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JPMorgan
03-25-2014, 06:21 PM
Can anyone point to any decent 1 handers with a proc that will go off around level 30? I'm using a Staff of Battle but I'm still having a hell of a time pulling agro from my group mates.

Also interested in any legitimate guides that anyone could recommend. Thanks.

evan1612
03-25-2014, 06:22 PM
2 obsidian shards

HeallunRumblebelly
03-25-2014, 06:38 PM
...Just use the staff of battle. It's not an aggro war until the 50s really :P

baalzy
03-25-2014, 06:49 PM
At your level you can either have crappy damage while rarely getting aggro from a low damage proc or you can have good damage and kill the mob before it matters that you don't have aggro.

Jimjam
03-25-2014, 06:53 PM
Have someone root the mob. Stand on it's toes. Kill it quick.

khanable
03-25-2014, 06:55 PM
Rumor has it those claw impalers do stupid amounts of hate generation. I haven't formerly tested it yet because I'm lazy as shit, but from my informal testing they definitely snapped aggro quite well.

http://wiki.project1999.com/Scorpikis_Claw_Impaler

They proc at level 30.

Be our test case. The hero we need.

Otherwise get a staff of battle and group with people who can root and who are not dumb.

Dragonmist
03-25-2014, 07:02 PM
No idea on pricing but pre level 30 High dmg weapon or these
Goblin Skull Crusher
MAGIC ITEM
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Blunt Atk Delay: 32
DMG: 7 Dmg Bonus: 25
SV COLD: +6
Effect: Stun (Combat, Casting Time: Instant) at Level 15
WT: 4.3 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR CLR PAL RNG SHD DRU BRD SHM BST
Race: ALL

Obsidian Shard
MAGIC ITEM
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: Piercing Atk Delay: 25
DMG: 6 Dmg Bonus: 25
Backstab DMG: 6
Effect: Obsidian Shatter (Combat, Casting Time: Instant) at Level 16
WT: 2.5 Size: MEDIUM
Class: ALL except CLR PAL DRU MNK SHM BER
Race: ALL


Smoldering Brand
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Blunt Atk Delay: 22
DMG: 9 Dmg Bonus: 25
STR: +3
Effect: Burn (Combat, Casting Time: Instant)
WT: 5.0 Size: SMALL
Class: ALL except BER
Race: ALL

At 37+ These work
Short Sword of the Ykesha
MAGIC ITEM
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Slashing Atk Delay: 24
DMG: 8 Dmg Bonus: 25
Effect: Ykesha (Combat, Casting Time: Instant) at Level 37
WT: 4.5 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR PAL RNG SHD BRD ROG
Race: ALL

Ykeshan War Club
MAGIC ITEM
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Blunt Atk Delay: 24
DMG: 9 Dmg Bonus: 25
Effect: Ykesha (Combat, Casting Time: Instant) at Level 40
WT: 3.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: ALL except NEC WIZ MAG ENC BER
Race: ALL

Scimitar of the Ykesha
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Slashing Atk Delay: 22
DMG: 8 Dmg Bonus: 25
Effect: Ykesha (Combat, Casting Time: Instant) at Level 37
WT: 2.2 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR
Race: ALL except ERU HIE


Kunzar Ku'juch
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Slashing Atk Delay: 22
DMG: 8 Dmg Bonus: 25
Effect: Engulfing Darkness (Combat, Casting Time: Instant) at Level 40
WT: 2.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR
Race: ALL


Sarnak Warhammer
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Blunt Atk Delay: 20
DMG: 9 Dmg Bonus: 25
Effect: Stun (Combat, Casting Time: Instant) at Level 46
WT: 2.8 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR PAL RNG SHD MNK BRD ROG BST
Race: ALL


Goodluck

Taffan
03-25-2014, 07:05 PM
Best bet is Staff of Battle, with a lot of str and a haste item. Of course after you break the damage cap.

khanable
03-25-2014, 07:14 PM
ya'll mofuckas are gonna make me level up a second warrior with claw impalers aren't you

JPMorgan
03-25-2014, 07:23 PM
ya'll mofuckas are gonna make me level up a second warrior with claw impalers aren't you

I actually have one in my ranged slot right now. I'm 40% into level 29, will post findings at 30.

Thanks everyone for the advice.

khanable
03-25-2014, 07:25 PM
hooray

Rkelly
03-25-2014, 07:32 PM
Hey cucumbers what are your thoughts on equipping a warrior with primarily Dex gear for leveling up to maximize hate in groups

JPMorgan
03-25-2014, 07:37 PM
Hey cucumbers what are your thoughts on equipping a warrior with primarily Dex gear for leveling up to maximize hate in groups

I would like to hear your thoughts on stat priority while leveling as well, Cucu.

Tasslehofp99
03-25-2014, 08:10 PM
obsidian shards, best agro wep in game bros!

khanable
03-25-2014, 08:26 PM
Hey cucumbers what are your thoughts on equipping a warrior with primarily Dex gear for leveling up to maximize hate in groups

I would like to hear your thoughts on stat priority while leveling as well, Cucu.

I stacked HP. IMO the return on increased dex really isn't worth it over stacking HP and grouping with a sufficient rooter/non idiots.

There are many ways to hold aggro
Not many ways to keep yourself alive

fastboy21
03-25-2014, 09:44 PM
the best war aggro you can get is playing with folks that understand how war aggro works and know how to manage their own aggro.

the next best thing is making sure you grp in places where you can get your taunt to work. if you group in a spot where most of the monsters aren't blue to you then you may as well not bother hitting the taunt key. you can do it, but only with someone that is willing to keep the mob rooted.

as for weps: I would go with the lowest delay primary wep you can afford and in secondary the best ratio wep you can afford. if the best you can afford is close to a ssoy then I would trade off ratio slightly for proc chance. if the best you can afford is top of the line I would go straight dps weps until 50ish.

for many typical wars on a budget this will look like lammy or jade mace in primary. wyrmslayer or jarsath trident in secondary. at 37 I would consider swapping out secondary for an ssoy.

it very much depends on where and who you are grouping with. I end up carrying around a variety of weps for different situations when tanking or just doing dps in a grp.

Clark
03-26-2014, 06:09 AM
No idea on pricing but pre level 30 High dmg weapon or these
Goblin Skull Crusher
MAGIC ITEM
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Blunt Atk Delay: 32
DMG: 7 Dmg Bonus: 25
SV COLD: +6
Effect: Stun (Combat, Casting Time: Instant) at Level 15
WT: 4.3 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR CLR PAL RNG SHD DRU BRD SHM BST
Race: ALL

Obsidian Shard
MAGIC ITEM
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: Piercing Atk Delay: 25
DMG: 6 Dmg Bonus: 25
Backstab DMG: 6
Effect: Obsidian Shatter (Combat, Casting Time: Instant) at Level 16
WT: 2.5 Size: MEDIUM
Class: ALL except CLR PAL DRU MNK SHM BER
Race: ALL


Smoldering Brand
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Blunt Atk Delay: 22
DMG: 9 Dmg Bonus: 25
STR: +3
Effect: Burn (Combat, Casting Time: Instant)
WT: 5.0 Size: SMALL
Class: ALL except BER
Race: ALL

At 37+ These work
Short Sword of the Ykesha
MAGIC ITEM
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Slashing Atk Delay: 24
DMG: 8 Dmg Bonus: 25
Effect: Ykesha (Combat, Casting Time: Instant) at Level 37
WT: 4.5 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR PAL RNG SHD BRD ROG
Race: ALL

Ykeshan War Club
MAGIC ITEM
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Blunt Atk Delay: 24
DMG: 9 Dmg Bonus: 25
Effect: Ykesha (Combat, Casting Time: Instant) at Level 40
WT: 3.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: ALL except NEC WIZ MAG ENC BER
Race: ALL

Scimitar of the Ykesha
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Slashing Atk Delay: 22
DMG: 8 Dmg Bonus: 25
Effect: Ykesha (Combat, Casting Time: Instant) at Level 37
WT: 2.2 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR
Race: ALL except ERU HIE


Kunzar Ku'juch
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Slashing Atk Delay: 22
DMG: 8 Dmg Bonus: 25
Effect: Engulfing Darkness (Combat, Casting Time: Instant) at Level 40
WT: 2.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR
Race: ALL


Sarnak Warhammer
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Blunt Atk Delay: 20
DMG: 9 Dmg Bonus: 25
Effect: Stun (Combat, Casting Time: Instant) at Level 46
WT: 2.8 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR PAL RNG SHD MNK BRD ROG BST
Race: ALL

Quineloe
03-26-2014, 07:15 AM
2 obsidian shards

Rumor has it those claw impalers do stupid amounts of hate generation. I haven't formerly tested it yet because I'm lazy as shit, but from my informal testing they definitely snapped aggro quite well.

http://wiki.project1999.com/Scorpikis_Claw_Impaler

They proc at level 30.

Be our test case. The hero we need.

Otherwise get a staff of battle and group with people who can root and who are not dumb.

I have a 32 warrior, gimme a pair and I'll test it for you.

khanable
03-26-2014, 09:56 AM
I have a 32 warrior, gimme a pair and I'll test it for you.

I've got one on me now, I'll find another

Find me in game

baalzy
03-26-2014, 02:52 PM
Part of the problem with trying to proc is the base rate is only 2x /minute at 100 dex and because most everyone is using weapons from lvl 40+ dungeons the mobs die so fast it just doesn't matter.

50+ once you're rocking 40-60+ dex from shaman buffs & can gear a bit more for dex & mobs last longer than 10 seconds you start hitting areas where you can proc on a mob early enough in a fight that it makes a difference.

Quineloe
03-26-2014, 02:59 PM
Part of the problem with trying to proc is the base rate is only 2x /minute at 100 dex and because most everyone is using weapons from lvl 40+ dungeons the mobs die so fast it just doesn't matter.

50+ once you're rocking 40-60+ dex from shaman buffs & can gear a bit more for dex & mobs last longer than 10 seconds you start hitting areas where you can proc on a mob early enough in a fight that it makes a difference.
It really depends on what you're fighting. If you're in a camp where you can pull mid to high blues all day, it really doesn't matter (ie, level 20 warrior tanking unrest), but if you're a 30sh group doing Goblins in high keep, you also fight red cons - and these really don't die that fast. Procs help immensely keeping those raiders on you.

khanable
03-26-2014, 03:26 PM
It's 2/min at 255dex with the main hand only, 3/min at 255dex mh&oh.

At 100dex with mh&oh it's definitely under 2/min. 140dex is the cutoff for 2/min using two proc weapons.

That's why I think it's just not worth it to invest in stacking dex at the lower levels. Stack hp and stay alive longer and make clerics have to heal a bit less.

lecompte
03-26-2014, 03:59 PM
I recommend faster weapons. Each hit seems to generate a base amount of agro, regardless of damage, so if you attack fast enough, you'll stay up on agro fairly well.

Argh
03-26-2014, 04:04 PM
Max dps until you can use two yaks and then get your dex over 100 with a cloak of shadows, bracer of scavenging, and a grotesque mask (+25dex).

Ganjar
03-26-2014, 04:09 PM
Yah, im a useless son of a bitch at lvl 30 with jade maces lol as a gnome warrior. Good lord, people die left and right!

Argh
03-26-2014, 04:15 PM
Yah, im a useless son of a bitch at lvl 30 with jade maces lol as a gnome warrior. Good lord, people die left and right!

Buy root nets x alot; use them for saving people.