How much money do you plan to donate?

[loramin]

I'm just curious what the breakdown of spending is. Well, mostly I'm just curious if see if anyone is actually going to spend $1k+ .. but I'm curious about the other levels too.

[Kazi]

Nothing. I really do wish the best to Pantheon, but I won't pay to play anymore and I'm already invested in another Kickstarter project (Fallen, if you're interested).

[JayN]

"$1000-$5000: Brad I want to have your child!"

x3

sold off some family members and cars to do it!

[Tecmos Deception]

zero

This. I don't even give money to the foundations that make those commercials full of kids with cleft lip or disfigured kittens. Sure as hell not going to donate to a kickstarter.

[Millburn]

$0 but that's because I don't have any faith in Brad and don't trust his capacity to make a quality game.

I want it to succeed, but I can wait to find out after it releases.

[Pheer]

kinda wished for a 0 option that didnt make me sound like a piece of shit but okay

[Tecmos Deception]

I'd do it if the p99 incentives were better, but only for that reason. I have no real interest in a game that I can't play for several years.

I'd pay my way to a staff if I weren't poor :)

Really though, when we're talking about the amount of money I have expendable for MMOs, I'd rather forego any of those bonuses at all (even if we ignore the fact that I think the whole situation is lame) and just give my <$100 right to p99 anyways.

[Millburn]

kinda wished for a 0 option that didnt make me sound like a piece of shit but okay

Yeah I feel the same way.

[loramin]

kinda wished for a 0 option that didnt make me sound like a piece of shit but okay

Was just trying to be a bit humorous; hope my captions don't discourage anyone from voting.

P.S. If anyone can tell me how to edit my own poll I'll happily rename $0 to something like "Screw you money-grubbing bastards and/or I have principles and/or I'm broke."

[Pheer]

Was just trying to be a bit humorous; hope my captions don't discourage anyone from voting.

maybe change it to

Screw you money grubbing bastards/The struggle is real

[Swish]

Had already pledged $20 before this all came about.

[element08]

I've backed other kickstarters for games, but just ones that support linux at least in a stretch goal.

[ymw]

I've gotten my hopes up for too many games only to be disappointed. Not buying in ahead, even if it is Brad.

[veejur]

Donated $50 before the announcement. I think I've researched the vanguard debacle enough to know where blame lies and how much was Brad. I still think he's got enough vision and enthusiasm to pull it off. Sounds like from the interviews he's being cautious about how much to include in the first release.

[jaybone]

A team circle jerk thread again about RMT.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Where is 9/11 option

[kuuky]

I'm donating the big nothing! I donate to this server from time to time though.

[Ajkuhuun]

Yeah I feel the same way.

^^^This

[whitebandit]

i pledged 250 myself.. before any P99 related news was announced because, i wanted to donate to pantheon.

mostly because i have a job, dont make minimum wage, and can afford to buy myself things? feelsgood.jpg

[khanable]

There is no option for my bracket because you're awful at making polls

I donated $45 before this pixel party was around

[Auvdar]

i pledged 250 myself.. before any P99 related news was announced because, i wanted to donate to pantheon.

mostly because i have a job, dont make minimum wage, and can afford to buy myself things? feelsgood.jpg

I make well above minimum wage, and can afford to buy myself things too! I'm also smart enough not to blow $250 on a thing that may or may not ever even be a thing..

Also, this server was always based on the integrity of "No donations will ever give you any bonus/advantage in game. Even cosmetic.". Granted this isn't a donation to help the server, but you are still donating towards something and in return getting in-game perks (even if they are small).

So I voted zero. Is this issue a big deal? Not really. But it will leave a sour taste in some mouths for sure.

[applesauce25r624]

where's the "donating to Shroud of the Avatar instead" option?

[MasterKiljaedon]

Sadly lord British had my money. Tabula rosa was an experiment that went a rye but no one made a hard core pvp game better then the Wild West of pre trammel uo. That game was pure bliss in its day. I love eq for it's us vs huge raid aspect it invented but avatar is where I am floating.

The players were the real police in the old uo days. Magic required reagents. Items could be dry looted and 5o dragons released near a guild. Thieves actually able to truly be thieves.

[applesauce25r624]

Sadly lord British had my money. Tabula rosa was an experiment that went a rye but no one made a hard core pvp game better then the Wild West of pre trammel uo. That game was pure bliss in its day. I love eq for it's us vs huge raid aspect it invented but avatar is where I am floating.

The players were the real police in the old uo days. Magic required reagents. Items could be dry looted and 5o dragons released near a guild. Thieves actually able to truly be thieves.

pre-trammel UO was freaking awesome

i hope to shit that LB listens to the people on his forums and makes the game hardcore

i'm sure nobody would donate in the hopes of some candyass game being developed

[Seredoc]

I am going to donate money to the game because I want the game to succeed. However I do not agree with paying for bonus pots which is why, when I do donate, I am not going to change my kickstarter name to my toon's name here.

It's an unfair advantage of money and long term effects of its presence brings disaster so I am against the rewards but for the new game, $50 from me to the new BMQ game inc from next paycheck

[Oogei]

pretty suprised at the results of the poll tbh

[phacemeltar]

zero and zero

[myriverse]

I wish McQuaid the best, but I'm really not that interested in Pantheon... and the raffle prizes don't really interest me.

[Tecmos Deception]

the Wild West of pre trammel uo. That game was pure bliss in its day. I love eq for it's us vs huge raid aspect it invented but avatar is where I am floating.

The players were the real police in the old uo days. Magic required reagents. Items could be dry looted and 5o dragons released near a guild. Thieves actually able to truly be thieves.

That sounds amazing, like a cooler version of shadowbane and eve (only pvp games I really have to compare with). I missed it back in the day though. Would love to see a new MMO roll around some day that emphasizes all the little things (like the reagents and item loot and thieves being more than warriors who fight from behind) that have been entirely stripped out of most games by now.

[Sarajo]

Enough to get in the Alpha (And the only way I can do that now is the $60 version)
Here's a little thing about a player like me:
1) I only donate to winners. 100% success rate for kickstarters and this will be #20.
2) I'm already involved (and invested) in another MMO, which is City of Titans: The Phoenix Project, which is a resurrection of City of Heroes.
3) I want in on the Alpha because I think I, like everyone in P99, deserve some input in the creative process.
4) Played Tabula Rasa from beta to live, until a few months later when things went awry. It as such an innovative type of gameplay for its time(Voice actors using PG-13 words, dying aliens talking shit, crits coming more from skill than luck) but it failed, and I don't know if anyone learned anything they can apply from this failure.
5) Played Wang-guard from beta to live, and I loved it, but SoE or whoever absolutely blew it. Crowdsourcing is such a game-changer, where you're not relinquishing so much control of your "vision" by stupid get-rich-quick(but negate customer loyalty) MBA types.

TL; DR:
http://thedaily400.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/i_want_to_believe_01.jpg
^ Hey look, it's the same thing I posted when Vanguard went live

[August]

Zero.

Kickstarter is a GIANT scam. The name of the game? "I want to raise funds without giving up equity stake". It's crowdsourcing angel investment without giving up anything beyond some trinkets/novelties.

P99 supporting it just blows my mind. Unlike P99, Pantheon is a FOR-PROFIT gaming venture - they're going into business to MAKE MONEY. Why people pay money up front for small gifts instead of actual equity is mind-blowingly crazy.

Now mainstream Hollywood is doing it too. Boo hoo, we only have collectively billions of dollars how can we FUND THIS MOVIE? I know, we'll get 'fans' to shill out millions of dollars for no promise of equity and we'll reward them with a MOVIE POSTER AND A TICKET TO THE MOVIE YEAH!!!!!!

Scam scam scam I hate kickstarter and everything it embodies. I love programs that crowd source actual investment (KIVA) with returns because it allows people to be backed appropriately at an appropriate return rate. Giving cold hard cash for incidentals is akin to donating to NPR or PBS - $50 gets you this tote bag! Atleast NPR and PBS are public nonprofit entities, however.

Yes, I mad.

[Ahldagor]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me9et0MGa11qfrkf9o1_r1_500.gif

i wish them success but the gif says it all

[Nephazz]

Here's a little thing about a player like me:
1) I only donate to winners. 100% success rate for kickstarters and this will be #20.


Sorry to break it to you, but your Kickstarter record is gonna be tarnished.

[baalzy]

Zero.

Kickstarter is a GIANT scam. The name of the game? "I want to raise funds without giving up equity stake". It's crowdsourcing angel investment without giving up anything beyond some trinkets/novelties.

P99 supporting it just blows my mind. Unlike P99, Pantheon is a FOR-PROFIT gaming venture - they're going into business to MAKE MONEY. Why people pay money up front for small gifts instead of actual equity is mind-blowingly crazy.

Now mainstream Hollywood is doing it too. Boo hoo, we only have collectively billions of dollars how can we FUND THIS MOVIE? I know, we'll get 'fans' to shill out millions of dollars for no promise of equity and we'll reward them with a MOVIE POSTER AND A TICKET TO THE MOVIE YEAH!!!!!!

Scam scam scam I hate kickstarter and everything it embodies. I love programs that crowd source actual investment (KIVA) with returns because it allows people to be backed appropriately at an appropriate return rate. Giving cold hard cash for incidentals is akin to donating to NPR or PBS - $50 gets you this tote bag! Atleast NPR and PBS are public nonprofit entities, however.

Yes, I mad.

I can see your point, however I have supported a couple kickstarters and I'm not bothered by it. Of course, the amount I support is equal to what I believe the 'incidentals' i'll receive are worth.

I supported https://torment.inxile-entertainment.com/. I pledged $25 which gets me a digital copy of the game when it releases and I helped ensure a game that I wanted to get made, gets made. Worth it to me.

Now with some things I can see it being a total rip off if you pledge large sums of money. Those are becoming incidental and is indicative of the true flaws with kickstarters. Unless something is hugely popular and can garner small donations from many thousands of individuals then the only way to get large funding is to have a relatively small number of people make very large donations.

[Swish]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me9et0MGa11qfrkf9o1_r1_500.gif

i wish them success but the gif says it all

lol'd, the jerkiness just adds to it :D

[August]

I can see your point, however I have supported a couple kickstarters and I'm not bothered by it. Of course, the amount I support is equal to what I believe the 'incidentals' i'll receive are worth.

I supported https://torment.inxile-entertainment.com/. I pledged $25 which gets me a digital copy of the game when it releases and I helped ensure a game that I wanted to get made, gets made. Worth it to me.

Now with some things I can see it being a total rip off if you pledge large sums of money. Those are becoming incidental and is indicative of the true flaws with kickstarters. Unless something is hugely popular and can garner small donations from many thousands of individuals then the only way to get large funding is to have a relatively small number of people make very large donations.

I have 0 problems supporting indie development or small projects that aren't going to be able to attract funding / be made without some cash infusion. My problem is when we have giant entities who are worth millions/billions already having kickstarters that raise millions -- and I would consider 'Pantheon' to be such an endeavour.

I have given to 4 kickstarter campaigns myself. They were all target goals of 10k or less, and all done as independent or close collaboration products. I have my name as an 'Executive Producer' on two independent films that should be making the circuit. I didn't do it for the incidentals, but to help my friends out.

[skipdog]

Will not donate.

This is the kind of stuff I'd never imagine Rogean and friends would do. I certainly could never have imagined in my wildest dreams that they'd deny first week of Velious release unless we pay $500.

[Trox20]

I might have donated up to $60 until I found out Brad was involved; I'll be damned if I'm going to be burned by Vanguard 2.0.

[Wudan]

I will not donate until they introduce the graphic style. I would have to kill myself if I supported another cartoon bullshit mmo for kids....

and also Vanguard...

[oldhead]

I donated $45.

Will put some more in as it needs the help and I would like a signed Poster for my man cave.

Not going to change my name to my P1999 name tho. Rewards suck. I'll never win a raffle, ever.

[Nocte]

Not that I deny that Brad McQuaid is responsible for EQ and I obviously enjoy that, but he's no golden goose, so there's no guarantee that Pantheon is going to strike gold. I'd rather donate to P99 than to a much better funded MMO that *might* come out in 2017.

(Also, I put my money where my mouth is and donated to P99. Thanks again for the good times.)

[Clark]

Sadly lord British had my money. Tabula rosa was an experiment that went a rye but no one made a hard core pvp game better then the Wild West of pre trammel uo. That game was pure bliss in its day. I love eq for it's us vs huge raid aspect it invented but avatar is where I am floating.

The players were the real police in the old uo days. Magic required reagents. Items could be dry looted and 5o dragons released near a guild. Thieves actually able to truly be thieves.

?????????

[Swish]

I'd rather donate to P99 than to a much better funded MMO that *might* come out in 2017.

(Also, I put my money where my mouth is and donated to P99. Thanks again for the good times.)

If Pantheon doesn't hit its target I like to think people who pledged would put it to P99 instead, in part at least :p

[Heebo]

I plan on plunging headlong into credit card debt for a black name and a hundred bottles of classic xp potion coke. See you in Thurgadin.

[oldhead]

If Pantheon doesn't hit its target I like to think people who pledged would put it to P99 instead, in part at least :p

P1999 needs better rewards =) but they cant cus... problems.

[oldhead]

I plan on plunging headlong into credit card debt for a black name and a hundred bottles of classic xp potion coke. See you in Thurgadin.

If it fails you get your money back and still get the black name :D

[oldhead]

Not that I deny that Brad McQuaid is responsible for EQ and I obviously enjoy that, but he's no golden goose, so there's no guarantee that Pantheon is going to strike gold. I'd rather donate to P99 than to a much better funded MMO that *might* come out in 2017.

(Also, I put my money where my mouth is and donated to P99. Thanks again for the good times.)

Money to Brad or Money to P1999 I can respect either.