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PM Dolic, Fael, Mazzarin, etc
Wow, Wrong forum. But perhaps worthy of a rant in and of itself.
Dolic
Twainz
02-06-2014, 01:22 PM
Faeled. Wrong section!
Dr. Edge
02-06-2014, 02:26 PM
Only 63k?
If I created a character right now how many years would that take to get?
radditsu
02-06-2014, 02:43 PM
The time it takes you to get to 60 , get a fungi king group, and camp a fungi/sell it.
Tiggles
02-06-2014, 03:03 PM
Only 63k?
If I created a character right now how many years would that take to get?
Casual Trash
The time it takes you to get to 60 , get a fungi king group, and camp a fungi/sell it.
Wrench
02-06-2014, 03:15 PM
Faeled. Wrong section!
i c what u did there
pure genius
Shannacore
02-06-2014, 03:39 PM
Only 63k?
If I created a character right now how many years would that take to get?
Depends on how much of your time is spent being lost on baccalaureate level IT homework imo
Origin
02-06-2014, 03:57 PM
Tree fiddy
Juevento
02-06-2014, 04:22 PM
Such an overpriced/overrated weapon. I chuckle whenever I see another rogue walking around with one of these.
Heebo
02-06-2014, 04:33 PM
Such an overpriced/overrated weapon. I chuckle whenever I see another rogue walking around with one of these.
I know, right? It's like, just get your epic and vp key at level 1 like the rest of us, dummy.
Juevento
02-06-2014, 04:47 PM
Or save 40-50k and get a croaking dirk for offhand. It's a superior DPS weapon. EoN is way to slow to use in combination with epic. You get more base melee dmg from a faster offhand weapon.
Cecily
02-06-2014, 04:49 PM
Quit making fun of people too poor to afford a croaking dirk. Maybe all they can afford is an edge.
Nirgon
02-06-2014, 05:04 PM
Or save 40-50k and get a croaking dirk for offhand. It's a superior DPS weapon. EoN is way to slow to use in combination with epic. You get more base melee dmg from a faster offhand weapon.
-_o
U w0t m8
Min maxing pve content lol
sulpher01
02-06-2014, 06:28 PM
Min maxing pve content lol
Playing pvp at all in eq lol
Tecmos Deception
02-06-2014, 06:30 PM
Or save 40-50k and get a croaking dirk for offhand. It's a superior DPS weapon. EoN is way to slow to use in combination with epic. You get more base melee dmg from a faster offhand weapon.
Heh.
Tecmos Deception
02-06-2014, 06:31 PM
You sure you have a 60 rogue, J?
Juevento
02-06-2014, 06:35 PM
EQ PvP is great. I wish there was a guild PvP or team based PvP server. I'd be there in a heartbeat. It feels like a more natural/appropriate way to settle disputes than nerd raging on RnF.
That said, there is nothing wrong with making the best use of your gear to make yourself the most efficient player possible.
Juevento
02-06-2014, 06:36 PM
You sure you have a 60 rogue, J?
Well to be honest, I use a ragebringer for offhand.
khanable
02-06-2014, 06:39 PM
EoN looks cooler though
fuck yo stats and dps
I wear a noble's robe on my cleric cause she's god damned fabulous in it
baalzy
02-06-2014, 07:35 PM
Or save 40-50k and get a croaking dirk for offhand. It's a superior DPS weapon. EoN is way to slow to use in combination with epic. You get more base melee dmg from a faster offhand weapon.
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If that's how you play you're doing it wrong.
Offhand is only about ratio.
With that said. SCD has the same ratio & the stats won't matter at 60 while the SCD gives you better saves, so at the high-end its better. While leveling up and you don't have access to raid-buffs the extra Str will give you a minor advantage. Not big enough to be worth spending an extra 50k in my opinion though.
The only other class that would really want to use this would be rangers and for them it's the best there is until VP/Epic/Sky 2.0. BOTGDE comes close though for 1/3rd the cost.
And doing this research i realized the fayguard parrying dagger is probably the best main-hand DPS for a ranger (ignoring the lol-get-me-killed proc). I've now made it my mission to get one of these on a level 1 ranger.
Cecily
02-06-2014, 07:41 PM
._.;
If that's how you play you're doing it wrong.
Offhand is only about ratio.
With that said... blah blah blah
Agreed with you up to there.
Juevento
02-06-2014, 08:07 PM
Well like I said I roll with RB offhand. So even better ratio.
I would still maintain based on the limited studying I've done of EoN vs croaking dirk tells me that the faster weapon is better. Either weapon isn't a terrible choice but based on my experience, I much prefer the dirk.
MaksimMazor
02-06-2014, 08:08 PM
16/26 RSSS is slower and superior to an SCD
Juevento
02-06-2014, 08:11 PM
Yeah but that's due to the dmg/delay ratio being better to the dirk. That slower speed doesn't matter at that point.
Juevento
02-06-2014, 08:12 PM
If the thornstinger was an offhand weapon it would be much better than your 16/26 weap even though the ratios are in the same ballpark.
Cecily
02-06-2014, 08:13 PM
At what point does it stop mattering?
Thana8088
02-06-2014, 08:15 PM
Ummmm, I'd just like to add that I have a dirk for sale, cheap! :D
Tecmos Deception
02-06-2014, 08:15 PM
If the thornstinger was an offhand weapon it would be much better than your 16/26 weap even though the ratios are in the same ballpark.
I'd love to hear your explanation of why a faster weapon with the same ratio makes for a better offhand.
MaksimMazor
02-06-2014, 08:35 PM
When your duelist offhand hits for 200s let me know why faster is better
Juevento
02-06-2014, 09:03 PM
During a 12 second duelist cycle you would get 6 rounds of offhand attacks with a 19 delay weapon. With a 26 delay weapon that is only 4 rounds. That that's up to 4 extra swings with duelist dmg. I think the highest hit I've seen with offhand is 140ish. So for shits and grins let's say that all hits are max dmg. 6 rounds of 140 dmg with all dbl attacks going is 1680 dmg. With 4 rounds at 200 that same calculation gives you 1600 dmg.
Not a huge difference but it's something.
Don't get mesmerized by the big numbers. Speed kills.
Cecily
02-06-2014, 09:11 PM
Or you could just pick the weapon with the best ratio for offhand.
Who knew rogueing theory could be so controversial.
MaksimMazor
02-06-2014, 10:20 PM
I'm sry I meant 225 max hit
baalzy
02-07-2014, 04:10 PM
So you claim that base damage is better with a fast off-hand and then you back that up by using a discipline?
http://rosssimmonds.com/WP/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/jackie-chan.jpg
Tiggles
02-07-2014, 05:19 PM
This is some serious class R problems.
Ohh what shit EC weapon do I buy waaahh.
Get a RSSS and a PD katana for resists and your gold.
hatelore
02-07-2014, 06:00 PM
If you spent less time rolling through stop signs and having your car towed.... Maybe we would invite you to be a cool casual like us~
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