On the topic of teams...

[Faerie]

What do you guys think this means? From Alecta thread:

Merge Rules

Determine rules for T99 into R99 (names)
Determine rules for R99 into T99 (names, teams, gear, etc.)

Are the servers to be merged into one another (copies on both)? Is the plan to continue along with 2 pvp servers and the one blue server?

The best route to go imo would be to merge blue and red into a 4 level +/- pvp server, and then a week or two later release teams starting with no expansions, no copies or transfers. This way we'd end up with 2 decently populated pvp servers, which would both be objectively better than the blue server.

[Bazia]

Teams was a troll, move on like everyone else did 6 months ago.

[Tradesonred]

I think if a teams server opens up, it will split the population in half, the teams server being much harder to pull off than a FFA one will result in a disaster and both servers will ultimately be fubared for good.

[Faerie]

http://i.imgur.com/60BHhWG.jpg

[Laugher]

Needs more discord server

[Tradesonred]

Being a realist and being negative are 2 different things

[Azure]

I agree 100% with Faerie on this.

Being a realist and being negative are 2 different things

you are a negative realist? Nawwww you don't take into account all the facts, just your own personal perspective... not a realist. Your an IDEALIST. and not in a good way... as not all ideas are smart :P

Needs more discord server

also this IMO 2

[Squire]

teams + item loot would be fun as fuck

[Pudge]

i hope they delete red99 and all the toons.

then have teams be the only pvp option in all the world, when it launches.

[Squire]

i hope they delete red99 and all the toons.

then have teams be the only pvp option in all the world, when it launches.

everyone would play it except like 20-50 hardcore nilly. doesn't matter.

[Faerie]

boooo teams r for bad players booooooooooo

You could take your team to the top, Chewie.

[Faerie]

pass, not immersive enough

More like you're scared.

[Squire]

but then you'd have an RP reason for never going 3 zones from grobb

[Faerie]

whos squire

Some bluebie with a big mouth.

[Hatwer]

you know what other games have teams pvp? wow and starwars. have at it, teams fans

ffa is better because if someone's attacking you, it's not because the game is pushing them to do it. they're attacking you because they want to, and they're willing to accept the consequences for it. that's 1000x more interesting than "i do what the game tells me to do"

[Nizzarr]

teams sounds fun man, I mean were getting so much PVP on the red server as it is, lets lower it by 33%, add first to engage rules for same team PVE and camp disputes.

Not only we'll split the servers population in half or more! Sounds great, cant wait.

[Faerie]

teams sounds fun man, I mean were getting so much PVP on the red server as it is, lets lower it by 33%, add first to engage rules for same team PVE and camp disputes.

Not only we'll split the servers population in half or more! Sounds great, cant wait.

Blue server's population is insane for an emulated game. We need to get as blue as possible while still sticking to our PK roots, if we're to have people to play with. I'm all for camp disputes here.

[Aenor]

I think if a teams server opens up, it will split the population in half, the teams server being much harder to pull off than a FFA one will result in a disaster and both servers will ultimately be fubared for good.

Protect dem pixels. Like R99 isn't already fubar'd?

[Aenor]

teams sounds fun man, I mean were getting so much PVP on the red server as it is, lets lower it by 33%, add first to engage rules for same team PVE and camp disputes.

Not only we'll split the servers population in half or more! Sounds great, cant wait.

Awe you're not gonna play teams, Nizzar? Guess that means we'll only have 699 on launch instead of 700. Have a grand ole tyme on Dead99 after teams launches.

[Aenor]

What do you guys think this means? From Alecta thread:



Are the servers to be merged into one another (copies on both)? Is the plan to continue along with 2 pvp servers and the one blue server?

The best route to go imo would be to merge blue and red into a 4 level +/- pvp server, and then a week or two later release teams starting with no expansions, no copies or transfers. This way we'd end up with 2 decently populated pvp servers, which would both be objectively better than the blue server.

To answer OP, dev team needs to determine in advance how it will work if Red99 is merged into Teams99 or vice versa. The determination as to which of those scenarios will actually take place is tbd, based on how successful Teams99 is.

[heartbrand]

Red99 better than ever FYI

[Nekkojakk]

What exactly would make teams better than the current red server? I remember the teams rule set from live but can't figure out why that would make it better than FFA pvp. Honest question as I haven't read anythint about the proposed teams server.

[Squire]

i think a built in support network for new and lowbie players would make the server more attractive to a wider group of players than an ffa ruleset. it would partially curb single guild hegemony and even encourage more pvp than raid contest pvp alone with a zone control system. there is also that aspect of "team pride" that people get off on, in addition to guild accomplishments. not everyone is going to be raiding end game Velious shit, but enjoy making sure the "Shorties" or "Evils" or whatever are holding their own.

likewise, a teams dynamic brings a little more to the table to differentiate the red server from blue, currently many more timid blue players view red as the same as blue, but with an abysmally low pop + someone can Harmtouch them when they're fighting a puma, then call you a faggot and thus decide to simply opt out. a hard coded teams with initial language barriers system makes the red server more distinct in terms of mechanics and mitigates verbal toxicity at least until one mastered opposing team languages at higher levels should one so desire if at all depending upon implementation.

also along the lines of server distinction is item loot, a concept the devs said they wouldn't implement on an existing server, but would on a fresh one. i think you'd be surprised as to how many blue players would play an item loot server instead of the current system just because it makes the servers more different.

the economy and viability of obtaining certain gear considering cross-team trading has been implied would be disabled would make teams99 even more different, likewise is certain teams are barred the use of certain classes (Perhaps no bards, or no shaman, or no unstunnable warriors for all guilds) raids will even be different to a certain extent. If nothing else, new servers bring new blood. People love the rush for guises and mana stones, ideally with 2+ years of PvP beta out of the way and kinks worked out you'd see a higher level of player retention.

If this server ever happens, that is.

[Nekkojakk]

I'd think it would split the population even more. Couple hundred people split between three factions. The top current red guilds, if say they all switched, would have to choose different factions otherwise top pve would look like blue pve.

[Squire]

I'd think it would split the population even more. Couple hundred people split between three factions. The top current red guilds, if say they all switched, would have to choose different factions otherwise top pve would look like blue pve.

I've heard this a lot, mostly said by those who already have a lot invested in red99 and don't want another server at all least it threaten their gains, which I understand.

Those same people, however, wouldn't dare miss out of being the first to slay Naggy, or be the first level 50 Druid or whatever on a new server either.

A lot of these same people likewise log on only to down a named. I think the difference is once said named has been downed on red (which they won't abandon, if they didn't when the pop was at 20 then, then won't when its at 20 again) they'll log back into Blackburrow on teams.

[Nekkojakk]

Firstly, I'm new here. Level 20 new, a wipe would cost me about a day and a half of work. Secondly I do understand the pluses that would accompany opening a new server. I'm just not sure what if any pluses it being a teams server would bring with it. So I'm asking.

[Potus]

teams sounds fun man, I mean were getting so much PVP on the red server as it is, lets lower it by 33%, add first to engage rules for same team PVE and camp disputes.

Not only we'll split the servers population in half or more! Sounds great, cant wait.

Yeah so much PvP on Red right now. I hope we don't reduce it by 33% or some other made up bullshit by bluebies like you.

[phacemeltar]

if there isnt enough teams, its just gona turn into grief-central. i sure hope its race-wars

[Potus]

As long as it's more than 2 teams and it isn't Item Loot it has a good chance of survival.

I laugh at how many people want to ruin the server with stupid fantasies about looting fungi tunics.

[Faerie]

As long as it's more than 2 teams and it isn't Item Loot it has a good chance of survival.

I laugh at how many people want to ruin the server with stupid fantasies about looting fungi tunics.

It seems likely that we will have item loot, because nilbog is all for it in the teams setting.

[Squire]

As long as it's more than 2 teams and it isn't Item Loot it has a good chance of survival.

I laugh at how many people want to ruin the server with stupid fantasies about looting fungi tunics.

thats nilbog's fantasy. a swarm of newbs taking down the great fungi beast in crushbone, armed with only cracked staves. i just dont see that happening, though.

[Faerie]

thats nilbog's fantasy. a swarm of newbs taking down the great fungi beast in crushbone, armed with only cracked staves. i just dont see that happening, though.

Yeah this never happened ever, despite what tradesonred would have you believe :P

But item loot could be cool, if it didn't scare off too many potential blue players.

[Solb]

Is this really going to happen, or is it just some people's pipe dream? I haven't seen anything from devs about creating a teams based PVP server. Would be fun to start fresh on a server for me, anyway. i get why some don't like that thought though. Dividing the Red server population would probably doom it, TBH.

[Juhstin]

Item loot would scare away newbies but would be fun for those that stick around.

[jeffd]

teso will be out by then

[phacemeltar]

TESOemu is gona be ridiculous