosses.

[Rellapse36]

laughable

[JackFlash]

I can understand trying to help the effort but this feels weird.

[Auvdar]

Gross :(

[Tasslehofp99]

Hmmm ..

[Sektor]

bout to make it rain

[Packet]

Will donate $500 for unban, and signed contract from the server staff that so long as I play I cannot be banned again.

Ban immunity alone would be worth it.

Will donate $500 to ban him from the forums.

[Classicranger]

If we win a guise raffle, will it go on a character of our choice or just the character listed on the kickstarter donation?

[Kayso]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpraJYnbVtE

[formallydickman]

uncomfortable is uncomfortable is uncomfortable. bad taste in mouth, etc

[Byrjun]

Went over it in more depth in the Velious Beta thread, but I don't like this. At all.

[Nirgon]

Can we have a ban raffle? Winner gets player of choice banned?

Would be tite.

[Brad_mo123]

introducing p99's new pay to play~! just when things couldnt get more classic

I don't understand why you think it's a huge deal. XP pots will help the raid scene get larger quicker with max leveled characters, a bonus in my eyes. Guise is just cosmetic really, shrink pots are quite easy to come by if you use the mask for shrink mostly. Early access to velious won't be a huge deal either because there will be no raid targets up and there are other mobs too that will not pop so there really isn't anything too great to be had. Whatever they can do to help to make this game happen is great because this server is just going to mostly migrate there. All the people who refuse to pay and support something they love will stay here, have fun bickering at each other because us good folk will be playing Pantheon :p

[Splorf22]

I don't understand why you think it's a huge deal. XP pots will help the raid scene get larger quicker with max leveled characters, a bonus in my eyes.

yeah clearly we don't have enough max leveled players on this server /facepalm

I just don't like this. I don't like the RMT nature of things and I don't like pay to win games either.

[phacemeltar]

/weep

[Byrjun]

I don't understand why you think it's a huge deal. XP pots will help the raid scene get larger quicker with max leveled characters, a bonus in my eyes. Guise is just cosmetic really, shrink pots are quite easy to come by if you use the mask for shrink mostly. Early access to velious won't be a huge deal either because there will be no raid targets up and there are other mobs too that will not pop so there really isn't anything too great to be had.

Lots of stuff you can do in Velious even with raid mobs depopped to gain a distinct advantage. Off the top of my head:


Stormfeather.
Plank, etc. for BFG.
Log out a mage at WW/Zlandicar (or anywhere) to coth a raid force in when Velious launches for everyone.
Skyshrine key, CS portal key.
Make and distribute Thurg pots.
Camp valuable loot, including stuff like Holgresh Elder Beads and Velium Amulets.
Get your warriors/clerics in full quest gear to make day 1 raiding much easier.
Farm spells for your guild to have on day 1.


And so on. This is a pretty big advantage for something that doesn't even begin until the $100 price point.

I'm not a fan of exp pots and the raffle items at all, but I'm much more ok with them than the early Velious access.

[Obrae]

I think its a pretty nice idea, especially to encourage a project started by EQ's creator.

Not sure what is pay to win in these little incentives... 1.5 hour 50% exp ?

a chance to win a guise ? a chance to win a fungi staff ?

I am defenitly considering putting some moeny there with the kickstarter perks plus these.


Well done staff.

[Yoite]

oh lord, please dont get all this isnt classic or RMT bullshit on this. This is an emu server and this is an amazing way to spread the word about this great project and to help back it.

[Issues]

Lots of stuff you can do in Velious even with raid mobs depopped to gain a distinct advantage. Off the top of my head:


Stormfeather.
Plank, etc. for BFG.
Log out a mage at WW/Zlandicar (or anywhere) to coth a raid force in when Velious launches for everyone.
Skyshrine key, CS portal key.
Make and distribute Thurg pots.
Camp valuable loot, including stuff like Holgresh Elder Beads and Velium Amulets.
Get your warriors/clerics in full quest gear to make day 1 raiding much easier.
Farm spells for your guild to have on day 1.


And so on. This is a pretty big advantage for something that doesn't even begin until the $100 price point.

I'm not a fan of exp pots and the raffle items at all, but I'm much more ok with them than the early Velious access.

Smart dude here. its obvious common sense but as we see from so many posters, sense is not so common.

[formallydickman]

oh lord, please dont get all this isnt classic or RMT bullshit on this. This is an emu server and this is an amazing way to spread the word about this great project and to help back it.

Hardly a GREAT project, a decent idea at best. These motherfuckers are keen to promise a lot of things, but rarely deliver fully

[Byrjun]

Do this, so it will be hilarious when you find out you're bound at EC tunnel on day 1 velious.

Devs never said this would happen. I can only go by what was said, and that was that only raid mobs would be depopped. Even that is nebulous, will Lodizal be up? Will HoT/PoG trash be up?

Even so, get a Druid and a Mage CS portal keys, and they can easily go set up a coth chain while the rest of your raid force moves towards WW, then coth straight to whatever raid mob you want (probably Zlandicar).

[Mabash]

dat pay 2 win. Gotta love it. Def not classic. Smed Cash shop implemented WAY after release. ~12 years after.

Not classic.

[Renem]

P1999 players are really complaining about this? Pantheon is going to be the thing we've all be clamoring for and it's great that the devs here are showing support for it. You don't want to get the XP bonuses because it feels like pay-to-win? Then don't login for that period. You won't be missed.

[Byrjun]

P1999 players are really complaining about this? Pantheon is going to be the thing we've all be clamoring for and it's great that the devs here are showing support for it. You don't want to get the XP bonuses because it feels like pay-to-win? Then don't login for that period. You won't be missed.

No one is saying that Pantheon sucks or that it doesn't deserve support. I'm all for P99 advertising for Pantheon, fuck it, put up a huge billboard of Brad McQuaid's face in Freeport.

But this is not the right way.

[Obrae]

Stop crying there is no unfair advantages and you can always come here and cry for a tiered system rotation after if it dosent go the way to wanted.

Or call your mommy


whatever :)

[Bakaris]

Love the idea. Getting spoiled by supporting a great game, I am in for all that. I dont see it as a pay 2 win. Besides, who won in EverQuest? We are all winners :D

Raised my backing. Guise on a level 1 SK would actually make me level it :)

[Hoodwink]

EXP pots aren't too big of a deal as long as its a one-time thing
Raffles should only be for no-drop vanity/fun items and not insanely valuable sellable items
Early Velious access should only be for the beta server, or at worst a few hours head start for the release


Just my humble opinion

[Pilgrimzero]

Pledged and named changed. Probably add more for add-ons soon.

[Nirgon]

Ya'll just need to drink a few xp pots and chill the fuck out

[heartbrand]

Can I get some more info about the in game event honoring players and the 5k in game quest? Need some more details before I drop 5k, thanks.

[mnemonikos82]

Meh, it's a slippery slope, but this in and of itself is not p2w. Guise and Fungi are in no way game changers, the main XP bonus will be server wide regardless of if you donate, and the xp pots will be so populous that I really doubt their value will be THAT high. I was already a backer and will not withdraw my support just because the devs have taken an active role in promoting it.

My only thing is that this needs to be a one time thing. You do this once and the server is stable, you do it it 50 times and the server becomes p2w.

[Mehrk]

lol@people saying it's no big deal. The xp pots don't even matter compared to the other stuff. If you think "no raid mobs" means the early access is meaningless then you clearly never played Velious on live.

Guise is one thing, not that I agree with it being given out for money, but prenerf fungus staff?? One of if not the best item in the game but only if you fork out bare minimum 200$.

The worst part of it all is that the chances of the kickstarter succeeding are slim at this point. It's practically free exp pots/early access and a free chance at guise/staff.

Wait... maybe that makes it ok, since you aren't technically paying anything?

[Spacebar]

Wow, so many people crying about nothing here. Obviously xp pots aren't a problem. Early Verrious? I see the argument, but not really... Boo hoo, somebody saw some snow a few days earlier. As far as Guises and Fungi Staffs, come on, really this is just putting them back into the economy from all the accounts of idiots who had them and got banned for doing stupid stuff. At least this way people who recently started have a chance to see one of those items.

[Alarti0001]

yeah clearly we don't have enough max leveled players on this server /facepalm

I just don't like this. I don't like the RMT nature of things and I don't like pay to win games either.

[Nirgon]

Just entered a Mountain Dew code and got 600 xp.

Get mad.

[Rec]

I am going to get the fungus staff and everyone will be jealous!

[sajbercub]

Have pledged $155. My friend Qrix (on the server) pledged $45 :) Peace!

[Clark]

Wow, so many people crying about nothing here. Obviously xp pots aren't a problem. Early Verrious? I see the argument, but not really... Boo hoo, somebody saw some snow a few days earlier. As far as Guises and Fungi Staffs, come on, really this is just putting them back into the economy from all the accounts of idiots who had them and got banned for doing stupid stuff. At least this way people who recently started have a chance to see one of those items.

+1

P1999 players are really complaining about this? Pantheon is going to be the thing we've all be clamoring for and it's great that the devs here are showing support for it.

Have to agree :cool:

Anyone know how the raffle works exactly though?

[Nephazz]

A bit blatant. Also that Kickstarter is not gonna make it.

[sajbercub]

A bit blatant. Also that Kickstarter is not gonna make it.

Not with that attitude! :mad:

[Buriedpast]

What is not allowed?

Kickstarter cannot be used to raise money for causes, whether it's the Red Cross or a scholarship, or for "fund my life" projects, like tuition or bills.

Creators cannot offer equity or financial incentives (ownership, share of profits, repayment/loans, cash-value equivalents, etc).

Projects cannot resell items or offer rewards not produced by the project or its creator.

Creators cannot promise to donate a portion of funds raised or future revenue to a cause.

Projects cannot offer rewards in bulk quantities (more than 10).

Kickstarter cannot be used to fund websites or apps focused on e-commerce, business, and social networking.

Kickstarter cannot be used to fund software projects not run by the developers themselves.

Kickstarter cannot be used to buy real estate.

Projects cannot offer alcohol as a reward.

Projects cannot offer genetically modified organisms as a reward.

No self-help material (books, videos, etc). This includes projects that offer (or produce materials that offer) business, emotional, financial, health, medical, sex/seduction, or other self-help advice.

No offensive material (hate speech, etc); pornographic material; or projects endorsing or opposing a political candidate.

No tobacco, drugs, and drug paraphernalia; energy food and drinks; or nutritional supplements.

No contests, raffles, coupons, gambling, or lifetime memberships.

No bath, beauty, and cosmetic products; electronic surveillance equipment; eyewear (sunglasses, prescription glasses, and others); firearms, weapons, knives, weapon accessories, and replicas of weapons; medical, health, safety, and personal care products; or infomercial-type products.

How does this work? Pixels are made on P1999, to RMT which is sent to kickstarter?

Just curious, I support anything that supports kickstarter

[Rec]

This isn't free to play, this is an emulated server, the righteous entitlement routine doesn't carry much weight.

@Buriedpast you failed the basic logic test. None of it is offered by the kickstarter.

[smokingtrees]

this is weird

[Anasyn Silverdagger]

Pledged-Name changed

[Nocsucow]

great idea .. ill be pledging very soon and YOU SHOULD TO !!!!!!!!!

[KwwBall]

This is ...odd. I've been playing on p99 now for a month or so and this comes up. AFTER I donated $15 USD to the p99 crew because I've enjoyed my experience thus far. So... donate to the actual crew who runs p99 and get nothing, back Pantheon and get cool stuff ... seems back asswords to me. Probably the last penny p99 will see from me ....

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad that I did donate, but this makes me feel like they don't want my money.

[Rec]

what do you mean get nothing. you get to play on the server for free

[KwwBall]

what do you mean get nothing. you get to play on the server for free

You obviously missed the point...

[Rec]

I think you did unfortunately

[Buriedpast]

If you dont pay to play on p1999 you're a twit.

[AexDestroy]

http://www.i-mockery.com/halloween/greatest/pics/scanners4.gif

[KwwBall]

I think you did unfortunately

For the rest of the Kickstarter time Pantheon has why would anyone donate to p99 like I have when you can get stuff for p99 AND stuff for Pantheon with that money?? Like I said before, just seems like they don't want anyones money. Just odd...

[AexDestroy]

For the rest of the Kickstarter time Pantheon why would anyone donate to p99 like I have when you can get stuff for p99 AND stuff for Pantheon with that money?? Like I said before, just seems like they don't want anyones money. Just odd...

just seems like you're upset and confused, honestly.

[KwwBall]

Every time I come on the forums and make legit posts about stuff I see that I interpret as odd / wrong / whatever... why do people like you come out of the woodwork? Oh yea... it's the internet.

[Archestratie]

I'm pledges at the $600 level, does that mean I get the $500 level rewards?

[KwwBall]

Yes. Follow the instructions on what to do to show that you have already backed Pantheon and you will be set once Pantheon is funded.

[Barkingturtle]

So, when Pantheon launches, P99 is going to get shut down in order to funnel players over to Brad's new game, right?

Just kidding, we all know Pantheon is destined to become vaporware. You people are going to buy him a ton of oxy, though.

McQuaid is a cancer. His mismanagement of Vanguard led to the past seven years of WoW-clones. Industry executives saw that even with his cache, a non-WoW game was not worth the risk. He did this. He's the reason the whole genre sucks. He's like a brain tumor. Maybe once upon a time it pressed on some part of the brain and inspired fleeting genius, but eventually it is going to kill us all.

Anyway, I'm done with P99. This is just gross.

[Galacticus]

So, when Pantheon launches, P99 is going to get shut down in order to funnel players over to Brad's new game, right?

Just kidding, we all know Pantheon is destined to become vaporware. You people are going to buy him a ton of oxy, though.

McQuaid is a cancer. His mismanagement of Vanguard led to the past seven years of WoW-clones. Industry executives saw that even with his cache, a non-WoW game was not worth the risk. He did this. He's the reason the whole genre sucks. He's like a brain tumor. Maybe once upon a time it pressed on some part of the brain and inspired fleeting genius, but eventually it is going to kill us all.

Anyway, I'm done with P99. This is just gross.

All the butt-hurt players are disappearing like tears in the rain. Time to cry.


http://somofos.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/bladerunner_6_tearsintherain.jpeg

[Nephazz]

All the butt-hurt players are disappearing like tears in the rain. Time to cry.


http://somofos.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/bladerunner_6_tearsintherain.jpeg

You really seem to love your tears/crying movie references.

[Thulack]

This is ...odd. I've been playing on p99 now for a month or so and this comes up. AFTER I donated $15 USD to the p99 crew because I've enjoyed my experience thus far. So... donate to the actual crew who runs p99 and get nothing, back Pantheon and get cool stuff ... seems back asswords to me. Probably the last penny p99 will see from me ....

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad that I did donate, but this makes me feel like they don't want my money.

the P99 crew isnt allowed to take your money. Anything you donate goes towards server equipment and paying for that. You donating is not putting any money in the pockets of Devs(or atleast thats what they say) So your correct. They don't want your money.

[bigal1341]

Fucking stupid...

[Thrilla]

few questions:

how many winners for the de masks and fungus staff? 1? is it a shared pool between red and blue or are red and blue independent raffles

[mitic]

so we start now to pay for the real competition of eq live? did i get it right?

dont wake kerasoefyrm guys, 3 warders been already killed the past years...

[Oogei]

wheres my 50%xp, we def past 10k

[Fuzzi]

I feel no shame in saying, I dropped a grand on this game then changed my name for the rewards over here.

[sox7d]

ITT: one-upping assholes saying RMT for extremely tangible bonuses is fine so they can appear more mature than the people who are justifiably upset about this.

As long as this is going to happen, I think it'd be hypocritical to ban anyone ever again for doing RMT in-game.

[Fuzzi]

ITT: one-upping assholes saying RMT for extremely tangible bonuses is fine so they can appear more mature than the people who are justifiably upset about this.

As long as this is going to happen, I think it'd be hypocritical to ban anyone ever again for doing RMT in-game.

In fact! We should unban everyone who has ever done anything remotely related to RMT!

[Crawdad]

While in the past Brad's Vision may have lead to great things, I honestly don't know how anyone can trust his "leadership" anymore. I wish him well, however, as we could do with something besides WoW clones populating the genre.

This thread Does make me wonder if forumquesting trolls are Somehow responsible for the servers' funding though. I have no idea why half of you guys are even allowed to Read, let alone Post. It boggles the mind.

On the Plus side, I see a lot of people we can only assume are butthurt over being banned for RMT wigging out over this, so we've got that going for us, which is nice.

[Aaron]

Yuck.

This is where P99 jumps the shark.

[khanable]

So I think I donated $45 the first day this shit was out on kickstarter, but now that I can be showered in p99 pixels, how the fuck do I go about updating this amount to $50 without losing my now sold out super rad OG hip $45 backer rewards?

[Silent]

NoooooOoOOOoo my firepot bound character will be rebound in ecommons tunnel! Maybe you guys could re think which chars get bound if they are in a unique spot as such. Cant wait to slaughter everyone on red when they login to ecomm after velious beta over.

[Champion_Standing]

I can't believe that P99 has reduced itself to being shills for McQuaid. You morons heard them say it last night, they are going to end up working with a big publisher. I guess Brad does deserve one last chance to fuck over his fans.

[Pillow Armadillo]

Donated $100 as P99SkullmonkeyBLUE

Too bad there's such a high barrier for the prenerf fungi raffle. Would've liked to have participated in that for dropping a benjamin. :(

[Massive Marc]

Fucking Lame.

/q

[tehruoh]

No one is saying that Pantheon sucks or that it doesn't deserve support. I'm all for P99 advertising for Pantheon, fuck it, put up a huge billboard of Brad McQuaid's face in Freeport.

But this is not the right way.

Pantheon will be good. Then 2 months later soe will buy it and gay it up just like EVERY other project McQuaid has worked on.

[Kingore]

If we do not meet the funding goal but have pledged will prizes still be delivered?

Also- can a GM comment on kickstarter rules as it relates to this?

[tehruoh]

This is the end

[Rec]

Why would you get the prizes if they don't meet the goal? All your money is returned to you. You are never even billed in the first place

[Korrupt]

this is so fucking retarded, yeah 80 xp pots on top of a server bonus WTF?

[Wildino]

I suddendly lost the interest and the respect i had here.

Helping that cause with funny things like Guise is ok.
Xp pots, early velious access, Fungi staff ... Welcome to farmville candy browser game ...

You cannot have an integrity and "classic" spirit flag in a hand and doin this in another.

So sad, so fucking sad ...

Where to play nowaday ... ? I just want to play ... a game ... . Something out of reality and VISA ...

F... ...

[Rec]

You'll still be playing somewhere where people are letting you play for free and you actually think you have any right to anything.

[Champion_Standing]

So, when Pantheon launches, P99 is going to get shut down in order to funnel players over to Brad's new game, right?

Just kidding, we all know Pantheon is destined to become vaporware. You people are going to buy him a ton of oxy, though.

McQuaid is a cancer. His mismanagement of Vanguard led to the past seven years of WoW-clones. Industry executives saw that even with his cache, a non-WoW game was not worth the risk. He did this. He's the reason the whole genre sucks. He's like a brain tumor. Maybe once upon a time it pressed on some part of the brain and inspired fleeting genius, but eventually it is going to kill us all.

Anyway, I'm done with P99. This is just gross.

Pretty much the best post ever

[Wildino]

You'll still be playing somewhere where people are letting you play for free and you actually think you have any right to anything.

Do I requested some rights ? I play here for free because ... it's free. When i played EQ i paid the liscence.

That's not the point.

[hynch]

P99 logic: Ban TMO for RMT. 1 month later announce a RMT fueled kickstarter drive with Velious as the big incentive.

[phacemeltar]

if only breast cancer got this kind of awareness!

[Zeldak]

Pledged $60, why? Because i hope Brad McQuaid and his team makes a new awesome game :D

[Dr3am]

I can't believe how butthurt people are getting about some raffles and early Velious access. People playing a free server that is donation only on the graces of folks who truly devote their time, then get upset when those folks decide to devote their time to the cause of the person who created the game that they devote their time to?

Are you guys serious? Can you be any more fucking ungrateful? I mean the people that have been banned I can see being butthurt because they are banned and want to have a wedge to drive in at the GMs, but the general population of players? Really?

They should shut the server down and let you all think about how ungrateful and stupid you are. I would be tempted to in their positions, rather than spend my time and effort on a bunch of ungrateful crybabies.

How is someone getting access to Velious early a pay-to-win? Because they can get items farmed before you? Are you all really that selfish that someone getting something before you makes you cry like stuck pigs? If someone gets 7 days early access and farms spells and armor before I get there, then GOOD they are out of my way when I go to do it myself.

Bunch of crying whiners.

[Sinestria]

Just pledged $200 because I think it will be a sweet surprise when I get all this random Pantheon stuff in 3 years after I have totally forgotten about it.

[Aaron]

I can't believe how butthurt people are getting about some raffles and early Velious access. People playing a free server that is donation only on the graces of folks who truly devote their time, then get upset when those folks decide to devote their time to the cause of the person who created the game that they devote their time to?

Are you guys serious? Can you be any more fucking ungrateful? I mean the people that have been banned I can see being butthurt because they are banned and want to have a wedge to drive in at the GMs, but the general population of players? Really?

They should shut the server down and let you all think about how ungrateful and stupid you are. I would be tempted to in their positions, rather than spend my time and effort on a bunch of ungrateful crybabies.

How is someone getting access to Velious early a pay-to-win? Because they can get items farmed before you? Are you all really that selfish that someone getting something before you makes you cry like stuck pigs? If someone gets 7 days early access and farms spells and armor before I get there, then GOOD they are out of my way when I go to do it myself.

Bunch of crying whiners.

Dude, just shut the fuck up. The entire point seems to be very far over your head.

[phocalc]

I am amazed at some of the comments here. Nilborg, Rogean and others started this sever because of the love of the sandbox game. It's their server. They have dedicated their free time, expertise and resources to share it with others. Not one person here has any right to criticize their actions. If you don't like what they've done, just leave.

[KwwBall]

Dude, just shut the fuck up. The entire point seems to be very far over your head.

[Wildino]

I can't believe how butthurt people are getting about some raffles and early Velious access. People playing a free server that is donation only on the graces of folks who truly devote their time, then get upset when those folks decide to devote their time to the cause of the person who created the game that they devote their time to?

Are you guys serious? Can you be any more fucking ungrateful? I mean the people that have been banned I can see being butthurt because they are banned and want to have a wedge to drive in at the GMs, but the general population of players? Really?

They should shut the server down and let you all think about how ungrateful and stupid you are. I would be tempted to in their positions, rather than spend my time and effort on a bunch of ungrateful crybabies.

How is someone getting access to Velious early a pay-to-win? Because they can get items farmed before you? Are you all really that selfish that someone getting something before you makes you cry like stuck pigs? If someone gets 7 days early access and farms spells and armor before I get there, then GOOD they are out of my way when I go to do it myself.

Bunch of crying whiners.

Not sure it was impossible for P99 staff and crew to help Pantheon project without giving P99 some in-game advantages.

They made a choice, and as every choice, you'll have 2 sides. Point.

But yes, internet trulls owoooww omg ass f00k 4m 7h3 b357 u 4ll 5ucx

[impact]

I for one am tired of supporting games before they are even finished. It's total B.S. Games should not be even for sale until they are finished, polished, working correctly, full games. More and more we see this, buy the game before it's finished B.S. NOPE. Finish the game, I will take a look at it, and if it interests me THEN I will support the fucking game. Don't ask me to support some game that I have no idea what it will be like, and I may end up hating it. Why would anyone do that? Derp a herp a

[Aaron]

I am amazed at some of the comments here. Nilborg, Rogean and others started this sever because of the love of the sandbox game.

According to nilbog, he started p99 to recreate as close to an exact replica of Classic EQ as possible -- not to be a sandbox with a bunch of custom shit, as you seem to think.

The issue isn't that they can or can't do what they want. It's the giant hypocrisy that completely undermines everything the server staff has stated over the past 5 years.

Sure, they can do what they want - but they should be called on their bullshit.

[Derubael]

I for one am tired of supporting games before they are even finished. It's total B.S. Games should not be even for sale until they are finished, polished, working correctly, full games. More and more we see this, buy the game before it's finished B.S. NOPE. Finish the game, I will take a look at it, and if it interests me THEN I will support the fucking game. Don't ask me to support some game that I have no idea what it will be like, and I may end up hating it. Why would anyone do that? Derp a herp a

Games cost money to make. If you want games you enjoy playing to be made, vote with your dollars. Particularly independently funded games. For example, Tim Schafer and Doublefine productions made a great game that was almost entirely crowdsource funded via Kickstarter - they made a game their fans wanted to see, something they weren't able to do without that resource. The game was pitched to multiple publishing companies who turned it down. It would have never been made if not for Kickstarter.

It would be nice to see Pantheon get enough funding to not have to bring on a publisher or investors. It doesn't look like that's going to happen (although if the KS starts picking up - and we've seen it happen in the past with other projects - maybe they won't need to) but that doesn't mean those publishers/investors they bring on will change the goal of the project.

Any outside funding they bring in is only going to sign on with the knowledge of the kind of game Visionary is trying to make. As in, a challenging, social MMO bringing aspects of classic MMORPG's like EQ up to date with modern technology and systems. While I agree with everyone's sentiments about big $$ brought in from the outside screwing up games, I firmly believe that in this case, with this clear of a goal, and specifically with such a niche target audience, a publisher isn't going to veer the entire project off course to reach a wider group of people.

That's assuming they even have to take a publisher, and aren't able to do it with investors/crowdfunding instead. Generate enough interest with the Kickstarter, and you won't need a publisher. Anytime someone sees 'hey, a ton of people just paid almost a million bucks for a game that won't even be made for another 3 years', that's going to pique their interest.

TL;dr, support crowdfunded projects, especially ones that are targeted for your play-style like Pantheon is.


Also, please do not turn this into a flame thread. If I have to start pruning posts that should be in RnF, I'm going to start banning forum accounts as well. Go to RnF if you'd like to talk shit please. You can make your own thread and everything.

and a HUGE THANK YOU to everyone who has donated to Pantheon so far!! I was looking at their donate list this morning and a TON of you have already signed on! Keep it up!

[phacemeltar]

The game was pitched to multiple publishing companies who turned it down.

sad state of the world. yay capitalism

[Aeolwind]

sad state of the world. yay capitalism

Kickstarter is actually the epitome of capitalism. Seeking & finding investors. There are companies started every day with private citizen's funds.

The consumer is always right. Whether they pay in advance, or in arrears.

[Sektor]

I donated 300 but there is no way I could show you guys I donated it. Need help pals.

[Aeolwind]

I donated 300 but there is no way I could show you guys I donated it. Need help pals.

Add P99Blue/Red to the name you donated under.

If you donated in the past, and want credit now, Petition Forum.

[Derubael]

Kickstarter is actually the epitome of capitalism.

Well said. Was thinking this same thing myself when I read that post.

I donated 300 but there is no way I could show you guys I donated it. Need help pals.

If you made your kickstarter name p99yourcharacternamehereRED you'll be fine.

[Nirgon]

Just got up and drank an xp pot. Breakfast of champions. Lot of pnutbutthurt and jelly here.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

I'm curious as to why the tiers listed in regards to Project 1999 incentives or rewards are not aligned with the Pantheon crowdsourcing tiers. They use $1,000 and $3,000, then straight to $10,000 yet here is is $1,000 to $5,000. Why not make that last tier a $3,000 tier also, with the rewards being the same?

[Shaniq]

Finally an item mall for P99!

[Ella`Ella]

Kickstarter is actually the epitome of capitalism. Seeking & finding investors. There are companies started every day with private citizen's funds.

The consumer is always right. Whether they pay in advance, or in arrears.

Meehh, the epitome of capitalism would be an exchange of capital for equity, not goods.

[Gaffin 7.0]

would donate but gms wont even unban my first account i had here with first offense 3 years ago

[Sinestria]

would donate but gms wont even unban my first account i had here with first offense 3 years ago

Lol what did I miss? You went from 3.0 to 7.0 real fast.

[Wildino]

What next ? A movie cost money to make so we need spectators to donate and also help write the story ...

[Kope]

First let me say that I donated before all of this happened because I believe, and have hope in the Pantheon project.

I would also like to say I respect that the staff on P99 want to promote this project which is trying to advance something similar to the classic EQ feel in a new way.

What I am actually concerned about is the non classic exp pots used to promote this classic feel game, and to a lesser degree the special in game quest hosted by Nilbog.

If this was done by the other members of the server staff I could understand, most of them at one time or another have promoted ideas that conflict at least partially with the classic feel of the server, but Nilbog? Nilbog has been the hard-line classic feel promoter for the server forever, but now that Nilbog has given the OK for non classic items and quests to be used in the game, but why? Promoting the game for raffle tickets for a classic cool item like the guise or pre nerf fungi are totally awesome, but why non classic things?

This is totally your server, you can do whatever you want with it and I am pleased you allow us to play in this box, but I have to wonder what the logic of you breaking from your multiple year pact for this server you created? From an outside perspective it seems like it goes against everything you've been promoting for years now.

[Byrjun]

They should shut the server down and let you all think about how ungrateful and stupid you are. I would be tempted to in their positions, rather than spend my time and effort on a bunch of ungrateful crybabies.

Probably a good thing you don't run anything.

How is someone getting access to Velious early a pay-to-win? Because they can get items farmed before you? Are you all really that selfish that someone getting something before you makes you cry like stuck pigs? If someone gets 7 days early access and farms spells and armor before I get there, then GOOD they are out of my way when I go to do it myself.

Bunch of crying whiners.

So, I'm not sure if you realize but there's a very competitive raid scene on p99, and that's good because it's part of a healthy classic EverQuest environment.

Look at it this way - what if I could round up 20 or so other people and pay the NFL 100 million dollars to win the Superbowl? I'm sure there would be millions of pissed off football fans all over the world.

That's obviously a bit of a hyperbolic analogy but it's essentially the same concept here. I don't really care if someone gets their Velious quest armor a week before me, but what I care about is that it gives them a huge advantage when Velious actually drops for everyone and people start racing for raid kills. I want to lose on Zlandicar because we were out-mobilized or we wiped, I don't want to lose to Zlandicar because the guild competing with mine spent thousands to get all their tanks and clerics in full sets of Velious gear before anyone else could even zone in. And I won't even be able to see Zlandicar if they don't remove things like SS keys and CS portal keys from people who get early access, since that allows people to circumvent the huge bottleneck that is getting access to WW (where 90% of the Velious raid content is at).

Nah, I'm not flailing my arms around and threatening to quit or anything, I'm just stating that I'm disappointed with the way things are being handled. I'm all for Pantheon getting funded and playing it in a few years, but I don't want it to negatively affect my mmo experience now.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

...That's obviously a bit of a hyperbolic analogy...

[tehruoh]

If you have 5k to drop on a game thats not even made yet your wife or girlfriend should slap the shit out of you and then make you buy her another diamond ring while she sucks you dry.

[Gaffin 7.0]

cant wait to see everyone lvl 60 that buy 100 % xp pots and get it in a 2-3 days

[citizen1080]

What next ? A movie cost money to make so we need spectators to donate and also help write the story ...

Actually yes. They have done this forever. It is what started Angel Investing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_investor

[carli]

Ya'll just need to drink a few xp pots and chill the fuck out


this.

wtb pantheon asap. listening to brad and salim get excited was enough for me. im a nerd just like those guys. i will do all i can to help. <3

[Brad_mo123]

How is the account doing for the server? Don't wan't the server to go in the red but if there is extra Rogean and Nilbog, why don't you give it to Pantheon?

Do some kind of /random or something for the whole server to decide who gets the pledge reward or have no one get it, whatever :P.

[hynch]

Pantheon may be a great game, but I will reserve judgement until later. I do support anyone who intends to return the MMORPG genre to its roots, which is a big reason I was interested in P99. What I do not support is the staff making very public floggings in regards to RMT and then following up with a staff endorsed RMT system. Pimp Brad's game all you want, but it's more than a tad hypocritical to push RMT incentives on the masses even if it is for a "good cause."

[Millburn]

This whole mess just feels weird and perverted. I only speak for myself, but I've lost a lot of respect for the staff with this decision. I hope good things come of this, but I feel like good graces have already been squandered.

[Ennewi]

McQuaid is a cancer. His mismanagement of Vanguard led to the past seven years of WoW-clones. Industry executives saw that even with his cache, a non-WoW game was not worth the risk. He did this. He's the reason the whole genre sucks.

Regardless of the your opinions of McQuaid, the fact is you are still playing his game over a decade later and that speaks to his abilities to create and undercuts yours to criticize. Whether he can pull it off, I think, will be one of if not the most defining moment of his career, if for no other reason than to shut up the Vanguard naysayers.

But imo the bigger picture is being ignored here. The more attention Pantheon receives, while it is in the building stages, the more P99 can expect a population increase both from new players bored with soloable MMORPGs and old returning players who miss group-oriented gameplay. And for what new players P99 stands to gain these rewards seem almost negligible in the long-term.

If you think this is a step back from classic EQ, well, technically so are frog-pots and earthquakes. Personally, I've lost absolutely zero sleep over these things, sorry if you did. And there have also been week-long DDOS attacks and sudden hamster deaths, which I think we all lost sleep over. But if anything, these things have made the server more memorable and added a specific charm to it, classic or not.

Anyway, more recently there have been a lot of veteran classic players arriving on the scene who never heard about P99 before Pantheon, despite previous community efforts to get the word out. And, should Pantheon get off the ground as far as funding goes, I imagine this server could expect more of the same, possibly even seeing classic-era population numbers. Who's going to QQ about a few leftover XP pots / guises floating around at that point?

Again, thinking long-term here.

Pantheon is the long overdue publicity this server deserves. And afaik, it's also the best option for classic trilogy fans in the foreseeable future. If or rather when McQuaid's team recaptures that old addictive magic, P99 will have, with this decision, played a role in helping bring the MMORPG genre back to its roots. What's not to like about this becoming more and more of a RL group effort (SotA included)? It's what the genre itself encourages or at least used to. It's just all around good for the currently lackluster, undifferentiated MMORPG genre as a whole. And once Velious content has been thoroughly plowed through on here and server-wide interest wanes, who knows? We might just actually have a fresh, dynamic, ass-kicking, stretegy-based game to play together, instead of another insta-grat playground which will eventually deteriorate into a virtual refugee camp.

Pantheon isn't the P99 staff's game. They are gamers just as much as we are, only they're the ones holding the keys to the kingdom just as McQuaid will once again imo.

/assist Pantheon

[Renem]

All the folks threatening to leave over this.
http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/stop_dont_come_back_willy_wonka.gif

[Tenlaar]

Regardless of the your opinions of McQuaid, the fact is you are still playing his game over a decade later and that speaks to his abilities to create and undercuts yours to criticize.

Now let's talk about what he's done in the last decade...

[Leeyuuduu]

I for one am tired of supporting games before they are even finished. It's total B.S. Games should not be even for sale until they are finished, polished, working correctly, full games. More and more we see this, buy the game before it's finished B.S. NOPE. Finish the game, I will take a look at it, and if it interests me THEN I will support the fucking game. Don't ask me to support some game that I have no idea what it will be like, and I may end up hating it. Why would anyone do that? Derp a herp a

I think it really depends.

If the game is coming from a major company, then yes, it's just a way to milk more cash and it's really despicable to see major companies breaking up games into little pieces and selling each piece individually for retarded prices, when all that content should really just be in one finished and polished package.

But times are hard for non-mainstream games who refuse to be "everything to everyone" because it's almost impossible for them to attract any official funding and even if they do publishers will shove a whole list of demands down their throats.

The kickstarter way of doing things may not be ideal but if these indie developers didn't have the option of crowd-funding then what you would see is just more DLC/RMT whoring games, not less.

[Mac Dretti]

If i Join the special forum group and get colored name, does it transfer if I get forum banned?

serious question

[Mehrk]

TL;dr, support crowdfunded projects, especially ones that are targeted for your play-style like Pantheon is.

Not good advice. In fact you should never donate money to something with so little information about it unless you are loaded. 60$? Ok, sure, if you really think it through beforehand. Something no one has done by this point as they are still releasing information - important information, mind you - about the game daily, meaning everyone who donates before the KS is about over is retarded or gullible. 5k? Hell no. Give your money away for something you may like, but probably won't because in the end it will either become vaporware or the developer is going to get ramrodded by a publisher and end up turning their game into slop? 800k isn't likely enough to make the game, it's just bait for potential investors to show that their game may be worth making. Investors that will shove their proverbial D up Brad's literal A. I respect and love the fact that they aren't intending on making another cloned themepark but there are hundreds of MMOs that aren't WoW clones that also ended up sucking. If you fund a game based on that alone you'd be broke.

Simple fact is you can't assume it's going to be the best game ever because of who is making it. Using the tag line of "From the guy who made EQ!" is about as helpful as ".... and also Vanguard." is hurtful. Vanguard wasn't complete shit, but it was more or less unplayable for people who weren't very selective and obsessive about their games. I think I saw like 30 people in the 5 hours I spent playing the game on launch day before I quit. Needless to say loads of issues aside from population. That is what investing in something gets you most of the time. I pre-ordered thinking OMFG THE REAL EQ2 HAS COME and only played it for 1 or 2 days before I uninstalled along with 2 friends who were equally upset. Tried again like 2 years later and it was somehow even more quiet. After a few days of grinding I felt like I would never have anyone to play with so just said F it.

I wish Pantheon's team the best and hope they succeed in "the real EQ2" as much as anyone. I just don't see how it should affect individual donors in a major way. I think most people would have been totally fine with global bonuses like a few events with minor bonuses for donors. Minor. Not incredibly OP regen items that you have practically no chance of ever being able to buy (with plat, anyway. Apparently dollars works.) or an entire week to do removed/difficult quests and farm items with little competition in velious.

Bribing people into donating, which you are, even if you say it's a raffle or reward or incentive or whatever you want to call it.. it's just wrong.

[Ennewi]

Now let's talk about what he's done in the last decade...

Whether he can pull it off, I think, will be one of if not the most defining moment of his career, if for no other reason than to shut up the Vanguard naysayers.

[Sektor]

If i Join the special forum group and get colored name, does it transfer if I get forum banned?

serious question

loled

[JackFlash]

What next ? A movie cost money to make so we need spectators to donate and also help write the story ...

Have you heard of Next Alpha? You can pay to help create the game!

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

I'm curious as to why the tiers listed in regards to Project 1999 incentives or rewards are not aligned with the Pantheon crowdsourcing tiers. They use $1,000 and $3,000, then straight to $10,000 yet here is is $1,000 to $5,000. Why not make that last tier a $3,000 tier also, with the rewards being the same?

Two projects I have pledged to.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/461687407/kickstarter-open-source-death-star

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/659943965/planetary-annihilation-a-next-generation-rts

[Lartanin63]

Don't see the big deal with supporting games you think you would like to play. Hell if it works out you don't have to buy a copy later on down the road.

[Pyrocat]

this is gross

[Wildino]

Before : Work hard, spend time, play EQ, feel the accomplishment.

Now : use mom's VISA and win

Still very sad after a 4 hours nap and still have lost the interest of the server. Am online and i feel it so broken, so corrupted ...

[kylok]

SEAHAWKS!~!~!~!

That is all....

[Anderdale]

I don't understand the complaining... Xp pots and a chance at winning a guise or fungi staff... Why does no one complain when gm's do events in game to when kunark ass released and people could get guises and manastones or most of all when they give xp bonus over weekends and such? This isn't very different and like others have said it only lasts for the duration of the kickstarter

[Nuggie]

A month after the raffles everyone will have moved on from this topic and be back playing, in velious beta, hopefully.

[Sinestria]

This is one of the most fucking stupid things I've read. If they didn't want our money, there wouldn't be a Donate button you fucking idiot.

Really? This is the announcement thread not RnF.

[Derubael]

Update:

XP pots and the Fungus Covered Great Staff will be NODROP.

We are still determining via internal discussion how XP pots will be distributed to Kickstarter backers.

I have updated the OP to reflect this.

Everything else remains the same.

[Nuggie]

Really? This is the announcement thread not RnF.

I was thinking the same thing. Deserves a suspension imo.

[Millburn]

Update:

XP pots and the Fungus Covered Great Staff will be NODROP.

We are still determining via internal discussion how XP pots will be distributed to Kickstarter backers.

I have updated the OP to reflect this.

Everything else remains the same.

That goes a LONG way towards amending a lot of what I don't like about this, still need to wipe early access (Beta is fine) clear off the board though.

[formallydickman]

Update:

XP pots and the Fungus Covered Great Staff will be NODROP.

We are still determining via internal discussion how XP pots will be distributed to Kickstarter backers.

I have updated the OP to reflect this.

Everything else remains the same.

Let the backtracking commence!

[Nuggie]

Let the backtracking commence!

Nothing wrong with troubleshooting and fixing a flaw in the system. ;)

[Wildino]

Update:

XP pots and the Fungus Covered Great Staff will be NODROP.

We are still determining via internal discussion how XP pots will be distributed to Kickstarter backers.

I have updated the OP to reflect this.

Everything else remains the same.

Thanks god they noticied there was something wrong. Still need to work on Velious access though.

Support Pantheon. Don't touch P99.

[Sinestria]

Why would you make them NODROP? I'm level 60. What the fuck do I need experience pots for? This is ridiculous.

You guys need to finalize the details or I'm not donating. You got $500 ready to go when this is finalized.

Roll a new toon and have the pots placed on that char...

[Rellapse36]

XP pots no drop? K removing my pledge now

[Lemiddar]

I'm still enjoying the complaint posts acting like everyone donating X dollars gets a fungus staff, rather than a chance for one.

If that's exactly like what RMTers got banned for... give me a thousand dollars and I might give you some plat. (Spoiler: I won't.)

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

I'll say that if I pledged $5,000 I would want more than a chance at a staff. That kind of investment is significant and I doubt it would be a game-breaker due to the minimal number of people I imagine pledging that amount of money.

And again why is the tier $5,000, not the $3,000 the game itself tiers? It is a serious question, it perplexes me as to why the pledge tiers don't align.

[Badwar]

prolly fine, kinda sketch

[Valakut]

any chance of guise raffle tickets for $10?

[KwwBall]

I was thinking the same thing. Deserves a suspension imo.

Ya good point. Sorry for the outburst. I had been stewing a little from that comment and just posted without reading all the other posts, then I saw what the ban hammer man posted about doing that in RnF. My apologies for being like that on this thread.

[Snackies]

Perhaps creating a specific petition sub-forum that people can post how they'd like their no drop rewards distributed would suffice (similar to when one was created for that big item-loss hiccup a yearish ago).

[Nuggie]

And again why is the tier $5,000, not the $3,000 the game itself tiers? It is a serious question, it perplexes me as to why the pledge tiers don't align.

I thought the original tier on the kickstarter was 5k, and they reduced it to get more people.

[kylok]

Update:

XP pots and the Fungus Covered Great Staff will be NODROP.

We are still determining via internal discussion how XP pots will be distributed to Kickstarter backers.

I have updated the OP to reflect this.

Everything else remains the same.

Cry to win at its best =(

[shmyrbob]

Came here to get away from the 'pay cash for "stuff" in game'.

I appreciate the hard work the staff has put into this server but never thought it would come to this.

[Burrito]

Roll a new toon and have the pots placed on that char...

The only problem is that toon will most likely have to be on the same account. If you have toons on a variety of accounts how do the pots get transferred? If this is allowed, how will it be tracked to avoid selling the pots.

And then what happens if you hit 60 before all the pots are used up? Can I still get pots changed to an alt down the line?

So many details need to be ironed out still.

[kylok]

The only problem is that toon will most likely have to be on the same account. If you have toons on a variety of accounts how do the pots get transferred? If this is allowed, how will it be tracked to avoid selling the pots.

And then what happens if you hit 60 before all the pots are used up? Can I still get pots changed to an alt down the line?

So many details need to be ironed out still.

These are only details that need to be ironed out because people cried to the point of these XP pots needing to be regulated. If these whiners would grow up and refrain from questionable practices without needing to be forced to this wouldn't be an issue, and our unpaid volunteers would be saved a large amount of their valuable time.

[khanable]

Wait, xp pots are now going to be no drop?

Do I need to claim them on the character that I put the kickstarted name as?

confused, halp :(

[kylok]

^ Prime example of why the cry babies make life harder for the rest of us.

[Burrito]

These are only details that need to be ironed out because people cried to the point of these XP pots needing to be regulated. If these whiners would grow up and refrain from questionable practices without needing to be forced to this wouldn't be an issue, and our unpaid volunteers would be saved a large amount of their valuable time.

People are going to abuse the system when they can. It awesome that they are trying to introduce incentives to support this game but introducing a system that is open to abuse will just lead to a bunch of problems down the line. It's going to take away from their time anyway. Better to lock down potential problems now before everything had to be tracked and double checked imo.

[khanable]

^ Prime example of why the cry babies make life harder for the rest of us.

excuse me?

[Burrito]

^ Prime example of why the cry babies make life harder for the rest of us.

This isn't RNF. Stop making pointless points whining about the people and start suggesting solutions or creating other useful discussion.

[kylok]

I see your point, but there is a huge hole in your logic - there is nothing to stop people from donating in another players name, making the point of no drop XP pots null and void. It just makes life harder for everyone including the staff.

[kylok]

excuse me?

Not calling you a cry baby - just inferring that your confusion, as well as others, is due to the large amount of complaining that has been going on in this thread against the measures that staff has taken to support Pantheon.

[Burrito]

At least that is a bannable offense- as proven by this satirical post (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137890).

Like you said in that thread

Being stupid will definitely get you banned - I see no problem with that

So hopefully they'll find a decent enough system to prevent it.

[kylok]

This isn't RNF. Stop making pointless points whining about the people and start suggesting solutions or creating other useful discussion.

The only issue I see is players complaining about a staff decision, pardon me for expressing my opinion,

[thugcruncher]

fuck this, fuck you

[Zeelot]

P99 logic: Ban TMO for RMT. 1 month later announce a RMT fueled kickstarter drive with Velious as the big incentive.

This is why I disbanded TMO and quit. Shits gone crazy here.

[Gaffin 7.0]

bad decision, but have fun wit yer little xp pots, everyone will be max lvl and contesting dragons on your poopsock server

[Doze]

I know this will most likely never happen and that it triggers raging hate responses in many hardliner P1999 fans, but I am going to state my wish/point of view anyway.

Personally I couldn't care less about the offered XP Potions or raffles, but I'd pledge/donate a substantial amount for the right to be able to 2-box. Meaning only and exactly that - being logged in with and manually running 2 chars (and no more than 2) at the same time without any aid of third party software.

[Nastinate]

Just dont even know what to say that wouldnt get me banned....
Soon as a dollar amount can be assigned to loot and progression here at p1999 i think of my play time and feel cheated.. like i woulda been better off giving dollar handjobs under the freeway and rmting to platlord versus spending 3 years building up gear and farming loots. This is gross... Im feeling pretty gross atm.

[JayN]

If I donate 10k may i just get a pre-made 60 w/vp loots/epic/guise and fungi staff?

Congrats hawks, thank you Paul Allen for buying us to the top finally!

[Nocsucow]

bad decision, but have fun wit yer little xp pots, everyone will be max lvl and contesting dragons on your poopsock server

enjoy your dead server with 110 people at prime time.. fighting a bickering with the same 15 neck beards over mobs you dont even need... blue > red in all aspects ... btw there is no more poop socking

[DoucLangur]

I do not get the hype about yet another new game. Seriously: Recent computer games suck. And so will any new project until people stop bothering with graphics engines until *after* they've come up with a solid game idea and storyline.

But seriously! Do NOT reward kickstarter donators individually! If you want to give an incentive, stick with the serverwide "rewards". Do NOT give *anyone* extra items, do NOT give anyone early access to Velious (and pre-nerf items!).

It's your server, you do what you want with it - but you're going to piss off a lot of people.

/Slozem

[Ghordo]

introducing p99's new pay to play~! just when things couldnt get more classic

[Oogei]

when will we know how close to 10k we are?

[Rec]

after the kickstarter is over

[Songla]

If I've got an extra $500 kicking around that I can use to help get a game off the ground that might be nearly as cool as the one that gave me and some friends so much enjoyment over the last dozen years, done. Couldn't care less about getting into velious early, a guise or staff would be sort of cool though. I've wasted far more than $500 on games that sucked since EQ1. /salute P99SonglaBLUE.

[Coridan]

Problem is, even if Brad has a great vision for the game, he needs people like Bill Trost and John Smedley to make it a success. That is why EQ2 and EQN both suck/will suck, and why Pantheon will just be another Vanguard.

[Gaffin 7.0]

enjoy your dead server with 110 people at prime time.. fighting a bickering with the same 15 neck beards over mobs you dont even need... blue > red in all aspects ... btw there is no more poop socking

already won blue 2 lvl 60's was enough and im having way more fun on red, the real noc would know *cough*

[Iumuno]

One thing with classic EQ, is that it was an ingame meritocracy in every respect. I really liked that, and the new "FTP" models are a complete turn off to me, and that's what this thing is trending to. It's pretty obvious from reading this thread that I am not alone.

Also, a + server xp bonus isn't really content as far as I am concerned. Long leveling time is part of what EQ was about... It's a huge part of the classic experience. Considering how packed the high end is, why would you want to make it even more top heavy?

Since lack of high end content is the issue, how about a raid targets reset per every XXX$ collected?

[Vermicelli]

A little early for April Fool's, eh?

[Artaenc]

is there a way to check the total amount P99 pledged to date?

[Rec]

no, what we could do is guesstimate based on what people said they pledged but good luck with that!

[derpcake]

Can't I just donate to you guys directly and get some stuff?

After Vanguard my hopes for this game are extremely low.

I'd rather donate to you guys so I know it goes somewhere useful. Even beter if stuff is to be gotten!

[Kayso]

Just dont even know what to say that wouldnt get me banned....
Soon as a dollar amount can be assigned to loot and progression here at p1999 i think of my play time and feel cheated.. like i woulda been better off giving dollar handjobs under the freeway and rmting to platlord versus spending 3 years building up gear and farming loots. This is gross... Im feeling pretty gross atm.

So, if I were offering you pp for handjobs, would that be considered RMT?

[Issues]

you guys dropped teh ball - want pledges? add Primal weapons to a package. and imo dark elf illusion is meh. shoulda been a unique one.

I have a little extra time to work as a Consultant for better money farming ideas. Reasonable fee, shoot me a pm.

[Twowordz]

non trade ><

[Twowordz]

non trade able now how do i un-pledge ><

[Zabekis]

So I want to pledge and get Project 1999 bonuses, but I also want my REAL name to be in the Pantheon credits, not p99nameblue or whatever. Is there a way to work around this? Or will our names be selected via "real name" and not account name for the Pantheon credits?

Not sure if this has been asked already.

[MikeXG]

So let me get this straight, I've already donated $100.00. If i change my kickstarter handle to my main characters name in project1999 I'll get the 100$ pledge rewards? I don't need to do anything else to alert you guys or claim anything?

seems straight forward but I dont want to miss out on rewards :-)


EDIT: I see some backers have p99_name_blue

do I need to do that or is just my character name okay?

[Sinestria]

This is why I disbanded TMO and quit. Shits gone crazy here.

I thought you quit because you were a cry baby that could not handle pixel withdrawl? Glad to see you didn't off yourself.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Will those with early access be allowed to retain their CS, Wakening Lands, and GD portal keys? Or will those be removed (possibly along with the port spells in their spell books) to prevent competitive advantage?

[Kope]

So I want to pledge and get Project 1999 bonuses, but I also want my REAL name to be in the Pantheon credits, not p99nameblue or whatever. Is there a way to work around this? Or will our names be selected via "real name" and not account name for the Pantheon credits?

Not sure if this has been asked already.

This is actually a good point

[ripwind]

and imo dark elf illusion is meh. shoulda been a unique one.

My current mains are a Bard and Rogue. I immediately thought the same when I saw the guise as a reward.

[Isic]

How about a shared bank slot for your account for a $50 donation. I bet you would get a bunch of people donating.

[Elmarnieh]

So the potions are tradable within the account right?

[mgellan]

I think the idea that you can petition to have the pots / loot distributed amongst the toons on your accounts is probably the most workable idea. Dropping them on your 60 main would be silly.

Regards,
Mg

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

I would argue if I did a pledge of $5,000 that I would want the guise, and the fungus staff outright. Better yet, why not like some of these kickstarter games do, allow someone to have a customized piece of loot tailored to them, much the way Guides/gms can have unique items. Obviously the effect:Cazic Touch would be too much, but there are possibilities.

[Mac Dretti]

If i Join the special forum group and get colored name, does it transfer if I get forum banned?

serious question

Also how do I put xp pots guise and fungi staff on my alts. Do I chat w staff for distribution?

[Asap]

Really?

[JayN]

Is it early access to p99 Velious BETA, Early access to p99 Velious release or is it early access to p99 beta Velious and p99 Velious release.

also if you donated and kick-starter doesn't succeed, do donators still get rewarded ?

[HippoNipple]

It would be nice if the prizes could be distributed among different accounts, maybe by emulator account. I don't put my characters on the same account. I would want exp pots on rogue but not a guise obviously.

[KwwBall]

Two projects I have pledged to.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/461687407/kickstarter-open-source-death-star

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/659943965/planetary-annihilation-a-next-generation-rts

I love you! You showed me Planetary Annihilation, when I first saw the video I crapped myself "This looks like TA, I loved TA and Supreme Commander!" <3<3<3

[KwwBall]

On another note. If you haven't watched the twitch stream with P99 crew and Pantheon devs I suggest you do. It sheds more light on the subject, and I totally get why P99 crew is doing this and now hold no ill will towards them.

Kudos to P99 crew for using something that they have put a lot of effort into to help support something that IMO this community NEEDS! I honestly don't think Pantheon will reach it's $800k funding goal, but they basically are "trailblazing" this type of MMO that is specific. In the future I feel there will be many smaller MMO's that are targeting specific audiences like Pantheon is trying to do.

WoW is fun, I played it for years, but it is caters to EVERYONE way to much now.

[Smilkers]

Letting people into Velious early for a fee?
Are you kidding me? Wow.

I'm all for promoting a game that could potentially be amazing, and I have no issue with the other rewards... but the early entrance to Velious feels pretty whack. I just don't know what to think about that.

[Rec]

How is your life different because you have to wait 7 days?

[marshkils]

Is this real life?

[Ennewi]

Name brought back some memories...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/607/1qig.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/gv1qigj)

Pretty cool if it's really him.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Ha, hey Richardo!

[Olacaten]

Why donate to something that you will never get your $ back or see profit for? they just want your $

[Aprisle]

Cool RMT Classic EQ AWESOME

[Aprisle]

Terminus HAHAHA holy crap

[Derubael]

Update:

Players will be able to spread their XP pots across all characters on all loginserver accounts asociated with an eqemulator login. We will have a system of tracking which character you would like which pots to go to, but for now just know that you'll be able to distribute your pots among all the characters on a single eqemulator account.

For example:

I have 3 loginserver accounts, on the Eqemulator account p99eqemugm.

Account 1: p99gm1
Characters: Derubael, Derutroll, Derulina

Account2: p99gm2
Characters: Yodabog, Agentsirken, Ambrotobot

Account3: p99gm3
Characters: Pantheonftw, Ermagahwditsvelious

If I were to donate to the Pantheon Kickstarter using the name p99DerubaelBLUE, I could spread my XP pots among characters on all three loginserver accounts, since they are on the same Eqemulator account.

Early Velious access will only apply to the Loginserver account that the character name you use in your Pantheon Kickstarter pledge is on. In the above example, my early Velious access will only apply to the p99gm1 loginserver account, so the characters Derubael, Derutroll, and Derulina would all be able to access Velious early.

I have updated the OP with this information.

[Nocsucow]

Easy enough

[Bamz4l]

kickstarter only takes amazon? amazon only takes US citizens?

[phacemeltar]

this is gona be a long-ass thread. pantheon sounds cool but its just gona get raped by titan/blizzmoba

[Tecmos Deception]

I love you! You showed me Planetary Annihilation, when I first saw the video I crapped myself "This looks like TA, I loved TA and Supreme Commander!" <3<3<3

It looks cool, but I wish someone would say "We know the TBS genre has taken a hit, that's why we are making a new TBS that will make fans of MOO 1-2, HOMM 2-3, etc., jump for joy!"

[Burrito]

Update:

Players will be able to spread their XP pots across all characters on all loginserver accounts asociated with an eqemulator login. We will have a system of tracking which character you would like which pots to go to, but for now just know that you'll be able to distribute your pots among all the characters on a single eqemulator account.

For example:

I have 3 loginserver accounts, on the Eqemulator account p99eqemugm.

Account 1: p99gm1
Characters: Derubael, Derutroll, Derulina

Account2: p99gm2
Characters: Yodabog, Agentsirken, Ambrotobot

Account3: p99gm3
Characters: Pantheonftw, Ermagahwditsvelious

If I were to donate to the Pantheon Kickstarter using the name p99DerubaelBLUE, I could spread my XP pots among characters on all three loginserver accounts, since they are on the same Eqemulator account.

Early Velious access will only apply to the Loginserver account that the character name you use in your Pantheon Kickstarter pledge is on. In the above example, my early Velious access will only apply to the p99gm1 loginserver account, so the characters Derubael, Derutroll, and Derulina would all be able to access Velious early.

I have updated the OP with this information.

Neat- glad you guys could track all the stuff for the early exp pots.

What about the other plans to manipulate the early access to Velious?

[Mac Dretti]

so if i want my main to go to velious and pots on my alt that are a different emu

im s.o.l. ?

[Rust1d?]

lol how much is Brad paying u guys?

[Elderan]

Why not make a /claim system?

Just add a code that is emailed to the person who donated.

/claim <unique code> <number to claim>
/claim FGGFA-TRRES-UYHS5-KLJS85 5

This would claim 5 pots on that character. Just need to add the number rewarded to a table with the code. People would be very unlikely to sell these this way but would be much easier to claim them as needed.

Could do the same thing for the items.

[Rec]

You are always holding off your 5k pledge for something new

[Nocsucow]

I'm holding off on donating $5,000 to this until I find out what is available during early release and if the devs ever plan on giving a fuck about red99. If I see the devs care about red and want to address it, I'm ready to drop the 5k. Otherwise I don't see the point.

for someone else to care about red99 you must care yourself

[heartbrand]

Who wants to drop 5k on something if you don't even know what you're getting? For example, is lodizal going to be up? Stormfeather? halls of testing? Plane of Growth? Call me whatever you want, but I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask for details first. I mean just look @ the exp pots, some people pledged money when they were going to be tradeable, now that's already been ninja changed to no trade. How would you feel if someone told you they'd sell you a great car for $5,000 but you won't know what options it is equipped with until they deliver it to you. I think you'd be like "WTF?"

[Nocsucow]

Who wants to drop 5k on something if you don't even know what you're getting? For example, is lodizal going to be up? Stormfeather? halls of testing? Plane of Growth? Call me whatever you want, but I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask for details first. I mean just look @ the exp pots, some people pledged money when they were going to be tradeable, now that's already been ninja changed to no trade. How would you feel if someone told you they'd sell you a great car for $5,000 but you won't know what options it is equipped with until they deliver it to you. I think you'd be like "WTF?"

how about defeat nihilum on red then worry about velious....

[heartbrand]

Red is a lost cause, devs don't care. I just want to know what I'll get for my money. what's this epic quest? is it loot? just role-playing? If people don't want to answer I'll be glad to just drop the minimum $500 for the 7 day, but you would think if the goal is to help fund pantheon, that they would want to give as much information about what they're offering for the donation as possible, in order to solicit additional funds. I do sales part time as part of my business. If I sold people by going "yaw ill help you, can't tell you exactly what'll I'll do to help you, but it will help," people would be like wtf?

[Rec]

you can drop the minimum right now and always upgrade later if you really have 500!

[heartbrand]

Yes but for the pantheon package I dont' think you can combine 400 and 4500 for the 5k package unless im mistaken

[Rec]

Yes but for the pantheon package I dont' think you can combine 400 and 4500 for the 5k package unless im mistaken

It will be the total amount you have pledged after the kickstarter ends. Whether you pledge 500 now or 5million now it doesn't make a difference if you change it a day before the kickstarter ends to something else.

[heartbrand]

I'm not talking about for p99 I'm talking about my pantheon benefits. If I sign up for a 500 and 4500 package I don't get the 5k package with pantheon.

[Leeyuuduu]

Why donate to something that you will never get your $ back or see profit for? they just want your $

That's why it's called a DONATION, not an INVESTMENT. People don't go on Kickstarter looking for a ROI.

[Burrito]

Who wants to drop 5k on something if you don't even know what you're getting? For example, is lodizal going to be up? Stormfeather? halls of testing? Plane of Growth? Call me whatever you want, but I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask for details first. I mean just look @ the exp pots, some people pledged money when they were going to be tradeable, now that's already been ninja changed to no trade. How would you feel if someone told you they'd sell you a great car for $5,000 but you won't know what options it is equipped with until they deliver it to you. I think you'd be like "WTF?"

http://i.imgur.com/ezl2ib1.png

Will be interesting to hear these precautions.

[heartbrand]

http://i.imgur.com/ezl2ib1.png

Will be interesting to hear these precautions.

Yaw, how can I be expected to go all in for this without knowing the facts first? This is the only opportunity we have ever had to "decide with our wallets" on p99, and I for one will fully take advantage of that.

[Sponge]

Just curious:

The donation policy on the project1999 website says this:

At this time, there are no rewards or incentives for donating other than keeping the server alive and running. We do not want to give the illusion of charging for ingame items or services, as this would then become a legal issue.

Now that donations do offer rewards - will there be a change in this policy? Any sort of legal implications?

[Mac Dretti]

These are donations to pantheon, not p99. Nice try TROLL!

[Burrito]

These are donations to pantheon, not p99. Nice try TROLL!

I'd like to make a donation to Mac Dretti to teach me how to get glasses as cool as his sig, and then maybe he could give a student like me some plat to get started on a real server like red. As long as it's not a donation to p99 right?

[Sponge]

Yeah, I'm trolling hard by asking a question about the connection between two things written by the p1999 'staff'.

[Tobius]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/45640097.jpg

[baalzy]

Why not make a /claim system?

Just add a code that is emailed to the person who donated.

/claim <unique code> <number to claim>
/claim FGGFA-TRRES-UYHS5-KLJS85 5

This would claim 5 pots on that character. Just need to add the number rewarded to a table with the code. People would be very unlikely to sell these this way but would be much easier to claim them as needed.

Could do the same thing for the items.

Then people could sell their codes at a later date and you're once again back to RMT. This way the only way to 'rmt' the pots would be to sell your entire account to someone.


These are donations to pantheon, not p99. Nice try TROLL!

It's a very valid question because it's still taking something that belongs to Sony (EverQuest) and using it to promote something that, if it comes to light, is likely to compete with Sony products. If you don't think a lawyer can work with this to bring about some kind of legal action with some merit, you're delusional. Even if they don't have enough to 'win' in the long-run, the costs of litigation could very well stop this server from existing.

[Sektor]

Then people could sell their codes at a later date and you're once again back to RMT. This way the only way to 'rmt' the pots would be to sell your entire account to someone.




It's a very valid question because it's still taking something that belongs to Sony (EverQuest) and using it to promote something that, if it comes to light, is likely to compete with Sony products. If you don't think a lawyer can work with this to bring about some kind of legal action with some merit, you're delusional. Even if they don't have enough to 'win' in the long-run, the costs of litigation could very well stop this server from existing.
it wouldnt stick. Let em file.

[Oogei]

Can't believe the shit being said in here , lol

[Breeziyo]

This entire thing.


Ew.

[baalzy]

it wouldnt stick. Let em file.

Just because a lawsuit doesn't stick doesn't mean the party that filed it failed to achieve their goal.

[Lowwdown]

In for a donation. Here is hoping the game makes.

[Pringles]

Derubael - will there be any in-game "help" for those that win a guise or a fungi staff to ensure it gets distributed to the right character?

eg: I will put P99ponsBLUE in my kickstarter, but I dont want a guise on Pons (my enchanter), but would take a fungi staff. If I won the staff, then no big deal, but if i were to win a guise - would GMs put it on another character of mine?

[Pringles]

P.S. I see 144 donations from people with p99 in their name on the kickstarter - not bad.

[Bamz4l]

kickstarter only takes amazon? amazon only takes US citizens?

[qombi]

P.S. I see 144 donations from people with p99 in their name on the kickstarter - not bad.

Needs to be 1,200. Everyone here is enjoying what Brad made years ago!

[Tycko]

Wow

[weh8you]

P.S. I see 144 donations from people with p99 in their name on the kickstarter - not bad.

hahahah 144 sheep:cool: