View Full Version : Jboots resetting gcd
jaybone
05-05-2014, 05:13 AM
I heard this was classic but never heard anyone talk about it for how broken/good it is.
arsenalpow
05-05-2014, 05:46 AM
Any clicky resets it
Pheer
05-05-2014, 06:14 AM
you just noticed? it was on beta like a month ago and its been on live since I believe the 4/27 patch lol
SyanideGas
05-05-2014, 06:20 AM
So leet
Tecmos Deception
05-05-2014, 06:47 AM
It is RIDICULOUSLY good for enchanters. Omfg. Like doubles my survivability when I don't need to wait 2 seconds between stuns/roots/etc :)
webrunner5
05-05-2014, 10:56 AM
Yeah, it is a game changer for Enchanters. :D
jaybone
05-05-2014, 10:59 AM
Well yeah any click resets it. So good.
Tecmos Deception
05-05-2014, 11:03 AM
Does that tinkered telescope thing click from inventory AND without having to target yourself? Does the effect from it actually affect your vision?
khanable
05-05-2014, 11:05 AM
Just get a goblin earring bruh
Yumyums Inmahtumtums
05-05-2014, 11:09 AM
Rod of insidious glamour seems to be the best for enchanters as you stay on target and there are no indoor/outdoor checks.
Nirgon
05-05-2014, 11:12 AM
It is RIDICULOUSLY good for enchanters. Omfg. Like doubles my survivability when I don't need to wait 2 seconds between stuns/roots/etc :)
Know what's gonna be bad for enchanters? When channeling is brought more in line / resist checks. That VoG'd bok knight becomes QUITE a liability!
:o
I'm praisin' the sun atm and will leave it alone.
Tecmos Deception
05-05-2014, 11:12 AM
Just get a goblin earring bruh
Believe it or not, I actually already have one :p
But I'd prefer to not have a mostly-wasted piece of equipped gear if there is a better option.
Rod of insidious glamour seems to be the best for enchanters as you stay on target and there are no indoor/outdoor checks.
Nice.
Nightbear
05-05-2014, 01:03 PM
Just get a goblin earring bruh
captnamazing
05-05-2014, 01:12 PM
Rod of insidious glamour seems to be the best for enchanters as you stay on target and there are no indoor/outdoor checks.
You're feeling friendly.
Juevento
05-05-2014, 01:31 PM
This is where you "classic" people lose me. You want to knowingly put an exploit back in the game? Just cause the devs didn't fix it 13 years ago?
Does not compute.
Daldaen
05-05-2014, 01:38 PM
My enchanter uses rod
My Druid uses Manastone / goblin earring
My cleric wtb goblin earring
This bug is fun for micromanaging min/maxers. Specifically when CCing stuff does this make your life way easier. For Canni it also helps.
khanable
05-05-2014, 01:47 PM
This is where you "classic" people lose me. You want to knowingly put an exploit back in the game? Just cause the devs didn't fix it 13 years ago?
Does not compute.
imo they need to put the 'anyone can attack anyone that is LD' bug back in
duels were luls in ec tunnel on live, INTIMIDATE, OMG GANG BANG IN TUNNEL
Yumyums Inmahtumtums
05-05-2014, 02:18 PM
You're feeling friendly.
Why wouldn't i?
HawkMasterson1999
05-05-2014, 02:22 PM
This is where you "classic" people lose me. You want to knowingly put an exploit back in the game? Just cause the devs didn't fix it 13 years ago?
Does not compute.
If you're not a "classic" person maybe try playing on a server that wasn't set up with the intention of being classic. This is where the non-classic people lose me. EZ server is just a click away. Hidden forest is pretty popular too.
deadlycupcakez
05-05-2014, 02:26 PM
what youre saying is i can canni // sow boots // canni forever with no waiting?
or on a wizzie - nuke > jboots > root without having to wait for the gems to refresh??
Yumyums Inmahtumtums
05-05-2014, 02:28 PM
what youre saying is i can canni // sow boots // canni forever with no waiting?
or on a wizzie - nuke > jboots > root without having to wait for the gems to refresh??
Canni 2 // sow boots // canni 3 // sow boots etc...
Or if you're on beta: canni 4 // sow boots // canni 3 etc....
There is still a refresh on the spell you just casted so you need to cycle between two to allow enough time for the other to pop.
Cecily
05-05-2014, 02:33 PM
This is where you "classic" people lose me. You want to knowingly put an exploit back in the game? Just cause the devs didn't fix it 13 years ago?
Does not compute.
With you 100%.
Juevento
05-05-2014, 02:35 PM
With you 100%.
Ah fuck. I guess I am wrong about this one.
Ciroco
05-05-2014, 02:40 PM
If you're not a "classic" person maybe try playing on a server that wasn't set up with the intention of being classic. This is where the non-classic people lose me. EZ server is just a click away. Hidden forest is pretty popular too.
You're defending a massively beneficial exploit and then telling someone to go play on an EZ server?
Cecily
05-05-2014, 02:49 PM
Ah fuck. I guess I am wrong about this one.
I support whatever nets the most tears. Every caster throughout the land weeping... mmm.
And also it blatantly bypasses an intended game mechanic.
Yumyums Inmahtumtums
05-05-2014, 02:51 PM
Cecily confirmed highest TPS (tears per second) rogue on the server.
Cecily
05-05-2014, 03:01 PM
Still mad about IGS nerf. Want to see world burn.
Imslap
05-05-2014, 03:03 PM
I support whatever nets the most tears. Every caster throughout the land weeping... mmm.
And also it blatantly bypasses an intended game mechanic.
http://i.imgur.com/Ywe0GVN.gif
Tecmos Deception
05-05-2014, 03:13 PM
You're defending a massively beneficial exploit and then telling someone to go play on an EZ server?
P1999 is intended by its creator(s) to more-or-less recreate classic EQ. That means classic mechanics generally get put in/left in place, even if the mechanics seem like exploits or imbalances today.
No, classic mechanics don't always remain in place on p99. No, p99 isn't totally devoid of custom mechanics. But none of this is stuff that "does not compute" with the stated purpose of the server.
jaybone
05-05-2014, 03:14 PM
hmm
HawkMasterson1999
05-05-2014, 05:05 PM
Although I may seem like a classic purist I don't think it would break classic if they did away with this.
Now we just need classic spell casting i.e. no instant interrupts via ducking. Just like red!
Supaskillz
05-05-2014, 05:58 PM
Now we just need classic spell casting i.e. no instant interrupts via ducking. Just like red!
I actually don't understand why this was implemented on red but not blue.
Now we just need classic spell casting i.e. no instant interrupts via ducking. Just like red!
Was it after Velious release that they finally disabled sitting during your cast? I remember Clerics getting in a med tick or two during CHeal casts, but I can't recall when that got nerfed.
Supaskillz
05-05-2014, 06:17 PM
Was it after Velious release that they finally disabled sitting during your cast? I remember Clerics getting in a med tick or two during CHeal casts, but I can't recall when that got nerfed.
Thi made items like Donal's arms much better in kunark. I know at least
For part of kunark this was possible, thought fix came after velious but don't know.
Iumuno
05-05-2014, 06:42 PM
You still could not complete 2 spells within one global cooldown (3 sec?). Not sure if it's working this way atm.
Classic example: Mezz a mob, use jboots to clear GCD, cast color shift (1.5 sec) right away: You get "spell recovery time" not met message. You had to wait a little over 1 sec after clearing the GCD to be able to cast color shift. It was still immensely useful though.
While it wasn't working as intended, it took them *4* years to fix it. At one point, it becomes a feature, not an exploit or a bug.
Was it after Velious release that they finally disabled sitting during your cast? I remember Clerics getting in a med tick or two during CHeal casts, but I can't recall when that got nerfed.
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June 27, 2001 3:00 am
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- Spell and Item Interruption: Ducking will now interrupt a spell
instantly.
Damn guys.
It worked like this till 2001. Unless you played something that cast no spells, this is something you should definitely remember.
In addition to this, you *should* be able to sit down during a long cast from a spell or clicky. As long as you are standing when it completes, it should resolve and cast.
I hope this is a joke. It obviously takes a lot more skill to pay attention to wtf you're doing and not cast the wrong spell.
If you review the patch notes, you'll discover we didn't have this functionality until long after pve was opened.
I support it being added purely because it should classically be there until June, 2001. It wasn't added because pve had been up for multiple years. PvP server had the option of starting with it.
Regardless, this is the pvp bugs section, so working as intended until midway Velious.
Ciroco
05-06-2014, 12:19 AM
P1999 is intended by its creator(s) to more-or-less recreate classic EQ. That means classic mechanics generally get put in/left in place, even if the mechanics seem like exploits or imbalances today.
No, classic mechanics don't always remain in place on p99. No, p99 isn't totally devoid of custom mechanics. But none of this is stuff that "does not compute" with the stated purpose of the server.
Yeah, I was more mocking the implication that wanting things to be not exactly classic = whining for easy mode EQ.
applesauce25r624
05-06-2014, 05:00 AM
this awesome fact needs to be mentioned in the wiki in multiple places
Bill Tetley
05-13-2014, 10:43 AM
Will this "feature" be around a long time or is it being fixed next patch?
Yumyums Inmahtumtums
05-13-2014, 10:50 AM
Thi made items like Donal's arms much better in kunark. I know at least
For part of kunark this was possible, thought fix came after velious but don't know.
You can still do this if you toggle sit/stand with ur spellbook.
I do it casting long ass spells.
Will this "feature" be around a long time or is it being fixed next patch?
Should be for the remainder of the server's life. Think this was fixed in PoP.
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