azrael didnt poach members from red dawn

[marie]

we left due to decisions made by topjew. sooner you all accept the truth the sooner you can make better decisions on the box. I contacted lite myself and told him I wanted to join.

heartbrand has this idea that he can do no wrong and people will follow him in blind faith. You have to realize old comrade that it was your decisions as a guild leader that led to the demise of your guild. I'll give you a few pointers so if you decide to make red dawn 3.0 you will have a better chance at survival.

-trying to evade pvp 90-95% of the time is going to make you lose members
-trying to be a snake allying temporarily with 1 faction to zerg another faction for pixel self gain will make you lose members.
-twisting words to make lite or anybody look bad because you have a personal quarrel prob wont make you lose any members but will reflect negatively on your image as leader.

having access to azrael forums and red dawn forums i had the opportunity to see some serious word twisting by topjew and i could understand to a degree since he was a guild leader and had an image to uphold but at the same time made me sick to my stomach.

I've been in just about every guild on the box and azrael for roughly 2 weeks now and I'll say there aren't any toxic people in this guild.

Don't listen to hearsay to determine how you feel about another person or player. So many people say Lite is toxic etc but since ive been in azrael I see nothing of the sort. People like tibberz do not belong in Nihilum and I bet they would have so much fun in azrael and should really give it a chance.

The past two weeks in azrael has gotten me as close as possible to the feeling I felt playing on this box the first month it was released. All you vets know what feeling im talking about, the first 4 weeks of p99 red was when it was really alive. back in the 600 pop, It will never be what it was, but with this crew I'm having about as much fun as I did that first month of the server

http://puu.sh/7Lrps.jpg

[Bardalicious]

That's a whole lot of words I didn't read.

[Genedin]

I wonder how Andis and Marie decide who gets to suck Lite's dick on which night? I don't even have a problem with Azrael but you guys are fucking pathetic.

[Danien]

Sometimes I actually think Jibeknn believes the shit he's spewing.

Then I'm like naw.

[Rellapse36]

Out of every game,Every guild, i have ever been in , Heartbrand was the biggest hypocrite and 2 faced leader i have ever played with. He is also more emotional then a fucking girl. He had this annoying effect in team speak where he would yell a few words out of every sentence.

1/10 wud not be in same guild with him again

[Andis]

I wonder how Andis and Marie decide who gets to suck Lite's dick on which night? I don't even have a problem with Azrael but you guys are fucking pathetic.

what? lol

I feel bad for this mad cat

glad your having fun jibeknn

let the yt fly

[heartbrand]

felt so good seeing xant doing what he does best the other day: shitting on andis 8) 8) 8)

[Andis]

felt so good seeing xant doing what he does best the other day: shitting on andis 8) 8) 8)

lucky tstaff it happens

one time ks, what he does best alright

hey heartbrand, hows RD?? 8) 8) 8) 8)

[heartbrand]

How's Founding Fathers? 8) 8) 8) 8)

[Tecmos Deception]

-trying to evade pvp 90-95% of the time is going to make you lose members

Makes sense. Seems like it probably was a bit more complicated than RD simply running from PVP 9 times out of 10 though.


-trying to be a snake allying temporarily with 1 faction to zerg another faction for pixel self gain will make you lose members.

How else is a 3-guild/3-team system going to work? Not trying to troll, I seriously don't understand how else it could possibly work.


-twisting words to make lite or anybody look bad because you have a personal quarrel prob wont make you lose any members but will reflect negatively on your image as leader.

I get the impression that everyone twists words to make the other people look bad. Remember that thread where you posted about someone plugging as if you were gloating, when just the day before you said if someone plugs on you it means YOU'RE the bad player for not killing them before they could plug and that no one cares about plugging?

Again, not trying to troll. I just want to know what's going on.

[Azure]

Best part of these forums. I step off the spam posts for 5 mins and people shoot themselves in the foot.

[Genedin]

Lol I'm not mad at all. I just find it humorous you and your home boy are always making these cheer leading posts no one cares about.

I honestly think this server would be 100X better off if they deleted these forums. Most of you guys are pretty cool in-game but these forums really leech the toxicity out of folks.

Also, I am still 50% rustled my account is banned admittedly. It is probably for the best.

[Azure]

OMG free genedin, dood is legit - why? boxing?

[Bardalicious]

Isn't OP the guy that got banned for breaking server rules by griefing out-of-range characters, cried about it for sympathy for weeks, was offered help getting back to 60 + gear by the guild he was currently in (RD) then came back just to guild hop and suck someone elses dick for pixels in the end?

Just wondering if I have that right.

[heartbrand]

Basically in a nut shell, OP mad RD didn't suicide jihad more with level 50's in cloth gear against what was then a 50 man strong Nihilum but now that Nihilum is down to 25 lowbie apps and 30+ AZ level 60 melees returned to the game he's a pro @ pvp or something.

[Tecmos Deception]

Makes sense. Seems like it probably was a bit more complicated than RD simply running from PVP 9 times out of 10 though.




How else is a 3-guild/3-team system going to work? Not trying to troll, I seriously don't understand how else it could possibly work.




I get the impression that everyone twists words to make the other people look bad. Remember that thread where you posted about someone plugging as if you were gloating, when just the day before you said if someone plugs on you it means YOU'RE the bad player for not killing them before they could plug and that no one cares about plugging?

Again, not trying to troll. I just want to know what's going on.

Nevermind, don't even bother answering me. I've decided I'm just going to /random to decide what guild I join. Keep your fingers crossed Chewie, maybe the fates want us to be BFFs!

[Rellapse36]

did you make a post or two when he was in RD saying he was a beast in PvP? Think it was a GM event in EC or something iirc.

Funny how someone speaks the truth about your hypocrite ass you get all rustled like you wasn't sucking his dick 1 month ago.

[Genedin]

Sektor logged into my account back when we were in Force together. Same reason a bunch of people got banned. Though it seems many are unbanned now? That's life I guess.

[heartbrand]

I think Jibeknn is good @ PVP. I also find it funny he wants to knock RD for not PVPing as much as AZ, when AZ has 30+ level 60 melee train in gr8 gear and RD was a bunch of 50's in cloth.

[Bardalicious]

Nevermind, don't even bother answering me. I've decided I'm just going to /random to decide what guild I join. Keep your fingers crossed Chewie, maybe the fates want us to be BFFs!

Flowers is the ONLY guild to join on Red 99. What do you have to random for? :confused:

[Smedy]

it boogles my mind that heartbrand thinks people will treat him loyally when he leads red dawn from one team to the other as the week changes... people voiced their opinions, choose not to listen? shits going to happen

basic diplomacy 101

[heartbrand]

it boogles my mind that heartbrand thinks people will treat him loyally when he leads red dawn from one team to the other as the week changes... people voiced their opinions, choose not to listen? shits going to happen

basic diplomacy 101

Actually, the vast majority of people were all 100% supportive of working with Nihilum, hence the vote, the TS vote, etc. Who left to AZ over working with Nilly? Jibeknn and Nacht. Xantille / Exed / Dacuk, all hardcore PVP'ers remained in RD. Our issue was the EXP nerf killing newer blood's ability to level up and join in on the fun. But shrug, trolls gonna troll.

[Rellapse36]

Did you not send some tells to Lite telling him Nizzar did not appreciate your guild or something? Seems to me exp was not the death of your guild but your shitty choices.

[heartbrand]

The members stated they felt they wanted more loot out of our arrangement with Nihilum. Personally I thought we were getting a lot and should be happy, but I did what members wanted and tried to work for more. Ultimately, that nothing to do with anything. Our numbers dwindled, not because people left, but because the majority of our newer players stopped logging in because EXP was nerfed, and typical Red99 burnout. Coupled with the fact that the wave of new players stopped [the initial RD wave which was brought by the shutting down of EQMac], it wasn't feasible to build towards the numbers needed for Velious. I'm more than confident RD could have continued on and sniped mobs on sim repops and the like, but the goal for the guild was to kill things in Velious, not snipe a couple of 32k hp mobs.

[also like 8 people losing their accounts due to Sektor didn't help]

[Tassador]

Let's make a list of who takes eq to serious and ban those fuckers.

[heartbrand]

Whos genius idea was it to associate with/share info with a KNOWN rulebreaker?
qq u made ur bed now sleep in it

Yes, because I can absolutely know in advance that Sektor logged into Player_01's account in 2012 for 30 seconds and therefore is likely to be banned.

[heartbrand]

Is that the story we're going with now?
goog1

Not sherrif srs? Cyren is banned because sektor logged into his account before, same with Exed, Mordeath etc. The GM's just did a IP Query and banned all accounts Sektor ever logged into.

[Bardalicious]

Wasn't Sektor himself in RD? Forgive my ignorance.

[Rellapse36]

How many permanent bans ever been gave out? like 2 salty and abacab

Sektor is/was a cool dude always down to help people when he was around.

Your choice to ally with Nihilum was a bad move. It cost you a whole lot of time/effort.

[heartbrand]

Here's how "allying" with Nihilum decision came about [aka they give us a mob to not work with Azrael]

I bat phoned RD, we had TS meeting

"hey guys, Azrael split from the guild to do their own thing, Nihilum wants to give us a mob if we don't work with AZ, what do you guys think?"

"Awesome" "fuck AZ "Wow thats great" "Yes"

It was about 95% unison, with the exception of like Badger who left. Anyone who didn't approve of it and kept it to themselves rather than voicing their opinion, and then rage quit over it, I have zero respect for. We had an open discussion, and everyone was free to give their thoughts. But keep pushing that party line dawg.

[Rellapse36]

Yea the force crew your officers hated Azrael they are also retarded and the most selfish people i have ever met. Congrats on wasting hundreds of hours building a guild tho

[Genedin]

You have no idea about the history between Force and Azrael and are constantly talking out of your ass. Perhaps you should give forums a rest for a while.

[Rellapse36]

Azrael > Force is all that is needed to know

[Genedin]

United States > Ottoman Empire

amazing logic

[marie]

was personally sad to see RD go. Was starting to redevelop respect for them the week before they disbanded. they actually started to pvp even when they knew they were going to lose. Something I was trying to tell topjew before i guild disbanded, the guild needs pvp experience win or lose doesnt matter. Will not win velious with gear and levels alone, pvp experience is more important than both.

Azrael VS Nihilum is a perfect example. 3 out of 4 mass pvp fights the past 2 weeks nihilum has outgeared us and had 5-10 more members than azrael yet Nihilum gets shit stomped everytime.

http://puu.sh/7Lv7q.jpg

http://puu.sh/7Lv8l.jpg

[Rellapse36]

Genedin log on and say hi


o wait


banned

lulz

[HippoNipple]

Force was a refreshing guild that made the server interesting for a while. They had some similarities to RD. You can hate all you want but the server was more fun with RD around. It will go down hill unless someone else like HB can step up and put in work again. RD offered a wild card that could swing the tide of a battle in either Azrael or Nihilum's favor. It kept both guilds in check from being complete neck bearded pixel frenzied misfits. Now that it is 1v1 it will get predictable and eventually become a 1 guild server again.

[quido]

Allow me to respond to your inquiry here Tecmos.

Makes sense. Seems like it probably was a bit more complicated than RD simply running from PVP 9 times out of 10 though.

Of course it's a bit more complicated, however the degree to which Red Dawn for a long while avoided PvP was excessive. I can't really blame them for most instances, but I think there were a number of times RD could have benefited from getting some PvP when the cost of a crushing defeat was low. There's something to be said about being willing to bite the bullet and eat a death in the name of putting up a good fight. On red, sometimes you gotta think with your dick instead of your brain and say "fuck it, we're here, let's do this shit" in the face of what is probably almost certain death. You never know how it might turn out, and you and your people might learn a thing or two in the process.


How else is a 3-guild/3-team system going to work? Not trying to troll, I seriously don't understand how else it could possibly work.

While it would be nice to have 3 standalone capable guilds, obviously when one of three guilds is new to the scene, you are likely to see some sort of alliance from the newcomer. I think the problem a lot of us had with the RD/Nihilum alliance is that it further stacked the odds against the standing underdog. Now certain people will say this happened because Azrael/Lite is toxic (a point which I'll address in my next response below), but that is completely ridiculous. I totally understand why it happened - the most people had the most to gain by it happening, but many people failed and still fail to acknowledge what a precarious arrangement such an alliance is. Nobody likes a blowout; you might think you do for a while, but in the end it gets fucking boring. When you join a counter-strike server and there's 12 terrorists and 8 counter-terrorists who are obviously losing, you don't join the damn terrorists. Sure, the most people have the most to gain by further stacking the odds, however, such a situation is fucking stupid. Nihilum has vast reserves of retired people they call on when the competition gets tough (though I think that reserve might be starting to fizzle out) - adding a large chunk of people to the already exceedingly winning team doesn't make for a fun pvp server.


I get the impression that everyone twists words to make the other people look bad. Remember that thread where you posted about someone plugging as if you were gloating, when just the day before you said if someone plugs on you it means YOU'RE the bad player for not killing them before they could plug and that no one cares about plugging?

Again, not trying to troll. I just want to know what's going on.

Every big guild on both servers has a little ministry of propaganda built into them whether they mean to or not. Forumquest and such is part of the game and I of course embrace this facet of our community, however, the degree to which Lite and pals get a bad rap on here from the opposition is inordinate. This is a function merely of serving a purpose and not a truthful representation of reality. Running a guild is a lot of work and responsibility, and it of course comes with some tough decisions. In my time with Lite and pals (I've been 60 on my red monk since October and played red for some time before this) I have been perfectly happy with how everything has gone. Granted it hasn't been perfect (no experience can be), however those of you who know me know I am fast to speak against injustice, and I've never had any real cause to do so in Azrael. Red has a jaded history and much of it I didn't experience directly, but since I've been here, most of what I've seen firsthand is in direct opposition to what I had read and continue to read on these forums from those that would prefer to see a boring pvp server.

[marie]

Here's how "allying" with Nihilum decision came about [aka they give us a mob to not work with Azrael]

I bat phoned RD, we had TS meeting

"hey guys, Azrael split from the guild to do their own thing, Nihilum wants to give us a mob if we don't work with AZ, what do you guys think?"

"Awesome" "fuck AZ "Wow thats great" "Yes"

It was about 95% unison, with the exception of like Badger who left. Anyone who didn't approve of it and kept it to themselves rather than voicing their opinion, and then rage quit over it, I have zero respect for. We had an open discussion, and everyone was free to give their thoughts. But keep pushing that party line dawg.

I dont really feel all that much bad blood between us. I didnt believe in your vision to be political with nihilum. I want to kill them all and take their pixels from them, not share them. Ever since azrael got even numbers with Nihilum, we have been winning every fight and taking every raid mob we wanted. Cant even use the excuse nizzar isnt around things will change etc because he was around when the shit stomping began. Would support your application to azrael if you ever were interested. people need to let the past go and realize people grow and change overtime. Not everybody stays the same forever, i believe in 2nd or even 3 chances.

[HippoNipple]

Quido every 3 team situation is going to end up 2v1. It will never be a royal rumble. It will never be completely evenly matched for 3 different teams. The number 1 and 2 guilds will always gun for each other and the under dog is the wild card that decides what they get out of helping one of the other teams. It is common sense.

[marie]

Quido every 3 team situation is going to end up 2v1. It will never be a royal rumble. It will never be completely evenly matched for 3 different teams. The number 1 and 2 guilds will always gun for each other and the under dog is the wild card that decides what they get out of helping one of the other teams. It is common sense.

lets see sev about a week ago, nihilum v red dawn v azrael.

azrael engaged nihilum during the process red dawn took sev and ported out.

perfect example how you are dead wrong

[heartbrand]

Azrael has no plan for Velious other than to "get giant faction and grief Nihilum".

Protip: You can pull Tormax to zoneline and giant faction is meaningless

I have no interest in being in an officer council guild with people uninterested in slaying dragons in Velious. Sry dawg.

[HippoNipple]

I dont really feel all that much bad blood between us. I didnt believe in your vision to be political with nihilum. I want to kill them all and take their pixels from them, not share them. Ever since azrael got even numbers with Nihilum, we have been winning every fight and taking every raid mob we wanted. Cant even use the excuse nizzar isnt around things will change etc because he was around when the shit stomping began. Would support your application to azrael if you ever were interested. people need to let the past go and realize people grow and change overtime. Not everybody stays the same forever, i believe in 2nd or even 3 chances.

No one is ever going to agree with every decision the leader makes. Did you think HB made decisions that he thought was best for the guild? Do you think he cared about the members success? Do you think he added value with playtime, accounts and pixels to his members? Did he have knowledge of PvE encounters?

Completely inexcusable to complain as much as some ex RD members have about HB leadership with this RD Relaunch. I understand feuds people have with HB personally from past events or guilds but hating on his leadership skills or choices this time around isn't warranted.

It would be very tough for you to pick out one other person on this server that would have done a better job or gone further than HB did with what he had to work with from day one of the Red Dawn relaunch.

[HippoNipple]

lets see sev about a week ago, nihilum v red dawn v azrael.

azrael engaged nihilum during the process red dawn took sev and ported out.

perfect example how you are dead wrong

I was talking about mass pvp. Sniping a raid target is cool but not really what I was referring to.

[quido]

Quido every 3 team situation is going to end up 2v1. It will never be a royal rumble. It will never be completely evenly matched for 3 different teams. The number 1 and 2 guilds will always gun for each other and the under dog is the wild card that decides what they get out of helping one of the other teams. It is common sense.

I can see why you would think that having played here and such, but it doesn't necessarily need to be that way. Also, it doesn't have to be perfectly even a match to still be fun and see victories for both sides. The nature of the game and people playing it introduces enough variability that an even slightly fair fight overall can almost always be interesting. I'd like to see a system where skill and not numbers is the biggest factor contributing to success. 70 vs 25 is fucking stupid.

Things were about fair in numbers between the three of us - where we all differed was in gear and skill. It's not that tough to close the gap for both gear and skill; some people just have no resolve.

[marie]

Azrael has no plan for Velious other than to "get giant faction and grief Nihilum".

Protip: You can pull Tormax to zoneline and giant faction is meaningless

I have no interest in being in an officer council guild with people uninterested in slaying dragons in Velious. Sry dawg.

this goes back to the hearsay thing I was talking about earliar. just because somebody tells you something, doesnt mean its true.

[heartbrand]

Shrug, it takes 55+ people to do things in Velious. Azrael's style doesn't allow it to recruit the new players necessary, with the PVE resolve, to do big things in Velious. That doesn't mean you won't wipe Nihilum on Dragon_01 and post 1000 screenshots of it and get some lulz and fun times. But you won't get the big loots. I'm not saying one playstyle is "better" than the other, I just know I'd prefer to be on the side getting the loot u feel?

[quido]

You really think we're rolling without a plan HB? Don't be a moran. It's a new era for red - everyone is looking towards the future.

[marie]

Shrug, it takes 55+ people to do things in Velious. Azrael's style doesn't allow it to recruit the new players necessary, with the PVE resolve, to do big things in Velious. That doesn't mean you won't wipe Nihilum on Dragon_01 and post 1000 screenshots of it and get some lulz and fun times. But you won't get the big loots. I'm not saying one playstyle is "better" than the other, I just know I'd prefer to be on the side getting the loot u feel?

Yeah I understand completely how you feel and I understand what kind of player you are than most i believe. but I also truly believe azrael will be getting big loots in velious, definitely not all of it, but plenty. I guess time will tell.

[iiNGloriouS]

Azrael's style doesn't allow it to recruit the new players necessary, with the PVE resolve, to do big things in Velious.

Guess our new up and coming members in Uprising (peaking at 25 people on the other day to a low of maybe 6 during primetime) doesn't mean anything. Shout out to Biggy. Sexiest ogre on the box.

[heartbrand]

Uprising will have the same issue all leveling guilds do. People use it to get to 52+ then app Nihilum. Will you lose everyone? No. Would I venture a guess that the majority will app Nihilum either now or the second they see a 100hp/mana 20 to all stat item linked in ooc? Yep.

[freez]

lols hb cheering for nihi already

[heartbrand]

Yes, stating facts is "cheering." So I guess when Az accused RD of feeding nilly that was "cheering" as well?

[freez]

Uprising will have the same issue all leveling guilds do. People use it to get to 52+ then app Nihilum.

you heard it here first pals


this is a fact



luls

[freez]

Azrael has no plan for Velious other than to "get giant faction and grief Nihilum".

is this another one of those facts?

[Rellapse36]

HB pretty much just confirmed all his guild ever was...was a feeder guild

[freez]

yaw


his guild was a feeder guild


theres a fact for ya checkbrizzle

[Rellapse36]

Getting close to that Planar Protector u feels

[Eslade]

Getting close to that Planar Protector u feels

how close?

[Rellapse36]

almost there getting excited

[quido]

almost there getting excited


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVibtTjReu4

[Eslade]

almost there getting excited

would shit my pants from laughing if you got banned at 999.

[Rellapse36]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM4-r4pN1PY

[Pikrib]

Gratz on Planar Protector!

[freez]

ding

[Rellapse36]

awwwwwww yiss

[krazyGlue]

gb is 100% right some members will join nihilum some will stay its just how it works.

[krazyGlue]

hb

[freez]

rallyd pedophile

[Twainz]

Allow me to respond to your inquiry here Tecmos.



Of course it's a bit more complicated, however the degree to which Red Dawn for a long while avoided PvP was excessive. I can't really blame them for most instances, but I think there were a number of times RD could have benefited from getting some PvP when the cost of a crushing defeat was low. There's something to be said about being willing to bite the bullet and eat a death in the name of putting up a good fight. On red, sometimes you gotta think with your dick instead of your brain and say "fuck it, we're here, let's do this shit" in the face of what is probably almost certain death. You never know how it might turn out, and you and your people might learn a thing or two in the process.




While it would be nice to have 3 standalone capable guilds, obviously when one of three guilds is new to the scene, you are likely to see some sort of alliance from the newcomer. I think the problem a lot of us had with the RD/Nihilum alliance is that it further stacked the odds against the standing underdog. Now certain people will say this happened because Azrael/Lite is toxic (a point which I'll address in my next response below), but that is completely ridiculous. I totally understand why it happened - the most people had the most to gain by it happening, but many people failed and still fail to acknowledge what a precarious arrangement such an alliance is. Nobody likes a blowout; you might think you do for a while, but in the end it gets fucking boring. When you join a counter-strike server and there's 12 terrorists and 8 counter-terrorists who are obviously losing, you don't join the damn terrorists. Sure, the most people have the most to gain by further stacking the odds, however, such a situation is fucking stupid. Nihilum has vast reserves of retired people they call on when the competition gets tough (though I think that reserve might be starting to fizzle out) - adding a large chunk of people to the already exceedingly winning team doesn't make for a fun pvp server.




Every big guild on both servers has a little ministry of propaganda built into them whether they mean to or not. Forumquest and such is part of the game and I of course embrace this facet of our community, however, the degree to which Lite and pals get a bad rap on here from the opposition is inordinate. This is a function merely of serving a purpose and not a truthful representation of reality. Running a guild is a lot of work and responsibility, and it of course comes with some tough decisions. In my time with Lite and pals (I've been 60 on my red monk since October and played red for some time before this) I have been perfectly happy with how everything has gone. Granted it hasn't been perfect (no experience can be), however those of you who know me know I am fast to speak against injustice, and I've never had any real cause to do so in Azrael. Red has a jaded history and much of it I didn't experience directly, but since I've been here, most of what I've seen firsthand is in direct opposition to what I had read and continue to read on these forums from those that would prefer to see a boring pvp server.

So you are saying that Lite doesn't box 24/7? And none of the characters on raids/pvp are boxed? Root? Cheesycakes? Basiah? All have 1 person playing them that is not playing a different character at the same time?

[iiNGloriouS]

So you are saying that Lite doesn't box 24/7? And none of the characters on raids/pvp are boxed? Root? Cheesycakes? Basiah? All have 1 person playing them that is not playing a different character at the same time?

http://img.pandawhale.com/72054-he-blows-goats-I-have-proof-gi-xZsA.gif

[krazyGlue]

azrael does not box. sorry twainz but you can keep spilling lies and bullshit all you want 0 fucks given

[freez]

do not respond to twainz untill he picks up his trash (his corpse) from tt arch area


thank u

[Koota]

That's a whole lot of words I didn't read.

[Feniggles]

That's a whole lot of words I didn't read.

[freez]

dats nice fagguts he only wrote it for tecmos




fennigles how about u show face in teh pvp sometime instead of just loggin in sundays to rack up dkp

[RoguePhantom]

I wonder how Andis and Marie decide who gets to suck Lite's dick on which night? I don't even have a problem with Azrael but you guys are fucking pathetic.

[freez]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/ee1dc015f59d7b9c101481dcfdd292ec/tumblr_mlppn1Pxgd1s6zk05o1_r1_500.gif

[quido]

good 1 freez lol

I've been getting these farm fresh eggs - shit is so dank

though I haven't poached any yet

[Twainz]

good 1 freez lol

I've been getting these farm fresh eggs - shit is so dank

though I haven't poached any yet

Nothing to say about Lite's boxing? Thought you were all about voicing things that are wrong? Thank you for showing your dirty whistle Jerome.

[freez]

do not respond to twainz untill he picks up his trash (his corpse) from tt arch area


thank u

[quido]

Nothing to say about Lite's boxing? Thought you were all about voicing things that are wrong? Thank you for showing your dirty whistle Jerome.

If you think you know something I don't you should petition it ya moran

[Not_Kazowi]

Ты все очень глупые мальчики

[Twainz]

If you think you know something I don't you should petition it ya moran

Don't come to the forums and say you haven't witnessed anything wrong in Azrael. Anyone that has been with Azrael can tell you Lite blatantly boxes. You have to be a moran to think everyone doesn't already know that. I'm surprised you would come here and claim to never see anything you hear on the forums.

[krazyGlue]

Twainz is mad about the sow sword . He sold his soul for and never recived

[FaithlessKR]

Don't come to the forums and say you haven't witnessed anything wrong in Azrael. Anyone that has been with Azrael can tell you Lite blatantly boxes. You have to be a moran to think everyone doesn't already know that. I'm surprised you would come here and claim to never see anything you hear on the forums.

Since certain people are no longer in the guild I personally haven't seen a single boxed Azrael toon since my return.

[marie]

Don't come to the forums and say you haven't witnessed anything wrong in Azrael. Anyone that has been with Azrael can tell you Lite blatantly boxes. You have to be a moran to think everyone doesn't already know that. I'm surprised you would come here and claim to never see anything you hear on the forums.

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[Rellapse36]

Lite don't box Twinkie Twainz just mad whichever guild he joins ends up failing

[BigHurb]

its not an idea, its a knowledge of psychology mixed with nerdology .. end of the day though HB is a no one and he knows it... ACCEPT IT

[Not_Kazowi]

So much mad on the forums. Just eq dawgs

[Twainz]

Who cares about . Items on a server that might be wiped

[Rellapse36]

https://www.youtube.com/user/TwainZGaming

[Rellapse36]

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[HippoNipple]

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Not too worried about it.

[LulzSect]

я ничего не знаю

[Not_Kazowi]

Yeah idk what the big deal over sow sword is?

[LulzSect]

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[Rellapse36]

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[Not_Kazowi]

я ничего не знаю

Ты говорят Россий?

[Rellapse36]

Ты говорят Россий?

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[Twainz]

Yeah idk what the big deal over sow sword is?

[quido]

идти ебать себя, хворост

[HippoNipple]

Вы коммунисты трахает будет заплатить за ваши грехи

[Not_Kazowi]

Я не пене маю ???

[Not_Kazowi]

Я не понимаю* autocorrect(

[Fame]

I get the impression that everyone twists words to make the other people look bad.

Full immersion in sight!

[iiNGloriouS]

You fuckers took over my DOTA and now my ForumQuest? THIS IS INEXCUSABLE.

[mtb tripper]

delta dawn

[Humerox]

we left due to decisions made by topjew. sooner you all accept the truth the sooner you can make better decisions on the box. I contacted lite myself and told him I wanted to join.

heartbrand has this idea that he can do no wrong and people will follow him in blind faith. You have to realize old comrade that it was your decisions as a guild leader that led to the demise of your guild. I'll give you a few pointers so if you decide to make red dawn 3.0 you will have a better chance at survival.

-trying to evade pvp 90-95% of the time is going to make you lose members
-trying to be a snake allying temporarily with 1 faction to zerg another faction for pixel self gain will make you lose members.
-twisting words to make lite or anybody look bad because you have a personal quarrel prob wont make you lose any members but will reflect negatively on your image as leader.

having access to azrael forums and red dawn forums i had the opportunity to see some serious word twisting by topjew and i could understand to a degree since he was a guild leader and had an image to uphold but at the same time made me sick to my stomach.

I've been in just about every guild on the box and azrael for roughly 2 weeks now and I'll say there aren't any toxic people in this guild.

Don't listen to hearsay to determine how you feel about another person or player. So many people say Lite is toxic etc but since ive been in azrael I see nothing of the sort. People like tibberz do not belong in Nihilum and I bet they would have so much fun in azrael and should really give it a chance.

The past two weeks in azrael has gotten me as close as possible to the feeling I felt playing on this box the first month it was released. All you vets know what feeling im talking about, the first 4 weeks of p99 red was when it was really alive. back in the 600 pop, It will never be what it was, but with this crew I'm having about as much fun as I did that first month of the server

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What? Seriously? lol...

Red Dawn was actually doing fine until the XP nerf. That - and only that - killed it. RD didn't evade much PvP at all.. We lost a lot of times as undergeared patchwork/bronze wearing sub 55's tho. The political game HB was trying to play was pretty smart given what he had to work with.

RD COULD have eventually been a factor. Then the XP nerf hit and people didn't want to spend most of the next 3-4 months getting 55-60 and being griefed all the way through. RD couldn't compete with either Nihilum or Azrael toe-to-toe. So people stopped logging in. Leveling groups vanished.

In any case RD is dead. It's simply AZ and Nihi now...and will be for a long time unless one of those two implode. But here's a clue. Nihi doesn't mind a bit not having competition. AZ on the other hand would go full range lunatic if there wasn't anybody to PVP. Nihi also goes full range lunatic when they consistently lose. With RD gone I'd say the power shift goes to AZ.

So. Nihi will fold because they're going to constantly get their ass kicked by AZ. AZ will then quit because there will be no one to PvP. Nihi will come back because AZ quit. AZ will come back because Nihi quit.

Rinse and repeat.

[Humerox]

AZ will come back Because Nihi came back. F no edit.

[Etorryn]

azrael for roughly 2 weeks


You're being quite long winded, for someone not being around 99% of the time azael was trying to contest.

[iiNGloriouS]

RD didn't evade much PvP at all...

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[Exed]

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el oh el'd

[Buhbuh]

Jibeknn calling me selfish was the highlight for me.

[Smedy]

stop arguing kids, its time to ally up and fight nihilum , the true dark evil that put the server in this shit hole to begin with

[Squire]

stop arguing kids, its time to ally up and fight nihilum , the true dark evil that put the server in this shit hole to begin with