Rolling on Red99?

[Iandyan]

I'm posting my personal experiences on Red99 so it's going to be different from a hardcore PVE/PVP player's standpoint as I would rate myself medium casual. I'll play for 4-5 hours straight if I can but it's rare that I have that kind of time. It's usually closer to 1-2 hours per day if that.

I'm putting it out here for any potential casual players thinking about rolling on Red99 to consider. I rolled a druid about a month ago and I am currently level 24. No experience at anything higher than that and I am aware that things can/probably will change the higher level I get.


1) Global OOC - It's amusing to read the shit talking that the hardcore players do without having to be in the same guild/zone as them. If someone dodges the yellow text you can bet there's going to be some green text about it.

2) Low Population/Availability of Mobs - As a casual player it's nice to go after a named/quest mob knowing there is a reasonable chance that it will be spawned and waiting for you.

3) XP Bonus - Not classic but still not as ridiculous as Live or other current MMOs. As a casual player it can be gratifying to see that xp bar move during that 1 hour you can get on in the AM.

4) Community - Honestly after reading the forums before rolling on Red99 I was convinced Sickpuppy was going to chase me around and grief my noob ass till I cried myself to sleep every night.

I've gotten smashed in pvp twice by a twink SK but he was a real champ about it. Didn't make me scoot after looting either time nor did he kill me a third time after I dodged the YT by accident and lost exp. I do realize that this isn't necessarily the norm. I'm letting people know that they're probably not going to have to run around all over Norrath leveling cause you have to keep LNS. There are definitely places to xp if you are worried about twinks jumping on you.

5) Whining about camps - You don't have to worry that some asshole is going to petition about you stealing their camp while they were selling, taking a dump, or whatever. No "oh my friend is in line after me for this guy so it's going to be awhile" bullshit.

5) PNP - Lots of people complaining about the new policy but I think it does great things for the server. It alleviates a potential player's concern about getting corpse camped for hours on end.

6) Raiding - I have never and probably will never raid on P99 but it's nice to know that the raiding guilds are always recruiting. Guild leaders/officers might take issue with this statement but that's the way I understand it.

7) PVP - The whole point of Red. I think it has made me a better player overall already across several areas that I didn't pay attention to while playing on Blue and whatever server I played on in 2000.

8) Future of Red99 - I believe this is the main reason why a potential player would hesitate to roll on Red99. Low server population, people asking for server wipe, and the possibility of Teams99 being released after Velious doesn't inspire confidence that effort and achievement here is going to last. I do think that Derubel has somewhat alleviated this concern by implementing the PNP and considering server repops. I am in no way effected if regular server repops happen but it shows that the GMs/devs are doing something in regards to investing their time in the current server. The same goes for implementing a PNP even if some people don't agree with it.

Anyways I hope this helps a few to make the decision to try Red out.

[Derubael]

A+ post, do you mind if I copy or move it over to blue server chat? It's been a while since we had a 'come to red' post over there.

[heartbrand]

gud post

[Mac Dretti]

Live it
Learn it
Love it

Glad 2 have u

[Twainz]

Sounds like someone met one of Chewie's SKs lol

[Iandyan]

A+ post, do you mind if I copy or move it over to blue server chat? It's been a while since we had a 'come to red' post over there.

yeah no problem.

thanks for the welcome all

[Lartanin63]

+1. Nice post man.

[Swish]

Hardest thing for me is there's hardly a Euro population to be had on red. My monk has struggled since the Thanksgiving bonus XP where groups were easy to come by for a while.

Don't let the red forum trolls fool you into thinking it's like "The Wire" on the streets there. If I had a healer partner for my 40 monk I'd be playing more often for sure :)

[Tecmos Deception]

A+ post, do you mind if I copy or move it over to blue server chat? It's been a while since we had a 'come to red' post over there.

Yeah. We definitely don't get enough red posts in the blue forums already.


Edit - tried to put a :p or something in here to make it less edge, but I can't do it in good conscience.

[Daldaen]

Yeah. We definitely don't get enough red posts in the blue forums already.

The fuck :p

Derubael, +9001 Troll Points.

[Tecmos Deception]

Derubael, +9001 Troll Points.

Staff's newest job seems to be rustlin jimmies!

[Marglar]

8) Future of Red99 - I believe this is the main reason why a potential player would hesitate to roll on Red99. Low server population, people asking for server wipe, and the possibility of Teams99 being released after Velious doesn't inspire confidence that effort and achievement here is going to last. I do think that Derubel has somewhat alleviated this concern by implementing the PNP and considering server repops. I am in no way effected if regular server repops happen but it shows that the GMs/devs are doing something in regards to investing their time in the current server. The same goes for implementing a PNP even if some people don't agree with it.




the PnP was the first major victory for me to consider playing there again. what you mentioned here is another major hurdle that should be addressed. I am playing on blue and enjoying myself in the mean time.

[Derubael]

Totally not a troll. Wish more people could see that red isn't the toxic grief fest that everyone makes it out to be. Even before PnP went in, it wasn't half as bad as people made it sound. Now that there's something in place specifically to protect the little guy, I'd like to see some more people rolling over there to get the box going.

Also, I've been spending my time on red recently, so there is more of a staff presence there for people that need help.

EQ PvP is a blast. People just need to give it a try. And the community is actually really great most of the time - the forums are an inaccurate representation of what really goes on in the day to day on the server.

[Marglar]

the global ooc drama queens are a pretty good deterrent too : P

[Daldaen]

Totally not a troll. Wish more people could see that red isn't the toxic grief fest that everyone makes it out to be. Even before PnP went in, it wasn't half as bad as people made it sound. Now that there's something in place specifically to protect the little guy, I'd like to see some more people rolling over there to get the box going.

Also, I've been spending my time on red recently, so there is more of a staff presence there for people that need help.

EQ PvP is a blast. People just need to give it a try. And the community is actually really great most of the time - the forums are an inaccurate representation of what really goes on in the day to day on the server.

Fantastic. But having the same 5~ forum trolls post in every other thread in the Blue Server Chat section "NOT A PROBLEM ON R99" gets pretty annoying.

And EQ PvP is a blast... for half the class. The other half are stupidly underpowered and not worth playing. I'm not sure how the community can be "great" when the whole purpose is for the community to at some point in your gameplay, hunt you down and kill you...

[Kazi]

Then you spend all that time getting a nice item and someone kills you and takes it. Meh. I would consider rolling if that and pvp xp loss wasn't a thing. If it's not, thanks for clearing the misconception

[Trox20]

Then you spend all that time getting a nice item and someone kills you and takes it. Meh. I would consider rolling if that and pvp xp loss wasn't a thing. If it's not, thanks for clearing the misconception

No XP loss in Pvp and they can only take gold no item loss.

[Kazi]

No XP loss in Pvp and they can only take gold no item loss.

Oh cool :D

[Took]

High server population is fun at low levels and when you have nothing. Hit 60 and enjoy the bottlenecks with 1300 people.

Red99 also isn't as bloated economy wise as blue where casinos are handing out fungis CoFs and manastones. I don't see the challenge in the box anymore.

Faster exp
Less people
No variance
Global ooc
Kill annoying players
camps actually available

PvP deaths = get shit talked in global ooc. People can't XP grief you or loot your items, so who gives a shit if you die to someone. Only thing Red99 doesn't have is the EC tunnel spam.

[Tecmos Deception]

Don't see the challenge on blue anymore? Cool! Red is totally the place to be. You can either zerg PvE and PvP alike, or you can get zerged!

Literally every one of the things you listed about red as a positive is at least as negative. Faster xp = no lowbies to play with. Fewer people = no one to play with. No variance = Nihi locks down the raid scene tighter than TMO ever did. Global ooc = bitchfest. Kill annoying players = get killed by annoying players. Camps actually available = get ganked when you're soloing it cause there's no one to group with.

There's a good reason why blue has 5-10x the pop of red at any given minute of the day, and it's not because red is a place worth being.

[Took]

Hey if you wanna be a glass half empty type of person go for it.

Was level 9 last thursday, currently 43. Can't say anything you've mentioned has happened to me in that time leveling.

And no there is zero challenge left on blue. Tookie is handing out CoF's, manastones and fungis in EC and Chardok AoE groups run 24/7 selling PL spots for 2.5k a pull.

Please tell me how that is "challenging" because I would love to hear it. The only challenge left on blue is tracking for enough DKP to eventually bid on your epic no drops.

[Took]

There's a good reason why blue has 5-10x the pop of red at any given minute of the day, and it's not because red is a place worth being.

Blue has the higher population because it's easier and has the majority of the development team focusing on it.

You come off as one of those people that's bitter and angry at the very existence of a PvP server.

[citizen1080]

Totally not a troll. Wish more people could see that red isn't the toxic grief fest that everyone makes it out to be. Even before PnP went in, it wasn't half as bad as people made it sound. Now that there's something in place specifically to protect the little guy, I'd like to see some more people rolling over there to get the box going.

Also, I've been spending my time on red recently, so there is more of a staff presence there for people that need help.

EQ PvP is a blast. People just need to give it a try. And the community is actually really great most of the time - the forums are an inaccurate representation of what really goes on in the day to day on the server.

Let us blue players copy a character or two over to red and you will have more players than you can shake a stick at.

Being able to play one of my toons on red while staring at a spawn on blue is very enticing. However, personally I am too invested into blue at this point to restart on red.

I know this has been suggested before by myself and others but it would bring red pop from 80ish to 500+ over night.

While this wouldn't be overly fair to the few players like the OP who are actually starting from scratch on the server, overall it would be a good thing for the server.

You could limit transferred toons to sub 55 or 50 if you wanted and I still think people would sign up in droves.

[heartbrand]

Let us blue players copy a character or two over to red and you will have more players than you can shake a stick at.

Being able to play one of my toons on red while staring at a spawn on blue is very enticing. However, personally I am too invested into blue at this point to restart on red.

I know this has been suggested before by myself and others but it would bring red pop from 80ish to 500+ over night.

While this wouldn't be overly fair to the few players like the OP who are actually starting from scratch on the server, overall it would be a good thing for the server.

You could limit transferred toons to sub 55 or 50 if you wanted and I still think people would sign up in droves.

[Rec]

pvp is fine, having no one to play with not fine

[Clark]

Many good points; nice post.

[Gaffin 7.0]

Live it
Learn it
Love it

Glad 2 have u

[raitheon]

The only thing that it would take for me to roll Red would be a personal invite from Samwise.

Love that guy's posts.

[Twainz]

Let us blue players copy a character or two over to red and you will have more players than you can shake a stick at.

Being able to play one of my toons on red while staring at a spawn on blue is very enticing. However, personally I am too invested into blue at this point to restart on red.

I know this has been suggested before by myself and others but it would bring red pop from 80ish to 500+ over night.

While this wouldn't be overly fair to the few players like the OP who are actually starting from scratch on the server, overall it would be a good thing for the server.

You could limit transferred toons to sub 55 or 50 if you wanted and I still think people would sign up in droves.

/signed

I play both. I got 60 faster on blue than on red because of the insane amounts of PLs. I like playing on both servers and I recommend playing both. 2 Monitors makes it easy to farm on blue waiting for spawns while PvPing on red.

[fadetree]

It is even possible to play a ranger on red?

[Twainz]

It is even possible to play a ranger on red?

Lots of Rangers on red. Rangers have become more and more popular actually. There was only 2 for a very long time. Now I know of at least 5 active rangers :D