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myxomatosii
03-09-2014, 09:53 AM
Obviously Luclin is coming soon.

http://i.imgur.com/qVBDqnp.jpg

Cecily
03-09-2014, 10:05 AM
God I hope so. I wanna delete my alts and just AA grind one char.

SamIamLegend
03-09-2014, 10:09 AM
what are these AAs you speak of!

Tasslehofp99
03-09-2014, 10:28 AM
what are these AAs you speak of!

not classic.

Cecily
03-09-2014, 10:47 AM
Well, ok it's not "classic", but Luclin had far nicer character graphics. I think everyone can agree on that.

HeallunRumblebelly
03-09-2014, 10:49 AM
God I hope so. I wanna delete my alts and just AA grind one char.

AE grind for 4 weeks, done with AAXP. Have like 5 chars fully aaxp'd, lol.

myriverse
03-09-2014, 10:53 AM
Cats! On the moon!

Cecily
03-09-2014, 10:54 AM
AE grind for 4 weeks, done with AAXP. Have like 5 chars fully aaxp'd, lol.

#1 on things I'd like to see nerfed list, followed by epic quest turn ins being accepted at sub-50, and Chest being allowed to play on this server.

Swish
03-09-2014, 11:33 AM
A locked test server more important than red, apparently :p

phacemeltar
03-09-2014, 07:50 PM
not velious, this is teams. teams ftw!

Imago
03-09-2014, 08:03 PM
not velious, this is teams. teams ftw!

I approve this message.

Stonecrush
03-09-2014, 08:20 PM
I really hope it's not Luclin.

I like the old game. That's why I came here.

Byrjun
03-09-2014, 08:39 PM
It's not Luclin.

Millburn
03-09-2014, 08:40 PM
It's not Luclin.

Suspicious as hell, this guy knows something. It's totally Luclin.

Faerie
03-09-2014, 08:53 PM
A locked test server more important than red, apparently :p

lol

It's totally teams, though. Who's joining me on elf team? :)

Swish
03-09-2014, 09:27 PM
lol

It's totally teams, though. Who's joining me on elf team? :)

I'll join the resistance, whichever team is lacking players.

Asap
03-09-2014, 09:44 PM
Cats on the moon will never happen on this server.

Shaakglith12194
03-09-2014, 09:52 PM
Cats on the moon will never happen on this server.

And that is a good thing. Luclin models were so terrible, for the most part. Although I did like the Ogre and Iksar models, I still used old-school ones for both.

Frug
03-09-2014, 09:59 PM
It's never Lupus.

Rec
03-09-2014, 10:24 PM
teams99 will crush all opposition

Pheer
03-09-2014, 10:29 PM
im going to put on my tinfoil hat and say maybe rogean tests things on there

Vidar
03-09-2014, 10:32 PM
Well, ok it's not "classic", but Luclin had far nicer character graphics. I think everyone can agree on that.

We cant. The new character models looked retarded and half of them didn't move correctly. I had them turned off when I played live.

Millburn
03-09-2014, 11:00 PM
We cant. The new character models looked retarded and half of them didn't move correctly. I had them turned off when I played live.

http://i.imgur.com/LGEdx.gif

Fame
03-09-2014, 11:08 PM
teams lol

Squire
03-10-2014, 12:15 AM
not velious, this is teams. teams ftw!

can't wait! elf/shorties ftw

Faerie
03-10-2014, 12:53 AM
can't wait! elf/shorties ftw

I wish they had put dwarves on a separate team, though. Dwarves suck and should always be kos. But with elves being the objectively coolest races, it looks like we'll be stuck holding hands with those blah dwarves :(

Rec
03-10-2014, 02:20 AM
shorties are suppose to love their fellow ugly shorties

Squire
03-10-2014, 02:21 AM
http://oi60.tinypic.com/51diiv.jpg

that image is pretty much exactly where staff is at, although we have a plan in the works to ensure that the pecks/elves have something to replace the shaman slow.

we'll give more info on teams after velious. right now thats where all the devs are focused.

<3
Sirks

Badassery will ensue.

Rec
03-10-2014, 02:22 AM
Elves are on the good team, for only the beautiful people

Clark
03-10-2014, 07:19 AM
#1 on things I'd like to see nerfed list, followed by epic quest turn ins being accepted at sub-50, and Chest being allowed to play on this server.

:D

Trelaboon
03-10-2014, 08:17 AM
Does anyone know where the teams server will start, in terms of timeline?

Will there be guise/manastone etc on this sever, or will it start in these place as blue and red are currently?

Squire
03-10-2014, 12:16 PM
Does anyone know where the teams server will start, in terms of timeline?

Will there be guise/manastone etc on this sever, or will it start in these place as blue and red are currently?

Sirken said that teams will be spoken of AFTER Velious launches.

Daldaen
03-10-2014, 12:23 PM
http://oi60.tinypic.com/51diiv.jpg



Badassery will ensue.

Shorties / Elves were separate teams.

Squire
03-10-2014, 12:26 PM
Shorties / Elves were separate teams.

Not anymore.

3 teams, consolidating the two least populated teams into one for balance purposes.

justin2090
03-10-2014, 12:28 PM
No way would a dwarf ever.. EVER.. team with an elf.

Faerie
03-10-2014, 12:30 PM
No way would a dwarf ever.. EVER.. team with an elf.

Like we want you anyway. I'm gonna start a petition to get you traded off to human team.

Daldaen
03-10-2014, 12:32 PM
Not anymore.

3 teams, consolidating the two least populated teams into one for balance purposes.

Better not. Shit ain't classic.

No balance in 6 races vs 3 vs 4

True balance in 3 v 3 v 3 v 4

Squire
03-10-2014, 12:48 PM
Its going to be a 3 team server, that much is certain, like SZ. However, unlike SZ, it is going to be split along racial lines. Unlike VZ, its going to have item loot. Worry less about adherence to any one of the classic pvp server rule sets and consider it more of a blending of the best qualities of all the servers rolled into one team server. Applying lessons learned from the failings of the current red server, and what worked and what didn't on previous pvp servers both emulated and live.

Previous teams servers saw total Evil hegemony, with good, neutral or shortie / elven teams respectively being crushed. A way to mitigate that is to combine two traditionally smaller teams into a larger, and more able to compete team i.e. elves+shorties. This not only allows for more players active in that team, but allows for the same ability to get through newbie levels unmolested as Qeyonsian Humans, or Ogre/Trolls do in their isolated newbie areas.

It doesn't seem balanced if what is traditionally the largest team, with its Ogres and Trolls are leveling unfettered through their low levels in guk, whereas the two least populated teams (If elves and shorties were stinct teams) are battling over crushbone.

Newbie pvp is some of the most fun I've ever had in an MMORPG, Red99 launch day in Blackburrow was amazing, but something that has been learned since then is one needs to foster a support-network for lowbies to get off the ground, make pals, and get pseudo established before thrusting them into pvp for long term player retention purposes.

Rec
03-10-2014, 04:36 PM
They should be brave and take a poll, 4 teams would crush 3 teams

Nubben
03-10-2014, 04:59 PM
99.9% chance that this test environment has nothing to do with Teams server, probably like a 50% chance that it's not a P99 test environment at all.

Rec
03-10-2014, 05:44 PM
You guys missed the polls and the huge long discussions about teams makeup 'cause you never come visit us in the red forums :(

It gets lonely there without you.

I saw all the polls we never had one that put 4 teams directly against 3 teams as the only two options

Fael
03-10-2014, 06:06 PM
1. What advantage does the elf/shorty team have? The only pullers for pve will be gnome necros.... dumb.

2. Preventing evil team from having bards will create a similar, retard-level imbalance.

3. under this scenario, the human team is way over powered.


Dolic

Telin
03-10-2014, 06:18 PM
A server testing the Eqmac client I hope :-)

Rec
03-10-2014, 06:22 PM
Human team isn't overpowered because most of the good looking races and "best" races for each class are all on the other teams. Vanity and min/maxing will put the team of men in last place

Frug
03-10-2014, 06:22 PM
A server testing the Eqmac client I hope :-)

This seems unlikely, but ... is it necessary? I'm running the "normal" client under Wine on a Mac with no problems.

Ok, one small problem - if I set and ignore the game for a while; 15 mins or so; it sometimes freezes up with the spinning beachball. So I avoid doing that. But generally during "normal" gameplay it works very, very well.

Telin
03-10-2014, 06:31 PM
This seems unlikely, but ... is it necessary? I'm running the "normal" client under Wine on a Mac with no problems.

Ok, one small problem - if I set and ignore the game for a while; 15 mins or so; it sometimes freezes up with the spinning beachball. So I avoid doing that. But generally during "normal" gameplay it works very, very well.

I meant because it is much more classic graphically and can be used on pc. Not likely anytime soon though.

Frug
03-10-2014, 06:47 PM
I meant because it is much more classic graphically and can be used on pc. Not likely anytime soon though.

Ah, cool; I didn't realize that. I only had the current mac and the 1984 mac so didn't have one then.

lecompte
03-10-2014, 06:59 PM
I'll join the resistance, whichever team is lacking players.

Me and you Swish. Eurdites probably.

Squire
03-10-2014, 11:36 PM
Human team isn't overpowered because most of the good looking races and "best" races for each class are all on the other teams. Vanity and min/maxing will put the team of men in last place

This. Despite the humans having access to ALL classes, its balanced due to aesthetic preference many have towards Elf/Short races and the desire many have to min/max on an individual basis and play a ogre warrior, iksar monk, troll SK, halfling druid, or whatever they feel is the best combination for their play style, etc.

Squire
03-10-2014, 11:37 PM
Me and you Swish. Eurdites probably.

I bet Nihilim/TMO etc go Human, maaaaaybe evil, but if I was a betting man I'd say the Human/Erudite/Barbarian Team.

Pras the Elf/Shortie Alliance. Join the Bullsmasher Brigade!

phacemeltar
03-11-2014, 05:24 AM
race wars is the best teams rules.. u guys may as well admit it. forces diplomacy