I'd just like to point something out to Azrael

[Twainz]

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2+ Boxing
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Language, Profanity, Harassment
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Bind Camping
Bind camping is not against the rules but is frowned upon in it's basic form (intentionally killing a player over and over at a reasonable bind location). Allow players to move on after defeating them. The reverse also holds true, and we request that you do not bind near a player or group intentionally to continuously attack them. The staff may step in to stop these situations if necessary.

[vouss]

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Agatha, Jupe

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Bulletproofx (threatened to killsomeone with a shotgun IRL after losing a 1v1 duel)

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Drakar (only kills he ever gets are on naked people at binds)

try again

[Tassador]

We should do copy cat thread as 4. Penalty ingame and forum perm ban. Think of the lives will save.

[Twainz]

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Agatha, Jupe

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Bulletproofx (threatened to killsomeone with a shotgun IRL after losing a 1v1 duel)

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Drakar (only kills he ever gets are on naked people at binds)

try again

O hey, its that guy that killed my naked chanter on a CR after I called LnS.

[vouss]

Oh hey, it's the guy who thinks he can call LnS 2 days after dying, noob lol

[Twainz]

Oh hey, it's the guy who thinks he can call LnS 2 days after dying, noob lol

Actually per the rules, you can call LnS even if you don't die.

[vouss]

Hm? Wasn't that around the same time that Red Dawn wiped to server lag on Gornaire and Nihilum enforced the rule "No YT no LnS", only allowing people to collect their corpses or get rez'd after they ported in and walked to Nihilum to get killed first?

[Dacuk]

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4017/4626052094_67ab3f181e.jpg

[Twainz]

Hm? Wasn't that around the same time that Red Dawn wiped to server lag on Gornaire and Nihilum enforced the rule "No YT no LnS", only allowing people to collect their corpses or get rez'd after they ported in and walked to Nihilum to get killed first?

It was after that because I wasn't in Nihilum when the Gorenaire attempts went down. This was after Derubael had made a long post on the boards explaining the updated PnP.

[Twainz]

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4017/4626052094_67ab3f181e.jpg

O really? Please explain.

[freez]

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twainz cant see his pee pee

[freez]

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Bulletproofx (threatened to killsomeone with a shotgun IRL after losing a 1v1 duel)






LOOOOOOL

[Twainz]

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twainz cant see his pee pee

Hey look, another attack from an Azrael member. Glad to see your helping the server Freez.

[Juhstin]

I like cookies

[freez]

Hey look, another attack from an Azrael member. Glad to see your helping the server Freez.

i am helping



helping light a fire under your ass so checraise doesnt have to pay for your liposuction in 10 years to save your life

[Dacuk]

O really? Please explain.

both guilds have rule breakers in them. until leadership truly acts with integrity these threads serve no purpose than entertaining all of us.

[Twainz]

both guilds have rule breakers in them. until leadership truly acts with integrity these threads serve no purpose than entertaining all of us.

Haven't seen Nizzar train since I got Jizzar banned, yet Lite boxes daily.

[freez]

idk bro lots of pruf posted on jizzy but u gots nothing on lite even after being guilded with him for what 2 months not long ago?


yah ok

[Faerie]

You're all guilty imo :)

[Twainz]

idk bro lots of pruf posted on jizzy but u gots nothing on lite even after being guilded with him for what 2 months not long ago?


yah ok

Yea I know bro. Maybe I should of done something while I was in Azrael to get my guild leader banned. Everyone knows Lite boxes, the problem is catching him. I just found it funny when he would be playing Lite and I would ask him for a port so he would log on Rott or Cheesycakes and port me while doing something on Lite. Or when he used to box Tarran and Lite and do Fungi King in the water near Crypt.

[freez]

but few are guity of trying to train a whole raid worth of people





1 on 1 training on purpose? small suspension

1 on group training on purpose? larger suspension


1 on 30+ training on purpose? if your guild is present then raid suspension for that guild




pretty fair




would keep narcissistic french canadian walrus clowns from doing this too often

[freez]

Yea I know bro. Maybe I should of done something while I was in Azrael to get my guild leader banned. Everyone knows Lite boxes, the problem is catching him. I just found it funny when he would be playing Lite and I would ask him for a port so he would log on Rott or Cheesycakes and port me while doing something on Lite. Or when he used to box Tarran and Lite and do Fungi King in the water near Crypt.

cool story bro

[lite]

Yea I know bro. Maybe I should of done something while I was in Azrael to get my guild leader banned. Everyone knows Lite boxes, the problem is catching him. I just found it funny when he would be playing Lite and I would ask him for a port so he would log on Rott or Cheesycakes and port me while doing something on Lite. Or when he used to box Tarran and Lite and do Fungi King in the water near Crypt.

let's pretend this was true ... You had no problem benefiting from boxing. Now people are calling you a fat three cloak of flame faggot, and it's a problem.

[lite]

Would you like to go into detail about how Tune spent so much time trying to figure out the highsun exploit ? Maybe you and him can have a nice back and forth about how he used it for CT exploiting, and you used it to move a banker...


Naw, you don't wanna discuss that anymore...go home twinkies

[Twainz]

let's pretend this was true ... You had no problem benefiting from boxing. Now people are calling you a fat three cloak of flame faggot, and it's a problem.

Hey look, another attack from a member of Azrael. Thanks for helping the server!

[Twainz]

Would you like to go into detail about how Tune spent so much time trying to figure out the highsun exploit ? Maybe you and him can have a nice back and forth about how he used it for CT exploiting, and you used it to move a banker...


Naw, you don't wanna discuss that anymore...go home twinkies

Hey look, another attack from a member of Azrael. Thanks for helping the server!

[BrobbVZ]

Twainz times to relax. It's a game dude, you've been in Nihilum to long again and lost your boundaries on real life and game.

[quido]

When Twainz apped TMO on blue, I had to sit him down and explain how the N-word doesn't really fly over there.

[lite]

When Twainz apped TMO on blue, I had to sit him down and explain how the N-word doesn't really fly over there.

what the fuck ?

[Twainz]

When Twainz apped TMO on blue, I had to sit him down and explain how the N-word doesn't really fly over there.

Huh? We never really talked about me joining TMO. I said get me in and you said you would see what you could do. I actually talked to Zeelot about joining and he said I could app at 55 if you signed off on it, which you did. You never really played Blue while I was there =(. Also, I talk mostly the same way out of game that I do in game. I might be a little more dramatic in game for the lawls but I'm generally a goofball outside too.

[Derubael]

Actually per the rules, you can call LnS even if you don't die.

Did I actually say this somewhere? If so, please let me know, because its stupid as shit and needs to be changed.

[Twainz]

Did I actually say this somewhere? If so, please let me know, because its stupid as shit and needs to be changed.

No idea bro. That is what was explained to me and I've let people do it. I honestly haven't read the update because I don't usually do anything that could be considered griefing. I got my griefing out on TZ with Macroquest + DA Cleric Trainz.

[Derubael]

No idea bro. That is what was explained to me and I've let people do it. I honestly haven't read the update because I don't usually do anything that could be considered griefing. I got my griefing out on TZ with Macroquest + DA Cleric Trainz.

Ok, ty. There's nothing wrong with letting someone do that (LnS without YT), it's actually a real nice thing to do, but I'd say if there was no YT there's no obligation to let them LnS. Too easily abused.

If I stated otherwise in the past and confused people, my apologies (and please point this out to me so I can go nuke the post stating that).

[heartbrand]

Ok, ty. There's nothing wrong with letting someone do that (LnS without YT), it's actually a real nice thing to do, but I'd say if there was no YT there's no obligation to let them LnS. Too easily abused.

If I stated otherwise in the past and confused people, my apologies (and please point this out to me so I can go nuke the post stating that).

What about with Guild LnS?

[Derubael]

What about with Guild LnS?

Like if you die to a raid mob, come back and there is another force there waiting for you?

I'd say in order to stay consistent with the rules, the opposing force wouldn't be obligated to let you LnS until at least 1 YT has gone off. So if you're in this situation, have your force send a ranger to eat the YT death, then call LnS.

[Twainz]

Like if you die to a raid mob, come back and there is another force there waiting for you?

I'd say in order to stay consistent with the rules, the opposing force wouldn't be obligated to let you LnS until at least 1 YT has gone off. So if you're in this situation, have your force send a ranger to eat the YT death, then call LnS.

Rangers so good.

[heartbrand]

Like if you die to a raid mob, come back and there is another force there waiting for you?

I'd say in order to stay consistent with the rules, the opposing force wouldn't be obligated to let you LnS until at least 1 YT has gone off. So if you're in this situation, have your force send a ranger to eat the YT death, then call LnS.

No, what I mean is, in that situation, as long as SOME YT has gone off, can you CR / LnS the entire guild, including those who died to PVE?

[Derubael]

No, what I mean is, in that situation, as long as SOME YT has gone off, can you CR / LnS the entire guild, including those who died to PVE?

Yes absolutely.

[lite]

Like if you die to a raid mob, come back and there is another force there waiting for you?

I'd say in order to stay consistent with the rules, the opposing force wouldn't be obligated to let you LnS until at least 1 YT has gone off. So if you're in this situation, have your force send a ranger to eat the YT death, then call LnS.

What about if people camped out and are loading back in from the wipe ? They are allowed to LNS and res up the fallen ?

[Derubael]

What about if people camped out and are loading back in from the wipe ? They are allowed to LNS and res up the fallen ?

After a guild LnS call? I don't see why not. I think the whole point of LnS is to get people to their bodies and get them out as quickly as possible so everyone can continue playing. As long as they are not engaging in PvP and are actively trying to make the LnS move faster, I don't see a problem with it.

[quido]

It would be nice to get a firm ruling on rezzing being allowed, if people are allowed to full-buff before scooting, etc

[Colgate]

Did I actually say this somewhere? If so, please let me know, because its stupid as shit and needs to be changed.

apparently a lot of people think this, because nihilum was crying for about 3 hours one night because i wouldn't let tune's alt LNS when he died to a mob in solb and then kept trying to port a cleric in over and over who refused to LNS after we killed him like 3 times

still waiting for the ban that they swore i was gonna get

[Awwalike]

twainz you're fat this is rants and flames go kill yourself twinkies

[Derubael]

you are allowed a short amount of time to med and memorize spells, and then must leave the zone immediately for 1 hour. This timer will start after the last person has exited the zone. If multiple players died in PvP and all choose to LnS, they may help each other do so (IE, res each other, drag corpses, port, etc) unless they have already opted out of LnS by fighting after death. After you have left the zone, you are considered to have finished Loot and Scooting, and may again be attacked.

Bolded the sections relevant to your question. So res = yes, full buffs = no. Basically you get enough time to get some mana, invis yourself to run out, or port. This doesn't mean you get to regen a full bar of mana. The point is to get enough mana to safely make it out of the zone.

[Derubael]

I can see why the wording of the PnP may seem ambiguous regarding med time, will edit now for clarification.

[quido]

thanks big D

[Derubael]

Changed to this:

A player is 'Looting and Scooting' (LnSing) when he has died to an opponent and opts to call Loot and Scoot. You must call Loot and Scoot at least once in global OOC or your LnS claim will not be valid, and you can be killed. You may call Loot and Scoot in any zone after respawning from death so long as you head straight for your corpse. If you need to move across multiple zones in order to Loot and Scoot, you must call LnS as you move through each zone. If a new player enters the zone, you must call Loot and Scoot so they are aware of your intentions. You may not attack or be attacked while Loot and Scooting. After retrieving your corpse, you are allowed a short amount of time to med enough mana to safely get out of the zone (ie, enough for a couple casts of invis, FD, or a port spell), memorize those spells, and then must leave the zone immediately for 1 hour. This timer will start after the last person has exited the zone. If multiple players died in PvP and all choose to LnS, they may help each other do so (IE, res each other, drag corpses, port, etc) unless they have already opted out of LnS by fighting after death. After you have left the zone, you are considered to have finished Loot and Scooting, and may again be attacked.

[Eslade]

thanks derub, roberto was bind camping neriak like he does and tried to tell me that I couldn't mem spells after he ganked me. good to know I was right and he is an ass.

[Colgate]

you don't need to get mana to zone out when you're bound literally 3 feet from the zoneline

[Awwalike]

if you're bound on a zone line and you manage to get camped by a rogue you deserve it

[Colgate]

server full of crybabies

LOVE IT

[Fame]

LnS still the worst thing to happen next to removing exp loss on pvp death, we policed ourselves

[Twainz]

twainz you're fat this is rants and flames go kill yourself twinkies

Hey look, another disgusting comment from a member of Azrael. Thanks for making the server less toxic!

Derubael, isn't it against the rules to tell someone to kill themselves irl?

[quido]

maybe he meant in game

[freez]

twainz so pathetic


cry more?

[Awwalike]

maybe he meant in game

[Lojik]

maybe he meant in game

Can you call LnS if you kill yourself in game? Is there YT?

[Bazia]

should stop trying to make diff rules about it, shud be no YT no LnS keep it simple

[Koota]

Server thriving...

[Elspeth]

twainz real ***** status in serious jeopardy after reading some of this cry baby shit...

[Smedy]

requesting twainz rl pic so i can jerk it to these delicious tears