What hybrid will you roll when Velious is released?

[mnemonikos82]

With the hybrid Xp penalty going away in Velious, I'm curious how many people will be rolling alts or new mains (I think this may help people decide what to roll if they know where the overcrowding will be).

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Paladin because they're awesome.

[1203jjt]

I already have a sk, but I might play him more. My main is a bard...I haven't let the penalty keep me from playing what I wanted.

[Detoxx]

Ranger, Snare >> Panic Animal: GG

[KwwBall]

It's going away for real? Confirmation?

I wanted to hit 60 on my paladin before it went away... well, woohoo for faster leveling I guess!

[Daldaen]

I don't recall how it was handled back in the day, but players should randomly be given the levels they earned IMO.

If a hybrid is 40% more exp. And at level 20 a player has 100,000 experience points but a hybrid with 100,000 is only 16, they should get bumped up from 16-20 on their next kill once the penalty is removed. That would be neat.

[NextGenesis88]

Well you better roll it ahead of time because you want to be 30-35 come Velious! My Troll SK is about to ding 30 and even with a 68% xp penalty it wasn't that bad... I'm telling ya a good group and you are just fine. EQ is just slow as shit no matter what you do from troll sk to 50% bonus XP. If you enjoy your character you don't notice the penalty nearly as much in my experience.

[baalzy]

I don't recall how it was handled back in the day, but players should randomly be given the levels they earned IMO.

If a hybrid is 40% more exp. And at level 20 a player has 100,000 experience points but a hybrid with 100,000 is only 16, they should get bumped up from 16-20 on their next kill once the penalty is removed. That would be neat.

They handled it by applying an individual bonus equal to the penalty for the class when xp is distributed and then adjusting the group xp-distribution method to hand out xp based on level, not total experience gained.

The main reason being they didn't want level 40's shooting up to level 53 and having gimp skills (tho with the number of powerlevelers I doubt that'd actually be a concern for most people here).

Whether or not the devs implement it this way or not I don't know. They could just as easily remove a % of total experience from the character that would have been attributed to the penalty and then move to a table appropriate for their race to achieve the same goal.

The hybrid penalty should be removed roughly 45 days after Velious launches.

[fadetree]

I will be waking my 52 ranger back up.

[SamwiseRed]

ranger, halfling type if and when its available.

[Bazia]

beastlord

[Ele]

ranger, halfling type if and when its available.

Never, not classic.

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March 19, 2002
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- Halflings and Gnomes have new classes available to them: Halfling
Rangers and Paladins as well as Gnome ShadowKnights and Paladins. All
of the necessary NPCs and items should be available for these new
classes

[SamwiseRed]

before luclin, after velious. i vote classic.

[SamwiseRed]

Never, not classic.

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March 19, 2002
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- Halflings and Gnomes have new classes available to them: Halfling
Rangers and Paladins as well as Gnome ShadowKnights and Paladins. All
of the necessary NPCs and items should be available for these new
classes

also with that logic all patch changes after velious release would not be classic.

[myriverse]

I already have a sk, but I might play him more.

[Ele]

also with that logic all patch changes after velious release would not be classic.

up to luclin release, but not including luclin = classic

[Ele]

before luclin, after velious. i vote classic.

On what planet?

Release date(s) December 4, 2001

[reborn649]

wtb halfling ranger

[sox7d]

I rolled a paladin last night

quit being pussies

[Frieza_Prexus]

Never, not classic.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/714320/fuck-yo-couch-o.gif

also with that logic all patch changes after velious release would not be classic.

On what planet?

Release date(s) December 4, 2001

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/2177980/charlie-murphy-slap-o.gif

[snoopiku]

I made my ranger a couple nights ago. He's 14 already. Go go bone chips, CB belts, and gnoll fangs (all farmed with the ranger himself...I ain't buying nothing).

But having read these comments, I hope they give me a little boost of exp once Velious comes out...

[whitebandit]

Gonna finally finish leveling my bard Once/If the Penalty is removed... boy do i love me some bard action.

[Ciroco]

I think people overestimate how awesome panic animal is.

[SamwiseRed]

naw

[Vallanor]

I sorta quit playing my paladin because of the penalty. I'll probably pick him back up after it's removed. Might make an SK too. So I voted SK.

[Heebo]

Beastlord

[Grubbz]

Rangers are gay.

[Danth]

WTB a medal for folks who leveled their hybrid to 60 before Velious!

I suppose I might make another Paladin, but that may be excessive since I have three of them on my account as it is, plus a 60 SK.

Danth

[M.J.]

Ranger or Bard for Stormfeather.

[fadetree]

I think people overestimate how awesome panic animal is.

Play a ranger for 50 levels without it and you'll think its awesome.

[Danth]

Miss grouping with you Fadetree (on my SK). Hope to see you more post-Velious. I still think Rangers get a lot of flak here they don't deserve.

Danth

[baalzy]

before luclin, after velious. i vote classic.

Luclin was Dec. 2001.

PoP was Oct. 2002.

[Ciroco]

Play a ranger for 50 levels without it and you'll think its awesome.

I'm level 55.

[Swish]

Luclin was Dec. 2001.

PoP was Oct. 2002.

Can you imagine that timeline on P99? It would all be going past way too quick :p

[Glain]

I will be returning on my 49 sk Ranos once the lift happens

[Bigsauce]

I would possibly make a Ranger, but would toss up between that and other non-hybrid. I used to main Ranger, though, and miss the utility.

[baalzy]

I'll be leveling a ranger once I twink him to my liking. If that happens before Velious, so be it.

[Asap]

My SK is fully geared waiting for velious lol

[Swish]

Based on all the SKs that'll be floating around, now is probably a good time to level a healer if you've always wanted to.

[TanDemain]

Now I know why I've been gearing up a Paladin and Ranger...

[SamwiseRed]

i need about 5 other rangers when velious drops. gonna have a 6 ranger guild that will group together to fight evil.

i call dibs on green tho.

[radditsu]

Can you only use bard/rng singing daggers?

[webrunner5]

Will be on my Ikky SK.

[Pan]

On live, you could sure tell who the "panic animal" rangers were.

Likely won't be the case as much here.

[sox7d]

when i was 10, i panic animal'd solo in iceclad/eastern-wastes 34-48. i think it gave my character a badass background story though when i hit 60.

"He mastered his tracking and combat skills in his years in the frozen tundra, living off the unforgiving land, tracking down cougars, rhinos and mammoths and wearing their claws as jewelry."

[Bigsauce]

when i was 10, i panic animal'd solo in iceclad/eastern-wastes 34-48.

I did that too! And getting donations from necros/mages soloing giants selling off fine steel weapons for them.

[NextGenesis88]

Like I said earlier, I have a Troll SK up to 30 and it's really not that bad with the penalty. Of course I really like my character and the play style so that really helps along with playing in groups of fast pulling and skilled players.

[Pheer]

70 ranger weapon shield rotation on AoW, everybody get your ranger alts leveled quick

[formallydickman]

not bard. Probably finish my ranger (43) off then paladin (25)

[Byrjun]

I shelved my 48 Iksar SK until Velious, so that one.

[Clark]

Maybe Shadow Knight.

Prolly a Ranger for tracking too. Maybe more than one.

[Swish]

Is there anything "extra" to make anyone want to roll a paladin in Velious?

[Hiero]

The hybrid penalty should be removed roughly 45 days after Velious launches.

how many years is that in p99 time: :eek:

[Danth]

Is there anything "extra" to make anyone want to roll a paladin in Velious?

My own take on it (Paladin being my favorite EQ class) amounts to this: If you already like the Paladin, Velious makes your life somewhat better due to various detail improvements. If you're not a Paladin enthusiast, there's still precious little reason to play one, particularly at very high levels. Fundamentally they have the same role as always and (outside a modest hit point buff) still lack much of a purpose in raids. I have several of them on my account, including my forum namesake, but I don't really plan on taking any of them all the way to 60. There's not a lot of undead in Velious, and lots of stun-immune creatures (giants, etc). I'd still rather use my Shadow Knight for maximum level content and keep my Paladins as alts for various level ranges where the class is in its element.

Of the hybrids, I'd say Rangers gain the most from Velious. Bards are highly useful already during Kunark, and Shadow Knights are at least serviceable. Rangers and Paladins both fare poorly during Kunark but Rangers proportionally gain more than Paladins do with Velious.

Danth

[myriverse]

how many years is that in p99 time: :eek:
45 days = 64800 mins

72 mins per Norrath day.

64800/72 mins = 900 days Norrath Time

So, about... 2.5 years Norrath Time.

[Jarnauga]

pally is 51, still a pain to level with full planar + epic

Can't wait for verious

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Paladin's get brells and mana intensive group heals. It's something :3

[Nocsucow]

that poll shows atleast 100+ pussies who couldnt handle the challenge of lvling a hybrid the normal way ...

[HeallunRumblebelly]

that poll shows atleast 100+ pussies who couldnt handle the challenge of lvling a hybrid the normal way ...

Eh, your sig doesn't show any either :P Some of us just like answering polls. Also, we both chardok AE, so I mean, it's only kind of leveling a hybrid :P

[Nocsucow]

Eh, your sig doesn't show any either :P Some of us just like answering polls. Also, we both chardok AE, so I mean, it's only kind of leveling a hybrid :P

i dont put my other chars on there because the are shelved till velious i got my 1 hybrid i lvled without chardok AoE and thats the worst one of them all

[webrunner5]

I never played a Paladin in Velious but I remember them being good pullers in Kael.

[FindCorpse]

Got that whole ranger thing taken care of already but I hear they get better as ranged attackers in velious. Never played one during that time period so I am excited for the next expansion.

[twizztid]

I don't recall how it was handled back in the day, but players should randomly be given the levels they earned IMO.

If a hybrid is 40% more exp. And at level 20 a player has 100,000 experience points but a hybrid with 100,000 is only 16, they should get bumped up from 16-20 on their next kill once the penalty is removed. That would be neat.

What about the people who don't carry a purse and grinded that shit real to 60 ? Do we get a extra few levels for being boss ?

[Byrjun]

Got that whole ranger thing taken care of already but I hear they get better as ranged attackers in velious. Never played one during that time period so I am excited for the next expansion.

Not really. That's mainly Luclin.

You get a disc that brings your bow damage up to about equal to your melee (maybe), but it's mostly a gimmick. You'll still be meleeing 95%+ of the time.

[Ragranok]

I've seen a couple people say Beastlord. As we all, or maybe not all, know it didn't come out until Luclin. Is there something I'm missing? Will BST be available?

[webrunner5]

I've seen a couple people say Beastlord. As we all, or maybe not all, know it didn't come out until Luclin. Is there something I'm missing? Will BST be available?

Wishful thinking. Although one of my favorite classes on live. :eek:

[Ragranok]

Wishful thinking. Although one of my favorite classes on live. :eek:
By far and away the most enjoyable class I've ever played. Basically can't play any other MMO because there isn't one like it.

[twizztid]

By far and away the most enjoyable class I've ever played. Basically can't play any other MMO because there isn't one like it.


Most new mmo s are fast mob kills, this game allows bst to do what it can. And no, no bst in velious ppl. sorry =\

[BahamutDF]

Bard and SK.

[Twelveguage]

personally i already made a sk iksar just so i could say for my own epeen that i leveled him some before the penalty went away cause as we all know...EPEEN IS EVERYTHING!!!...also i might be a masochist...

PS.

+1 to beastlords being released in velious instead of luclin....if rogean were a wishing well, i would fling a billion pennies at him to make this happen

[baalzy]

personally i already made a sk iksar just so i could say for my own epeen that i leveled him some before the penalty went away cause as we all know...EPEEN IS EVERYTHING!!!...also i might be a masochist...

PS.

+1 to beastlords being released in velious instead of luclin....if rogean were a wishing well, i would fling a billion pennies at him to make this happen

It's been said that custom-content after all velious era content goes in isn't off the table (meaning after stonebrunt, warrens, plane revamps, chardok 2.0 ect... basically all patches up to the Luclin patch).

Nilbog's already hinted at adding in some of the powerful AA abilities as another epic quest type thing (such as Endless Quiver for a ranger).