Chardok AoE questions

[Jauna]

-How good is the exp for a level 54 Hybrid?
-How does loot work?
-Who do I contact to get into one of these?

Again, im mainly concerned on how much exp a level 54 Bard would get if anyone has any personal exp with this.

[Erati]

just watch EC forums for threads that say "WTS Chardok Proxy NOW" or just show up to Chardok and wait til a Proxy spot is avail

Dont think bards get into these groups tho, you would have to pay plats for exp

[Raavak]

The group consists of a cleric with 2 DA's, 2-3 enchanters with aoe stuns, and 2-3 aoe dps preferably wizards, and a non-kos fd puller. Ever other class basically would be proxy'd in.

[Lyrith]

You do a /who all chardok

ask random name, "Who has the list?"

Send tell to list keeper and ask to be on proxy spot.

Or just go to the zone and stand there looking dumb wanting to be proxy, you will have to pay for your spot or ask a friend to help you out as you are not needed for the group.

The exp is the best in the game, this is why it is camped almost 24/7 and pulls usually cost 2-3k each as a proxy. You can expect to see as much as 20% a pull, more like 10% in a hell level give and take the makeup of the group.

[freez]

yikes sounds like fun

[tristantio]

How does being the puller work? Just go in as deep as possible as a non-kos puller, agro something and run back to the zone? Will they not social agro until the engaged mob runs past?

[Daldaen]

Necro or SK goes in, parks pet at a mob, pet guards, heads back toward entrance, pet attacks, get aggro on mob and pet dies, cleric heals puller and gets aggro, pet class FDs or gates outside if Mage, cleric DAs, enchanters stun, cleric DAs second time, chanters keep stunning, AE nuke mobs dead.

Something like that. I'm sure there are a few more intracicacies to it, but that's the jist.

I'd imagine you could use a Necro, SK, Mage, Shaman for the pull using a pet and FDing or gating out after you get healed by cler.

[eqpower]

Yop,

Im new here so it will be long before i can go in AE group but in my old server ppl usually do AE group at sebilis.

Just wanted to know if ppl do only chardok or sometimes sebilis, who was really sad on xp and fun. :D

[Lyrith]

How does being the puller work? Just go in as deep as possible as a non-kos puller, agro something and run back to the zone? Will they not social agro until the engaged mob runs past?

Get that faction in Droga, after that just simply run along a puller and watch.

Nothing is SUPER SECRET about Chardok AoE, plus everyone there usually wants more pullers. Puller list is typically the smallest so pullers are stuck playing for long grinds at a time.

[Supaskillz]

The exp is the best in the game, this is why it is camped almost 24/7 and pulls usually cost 2-3k each as a proxy. You can expect to see as much as 20% a pull, more like 10% in a hell level give and take the makeup of the group.

The funny part is that the first year or two of kunark it was never camped. Remember when skyfire ae groups were all the rage?

[Swish]

While on the subject, I used to camp the Chardok zone in (or outside that castle between zone in/zone out) with an enchanter...as a cleric.

If I set up with someone else down there and an AE group comes in looking to start, can I petition if they say "we're going to pull through you" ? :p

[Lyrith]

The funny part is that the first year or two of kunark it was never camped. Remember when skyfire ae groups were all the rage?

I do recall this, very well! Wish I would have got in on some of that action. =D

[tristantio]

I saw a 54 necro pulling in there, so I assume if I faction up in Droga I can probably go as a puller as a 56 necro (assuming they'd want me on list).

Since I can still gain XP while in FD, I take it that I'd just FD and collect the XP as they slaughter the pack?

[mrmop520]

Necro or SK goes in, parks pet at a mob, pet guards, heads back toward entrance, pet attacks, get aggro on mob and pet dies, cleric heals puller and gets aggro, pet class FDs or gates outside if Mage, cleric DAs, enchanters stun, cleric DAs second time, chanters keep stunning, AE nuke mobs dead.

Something like that. I'm sure there are a few more intracicacies to it, but that's the jist.

I'd imagine you could use a Necro, SK, Mage, Shaman for the pull using a pet and FDing or gating out after you get healed by cler.

Mages work excellently. Also a good puller uses 2, preferably 3 pets to get a proper sized pull.

[Lyrith]

I saw a 54 necro pulling in there, so I assume if I faction up in Droga I can probably go as a puller as a 56 necro (assuming they'd want me on list).

Since I can still gain XP while in FD, I take it that I'd just FD and collect the XP as they slaughter the pack?

Correct, a Puller really could be level 49+, The faction is going to be your hard part. And the group woud LOVE a DE/Necro puller over per say a ISKAR/SK, SK, ISKAR/Necro etc... Those groups all care about the exp and you will be helping that part out.

Get your faction and enjoy the easy ride to 60. Will only take you about 2 days if you have good playtime.

[Lyrith]

Mages work excellently. Also a good puller uses 2, preferably 3 pets to get a proper sized pull.

Not sure how this part works, but I do know if your group is good and can handle the bigger pulls it requires you to do the 2-3 pet method.

Simply get your faction up and run with the puller and learn all of this.

[Raavak]

Learn where they park there pet and start the train. There's more than one spot used, depending on the size of the pull and whatnot. There's got to be some little tricks you learn in order to get all the mobs, like the betrayer phers and stuff.

[bomaroast]

Its the most ridiculous, bureaucratic waste of energy and life ever. If you want to see the people most in love with pixels, go to chardok. The life havers and enjoyers of the actual game are elsewhere.

In a chardok ae group, you'll get a few minutes of pulling then 5 minutes staring at the wall casting the same couple spells over and over. Then 20 minutes of afk. During this time no one is interested in communicating or even dealing with the bureaucracy and logistics of the situation until a moment before the pull begins. A haptic money grab. The absurdity of the no-lifers put into plain view.

It made sense why this was happening when RMT was a thing. Now its just super sad.

[fadetree]

For some reason, people just want to get to 60. Why? I dunno. Once you hit 60 some of the draw of the game decays for me, and I'd probably start an alt. But if its what they want, fine. I don't see where denigrating them is of any use.

[Raavak]

Everyone plays the game for their own reason. Who are you to judge?

[HeallunRumblebelly]

If you're going to pull, be bound outside. If that means your broke ass lvl 40 monk needs to use a locket of escape, find one. Ridiculous having to wait on run backs or having to log on a necro for that shit <_<

[tristantio]

Well, me personally, I want to hit 57 for the ability to summon anyone via stackable coffins (the non-stackable bag sized ones make it so hard to go around and help with corpse summons).

At that point, I want to get 59 so I can pull out a spectre pet (and use it to help farm gear to give out).

Reducing the time I grind on dark blues by doing something like pulling in Chardok would help me in both of those goals (other option is to group for XP, but due to random interruptions, that is harder and the main reason I went nec)

[tristantio]

If you're going to pull, be bound outside. If that means your broke ass lvl 40 monk needs to use a locket of escape, find one. Ridiculous having to wait on run backs or having to log on a necro for that shit <_<

Is that when there isn't another necro parked inside to summon corpses?

Personally I'm TD bound and wouldn't give it up even for Chardok pulling (just too convenient/rare to have on an iksar necro)

[Lyrith]

Well, me personally, I want to hit 57 for the ability to summon anyone via stackable coffins (the non-stackable bag sized ones make it so hard to go around and help with corpse summons).

At that point, I want to get 59 so I can pull out a spectre pet (and use it to help farm gear to give out).

Reducing the time I grind on dark blues by doing something like pulling in Chardok would help me in both of those goals (other option is to group for XP, but due to random interruptions, that is harder and the main reason I went nec)

Don't let the ney sayers get to you. You are in the same boat I was, hard to be dedicated to a group while playing on the 2nd monitor while working. Hard to be in a group due to RL actually being taken care of. Dishes/Laundry/Kid/Wife/Etc. This is a great way to get some of the best experience the game and still have a life.

Have fun grinding up an alt in Velious when it comes out, get a main to 60 now to farm shiz.

[Morlaeth]

Correct, a Puller really could be level 49+, The faction is going to be your hard part. And the group woud LOVE a DE/Necro puller over per say a ISKAR/SK, SK, ISKAR/Necro etc... Those groups all care about the exp and you will be helping that part out.

Get your faction and enjoy the easy ride to 60. Will only take you about 2 days if you have good playtime.

Racial penalties aren't shared with the group, only class penalties.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Is that when there isn't another necro parked inside to summon corpses?

Personally I'm TD bound and wouldn't give it up even for Chardok pulling (just too convenient/rare to have on an iksar necro)

You'd need to be in zone to summon the corpse. It's about being able to walk back in and grab your corpse, really. Heallun was firepot bound a few months ago but finally gave it up because it's really just not conducive to raiding and will be even less so in velious.

Best bet is if you're going to be a factioned puller and don't want to locket is to have a second factioned character to consent and swap to for the drag. Takes less than a day of droga AOE to hit dubious in chardok.

[Swish]

While on the subject, I used to camp the Chardok zone in (or outside that castle between zone in/zone out) with an enchanter...as a cleric.

If I set up with someone else down there and an AE group comes in looking to start, can I petition if they say "we're going to pull through you" ? :p

Was that an awkward question? Or do AE groups literally run 24/7?

[Rararboker]

Lol I always laugh when people equate the chardok groups to nolifers. I went from 56 to 60 in like 2 weeks going there on and off. Left me plenty of time to do other stuff like shave and shower. Can't say the same for people who are going to spend 40 hours a week for a month or two to do the same thing elsewhere.

Plus, being level 60 is super fun, I don't know what game you guys are playing to say otherwise. Maybe you forgot how fun it can be? I've made alts and I always end up back on my lvl 60 doing stuff with the guild or making player run quest for people to participate in.

[Nightbear]

At 60 the game just begins :).

[Swish]

Lol I always laugh when people equate the chardok groups to nolifers. I went from 56 to 60 in like 2 weeks going there on and off. Left me plenty of time to do other stuff like shave and shower. Can't say the same for people who are going to spend 40 hours a week for a month or two to do the same thing elsewhere.

Didn't want that classic 1-60 leveling experience huh? :rolleyes:

[sox7d]

For some reason, people just want to get to 60. Why? I dunno. Once you hit 60 some of the draw of the game decays for me, and I'd probably start an alt. But if its what they want, fine. I don't see where denigrating them is of any use.

I'm trying to get to 60 so I don't have to play this game anymore. I am literally a prisoner of it. Same shit happened to me with cookie clicker. I just want release...

[sox7d]

Was that an awkward question? Or do AE groups literally run 24/7?

... I spend 6 hours yesterday looking for 3 enchanters to get it going with people coming in and out, tracking proxies and waiting lists on an excel spreadsheet... the one time I finally get in this week and on my day off and we're short. FML.

They usually run from 8 AM to 1-2AM PST from my experience.

[Lyrith]

They usually run from 8 AM to 1-2AM PST from my experience.

This sounds about dead on... Sometimes it can take til 10-11AM CST if having trouble finding the chanters...

[drktmplr12]

I'm trying to get to 60 so I don't have to play this game anymore. I am literally a prisoner of it. Same shit happened to me with cookie clicker. I just want release...

i am now a prisoner to cookie clicker.

thanks.

[Raavak]

Don't let the ney sayers get to you.Yeah, play the game the way you want to. Don't let the Nazi wannabes try to make you conform to their definition of things. They have no power here. You are free to do as you wish, for any reason. Within bounds of PnP of course.

[freez]

meanwhile in reds chardok

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147452

[sox7d]

i am now a prisoner to cookie clicker.

thanks.

You got a lot of nights of leaving your computer on ahead of you, waking up with more excitement you haven't felt since christmas morning when you were 7. Luckily, the cookie clicker curse is lifted within a week or two.

[raptorak]

I would like to do the AOE group but I'm 54 (enchanter). When can I start? :)

[Malone88]

I would like to do the AOE group but I'm 54 (enchanter). When can I start? :)
Level 57 is probably the earliest. You have the three stun spells, but even at level 57 you will get a lot of resists, which could cause a wipe. Level 60 is the
best obviously, because of fewest resists.

And for those who think its boring, chain stunning 120 mobs is quite a rush and it feels great to kill all those mobs without a death. Don't think the puller, cleric, and nukers are bored either when the pull starts...

[sanforce]

They probably won't take a 57 if the group has access to a higher level enchanter. I personally only like 59+ enchanters~

[nilzark]

... I spend 6 hours yesterday looking for 3 enchanters to get it going with people coming in and out, tracking proxies and waiting lists on an excel spreadsheet... the one time I finally get in this week and on my day off and we're short. FML.

They usually run from 8 AM to 1-2AM PST from my experience.

This is what I am talking about. Holy Shit. DEDICATION.