Should be no exp loss for Suicide/Environmental deaths

[Wily]

Suicide, drowning, falling, bleeding to death and other environmental deaths did not cause exp loss on Rallos Zek.

This is the oldest screenshot I could find confirming this from 2002, probably from Luclin:

http://web.archive.org/web/20020712161718/http://www.ascendingdawn.com/cgi-bin/ad.pl?page=screenshots&action=view&id=798
http://web.archive.org/web/20020712161718/http://www.ascendingdawn.com/cgi-bin/ad.pl?page=screenshots&action=view&id=798

[Wily]

http://web.archive.org/web/20020712161718/http://www.ascendingdawn.com/cgi-bin/ad.pl?page=screenshots&action=view&id=798

[Nirgon]

This is true

[Potus]

Yeah this should get changed, was that way on the team zeks as well.

[no chewie dont]

suicide is painless

source: m*a*s*h theme

[Bamz4l]

this is very classic pvp mechanics, not only rallos but talon also, and presumably vallon/sullon

[Supaskillz]

So manastone can save you from xp loss in all situations?

[arsenalpow]

Yeah this should get changed, was that way on the team zeks as well.

yup pulling a large HP item was a solid way to cheat a pvp death and not lose xp, good for not dying to mobs too

[Bamz4l]

So manastone can save you from xp loss in all situations?

If I recall correctly, yes. That and HT, also removing HP gear when u are below that amount of HP - (being at 50 hp and removing djarn ring should make "soanso dies." without xp loss)

edit: just realized the guy above me said the same thing

[Nirgon]

So manastone can save you from xp loss in all situations?

This incurred xp loss just not environmentals, not sure how this is all treated code-wise here.

No. Iirc killing yourself was also an xp death with mana stone death saying "Nirgon has been slain by Nirgon". Lava/fall/drown/bleed out should be no xp lost.

Killing yourself/environment/bleed out would also prevent item loot.

[Nirgon]

Mana stone to death counted as a self kill which is xp death BigHurb pal

[Bamz4l]

what about pulling hp gear, pretty sure u got the "soandso dies"