Pantheon

[Kergan]

Because an adult with a reasonable income doesn't give a flying shit about a couple hundred bucks? I spent that on stupid Hearthstone packs. Time > Money u dig?

[r00t]

so I guess the only reason this wasnt embezzlement is because the donations link on the pantheon website goes to brad's personal bank account as tax-free gifts instead of to the corporate entity "visionary realms"

[Millburn]

That's a whole other level of retarded I hadn't anticipated.

[Beastro]

People actually donated to that kickstarter because they gave a shit about Pantheon? I just wanted guise/fungi staff nameen?

It's not just that.

After a few articles finally popped up on mainstream MMO websites a couple days ago describing Brad pocketing $45k of the kickstarter money the website actually experiences a jump in donations.

As fucking sad as it is, bad news literally better than no news at all.....

[Kergan]

I did not donate to the non-kickstarter/website based funding. Mostly because I just wanted shit on P99 to begin with, but also because one of the self-confessed "screw ups" Brad mentioned was not using a website that allowed them to keep the money even if the goal wasn't met. After 20+ years in game design including multiple AAA releases and forming your own company how can you not understand how much it takes to make a video game? Even Brad isn't that dumb. So if your goal is set at 800k, that's what you think its gonna take. Pocketing half that knowing you can't make the game with the funds you have is just a big scam. Clearly the guy had some personal issues and needed cash, which is why he took almost 40% of their funds and gave it to himself. Not the kinda guy I'd trust with my money.

[heartbrand]

cuz wuts the big deal about droppin 1k when ur makin 7 figure?

[Colgate]

i would imagine if i wanted to donate $1k it certainly wouldnt be going to brad mcquaid

[Kergan]

Donated to my guise of the deceiver fund.

[Sektor]

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/50512_19627374720_3942_n.jpg

LOL

[Ahldagor]

so I guess the only reason this wasnt embezzlement is because the donations link on the pantheon website goes to brad's personal bank account as tax-free gifts instead of to the corporate entity "visionary realms"

so does that mean that kickstarter could be used to launder money?

[r00t]

That's basically one of the methods they used in Breaking Bad to launder money.....

[Ahldagor]

That's basically one of the methods they used in Breaking Bad to launder money.....

just recall the car wash

[r00t]

His sons website

[Ahldagor]

His sons website

http://www.savewalterwhite.com/
?

[rogoshen]

http://www.savewalterwhite.com/
?

haha what the hell?

[Ahldagor]

amc owns it

[thefloydian]

I wonder why Sirken hasn't sent this to RnF yet. :confused:

[GreenRanger]

Recent 8 minute interview w/ Salim Grant on the subject
http://173.193.205.96:2197/ondemand/ktamradio/Salim%20on%20K-TAM%27s%20Aftermath%20Monday%20May%205th%202014.mp 3

"we dont want people duped cuz we have been duped. we got stepped on"
"we dont care if pantheon is success"

[GreenRanger]

double post double nizzar

[LostCause]

kickstarter for opiates

[Circa.]

i honestly cannot believe that anyone donated to it at all for any reason whatsoever

that RMT though! You could win guise and prenerf fungi!

[Eslade]

telling you right now, the kickstarter wasn't for the money really as much as publicity. What they wanted to do was get paid for the prototype of the game that they already had. after the kickstarter they were probably going to shop the build around to publishers willing to give them money to finish the game. the people that weren't tricked into working for free would already have their money and the guys waiting for sweat equity would get precisely dick.

tldr
nobody but the company owners knew that the game wasn't going to make it past alpha. this was a cash grab aimed at a bigger cash grab.

[Circa.]

Gotta love that RMT, hey donate and you could possibly win a prenerf guise and a prenerf fungi staff lmao what a fucking joke.

[Millburn]

Recent 8 minute interview w/ Salim Grant on the subject
http://173.193.205.96:2197/ondemand/ktamradio/Salim%20on%20K-TAM%27s%20Aftermath%20Monday%20May%205th%202014.mp 3

"we dont want people duped cuz we have been duped. we got stepped on"
"we dont care if pantheon is success"

Does anybody know his skype? I would be willing to add him and document all of this just to help get the information out there. That was an interesting interview, very eye opening.

[SamwiseRed]

yikes

[Kergan]

Yeah, not like games get made solely off a kickstarter or anything.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/

[Eslade]

Yeah, not like games get made solely off a kickstarter or anything.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/

If that's an mmo I'll be impressed. They usually cost over 50 million to develop.

[Kergan]

You haven't heard of Star Citizen? It's broken every crowdsource funding record by a mile (regardless of product). They're sitting at over 43 million in funding at this point, and have over 200 developers working on it.

It is a space based MMO, done by Chris Roberts who did the Wing Commander games. Basically a Wing Commander Privateer MMO with modern tech. It is going to be amazing.

[Kergan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyQU-AfAgno

Check this out and if you don't become erect there is something wrong with you.

[Eslade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyQU-AfAgno

Check this out and if you don't become erect there is something wrong with you.

not clicking the links, but if they only have 43 million that means that either some people worked for free, a lot of people are getting paid shit or they already have/had someone funding the project and kickstarter was used to get the word out. I'd like to see where the money is coming from and is going.

[r00t]

vaporware

[Doors]

NAEZ

[Ahldagor]

Recent 8 minute interview w/ Salim Grant on the subject
http://173.193.205.96:2197/ondemand/ktamradio/Salim%20on%20K-TAM%27s%20Aftermath%20Monday%20May%205th%202014.mp 3

"we dont want people duped cuz we have been duped. we got stepped on"
"we dont care if pantheon is success"

mr. brad owe money to a loan shark? that's messed up what he did

[Rettj]

I rmtd for a guise/fungistaff/vip forum group

[JayN]

bump never trust no crack heads

[Stabulous]

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/412151/page/1

[no chewie dont]

breaking news that we haven't read half a dozen times in half a dozen threads this week

[Stabulous]

breaking news that we haven't read half a dozen times in half a dozen threads this week

I knew some turd would come in here to tell me it's been posted already, thanks for not letting me down.

[no chewie dont]

hey at least you're trying

[moklianne]

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/412151/page/1

You can't pad your post count in RnF...

[JayN]

Brad is a piece of shit junkie

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

More of this, please.

I have never understood why anybody wants anything else other than EverQuest, (and specifically p99 EQ).

The perfect game -- time-capsuled in its prime -- exists here at p99. Why play anything else?

Any time spent discussing Pantheon is time not spent playing p99. I suggest only discussing Pantheon while at-work and unable to play p99.

At this point, this whole project seems like a really bad car accident on the other side of the highway. I admit, it's hard not to look, but soon the fire and smoke will be in the rear view mirror.

p99 for life yall

Just discovered this gem!

Fucking love GG

[Paleman]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/identikit/BradsCrackParty_zpsf6ef647b.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/identikit/media/BradsCrackParty_zpsf6ef647b.jpg.html)

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[GreenRanger]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/identikit/BradsCrackParty_zpsf6ef647b.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/identikit/media/BradsCrackParty_zpsf6ef647b.jpg.html)

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dat OC A+ BANG UP Job