View Full Version : LGBT on Red server?
RogueRZ
04-29-2014, 11:59 PM
Serious thread. I'm wary of making the switch to red because of your community's reputation as being "toxic" and hateful. Old PvP player here, and I've been looking for a reason to make the switch for some time. Ran the GM event tonight and got a ring, and with the effort the GMs are putting in now it seems like a good time to get into things as melee.
Mostly I'm concerned about the top guilds, as I intend to level and then get right on with the endgame progression. Just how bigoted are you? Be honest. I have a pretty thick skin but even so it's not terribly fun playing with people that take issue with who you are. I'm mtf transsexual.
A while back I was watching a twitch stream of some red player's. I think his name was Bestow, iksar shaman leveling at the time. The people he was voice chatting with got into a conversation about trans people, and someone was going on about how they're crazy and how he could never respect a person that acted in such a way. What guild is Bestow and his friends in, does anyone know? Please share.
Yep. So. Could I find a home here, or should I keep on with my blue characters and continue missing out on that sweet pvp? Saw tonight there's still a fair amount of "faggot" and "******" being thrown about in chat, but it's to be expected anywhere on the internet in some instances. Is that the norm here in guildchat? Would you talk shit about a person's sexual orientation or what have you in any serious way?
Littlegyno 11.0
04-30-2014, 12:00 AM
aww yiss.
Colgate
04-30-2014, 12:03 AM
did not read
When you make friends here, all you worries will be gone.
And you'll make some friends...
Just realize a post like this, with this community, is gonna get trolled. Besides that.. in game, most people are human.
RogueRZ
04-30-2014, 12:30 AM
most people are human.
And the rest??
Magikarp
04-30-2014, 12:32 AM
at some point the people who play red are the same kind of folk who play blue
as much as they like to think theyre not
Derubael
04-30-2014, 12:34 AM
Serious thread. I'm wary of making the switch to red because of your community's reputation as being "toxic" and hateful. Old PvP player here, and I've been looking for a reason to make the switch for some time. Ran the GM event tonight and got a ring, and with the effort the GMs are putting in now it seems like a good time to get into things as melee.
Mostly I'm concerned about the top guilds, as I intend to level and then get right on with the endgame progression. Just how bigoted are you? Be honest. I have a pretty thick skin but even so it's not terribly fun playing with people that take issue with who you are. I'm mtf transsexual.
A while back I was watching a twitch stream of some red player's. I think his name was Bestow, iksar shaman leveling at the time. The people he was voice chatting with got into a conversation about trans people, and someone was going on about how they're crazy and how he could never respect a person that acted in such a way. What guild is Bestow and his friends in, does anyone know? Please share.
Yep. So. Could I find a home here, or should I keep on with my blue characters and continue missing out on that sweet pvp? Saw tonight there's still a fair amount of "faggot" and "******" being thrown about in chat, but it's to be expected anywhere on the internet in some instances. Is that the norm here in guildchat? Would you talk shit about a person's sexual orientation or what have you in any serious way?
I very much doubt anyone is going to actually give you shit for being gay. I'm sure you'll hear 'fag' tossed around a lot, but that's really meant as more of a generic insult than a gay-slur these days. Like many words throughout history, it's use and application has evolved greatly from it's previous definitions (of which there have been many). We're still against it's use in public channels and here on the forum in a derogatory manner, but small-scale or guild chats aren't really policed.
Basically the chances of you actually getting legitimately harassed about being gay are slim, and would very likely be a violation of our sexual harassment policy to boot, but you'll probably hear the word 'fag' a lot in either of the high-end raiding guilds. I very much doubt this is different than on blue, though. people toss the word around there all the time as well, so it's really up to you :)
If you decide to give it a shot, then welcome to the server!
Pitborn
04-30-2014, 12:35 AM
And the rest??
The rest are in Nihilum.
And the rest??
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-62yUKL6lj4c/TW5ymAbrFlI/AAAAAAAAAc0/l770_Ydn_4k/s1600/Gamer+in+basement.jpg
RogueRZ
04-30-2014, 12:36 AM
I very much doubt anyone is going to actually give you shit for being gay. I'm sure you'll hear 'fag' tossed around a lot, but that's really meant as more of a generic insult than a gay-slur these days. Like many words throughout history, it's use and application has evolved greatly from it's previous definitions (of which there have been many). We're still against it's use in public channels and here on the forum in a derogatory manner, but small-scale or guild chats aren't really policed.
Basically the chances of you actually getting legitimately harassed about being gay are slim, and would very likely be a violation of our sexual harassment policy to boot, but you'll probably hear the word 'fag' a lot in either of the high-end raiding guilds. I very much doubt this is different than on blue, though. people toss the word around there all the time as well, so it's really up to you :)
If you decide to give it a shot, then welcome to the server!
Thanks Derubael. I was hoping a GM might have something to say.
Littlegyno 11.0
04-30-2014, 12:36 AM
pretty sure 50% of this server is homosexual pal. you're in good company.
red99 is a place of tolerance and acceptance.
I can tell you this, both the top guilds have their fair share of sociopaths..
Will be nice when a good guild for the server steps up to the plate, 'naw mean?
Potus
04-30-2014, 12:43 AM
Serious thread. I'm wary of making the switch to red because of your community's reputation as being "toxic" and hateful. Old PvP player here, and I've been looking for a reason to make the switch for some time. Ran the GM event tonight and got a ring, and with the effort the GMs are putting in now it seems like a good time to get into things as melee.
Mostly I'm concerned about the top guilds, as I intend to level and then get right on with the endgame progression. Just how bigoted are you? Be honest. I have a pretty thick skin but even so it's not terribly fun playing with people that take issue with who you are. I'm mtf transsexual.
A while back I was watching a twitch stream of some red player's. I think his name was Bestow, iksar shaman leveling at the time. The people he was voice chatting with got into a conversation about trans people, and someone was going on about how they're crazy and how he could never respect a person that acted in such a way. What guild is Bestow and his friends in, does anyone know? Please share.
Yep. So. Could I find a home here, or should I keep on with my blue characters and continue missing out on that sweet pvp? Saw tonight there's still a fair amount of "faggot" and "******" being thrown about in chat, but it's to be expected anywhere on the internet in some instances. Is that the norm here in guildchat? Would you talk shit about a person's sexual orientation or what have you in any serious way?
I usually call out people for using those slurs in OOC because I realize they're really quite ignorant and stupid to say. Sometimes you run into people ironically saying it, but in general it's a minority of the population that openly is bigoted, heteronormative, homophobic, and racist.
I don't think you'd be discriminated here, especially if you like killing said people because most of the time they're people the server does not care for at all.
EDIT: Also Flowers of Happiness is the #1 Undisputed PVP guild taht is also super gay. Did you know that Fansy was a homosexual? 10 out of 10 evils on Sullon Zek said so.
RogueRZ
04-30-2014, 12:46 AM
All I'm really afraid of is wasting my time. If I make it to endgame and run into bullshit drama over this and end up quitting I'm gonna be somewhat pissed.
Maybe you're all really cool and it won't matter. That's my hope.
RogueRZ
04-30-2014, 12:47 AM
I usually call out people for using those slurs in OOC because I realize they're really quite ignorant and stupid to say. Sometimes you run into people ironically saying it, but in general it's a minority of the population that openly is bigoted, heteronormative, homophobic, and racist.
I don't think you'd be discriminated here, especially if you like killing said people because most of the time they're people the server does not care for at all.
EDIT: Also Flowers of Happiness is the #1 Undisputed PVP guild taht is also super gay. Did you know that Fansy was a homosexual? 10 out of 10 evils on Sullon Zek said so.
Lol, thank you. Depending how the rest of this thread goes I'll keep logging in and playing.
phacemeltar
04-30-2014, 12:51 AM
I had typed out a really long response but since it mostly pertained to blue, I deleted it. Long story short, theres alot of filthy humans on the internet, so i think youre bound to run into a few. Use the friends list! If you can find a serious guild of good people on red, I would be interested to know about it.
Genedin
04-30-2014, 12:52 AM
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-62yUKL6lj4c/TW5ymAbrFlI/AAAAAAAAAc0/l770_Ydn_4k/s1600/Gamer+in+basement.jpg
something about the picture makes me sad and introspective
Genedin
04-30-2014, 12:56 AM
People here don't care if you are gay or black or white or jewish or yellow or short or have a lisp or are fat or are about to go to county lockup for a year. They are going to pick on you and talk shit and make you cry if they get the chance because that's what a pvp server is about. End of story. Buck up and join the fray or don't bother, but not a single person will want to hear you cry.
Recycled Children
04-30-2014, 01:00 AM
Hey! You're referring to my stream (Cult is my shaman, Bestow is the guy who was duoing with me.) We hang out on on the P99 Mumble and have 2 gay guys that hang out consistently and a transgender that comes on every so often. We use some rough language but I assure it's never out of disrespect to anyone it's all in jest. You're welcome to come hang out we're friendly and open to everyone.
I am Cult (shaman), Floozy (wizard) and Narcotics (monk) in game.
I had typed out a really long response but since it mostly pertained to blue, I deleted it. Long story short, theres alot of filthy humans on the internet, so i think youre bound to run into a few. Use the friends list! If you can find a serious guild of good people on red, I would be interested to know about it.
where is your beautiful sig
phacemeltar
04-30-2014, 01:05 AM
where is your beautiful sig
had to scale it down
Something'Witty
04-30-2014, 01:36 AM
I can tell you this, both the top guilds have their fair share of sociopaths..
Will be nice when a good guild for the server steps up to the plate, 'naw mean?
In all seriousness, I totally agree.
daasgoot
04-30-2014, 02:15 AM
so serious
Jenni D
04-30-2014, 02:20 AM
You might see some terms being casually thrown about in ooc or gu, not so much in ooc once its use is limited, and unless you plan to advertise to everyone in game that you are transsexual surely nobody will direct any abuse at you? Shrug
BigHurb
04-30-2014, 02:48 AM
lol who is this, Ironlion is op or what
bestow is in game friends with no less than two cock lovers. myself included.
floozy IS a cock but thats a diff story.
Recycled Children
04-30-2014, 02:56 AM
lol who is this, Ironlion is op or what
bestow is in game friends with no less than two cock lovers. myself included.
floozy IS a cock but thats a diff story.
I doubt it's ilz. Punctuation and spelling are intact also doesn't contain any broken English.
Smedy
04-30-2014, 03:11 AM
Not sure why admitting to being gay has anything to do with this server or community, since you did admit expect to have people use it against you.
I have nothing against gays but to attention whore around being gay then expect to not have that shit used against you isn't a good idea. We don't discriminate against anyone, everyone is treated equally and by equally i mean everyones treated like shit.
Welcome to red99, pras
BigHurb
04-30-2014, 03:28 AM
bestow must've pissed someone off rustlemania style. :eek:
Littlegyno 11.0
04-30-2014, 03:33 AM
We don't discriminate against anyone, everyone is treated equally and by equally i mean everyones treated like shit.
Welcome to red99, pras
truth. ur all f****ts
RogueRZ
04-30-2014, 04:44 AM
No mad here. Some innocent questions is all.
Thank you, everyone. If you don't make a big deal about it then neither will I.
You might see some terms being casually thrown about in ooc or gu, not so much in ooc once its use is limited, and unless you plan to advertise to everyone in game that you are transsexual surely nobody will direct any abuse at you? Shrug
Yeah. There have been some entirely weird situations in other games. I have this problem where men fall in love with me when we MMO together. Honesty is the best measure lol.
See you in game!
thugcruncher
04-30-2014, 06:29 AM
A while back I was watching a twitch stream of some red player's. I think his name was Bestow, iksar shaman leveling at the time. The people he was voice chatting with got into a conversation about trans people, and someone was going on about how they're crazy and how he could never respect a person that acted in such a way. What guild is Bestow and his friends in, does anyone know? Please share.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9SVwY8C1wpU/TtBdNcXb5rI/AAAAAAAAABM/MaXmvjvgeEE/s1600/StudentRaisingHand.gif
Wanyo
04-30-2014, 08:59 AM
Too long.. Didn't read
Zalaerian
04-30-2014, 09:26 AM
Like smedy said, everyone is treated like shit. Your ability to have a thick skin and laugh it off will determine your tenure here. Half this game is trying to get under your oppositions skin. I wish you the best of luck
Azure
04-30-2014, 09:38 AM
imo i've only had biggoted in game tells from 2 players. obvs if your out on the boards people will troll u in RnF because this community is dumb, but they'd troll u for having kids or being a PhD too.
no chewie dont
04-30-2014, 09:39 AM
I doubt it's ilz. Punctuation and spelling are intact also doesn't contain any broken English.
this is how i always evaluate all new players
can tell who its not pretty quickly haha
Quiet
04-30-2014, 09:42 AM
Just another person seeking attention. Donald Sterling - "Be as gay as you want, don't fucking advertise it"
tekniq
04-30-2014, 09:58 AM
OP, your best bet is to just experience the community in game. Forums aren't the place to ask about how the server is as the trolls dwell here who claim to be 'ambassador's of the actual box.
I'd say about 85% of the box are pretty cool, 50% don't even use forums, and at least 15% are sociopaths that dwell on the forums and half of them only just forumquest.
SamwiseRed
04-30-2014, 10:05 AM
dont ask dont tell.
Nirgon
04-30-2014, 10:11 AM
If you are a skilled player from RZ you will find many EQ Emu fast xp server clowns to ravage.
Don't worry about losing gear either just get full diamond and blindly charge people with no fear of loss. Works great on xp groups.
Item loot now, item loot tomorrow, item loot forever.
Elspeth
04-30-2014, 10:25 AM
dont ask, dont tell
Lojik
04-30-2014, 12:58 PM
All I'm really afraid of is wasting my time. If I make it to endgame and run into bullshit drama over this and end up quitting I'm gonna be somewhat pissed.
Maybe you're all really cool and it won't matter. That's my hope.
Dude that's pretty much the definition of everquest.
Not_Kazowi
04-30-2014, 01:25 PM
Serious thread. I'm wary of making the switch to red because of your community's reputation as being "toxic" and hateful. Old PvP player here, and I've been looking for a reason to make the switch for some time. Ran the GM event tonight and got a ring, and with the effort the GMs are putting in now it seems like a good time to get into things as melee.
Mostly I'm concerned about the top guilds, as I intend to level and then get right on with the endgame progression. Just how bigoted are you? Be honest. I have a pretty thick skin but even so it's not terribly fun playing with people that take issue with who you are. I'm mtf transsexual.
A while back I was watching a twitch stream of some red player's. I think his name was Bestow, iksar shaman leveling at the time. The people he was voice chatting with got into a conversation about trans people, and someone was going on about how they're crazy and how he could never respect a person that acted in such a way. What guild is Bestow and his friends in, does anyone know? Please share.
Yep. So. Could I find a home here, or should I keep on with my blue characters and continue missing out on that sweet pvp? Saw tonight there's still a fair amount of "faggot" and "******" being thrown about in chat, but it's to be expected anywhere on the internet in some instances. Is that the norm here in guildchat? Would you talk shit about a person's sexual orientation or what have you in any serious way?
Rule #1, don't share anything personal that you don't want thrown in your face in game or on the forums. You already fucked that up, but have some redemption left at either going completely incognito in game or making a whole new forum account.
The less vocal you are the less of a target you become.
Heyitsme
04-30-2014, 01:33 PM
Rule #1, don't share anything personal that you don't want thrown in your face in game or on the forums. You already fucked that up, but have some redemption left at either going completely incognito in game or making a whole new forum account.
The less vocal you are the less of a target you become.
Azure made it here, so nut up you pussy.
Heyitsme
04-30-2014, 01:57 PM
Azure made it here, so nut up you pussy.
If by made it, you mean, constantly harrassed
Layers. Azure trolls pretty hard on forums.
Trosh
04-30-2014, 02:26 PM
I very much doubt anyone is going to actually give you shit for being gay. I'm sure you'll hear 'fag' tossed around a lot, but that's really meant as more of a generic insult than a gay-slur these days.
Yeah dude, it means inappropriate loud assholes that ride harley motorcycles.
South Park ftw.
Rettj
04-30-2014, 02:29 PM
British meatballs
Susvain2
04-30-2014, 02:29 PM
lol bestow bad for the server
Ghost of Jibekn
04-30-2014, 02:48 PM
man so many people getting trolled by OP, this community never learns
Something'Witty
04-30-2014, 02:52 PM
man so many people getting trolled by OP, this community never learns
http://www.geekexchange.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/The-Nightman-Cometh.gif
mikemandella
04-30-2014, 04:53 PM
All you guys getting TROLLED... HAHA
- Oppressor
nilzark
04-30-2014, 06:13 PM
OP did not say she was gay, she said she was Tranny.
Yiblaan
04-30-2014, 06:39 PM
Idk Man, I lead the only LGBT Guild on Blue <Flaming Gaze> and I got PMs from people telling me to stop. In addition, there is a lot of animosity towards LGBT (sometimes) Be careful, message me if you need more info
Kimmie
04-30-2014, 07:02 PM
Idk Man, I lead the only LGBT Guild on Blue <Flaming Gaze> and I got PMs from people telling me to stop. In addition, there is a lot of animosity towards LGBT (sometimes) Be careful, message me if you need more info
FG doesn't even exist anymore after you gave in to anti-gay terrorism and cowered behind the title Tears of Prexus. Why do you think Nalkin and I left FG? We knew it was headed down the wrong path. RIP FG
filthyphil
04-30-2014, 07:14 PM
Going to mail you some anthrax packaged as cocaine, I know how you gays love cocaine.
new player
04-30-2014, 07:14 PM
I too am a Tranny. I am very surprised to see how big the tranny community is here. I have ran into atleast 2 others just in the last week. I am thinking about making a guild actually.
I think this is great for the community to be honest.
http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/90582_trannyhipoct07.jpg
--Mic
Kevynne
04-30-2014, 09:26 PM
lgbt
<is gay
<still yells faggot
faggot means annoying asshole.
no longer means a gay person
Pokeman
05-01-2014, 12:22 AM
did not read thread but i am genderqueer pansexual
Softcore PK
05-01-2014, 04:12 AM
Azure made it here, so nut up you pussy.
Azure is self-deprecating though :(
Some of the people that play here seem genuinely bigoted, and I don't mean like Casey with his tasteless humor. Sucks there isn't a better raiding guild around.
Bazia
05-01-2014, 04:27 AM
Everyone here insults other people they don't like with whatever they can, just don't be a little sensitive baby about it and you'll be fine.
Didn't everyone else learn in middle school that the only way people talking shit to you can bother you is if you let it?
Plus Casey is hilarious deal with it.
Musetii
05-01-2014, 06:44 AM
aww yiss.
Lmao this first response tho
dreama1
05-01-2014, 01:25 PM
Most of the people on here appear to be insecure neckbeards who think that if a queer or lgbt individual is talking to them that means that they're interested in them. Yet no girl wants them so what makes them think a guy wants them.
The word 'faggot' is used as an insult all the time on here because they have the vocabulary of a 13 year old prepubescent boy.
BigHurb
05-01-2014, 01:34 PM
Idk Man, I lead the only LGBT Guild on Blue <Flaming Gaze> and I got PMs from people telling me to stop. In addition, there is a lot of animosity towards LGBT (sometimes) Be careful, message me if you need more info
thats cause ur an annoying person. buttfucking aside.
new player
05-01-2014, 01:59 PM
Personally, I would like to see more organized events for gay people. Like a gay day or something, where prizes are givin out to in game dance competitions, races and such.
Smedy
05-02-2014, 04:29 AM
mandatory aons for all gays, gyno would become a powerbottom
phacemeltar
05-02-2014, 04:34 AM
i just realized.. LGBT makes no mention to straight people. this sounds like discrimination to me.
Goobles
05-02-2014, 06:25 AM
Where is Secrets and Yiblaan when you need them?
And dude, you are going to encounter issues wherever you go. Some people are just not comfortably with the LGBT community, and that's fine too. Go on your merry way, play, and find your own place. The community on Red is getting better, but you're bound to run into some crude opinions somewhere along the way (just as in RL).
If it's fear that's holding you back, then just don't do it.
Goobles
05-02-2014, 06:27 AM
Personally, I would like to see more organized events for gay people. Like a gay day or something, where prizes are givin out to in game dance competitions, races and such.
So now we're recognizing being gay as an accomplishment?
Why don't we recognize being alive as an accomplishment and give everyone trophies and guises because they're breathing and not a robot (or zombie)?
Goobles
05-02-2014, 06:35 AM
Okay, now that I read the second page my blood is boiling.
GRATS NEW_PLAYER YOU'RE A TRANNY!!!!
I DONT FUCKING CARE -- SORRY YOU NEVER GOT ATTENTION WHEN YOU WERE A KID AND ARE NOW TRYING TO ASSERT AND INSERT YOURSELF FOR THE CHOICES YOU HAVE MADE -
ACCEPTING YOUR GAYDOM IS A CHOICE, JUST LIKE DENYING IT IS A CHOICE
I HOPE THIS ENTIRE THREAD IS DELETED/LOCKED, OR MOVED TO R&F FOR OPEN SEASON
--
HOLDING DOWN THE SHIFT KEY WHILE TYPING REALLY EMPHASIZES ANGERRRRR
Not_Kazowi
05-02-2014, 07:46 AM
http://cdn.gifbay.com/2012/10/there_is_no_need_to_be_upset-4390.gif
Azure
05-02-2014, 11:30 AM
http://cdn.gifbay.com/2012/10/there_is_no_need_to_be_upset-4390.gif
that is really a flying lawnmower, pretty damn cool if u ask me also, just being lgbt rustles people here, people are weaksauce
i re-itirate my post - people here are kinda perma rustled lgbt or not someone will find something to be mad about if they are hell bent on being mad
(i'm not really self deprecating)
Rettj
05-02-2014, 12:29 PM
Meatballs everywhere
Agatha
05-02-2014, 01:12 PM
have pretended to be gay, a girl, rich, poor, a drug dealer, oil family money rich on this server among other things..
everyone liked me.
Rettj
05-02-2014, 01:16 PM
have pretended to be gay, a girl, rich, poor, a drug dealer, oil family money rich on this server among other things..
everyone liked me.
I knew
no chewie dont
05-02-2014, 01:23 PM
Never liked agatha even when he pretended to be an ugly girl
BigHurb
05-02-2014, 01:31 PM
yea never liked you either agatha, star cop newb slaying cheating whore
Dirtnap
05-02-2014, 01:36 PM
I was a part of the conversation the OP was talking about.
We weren't bashing transexuals, we were talking about shit that I thought was fairly philosophical.
Would you rather have sex with Buck Angel (Female to Male) or Bailey Jay (Male to Female).
Buck looks like a guy, but has a vagina. Bailey looks female, but has a dick.
If that was offensive to you, I don't even know what to say. Grow thicker skin?
EDIT: After reading the thread more, I don't think this was the other night. Still interesting topic though.
Rettj
05-02-2014, 03:13 PM
Did u pick baily or buck?
HippoNipple
05-02-2014, 03:49 PM
Did u pick baily or buck?
http://www.queerty.com/wp/docs/2010/05/buck0200.jpg
http://www.baileyjaygranger.com/wp-content/uploads/young-bailey-jay-500x324.jpg
Trick question, either way you are a homo.
Dirtnap
05-02-2014, 04:20 PM
Bailey:
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/a3/d7/ed/a3d7ed9fd7a33698cbc87ae57334d7a4.jpg
Buck:
http://forums.fitnessrxformen.com/filedata/fetch?photoid=7504&type=thumb
Tzeriel
05-02-2014, 06:35 PM
Bailey is a total trap in the sense that you're gay if you do it, gay if you don't.
dethbringre
05-02-2014, 06:48 PM
Bailey 10/10
Buck 7/10 - not into the tats, thats how you get hepC
Azure
05-02-2014, 06:59 PM
Bailey 10/10
Buck 7/10 - not into the tats, thats how you get hepC
yeah, charlton heston is a sexy mofucker, ya digs? )
but yeah, i'de have a hard time turning down bailey if she got romantic with me
Rettj
05-02-2014, 07:10 PM
Baily Buck Runlvlzero
Fuck one marry one kill one
Azure
05-02-2014, 07:11 PM
Baily Buck Runlvlzero
Fuck one marry one kill one
y u so mad? i ain't even trollinu
Rettj
05-02-2014, 07:18 PM
How does fuck marry kill game make me mad?
Azure
05-02-2014, 07:37 PM
How does fuck marry kill game make me mad?
i never played that game, it's not nice to kill people just cause u won't fuck or marry them :mad:
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