Should i re-roll?

[Kafter]

I currently have a 40 gnome necro who i love playing based on my current play times but want so badly to be an iksar lol. Do you think it is worth it to start all over? The regen would be another huge reason but mostly just because i love the way they look.

Why didn't i roll one originally you ask? Because when I got this account a long time ago the necro was a gnome at level 30 so i just continued from there!

All opinions welcome! Thanks.

[Nebi]

just do it. do it before you get too deep in.

[Ele]

You've only put ten levels in. Don't put in the 20 hardest levels if you don't think the race is the one you want to stick with.

Just transfer a bunch of HP items from your gnome and you should be back to 40 easily.

[Kafter]

Awesome. Thanks for the advice. What is he best choice for where to put my starting stats? I know iksars have low int so should i put 20 into int 10 into sta?

[fadetree]

I don't think sta has much of a return overall for int casters, so I personally would go +10 str or something for carry weight rather than that, or maybe just all int. But I am no necro expert.

[sox7d]

I got this account a long time ago the necro was a gnome at level 30

yeah, go ahead and reroll. not to get too sentimental and gay, but this game is a lot more fun when it's the character you named, created, leveled and accomplished.

[Uteunayr]

Greetings!

First off, to your question about starting stats, I made a post in this thread (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149985) about what you want to consider when giving yourself stats. Don't worry about strength for carrying capacity, as that's only a temporary issue. Get stats that are going to make you a better necromancer. That's stamina and intelligence.

Right now, as an Iksar, if you consider just Kunark gear, you should go 110 int/75 sta (+25 int, +5 sta). This is because Int gives you ~10 mana per point up to 200, and ~6 mana per point up to 255. Stamina nets you only ~2 health per point up ot 200. However, in Velious, it intelligence on high end gear inflates, and so it is easier to hit 255. All int past 255 is wasted stat allocation. So, what I basically say in the other thread is that you need to consider how far you plan to go with your necromancer. Intelligence/mana is useful in situations, just as health is useful in situations. Do you think you'll play to get the top gear where you'll cap int? Or do you think you'll be only moderately geared where you wont be capping int? Consider that.

Ultimately, I sided with the conservative 110int/75sta Iksar build, because the loss at full BIS (according to wiki list) is only losing a potential of 28 HP. That isn't something that is a problem to me. You can't really know what gear you're going to get, and the gear you get determines how much stamina you want. I wouldn't put stats into stamina unless your int is going to be over 255, as int will always net you more stat in the end, and there are better ways to get your health pool stacked.

On to your main question: Yes. Reroll now. Do not wait until you're level 60 with EoT & No Drops to reroll. Do it now, and enjoy the glorious FD animation and the cool robes model. Faction can be fixed easily, you can bank anywhere on an Iksar because of Feign Death, you can buy stalking probes. With circlet, you have no issue getting through guards at all, etc. Really, the only thing you lose is being able to face plant and see through walls.

[Frogie305]

Best necro on the server is a gnome sooooooooooooooo yahhhhhh

[baalzy]

I have a 57 necro (gnome, started during vanilla) and a 35 necro. I use the 57 to break camps before logging over to the 35 in some cases. I also just leave the 57 camped at money camps to check for rare pops on occasion.

Plus, lotta fun to be had lvling a necro 20-50.

Edit:
My iskar is 15str/15int and I don't regret it one bit.

[jaybone]

Or you could be a gnome and just enjoy going about anywhere you want.

[drktmplr12]

imo, i would go with a bit more stam. longevity is not usually a necro's problem so maxxing mana will only make it take longer to med up.. unless you are talking about solo'ing in HS.

you will find yourself having to sacrifice stats for resists in the end..

[Kafter]

This is great input. Thanks everyone I'll be making my ikky tonight !

[Daldaen]

Every non iksar necro should reroll. Iksars are boss.

[Valere]

Iksar + Call of Bones = oh look they don't know I'm an Iksar anymore.

Your move gnomes.

[Erydan Ouragan]

Or you could be a gnome and just enjoy going about anywhere you want.

It certainly a nice perk, i agree. Plus they level faster too, iksars have that -20% xp penalty.

But here's something to keep in mind: once you're at 60, the penalty doesn't matter anymore. Faction can be fixed.

But one thing remains. One thing that cannot be bought, sold or traded. Nor be quested or begged.

Dat regen.

[Ahldagor]

It certainly a nice perk, i agree. Plus they level faster too, iksars have that -20% xp penalty.

But here's something to keep in mind: once you're at 60, the penalty doesn't matter anymore. Faction can be fixed.

But one thing remains. One thing that cannot be bought, sold or traded. Nor be quested or begged.

Dat regen.

that and robes look good lizards

[Mercurial]

Personally i think iksar necros look awesome, its like the only class that looks suitable for that race lol

[Imslap]

~33% exp penalty is something to consider when thinking of rerolling iksar necro. Your gnome is only 10% exp penalty

[Xer0]

I rerolled my 42 DE SK as an Iksar solely for the extra regen.

[webrunner5]

Unless you are TOTALLY into min max stuff I would stay with the Gnome. A lot more friendly in most zones and cooler looking. My 2 cents.

[QuantumZebra]

yeah, go ahead and reroll. not to get too sentimental and gay, but this game is a lot more fun when it's the character you named, created, leveled and accomplished.

Ah yes, glad you reminded me. Forgot it was gay to care about stuff.

[Uteunayr]

Keep in mind that the -32% XP penalty that Iksar suffer is heavily counteracted by the increased efficiency that Regen provides to your Lich efficiency. In my tests with Uteu and Sesser, I leveled faster in the 49+ range on an Iksar than a Non-Iksar because I didn't have to use mana inefficient lifetaps nearly as often. While this doesn't do anything to help the XP penalty from 1-48, it does help you level faster in the time when it is hardest.

Further, XP penalty is temporary. Bad faction is temporary. You can repair FP/Qeynos merchants quite fast, and you can tag onto Lucan kills to make NFP your home. Circlet of Shadow will get you past guards, and FD will let you bank anywhere. Call of Bones will make Neriak Amiable to you, letting you get coffins, and you can even turn in Red Wine in 3rd Gate if you really want to repair the rep outside of skelly form.

[sox7d]

Ah yes, glad you reminded me. Forgot it was gay to care about stuff.

when it comes to a <50 polygon lizard monster, it is a little bit.


-Sox7d, Level 60 epic Shitlord.

[loramin]

Ah yes, glad you reminded me. Forgot it was gay to care about stuff.

when it comes to a <50 polygon lizard monster, it is a little bit.

-Sox7d, Level 60 epic Shitlord.

Totally. Because this server is FULL of gay people caring about their character, and straight people who just don't give a shit about their character. ;)

[Imslap]

Totally. Because this server is FULL of gay people caring about their character, and straight people who just don't give a shit about their character. ;)

YOU FORGOT THE GAYS THAT DONT CARE ABOUT THEIR CHARACTERS! I am one of those gays.

[loramin]

Back on topic though, I'd argue that it comes down to your level of alt-itis.

What I mean by that is, if this is going to be the one and only character that you ever play, Iksar is the clear choice. In that case you won't mind putting in all that extra time to level an Iksar to back to your gnome's level (and the extra xp beyond that because of the penalty) because in the long run it will be worth it, and then once you reach 60 you'll have time to fix factions (if you even want to bother). But if you stick with the gnome as your only char, you'll forever be wishing he had regen.

On the other hand, if this is going to be just one character of many for you, who cares if your necro is slightly-less-than-maximally efficient? A gnome necro can farm loots for your other chars just fine, and will get to the level where he can farm the best loots faster than a re-rolled Iksar would.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Every non iksar necro should reroll. Iksars are boss.

[Heavenzoutcast]

Reroll. Final answer.

[Tasslehofp99]

Or you could be a gnome and just enjoy going about anywhere you want.

You can do that with an iksar and a shrink potion.

[Kafter]

Back on topic though, I'd argue that it comes down to your level of alt-itis.

What I mean by that is, if this is going to be the one and only character that you ever play, Iksar is the clear choice. In that case you won't mind putting in all that extra time to level an Iksar to back to your gnome's level (and the extra xp beyond that because of the penalty) because in the long run it will be worth it, and then once you reach 60 you'll have time to fix factions (if you even want to bother). But if you stick with the gnome as your only char, you'll forever be wishing he had regen.

On the other hand, if this is going to be just one character of many for you, who cares if your necro is slightly-less-than-maximally efficient? A gnome necro can farm loots for your other chars just fine, and will get to the level where he can farm the best loots faster than a re-rolled Iksar would.


Good point. I have a 60 and 55 level characters but i just dont have time to play and raid anymore. I usually put in a few hours, couple times a week and with such little time i found that soloing on a necro still let's me enjoy the game without any real time commitments. After reading all this i think id enjoy re rolling and the adventure back to the top with an iksar.

[August]

Gnome is master race. If any class could be a gnome, you should stick with it.

I recently had a 27 monk that I wished was an iksar. I rerolled at that point, and now he is 45.

However if I could be a gnome monk it would be gno question.

gnome.

[joreyklein]

Thanks for this post, i've decided to re-roll my level 16 erudite to an Iksar. For leveling is it safe to assume field of bone then kurns tower till level 20?

[Kafter]

Thats where I'll be! Whats your new character name? We can get some duo action going.

[joreyklein]

Thats where I'll be! Whats your new character name? We can get some duo action going.

My characters name is Kaevus. I hit level 4 last night, i'll be on tonight so we can duo if you'd like!

[baalzy]

I don't even notice the xp penalty on my iksar. 20-34 being able to use allure of death and GAIN hp while sitting. That right there is pure poetry, means you pretty much do not have to use your really crappy lifetaps at those levels and can use your mana on better things.

[joreyklein]

The regen is awesome, I pretty much stood in one spot just with auto attack on casting the occasional life tape swarmed by 5 - 6 scaled pup or decaying skeletons never dying. Totally untwinked, it was lulzy.

[Kafter]

Yeah, already loving it lol. My chars name is Phlesh I'll be on later tonight. Most likely drunk, we can make FOB our bitch. Almost level 4.

[joreyklein]

Yeah, already loving it lol. My chars name is Phlesh I'll be on later tonight. Most likely drunk, we can make FOB our bitch. Almost level 4.

Yup, I remember your name last night. Not sure your time zone but I will be on around 9:00ish CST. I can play a couple hours.

[joreyklein]

SO I got my Iksar necro to level 9, where should I be hunting till it's time for me to go to Kurns tower? Also note, he's modertely twinked.

[Heavenzoutcast]

I stay in fob till 12 so you have your undead nuke. I stay in kurns till 21.