Spanking a Child is a form of child abuse

[Lron]

And really fucking creepy as well.

If I see anyone in public spanking their kid, i will intervene and stop the abuse, be warned.

[Swish]

http://i.imgur.com/hqSDS1z.gif ?

[drktmplr12]

stupid. kids need to be spanked. fuck you lron.





just kidding i love you. but kids need spankings.

[Lron]

Kids nee spanking? drk, you have issues and need to see a doctor.

[Lron]

http://i.imgur.com/hqSDS1z.gif ?

These arent kids, im all for spanking hot broads if thats what gets them off.

[drktmplr12]

there's a difference between discipline and abuse. that being said.. i hate how people want to call social services if they see a child being disciplined in public. fuck anyone who does this, mind your own business.

[Lron]

Social services and CPS is a den of child molesters. I will never call the government to fix a scenario if i can do it on my own.

The only reason to call CPS is if you see over the top, repugnant child abuse and i dont put spanking in that category, but it is using force through violence to curb behavior and that is immoral and detestable.

[drktmplr12]

its pretty safe to say not all parents know how to use spanking. it should be one tool in a large arsenal of cooperation incentives.

positive reinforcement has much better results, but many times parents arent into the time investment.

[Lron]

Not being into the time investment doesnt make the act of spanking any less vile.

Its always easier to hit a kid than raise it.

[Raavak]

How many kids do you raise?

[Tzeriel]

All the shit happening to kids in America and you label spanking as "vile". I think your priorities are fucking stupid. You're like those assclowns who rant about having to press 1 for English being your main gripe while near atrocities are taking place daily.

I have a 5 year old. I've never spanked him. I would if I felt I needed to. It happened to me about a half dozen times in my childhood. Upon taking a personal inventory when I was older, I realized each time it happened to me, I was deserving of it and I was the one who took it to that point, past other punishments and failed incentives. Spanking is not abuse and all you do when you say it is, is look stupid and dilute actual abuse.

[Tzeriel]

Because I'm at work and having nothing better to do than respond to idiots and look at cat pictures.

[khanable]

Because I'm at work and having nothing better to do than respond to idiots and look at cat pictures.

You could work

[Tzeriel]

I could, if I had work to do. Mornings are slow here and this week has been slow ontop of that, leading to almost dead mornings.

[Archalen]

Physical punishment during childhood is linked to anxiety disorders, aggression, and a host of negative emotions. Don't be stupid like your parents were. There are cultures where physical punishment is unheard of and those cultures display superior indices in relation to happiness and emotional security. Parents who physically punish their children are emotionally weak/ uninformed and only teach their children to fear the world around them.

[Peatree]

You are an idiot.

[Heebo]

quit responding to this retarded thread

all you bitches got an illness your parents should of beat u harder

http://i.imgur.com/QRGNgZW.jpg

[Lron]

Azrael = relaps = a guy who desperately sought my attention and approval on eqmac because of my fame and popularity.

All that being said, yes, spanking is child abuse as others have pointed out.

[BurgyK]

Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls

[toosweet]

I can't kill dragons in game so beating my kids is the next best thing, it makes me feel power!!!!'

[Lron]

I woke the sleeper too, the gm's just respawn him. These are not things to hang your hat on if you want to be famous.

[Lron]

You are embarrassing yourself

[Lron]

I love you relapse

[Archalen]

http://i.imgur.com/QRGNgZW.jpg

Good point, it's not like you responded to this thread.

[Lune]

My family is so progressive the kids hit the adults

[Lron]

If your kid hits you, its your responsibility to stop that kind of behavior. If he continues to hit you as a teenager, it is your responsibility to knock him on your ass if you feel imminently threatened.

0.00001% of kids hit their parents if they have not been previously abused by them.

You mirror what you learn.

[Barkingturtle]

There is room in parenting for corporal punishment. For instance, autistic children are difficult to reason with. Verbal discipline has little effect. They respond better to other methods, like striking, pinching, burning, etc.

What's unfortunate is how many parents resort to striking their child out of frustration. Their anger bleeds through. This can cause a great deal of confusion. It's important the child knows you're only hurting them because you love them. To remind them of this, I find it's helpful when beating a child to occasionally lift your shirt so they can see your boner.

[Lron]

Ohhh come on relapse, im one of very few that likes you...dont burn every bridge.

[Lron]

There is room in parenting for corporal punishment. For instance, autistic children are difficult to reason with. Verbal discipline has little effect. They respond better to other methods, like striking, pinching, burning, etc.

What's unfortunate is how many parents resort to striking their child out of frustration. Their anger bleeds through. This can cause a great deal of confusion. It's important the child knows you're only hurting them because you love them. To remind them of this, I find it's helpful when beating a child to occasionally lift your shirt so they can see your boner.

You are one of the best trolls ever. I even made a thread in your honor a few months back. This does not disappoint.

[Lron]

Im gonna buy a PC laptop as soon as my welfare check comes in, patience is a virtue.

[Lron]

You dont have a job man, which is the best way to live, but dont act like you are a "wuuurkin mayn" to appeal to your blue collar parents.

[Cecily]

You are an idiot.

You're*

[Lojik]

You're*

Yarrrr*

[Lron]

A way to buy you time is to tell your grandparents that you need beer to ween off of your addiction so you dont die.

Coming off alcohol cold turkey is dangerous.

[Lron]

You're*

Cecily have you hacked off your cawk yet bro?

[Rellapse36]

Unbanned aww yiss feels like the day i got out of jail

[Lojik]

Sometimes you have to spank kids, and sometimes you have to do it in public unfortunately. People always give me dirty looks, but maybe it's cause they're not my kids? /shrug

[Lron]

You are unfit for raising children if you spank your kids.

[Peatree]

the poor virgin with a chick as a avatar and a chick getting showered in hotdogs is calling me a idiot




llololololololololo

***** Dredge probably looks like a fit super model compared to your fat pasty ass lulz

Was calling Lron an idiot you dumbass.

[Lron]

Guys lets keep it on topic

[radditsu]

Fuck the pain away

[Ahldagor]

without good parenting you get op:
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Bronies+are+creepy+-A+brony.+Tags+are+for+squares+Like_83f50f_4098641. jpg

[JayN]

Beating your children is the only real solution, anything else youll end with basket case kids playing eq all day

[Fame]

Lron obviously hs deeper issues, dad hit him, so did mom, feels betrayed, lashes out some 25 years later on elf sim board about it. Pity reply.

[Sidelle]

There is room in parenting for corporal punishment. For instance, autistic children are difficult to reason with. Verbal discipline has little effect. They respond better to other methods, like striking, pinching, burning, etc.

What's unfortunate is how many parents resort to striking their child out of frustration. Their anger bleeds through. This can cause a great deal of confusion. It's important the child knows you're only hurting them because you love them. To remind them of this, I find it's helpful when beating a child to occasionally lift your shirt so they can see your boner.

Lol, oh dear god. Funny. :D

They respond better to other methods, like striking, pinching, burning, etc.

[Destron]

There is room in parenting for corporal punishment. For instance, autistic children are difficult to reason with. Verbal discipline has little effect. They respond better to other methods, like striking, pinching, burning, etc.

What's unfortunate is how many parents resort to striking their child out of frustration. Their anger bleeds through. This can cause a great deal of confusion. It's important the child knows you're only hurting them because you love them. To remind them of this, I find it's helpful when beating a child to occasionally lift your shirt so they can see your boner.

You win.

[Peatree]

There is room in parenting for corporal punishment. For instance, autistic children are difficult to reason with. Verbal discipline has little effect. They respond better to other methods, like striking, pinching, burning, etc.

What's unfortunate is how many parents resort to striking their child out of frustration. Their anger bleeds through. This can cause a great deal of confusion. It's important the child knows you're only hurting them because you love them. To remind them of this, I find it's helpful when beating a child to occasionally lift your shirt so they can see your boner.

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[Ahldagor]

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new material is needed

[Sidelle]

http://www.beheadingboredom.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/legos-on-floor-spank-me-good-luck-kid.png

Stepping on lego might be worse than hot coals.

[myriverse]

Stepping on lego might be worse than hot coals.
Most of the things you find in a toy store can be used as caltrops. Fact.

[Swish]

http://www.beheadingboredom.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/legos-on-floor-spank-me-good-luck-kid.png

Stepping on lego might be worse than hot coals.

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[Servellious]

And really fucking creepy as well.

If I see anyone in public spanking their kid, i will intervene and stop the abuse, be warned.

You can intervene anytime you see me swat my nephew on the butt for acting like a jackass

[Lisset]

And really fucking creepy as well.

If I see anyone in public spanking their kid, i will intervene and stop the abuse, be warned.

God luck with that. My wife and I are both armed.

[Lune]

God luck with that. My wife and I are both armed.

lol what kind of third world country do you live in where people not only beat their kids, but also walk around in public with firearms

sounds like a shitty place, bet they dont even have universal healthcare

[Lisset]

lol what kind of third world country do you live in where people not only beat their kids, but also walk around in public with firearms

I never said beat. He said spank. There's a distinct difference. As for carrying in public, nobody even knows I carry because it's concealed and I do so legally.

[hatelore]

lol what kind of third world country do you live in where people not only beat their kids, but also walk around in public with firearms

sounds like a shitty place, bet they dont even have universal healthcare

Are you really ridiculing him for carrying? Trust me bro, it can be a dangerous place out there. You will realize this whenever your mom kicks you out of her basement. lol


So I guess you're the kind of guy that rolls over and takes it whenever someone tries to rob you or jack your car right? This isn't 1950, there are some shitty people out there.

[Lune]

I never said beat. He said spank. There's a distinct difference. As for carrying in public, nobody even knows I carry because it's concealed and I do so legally.

What's the difference? You're using violent force to impose your will on your child. Plenty of parents manage to get by just fine without acting like apes, why can't you?

So angry and violent that you'll shoot poor lron to death in front of your kid? nice.

Are you really ridiculing him for carrying? Trust me bro, it can be a dangerous place out there. You will realize this whenever your mom kicks you out of her basement. lol

So I guess you're the kind of guy that rolls over and takes it whenever someone tries to rob you or jack your car right? This isn't 1950, there are some shitty people out there.

It's actually not a very dangerous place because my mom's basement is in a nice, wealthy, low-crime area where I don't have to worry about white trash shooting each other over property theft.

And I dont have a car, I have a bike because it's better for the environment. Stop fucking polluting

[hatelore]

What's the difference? You're using violent force to impose your will on your child. Plenty of parents manage to get by just fine without acting like apes, why can't you?

So angry and violent that you'll shoot poor lron to death in front of your kid? nice.



It's actually not a very dangerous place because my mom's basement is in a nice, wealthy, low-crime area where I don't have to worry about white trash shooting each other over property theft.

And I dont have a car, I have a bike because it's better for the environment. Stop fucking polluting

Congrats on being a gaping wet pussy. I wish I had your life.

I don't carry because I am "white trash" or because I live in a bad area. I carry because it is my right, and I'll be damned if I am going to roll over and die for some degenerate who has nothing to lose. One day you will grow up and realize those things though, or not.

[jackass1971]

Everything went to hell when they invented cart tenders at super markets. My parents made me push the cart back to the front of the store because some jackass might dent their car with it. If I got lippy mom would pull off her shoe and wear my dumbass out. Wasnt child abuse it was positive reinforcement, if you didnt do what mom and dad said it was positive that it was gonna hurt. People today dont get in the left lane to let others merge, yield to anything, put others before you, do anything for someone else. The whole deal has gone to hell since kids started taking timeouts instead of being held responsible for their actions. When I was a kid you respected people (not just your elders). It has all gone wrong, poor decisions have repercussions and kids have no clue about that nowadays. I BLAME YOU! It has nothing to do with the form of punishment you use. Its your fucking fault your child doesnt have respect for others because you dont display it. ITS NOT YOUR FUCKIN PLACE TO DECIDE HOW I PUT MY CHILD IN HIS/HER PLACE TO LEARN RESPECT FOR OTHERS.

Now get a set and make a P99 bitch thread

Mcshaggin Shirethug

[hatelore]

I have a mortgage, cars, kids, etc and a lot to lose. But I will die with my gun in my hand if it comes to that, not by rolling over like a bitch and accepting what a degenerate wants to do to me.

You on the other hand, will just lose your life, bike, and a poor mom who misses her basement dweller.

[jackass1971]

Far as casting judgement on someone for exercising their right to carry or not is silly on this forum. Silly in general, people from all over the world are viewing this and have no clue what anyone is talking about. If you can do it, if you cant then serve your sentence or be jealous.

Mcshaggin Shirethug

[Lune]

and a lot to lose

Come on hatelore, you know fat people's lives aren't worth anything.

[hatelore]

Pro tip # 4748362649: A good portion of degenerates go to nice cozy,wealthy crime free areas to commit there crimes. Just food for thought... Most poor ghetto dwellers don't have much to steal.

[SamwiseRed]

My parents used a switch and guess what, I ain't even mad

[hatelore]

My parents used a switch and guess what, I ain't even mad

Same homie, they made me go pick the switch! Shit was Classic~

[Lisset]

So angry and violent that you'll shoot poor lron to death in front of your kid? nice.


Not "angry" at all. But if someone approaches me and my child and refuses to back off, I see that as a direct threat and me and my family. I will put myself between him and my child and draw on him. And if he continues to come at me, you can bet your ass I will lay him out. given that I carry a .45 loaded with hollow points, you can also assume with a couple I his chest, he isn't getting up either.

The best part is that it wouldn't even make it to a trial.

[Lune]

Not "angry" at all. But if someone approaches me and my child and refuses to back off, I see that as a direct threat and me and my family. I will put myself between him and my child and draw on him. And if he continues to come at me, you can bet your ass I will lay him out. given that I carry a .45 loaded with hollow points, you can also assume with a couple I his chest, he isn't getting up either.

The best part is that it wouldn't even make it to a trial.

Did writing that give you a boner?

What if he's already aiming a gun at you, as would more likely be the case if firearms were more common? Gonna draw anyway and hope his bullets don't hit your kid?

pls walk me through this, im half hard already just thinking about blowing someone's head off for trying to steal my wallet

[JPMorgan]

There is room in parenting for corporal punishment. For instance, autistic children are difficult to reason with. Verbal discipline has little effect. They respond better to other methods, like striking, pinching, burning, etc.

What's unfortunate is how many parents resort to striking their child out of frustration. Their anger bleeds through. This can cause a great deal of confusion. It's important the child knows you're only hurting them because you love them. To remind them of this, I find it's helpful when beating a child to occasionally lift your shirt so they can see your boner.

10/10

[JPMorgan]

Pro tip # 4748362649: A good portion of degenerates go to nice cozy,wealthy crime free areas to commit there crimes. Just food for thought... Most poor ghetto dwellers don't have much to steal.

This isn't true at all.

When you look at the amount of violent crimes committed by the poor its overwhelming aimed at others within the same social class.

Freakanomics has a cool study related to this.

[Hailto]

Not "angry" at all. But if someone approaches me and my child and refuses to back off, I see that as a direct threat and me and my family. I will put myself between him and my child and draw on him. And if he continues to come at me, you can bet your ass I will lay him out. given that I carry a .45 loaded with hollow points, you can also assume with a couple I his chest, he isn't getting up either.

The best part is that it wouldn't even make it to a trial.

http://i.imgur.com/c8JGdry.jpg

[Ahldagor]

glad to see we have so many committed parents posting in this thread

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/lion-king-facts-6.jpg

[Tantrix]

lol what kind of third world country do you live in where people not only beat their kids, but also walk around in public with firearms

sounds like a shitty place, bet they dont even have universal healthcare

It's called a "free" country...those with universal healthcare wouldn't know anything about that.



What's the difference? You're using violent force to impose your will on your child.

From the looks of it, you're whining more in this thread over spanking than I ever did when I got my ass whipped as a kid.

[Lune]

It's called a "free" country...those with universal healthcare wouldn't know anything about that.

I'm not sure where you got the impression the United States of America was any more "free" than countries like Germany, Japan, Australia, the Netherlands, or Sweden. Is it because of our constitution? Theirs are pretty much the same. Is it because you think we have superior economic/social mobility here? We don't.

The one freedom you have here, that you don't quite have in those other advanced countries, is the freedom to die of disease because you can't afford treatment, or maybe to die of complications during childbirth.

Trolling aside, you dumb motherfuckers need to quit defending corporal punishment simply because you do it, and it was done to you. It's outright illegal in several countries and there is strong (http://www.cmaj.ca/content/161/7/805.long) scientific (http://www.phoenixchildrens.org/sites/default/files/PDFs/principles_and_practices-of_effective_discipline.pdf) evidence (http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/125/5/e1057) it is harmful (http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/CP79-CP-of-children-sexual-behavior-problems-08-Washington.pdf). Maybe if your white trash parents didn't smack you around so much, you'd have learned to think critically about your behaviors and whether they might be wrong.

I mean, come on, what a coincidence. You got your ass whipped as a kid, and here you are defending it.

Think about it. How do you want your kid to solve their problems when they grow up? With violent emotional outbursts? What about with words, patience, and logic? Which approach is going to give them a better chance to succeed in life?

[hatelore]

Lune, do you ever shut the fuck up? Srs quesssiun.

[Barkingturtle]

I bet Lune would shut up if someone stuck a gun in his fucking mouth and spanked him oh my god I came.

[hatelore]

Lol... Lune needs to take Barkingturtle classes.

[Barkingturtle]

You ever notice how dicks are shaped like guns?

[Lune]

Lune, do you ever shut the fuck up? Srs quesssiun.

are you angry enough to start sending me weird, barely coherent pm's again, or should I keep going?

Looks like I've touched a nerve. Were you beaten? Did they touch you? Tell Dr. Lune all about how you feel

[Barkingturtle]

You're pretty much not a man if you aren't repressing memories of childhood abuse.

[hatelore]

Lol, someone is mad. Did you srsly just fall for a weak stfu troll? Really?


Maybe you should stick to doing your comedy posts. Serious posts just aren't your thing.

[JPMorgan]

You're pretty much not a man if you aren't repressing memories of childhood abuse.

[Lron]

hatelore why do you send lune incoherent PM's?

[Barkingturtle]

Because coherence is beyond his capabilities?

[JPMorgan]

Think about it. How do you want your kid to solve their problems when they grow up? With violent emotional outbursts? What about with words, patience, and logic? Which approach is going to give them a better chance to succeed in life?

But, that way is more American than McDonalds' apple pie.

L2Patriot.

[hatelore]

Lol I sent that poor guy one pm. And all it said was "forgive me, for I have sinned". Lol. Another weak troll attempt that still seems to be stuck in his head, even now lol.

[hatelore]

A better question is, why the did you refuse to fund tesla , mister J P Morgan... You greedy bastard. And.why.the fuck do your banks try to charge me for notory public services? Those, are real questions.

[JPMorgan]

A better question is, why the did you refuse to fund tesla , mister J P Morgan... You greedy bastard. And.why.the fuck do your banks try to charge me for notory public services? Those, are real questions.

I believe my previous comment applies here as well.

[Barkingturtle]

Sounds romantic.

[Tantrix]

I'm not sure where you got the impression the United States of America was any more "free" than countries like Germany, Japan, Australia, the Netherlands, or Sweden. Is it because of our constitution? Theirs are pretty much the same. Is it because you think we have superior economic/social mobility here? We don't.

The one freedom you have here, that you don't quite have in those other advanced countries, is the freedom to die of disease because you can't afford treatment, or maybe to die of complications during childbirth.

You can't be serious. The U.S. is vastly different than every country you mentioned, which would probably explain why Americans aren't packing all their shit and flocking to Germany, Japan, Australia, The Netherlands, or Sweden...they are all coming HERE.

And if you can't afford treatment (as in health insurance) maybe you should look for a better paying job...perhaps one with medical benefits. Maybe if you'd have had your ass whipped as a kid so you would have been a responsible adult.

And just an FYI- Most women who die of complications during childbirth do so in hospitals, look it up. Millions of children are born just fine at home...that includes all 3 of mine.



Trolling aside, you dumb motherfuckers need to quit defending corporal punishment simply because you do it, and it was done to you. It's outright illegal in several countries and there is strong (http://www.cmaj.ca/content/161/7/805.long) scientific (http://www.phoenixchildrens.org/sites/default/files/PDFs/principles_and_practices-of_effective_discipline.pdf) evidence (http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/125/5/e1057) it is harmful (http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/CP79-CP-of-children-sexual-behavior-problems-08-Washington.pdf). Maybe if your white trash parents didn't smack you around so much, you'd have learned to think critically about your behaviors and whether they might be wrong.

I mean, come on, what a coincidence. You got your ass whipped as a kid, and here you are defending it.

Think about it. How do you want your kid to solve their problems when they grow up? With violent emotional outbursts? What about with words, patience, and logic? Which approach is going to give them a better chance to succeed in life?

Again, I got my ass tore up when I did wrong as a child and I'm just fine...not bitter at my parents whatsoever. It's called being an adult and having the common sense to know a little spanking here and there is vastly different from beating the shit out of your kids until they're black and blue. Btw- If you need "scientific evidence" to know how to raise children, you probably shouldn't have had any to begin with.

[Tantrix]

You can't be serious. The U.S. is vastly different than every country you mentioned, which would probably explain why Americans aren't packing all their shit and flocking to Germany, Japan, Australia, The Netherlands, or Sweden...they are all coming HERE.

And if you can't afford treatment (as in health insurance) maybe you should look for a better paying job...perhaps one with medical benefits. Maybe if you'd have had your ass whipped as a kid so you would've been a responsible adult. ;)

And just an FYI- Most women who die of complications during childbirth do so in hospitals, look it up. Millions of children are born just fine at home...that includes all 3 of mine.





Again, I got my ass tore up when I did wrong as a child and I'm just fine...not bitter at my parents whatsoever. It's called being an adult and having the common sense to know a little spanking here and there is vastly different from beating the shit out of your kids until they're black and blue. Btw- If you need "scientific evidence" to know how to raise children, you probably shouldn't have had any to begin with.

[JPMorgan]

You can't be serious. The U.S. is vastly different than every country you mentioned, which would probably explain why Americans aren't packing all their shit and flocking to Germany, Japan, Australia, The Netherlands, or Sweden...they are all coming HERE.


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[Lron]

Using violence to curb a defenseless child's behavior, regardless if it is spanking or hitting is unjustifiable and unequivocally immoral according to any civilized person's standards.

Teach your kids the self ownership and non aggression principles >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spanking...when it comes to achieving desirable behavior from a youngster.

[Barkingturtle]

Honestly, I hope most of you beat your children to death. Have some compassion.

[Tantrix]

Using violence to curb a defenseless child's behavior, regardless if it is spanking or hitting is unjustifiable and unequivocally immoral according to any civilized person's standards.

Teach your kids the self ownership and non aggression principles >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spanking...when it comes to achieving desirable behavior from a youngster.



Yeah, I get where you're coming from...I know some parents that do this instead of spanking:

http://thischarmingmum.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/3u8v44-240x300.jpg



Their kids are also the most ill-behaved little heathens I've ever seen too, with no respect for their parents at all. Then again, I can't blame them...haven't met a kid yet that was scared of "time out".

[JPMorgan]

Their kids are also the most ill-behaved little heathens I've ever seen too, with no respect for their parents at all. Then again, I can't blame them...haven't met a kid yet that was scared of "time out".

Some kids are just bastards. It might be because they're too intelligent to be controlled by empty threats, or not intelligent enough to understand that they aren't the center of the universe. It's cool if you don't want to spank your kid, but don't let your miniature jerk wagon run a muck in public until you figure out how to control it.

[Lron]

Why would you want to "scare" your kids into submission?

Do you know what the definition of terrorism is?

You are either a muslim fundamentalist, an old testament literalist or just a genuinely limited person.

You do realize spying on all your citizens and using public executions also exponentially decreases the bad behavior governments dont want from their citizens?

Your argument sounds a whole lot like every authoritarian government official that has ever lived.

[Lron]

Some kids are just bastards. It might be because they're too intelligent to be controlled by empty threats, or not intelligent enough to understand that they aren't the center of the universe. It's cool if you don't want to spank your kid, but don't let your miniature jerk wagon run a muck in public until you figure out how to control it.

agreed 100%.

[JPMorgan]

Why would you want to "scare" your kids into submission?

Do you know what the definition of terrorism is?

You are either a muslim fundamentalist, an old testament literalist or just a genuinely limited person.

You do realize spying on all your citizens and using public executions also exponentially decreases the bad behavior governments dont want from their citizens?

Your argument sounds a whole lot like every authoritarian government official that has ever lived.

Are you suggesting that the relationship between a parent and a child is a democratic one? I mean, I don't care either way, I'm just pointing out what this comment seems to suggest.

Also: too many Americans are Christian for my tastes. But, given that they are, why does this fact surprise you? They're some of the most OG terrorists there ever were.

P.S. NSA is totes flagging this in their metadata

[Lron]

Trampling over your child's natural rights to be free of force, fraud and coercion =/= democratic relationship.

[Lron]

*Not trampling*

[Lron]

My comment "suggests" nothing other than to teach your kids the non aggression and self ownership principle through your words AND actions.

If every parent did this...violent crimes would plummet in a generation.

But if that happened, then counties and cities wouldnt have an endless stream of revenue making government bloated and rich so no "authority" figure is going to tell you to do this...as they depend on dumb people being violent to ensure their jobs.

[JPMorgan]

*Not trampling*

Coercion:
1. the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats.

Does this mean parents shouldn't be allowed to threaten their kid with a time out when they make a scene in public over not getting the toy they want?

I think talking about a child's natural rights is kind of tricky. We already impose a large amount of legal limitations on minors. In reality, as a society, we pretty much strip children of their rights. Their relationship to their parents, and to the state, is an authoritarian one.

[Nocsucow]

i know one thing... as a parent if a complete stranger came up to me and told me not to be yelling or getting on to my child in public ... automatic face smash

[Lron]

Coercion:
1. the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats.

Does this mean parents shouldn't be allowed to threaten their kid with a time out when they make a scene in public over not getting the toy they want?

I think talking about a child's natural rights is kind of tricky. We already impose a large amount of legal limitations on minors. In reality, as a society, we pretty much strip children of their rights. Their relationship to their parents, and to the state, is an authoritarian one.

Its the threat of force and the act of force i object to. Time outs are fine.

[Lron]

Government also strips adults of their rights....the government has become overtly authoritarian on the left and the right.

[Lron]

i know one thing... as a parent if a complete stranger came up to me and told me not to be yelling or getting on to my child in public ... automatic face smash

Yelling, more than often, is more annoying than your child's behavior to the outside observer.

If i see you hitting your kid in public and tell you to stop and you try to use force against me, you will wake up with a flash light in your eyes.

Be warned.

[Tantrix]

My comment "suggests" nothing other than to teach your kids the non aggression and self ownership principle through your words AND actions.

If every parent did this...violent crimes would plummet in a generation.

But if that happened, then counties and cities wouldnt have an endless stream of revenue making government bloated and rich so no "authority" figure is going to tell you to do this...as they depend on dumb people being violent to ensure their jobs.


Very well, but what it *sounds* like you're implying is that kids who get/got spankings when they were young are all the violent criminals that are roaming the streets or locked up right now...


...while actually, the one thing that most male convicts serving time right now have in common is: They grew up without a father in the home.




I don't know how it is where you are or how you grew up, but around here it's usually the father that disciplines the children in the home (and usually the one to give spankings). So in short, was I "scared" of my father tearing my ass up if I did something I knew I shouldn't as a child? Of course...if I didn't get out of line it was because I knew what would be waiting for me afterwords.

[Tantrix]

Yelling, more than often, is more annoying than your child's behavior to the outside observer.

If i see you hitting your kid in public and tell you to stop and you try to use force against me, you will wake up with a flash light in your eyes.

Be warned.



Wait a second...you "tell someone to stop"? Under what authority? What are you going to do about it if they don't comply? Blow a rape whistle?

You might want to check your state's laws, because here where I am if you approach me in a threatening manner (especially with something in your hand) in public...you are subject to staring down the barrel of my gun. Also keep in mind any witnesses in the area will see you being the aggressor in that situation.



Your eagerness to confront a complete stranger (whom you have no authority over) could very well get yourself hurt or even killed. I mean, you can do what you want but when I'm in public I mind my own business.

[JPMorgan]

Its the threat of force and the act of force i object to.

Teach your kids the self ownership and non aggression principles
If i see you hitting your kid in public and tell you to stop and you try to use force against me, you will wake up with a flash light in your eyes.

Be warned.

Irony as intended?



...while actually, the one thing that most male convicts serving time right now have in common is: They grew up without a father in the home.

I believe that poverty has been demonstrated to be the main catalyst of both violent and non-violent crimes. Being raised in a single parent household is going to contribute to that.

[Lron]

Irony as intended?





I believe that poverty has been demonstrated to be the main catalyst of both violent and non-violent crimes. Being raised in a single parent household is going to contribute to that.

If i feel imminently threatened I will knock your block off.

How is self defense violating my previous endorsement of the non aggression principle? Public school system = failing humanity.

[Lron]

Wait a second...you "tell someone to stop"? Under what authority? What are you going to do about it if they don't comply? Blow a rape whistle?

You might want to check your state's laws, because here where I am if you approach me in a threatening manner (especially with something in your hand) in public...you are subject to staring down the barrel of my gun. Also keep in mind any witnesses in the area will see you being the aggressor in that situation.



Your eagerness to confront a complete stranger (whom you have no authority over) could very well get yourself hurt or even killed. I mean, you can do what you want but when I'm in public I mind my own business.

Would you confront a stranger if you saw him/her putting a cigarette out on his kid?

I will protect defenseless people from all forms of physical abuse no matter how benign you think the act may be.

[Strifer]

http://o.onionstatic.com/images/13/13360/original/700.hq.jpg?3972

[Lron]

You give me the authority to intervene as soon as you start physically abusing your child...legally and morally under any civilized local, state, or federal law.

[Lron]

You give me the authority to intervene as soon as you start physically abusing your child...legally and morally under any civilized local, state, or federal law.

And just to make sure I am clear, even if i lived in some backwards country in some backwards city where abusing a child was not illegal, I would still intervene and stop child abuse if i had the chance.


Its called having a working moral compass.

[Nocsucow]

im in law enforcment bud.. you know how many times we get called out to peoples house because a kid called the cops on their parents spanking them .... do you know how many times we arrest the parents for child abuse ? about 1 out of 40

[Nocsucow]

but you not being a parent will never understand what its like to teach a child right from wrong .. so yes PLEASE I MEAN PLEASE PLEASE interrupt me while im trying to teach my child right from wrong and you might not even wake up at all

[Sidelle]

I'm not sure where you got the impression the United States of America was any more "free" than countries like Germany, Japan, Australia, the Netherlands, or Sweden. Is it because of our constitution? Theirs are pretty much the same. Is it because you think we have superior economic/social mobility here? We don't.

Just a couple things. You might not agree but America is absolutely more free than the abovementioned countries precisely because of our law-abiding citizens' right to bear arms.

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria)

Trolling aside, you dumb motherfuckers need to quit defending corporal punishment simply because you do it, and it was done to you. It's outright illegal in several countries and there is strong scientific evidence it is harmful. Maybe if your white trash parents didn't smack you around so much, you'd have learned to think critically about your behaviors and whether they might be wrong.

I mean, come on, what a coincidence. You got your ass whipped as a kid, and here you are defending it.

Think about it. How do you want your kid to solve their problems when they grow up? With violent emotional outbursts? What about with words, patience, and logic? Which approach is going to give them a better chance to succeed in life?

Lune, sometimes I enjoy your posts but I just gotta ask why you're so hostile. You did say "Trolling aside.." so is this really what you think of everyone who disagrees with you or just having a bad night?

Calling people dumb motherfuckers and white trash (or worse) because they're "wrong" for not having the same opinion as you isn't exactly a positive thing to teach children either. By the way, how many kids do you have? Please be sure to teach them they can't go around chewing people's faces off because of silly differences of opinion. :D


TL;DR?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbiqozlGMC1rai03eo1_500.jpg

[Sidelle]

Yeah, I get where you're coming from...I know some parents that do this instead of spanking:

http://thischarmingmum.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/3u8v44-240x300.jpg



Their kids are also the most ill-behaved little heathens I've ever seen too, with no respect for their parents at all. Then again, I can't blame them...haven't met a kid yet that was scared of "time out".

^^ This. That fucking nanny.. Lol. Would love to throw her ass down a few hundred thousand "naughty steps". Oops my violent nature is showing, I need a time-out.

[Lron]

but you not being a parent will never understand what its like to teach a child right from wrong .. so yes PLEASE I MEAN PLEASE PLEASE interrupt me while im trying to teach my child right from wrong and you might not even wake up at all

I will interrupt you if i see you abusing your child and you wouldn't do shit but piss your pants in fear of me, lets not lie to each other here.

No alpha male or tough guy hits a kid.

Keep up the beta male behavior mr. law dog.

[Lron]

^^ This. That fucking nanny.. Lol. Would love to throw her ass down a few hundred thousand "naughty steps". Oops my violent nature is showing, I need a time-out.

Sidelle needs to be punished

[Sidelle]

http://i.imgur.com/bY36O5S.jpg

Lol.

[Lron]

I dont understand that type of humor. Physically assaulting a kid isnt funny to me for some reason, i guess im weird.

[Lron]

Please remember its not a "conservative" or "no nonsense" or "small government" position to hit your kid.

All you have done is position yourself as the authoritarian government that your kid cant escape from.

Hitting your kid a is neo-liberal idea and the product of big government influence into your familial infrastructure.

A true conservative, a true believer in rugged individualism and natural rights would rather hit themselves in the face with a hammer than inflict violence on a defenseless child.

Spanking your kid = Authoritarian liberalism

Teaching your kid how to fight and to defend himself against bullies = Rugged Individualist conservative/libertarian constitutionalists

[Nocsucow]

Lron just shut the fuck up.... these threads you post really show how pathetic you're life is... Mr server legend you ain't shit in my book I don't care how long you kept a PoS server up and running

[hatelore]

Everyone and there parrot by now knows Lron is full of shit, that being said...

Some kids just need different types of discipline. For instance my daughter; I have spanked her a few times, but I realized very fast that spanking her does the exact opposite then what I intended it to do. She just gives you that: "you killed my fuckimg gold fish and I will never forget" look. But the corner? Works everytime, she acts much better after a time out.


My sons on the other hand... Put them in the corner and they have a blast. They just come up with fun things to do, in the corner lol. But just the threat of a spanking and they begin to straighten up. Dumb fucks like Lune, who most likely don't even have kids, are the first to try to tell others how to parent.


Sidelle hit the nail on the head though, the reason for a good portion of career criminals is because they lacked a father figure growing up.

[Lune]

Just a couple things. You might not agree but America is absolutely more free than the abovementioned countries precisely because of our law-abiding citizens' right to bear arms.

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria)

I don't support or enjoy that freedom. I wish it would go away. And I also wish people wouldn't put so much stock in what 18th century enlightenment politicians had to say about 'arms', back when 'arms' referred to a musket that could fire about 1 shot, inaccurately, every minute or so-- with the spirit of the amendment being oriented toward preventing an authoritarian, tyrannical government... which is something small arms are almost completely ineffectual at today. I don't find the 2nd Amendment a compelling justification to slay somebody who is trying to rob you. That's all I'm gonna say, I'm tired of the gun thing.

Lune, sometimes I enjoy your posts but I just gotta ask why you're so hostile. You did say "Trolling aside.." so is this really what you think of everyone who disagrees with you or just having a bad night?

Calling people dumb motherfuckers and white trash (or worse) because they're "wrong" for not having the same opinion as you isn't exactly a positive thing to teach children either. By the way, how many kids do you have? Please be sure to teach them they can't go around chewing people's faces off because of silly differences of opinion. :D

Well that was mainly directed at hatelore, who escalated it to hostility way before I did. Clearly this is a sore spot for parents though. Even so, if you want me to cup your balls while I tell you why I disagree, there's a place for that. But you're not the first person to call me hostile the last couple days. I don't know what the deal is. Must be male PMS or low T or something.

No kids but if I had any I would beat them all regularly. Devil's advocate is how I refine my thoughts

[Zoolander]

http://i.imgur.com/hqSDS1z.gif ?

thats pretty hot, got more of these? :D

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

All children deserve to be punched in the face for stepping out of line. I think we've seen here on P99 what happens when you lob idle threats and half enforced rules at children.

[myriverse]

Worst parts of P99 were probably the ones that were punched in the face.

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

Worst parts of P99 were probably the ones that were punched in the face.

Doubtful. Corporal punishment is the best thing to ever happen to humanity. I see too many examples here of folks who shouldn't have made it beyond the first or second trimester.

[Ahldagor]

none of you bringing up the disciplinarian-protestant system most of us were raised in. just like god we punish out of love, right? keeping a focus around violence does what again? oh right!, it perpetuates a cycle of violence even when rational thought is introduced to the child who can then reason that violence is an appropriate response in a situation by following an established line of logic that was introduced to them by their parents.

tl;dr"
lron's grocery store crusade will do nothing to change the child's impressions of violence and that child will just watch them get beat by their parents then their beating will continue while barkingturtle masturbates in the security camera control room

tl;dr of the tl;dr:
abortion is fine up to the age of six

[Servellious]

Is this lune dude for real? Who would protect you your wife and your kids from a home invasion robbery? Please don't say the police

[Ahldagor]

Is this lune dude for real? Who would protect you your wife and your kids from a home invasion robbery? Please don't say the police

do you think that burglars intentionally go to occupied domiciles?
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/vdhb.txt

[Tantrix]

Is this lune dude for real? Who would protect you your wife and your kids from a home invasion robbery? Please don't say the police

Haven't you been following the thread? He would try to "reason" with the criminal with logic and such, and if that didn't work...he would then tell the criminal to hand over his or her gun/knife, then put the robber in time-out. ;)

[Hamorrhoid]

Sounds like a lot of vegan pussy chatter in this thread.

[Lune]

vegan pussy chatter

congrats you just named my band

[hatelore]

Hey Lune, can you ride over here on your bicycle and put my kids in time out for me please? They are acting up again. K.. thannnnks.

[Lune]

cant moms making lasagna tonite