Gnoll Fangs - Nerfed

[daasgoot]

Maybe i missed an update where the devs mentioned some changes..

but for those of you who don't know, the fangs turn in has been nerfed.

220 fangs took me from lvl 13-16

[Skittlez]

That's what you faggots get.

[daasgoot]

That's what you faggots get.

lol ur a shitty. go home

[Snackies]

310 fangs took my 15 ranger to 17.5.

It felt awesome because I'm a ranger.

[daasgoot]

310 fangs took my 15 ranger to 17.5.

It felt awesome because I'm a ranger.

yeah.. but when youve had the best.. even good isn't good enough..

my druid went lvl 12-20 with 200 fangs

[Tankdan]

OP is getting people to not go to blackburrow so he can farm them.

Nice try... Been done.

[Cecily]

I think I did about 50 gnoll fangs on my ranger when they were awesome, got sick of the high levels farming them, went elsewhere, leveled up, got my epics, leveled some more, had fun not being in blackburrow.

[Valdarious]

I wish they would nerf it. BB is such a fun zone, currently it sucks as it is a ghost town every time I go in there. All the gnolls are hiding because they are afraid of all the high levels wiping them up.

[Nummuk]

My wife started playing EQ for the first time. Erudite Enchanter got to level 7.

We were forced to move her to Freeport because she couldn't find anything to fight, even in Qeynos Hills, because the gnoll fang epidemic is so rampant.

[webrunner5]

OP is getting people to not go to blackburrow so he can farm them.

Nice try... Been done.

Your a very smart person lol.

[Champion_Standing]

Gnoll fangs are doing more damage to the server than 2 boxing, RMTing and 3rd party programs combined.

[Tecmos Deception]

My wife started playing EQ for the first time. Erudite Enchanter got to level 7.

We were forced to move her to Freeport because she couldn't find anything to fight, even in Qeynos Hills, because the gnoll fang epidemic is so rampant.

Just in case you're being serious, there's a rabid grizzly that paths around whose spawn point is out in front of blackburrow. Respawns every 6 min or so. Farm that spawn for the xp and pelts, turn in the pelts in temple of rodcet nife, ???, profit. Just watch out for the druid and ranger folk in qeynos hills... I can't remember if they tolerate killing the rabid animals or not.

[SamwiseRed]

poor WK never gets love. i remember on red i had a group doing bandits there. also duo'd the ogres. nice zone just so fucking big.

[Glenzig]

poor WK never gets love. i remember on red i had a group doing bandits there. also duo'd the ogres. nice zone just so fucking big.

Shhhh. Don't tell anyone my secret abandoned leveling spot. Gosh Sam!

[iruinedyourday]

poor WK never gets love. i remember on red i had a group doing bandits there. also duo'd the ogres. nice zone just so fucking big.

That zone is so good, and most people I meet there are so chill. Bandit sashes after gnoll fangs is a great way to be independent till your nearly 20!

I did bb alone as a noob to p99 and the server, one dude was definitely taking more that his fair share of gnolls so I /told him and he said this and I shit you not, 'sorry friend was helping me and I had buffs and was being greedy, want to group still? I'm sorry :('

So whoah! Yea! If you see someone high level killing things and your low, or a nub then just ask them about it, chances are there's a human playing that character and they're gona be cool!

BB sucked to level in live, there was always 2 people for every 1 gnoll in that zone, so if it's a ghost town as in nothing to kill, awesome! Shits classic! :)

I would rather go to a zone and have every npc killed by other players than go to one and have everything up, because that's what live is now, overcrowding, permacamping, ugh, that's Eq and why I love p99!

Also yes 200 ish fangs plus the xp from gnolls = 7-15 for my bard.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

poor WK never gets love. i remember on red i had a group doing bandits there. also duo'd the ogres. nice zone just so fucking big.

Bandit camps are awesome for when you don't have any cash. Can easily make 500p or more during your bandit-experience levels which should be more than enough for your spells.

Ogres are good too but gotta be careful; once the chief spawns the party is over.

[kaev]

Bandit camps are awesome for when you don't have any cash. Can easily make 500p or more during your bandit-experience levels which should be more than enough for your spells.

Ogres are good too but gotta be careful; once the chief spawns the party is over.

Haha! Chief is a fun interruption of the usual boring run across WK.

[Imslap]

That zone is so good, and most people I meet there are so chill. Bandit sashes after gnoll fangs is a great way to be independent till your nearly 20!

I did bb alone as a noob to p99 and the server, one dude was definitely taking more that his fair share of gnolls so I /told him and he said this and I shit you not, 'sorry friend was helping me and I had buffs and was being greedy, want to group still? I'm sorry :('

So whoah! Yea! If you see someone high level killing things and your low, or a nub then just ask them about it, chances are there's a human playing that character and they're gona be cool!

BB sucked to level in live, there was always 2 people for every 1 gnoll in that zone, so if it's a ghost town as in nothing to kill, awesome! Shits classic! :)

I would rather go to a zone and have every npc killed by other players than go to one and have everything up, because that's what live is now, overcrowding, permacamping, ugh, that's Eq and why I love p99!

Also yes 200 ish fangs plus the xp from gnolls = 7-15 for my bard.

You must have been there before Abacab was cheating his way to level 40 in BB. But alas, he is gone, so future BB adventurers don't have to worry about it.

[Ahldagor]

blackburrow's spooky music brain washed a lot of us. WK and elsewhere that i cannot mention in good faith are what's up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLzPMVFDdYA

[iruinedyourday]

You must have been there before Abacab was cheating his way to level 40 in BB. But alas, he is gone, so future BB adventurers don't have to worry about it.

you know what, i grouped with him in snake pit! I didn't notice any cheating though. He was friendly and answered my /ooc LFG

[saedain]

did they really nerf it?!

[Cecily]

Took me 700 fangs to get to 20.

[Messianic]

Took me 700 fangs to get to 20.

This is why we can't have nice things.

[TWDL_Prexus]

did they really nerf it?!

Yes, tested it on an alt yesterday. Still seems higher then classic though.

[Messianic]

Yes, tested it on an alt yesterday. Still seems higher then classic though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf5FRPfGiC8&

[Swish]

Good. If I can't level up on scorpion pincers in Field of Bone (nerfed the opening week of Kunark) then people shouldn't be allowed any fun with the gnoll fangs etc :p

[JayN]

Maybe i missed an update where the devs mentioned some changes..

but for those of you who don't know, the fangs turn in has been nerfed.

220 fangs took me from lvl 13-16

nooooooooooooooooooo

what will poor abbacab going to do now!

[SamwiseRed]

thread makes me want to start a new dude and qeynos and skip over BB right into the western karanas once again. shits classic.

[foldupmonk]

Awesome to find out after camping them all.

[Nummuk]

Just in case you're being serious, there's a rabid grizzly that paths around whose spawn point is out in front of blackburrow. Respawns every 6 min or so. Farm that spawn for the xp and pelts, turn in the pelts in temple of rodcet nife, ???, profit. Just watch out for the druid and ranger folk in qeynos hills... I can't remember if they tolerate killing the rabid animals or not.

I was serious. She couldn't handle the grizzly and the wolf was camped as hard as the gnolls. Level 7 untwinked isn't the easiest for enchanters, and she being a complete novice had no chance.

[iruinedyourday]

I was serious. She couldn't handle the grizzly and the wolf was camped as hard as the gnolls. Level 7 untwinked isn't the easiest for enchanters, and she being a complete novice had no chance.

man but what I wouldnt pay for those, 'omg im level 7 and everything in this zone is going to kill me, i have no idea where I am and what to do, what am I suposed to kill? Is that a giant? what was that? OMG what was that, holy shit that guy is glowing or something? I am fucking lost, shit.' feellings.

classic as it gets.

[Nummuk]

Meh. Get serious about having an inviting server for new players.

[iruinedyourday]

Meh. Get serious about having an inviting server for new players.

I Just started a month ago, I found it insanely inviting :) I dont know what to say buddy, if youre like mad and angry and want to make mountains of skulls and rivers of blood, maybe I cant help you :(


Ps (too soon?)

[Nummuk]

Nah, you're cool. That post was in response to Hurb's trollin. Can't expect someone who has never played EQ to "get serious" about it. :rolleyes:

[Clark]

My wife started playing EQ for the first time. Erudite Enchanter got to level 7.

We were forced to move her to Freeport because she couldn't find anything to fight, even in Qeynos Hills, because the gnoll fang epidemic is so rampant.

lol "the gnoll fang epidemic"

[Valdarious]

Well, not sure if it is a rumor or not but I was in a group with my 11 Monk last night and we were like the only group in there. I was the highest level.

[Obrae]

Well, not sure if it is a rumor or not but I was in a group with my 11 Monk last night and we were like the only group in there. I was the highest level.

i pop in there everynow and then and i am often greeted to a full spawn. Exp is really slowing down tho at 15 its like 2% for 3 fang. Gets really boring tho as only elites and commander are still blue then. So off to HighHoldPass

[moklianne]

Just in case you're being serious, there's a rabid grizzly that paths around whose spawn point is out in front of blackburrow. Respawns every 6 min or so. Farm that spawn for the xp and pelts, turn in the pelts in temple of rodcet nife, ???, profit. Just watch out for the druid and ranger folk in qeynos hills... I can't remember if they tolerate killing the rabid animals or not.

Holly Windstalker and yes, she will kill you if she sees you killing any wolf or bear, rabid or not.

[daasgoot]

Surprised i haven't seen any "gnoll fangs not nerfed on red" replies yet.

[Sorock]

you don't need gnoll fangs on red, a group is faster exp!

[Tewaz]

I turned in two Gnoll fangs on red with my level 15 enchanter and got 5% for each one.

I turned in 120 with my level 9 bard and it took him to level 12, barely. He was getting less than 2% per turn in at level 11 and 12.

I would say it has been nerfed. RIP Gnoll Fangs, you always helped me avoid levels 14-19.

[Zahr]

Shhhh. Don't tell anyone my secret abandoned leveling spot. Gosh Sam!

Gorge of Xorbb.....shit.

[Tasslehofp99]

you guys realize orc scalps give mad exp till 22? and im pretty sure any orcs in antonica can drop them

Deathfist belts 1-12
Orc scalps 12-22
Left goblin ears 22-34

[Clark]

Fungi √

[Ikonoclastia]

if this is true then that's awesome. was pretty ridiculous xp

[Sascrotch]

So can we get shared bank slots and other things that aren't classic now?

[Ikonoclastia]

So can we get shared bank slots and other things that aren't classic now?
1% xp at 38 wasn't classic. Likely why it was nerfed.

[Frug]

So can we get shared bank slots and other things that aren't classic now?

There's tons of stuff that isn't classic on P99 already - stop using this as a measure of what should or should not be on the server.

And the XP for the fangs was so horribly wrong that it wasn't classic anyway; nor POP, nor Velious, nor LDON, nor ANY EQ era. It was just wrong, period.

[Prodigal]

This is one time where my ADHD saved me. I got bored of sitting in Blackburrow and cashed in...

[Pinolian]

looks like the threads of complaining and finding proof that gnoll fangs were giving way too much exp paid off. I think I might start a monk there now :)

[Dfresh429]

Just in case you're being serious, there's a rabid grizzly that paths around whose spawn point is out in front of blackburrow. Respawns every 6 min or so. Farm that spawn for the xp and pelts, turn in the pelts in temple of rodcet nife, ???, profit. Just watch out for the druid and ranger folk in qeynos hills... I can't remember if they tolerate killing the rabid animals or not.


Rabid wolf - and there are 3 spawns. Turn in at the temple, get great exp, and a spell you sell back for a $$ awesome for low level toons to level up and get money for spells.

[Dfresh429]

you guys realize orc scalps give mad exp till 22? and im pretty sure any orcs in antonica can drop them

Deathfist belts 1-12
Orc scalps 12-22
Left goblin ears 22-34

Why don't people just play the game?

[Daldaen]

Game can be sort of boring at low levels before you get certain abilities, spells, and clickies.

[webrunner5]

Game can be sort of boring at low levels before you get certain abilities, spells, and clickies.

You think low levels are boring be a level 60 for about 3 years. :p

[Daldaen]

I have been??? Far less boring being a 60 Druid than an 8 enchanter with a crappy animation pet.

[Messianic]

looks like the threads of complaining and finding proof that gnoll fangs were giving way too much exp paid off. I think I might start a monk there now :)

They would have paid off if after the first dozen something was done about them.. this is about a year later.

Only the ones in the bugs forum paid off. The other stuff was just noise.

[Invoke]

I have been??? Far less boring being a 60 Druid than an 8 enchanter with a crappy animation pet.


Could not agree more. The first 16-20 levels are the true hell levels.

[kaev]

Could not disagree more. The first 30 or so levels were the most fun on every server I played live and on my first couple characters here as well. Orc hill in GFay, chessboard in BBM, mino caves in SF, derv camps and tarantulas in North Ro, orcs and bears in east & west commons, gnolls in BB (fuck the fangs, it was the chaos and trains that made BB great), Unrest, Karana bandits, corpse runs in Befallen, Crushbone, ...


It's when you give in to that daemon whispering "twink, twink, twink it to the gills! you know you want to" in your ear that the early levels pale a bit. Even then you can tour the hotspots, solo the empty camps, and give a hand here and there to meet new people.

[Invoke]

Could not disagree more. The first 30 or so levels were the most fun on every server I played live and on my first couple characters here as well. Orc hill in GFay, chessboard in BBM, mino caves in SF, derv camps and tarantulas in North Ro, orcs and bears in east & west commons, gnolls in BB (fuck the fangs, it was the chaos and trains that made BB great), Unrest, Karana bandits, corpse runs in Befallen, Crushbone, ...


It's when you give in to that daemon whispering "twink, twink, twink it to the gills! you know you want to" in your ear that the early levels pale a bit. Even then you can tour the hotspots, solo the empty camps, and give a hand here and there to meet new people.



I don't like that there isn't much class distinction at the lower levels. I like having more of the games content available. I'm sure you can see why people find that more desirable.

[Ravager]

PL is dumb. The game is way more fun when you play it.

[Messianic]

PL is dumb. The game is way more fun when you play it.

PL is dumb, but using in-game quests to level more quickly is most definitely not. I wish I had known about gnoll fangs when I started my first few chars on the server (all my chars on live leveled in Crushbone/Faydwer).

[Valdarious]

The thing I hate about pl is the fact you have to work that much harder to get your skills up to par once you reach a later level. This is a heavily skill based game and powerleveling just gimps you too much in my opinion.

[Messianic]

skill based game

3...2...1... flame!

[myriverse]

This is a heavily skill based game
Oh gosh, not this again. No.

[Nirgon]

This is a heavily skill based game

I'd agree based on the # of people who are just not good at EverQuest here.

[Messianic]

I'd agree based on the # of people who are just not good at EverQuest here.

What do you define as "skill" in EQ?

The problem is the word - typically when you hear "skill" you think of a basketball player's % to make a shot or a person's hand-eye coordination, or some other physical ability that can be virtually infinitely improved in a certain context.

EQ "skills" are not so. They *basically* plateau immediately. There are a few tiny tricks here and there but it doesn't increase much beyond that point. Once you've practiced soloing big-time mobs with charm or slow/torpor/etc/etc, you really don't get better at it. You just learn nuances of execution against different mobs. That's not really skill so much as it is knowledge.

So when you say there are tons of people who are bad at EQ, it means they lack a pretty basic set of skills; not that they're like "the worst player in the NFL", which is actually pretty damn good in terms of skill.

[RiffDaemon]

I'm pretty sure he was talking about skills such as dodge, alteration, 1h slash, 2h slash, piercing ..... all that stuff that's a bitch to train after powerleveling.

[Messianic]

I'm pretty sure he was talking about skills such as dodge, alteration, 1h slash, 2h slash, piercing ..... all that stuff that's a bitch to train after powerleveling.

Sadly, I do not believe he was. It goes up pretty fast nowadays. I think they fixed it a few months ago so it doesn't take forever to do...

[RiffDaemon]

Sadly, I do not believe he was. It goes up pretty fast nowadays. I think they fixed it a few months ago so it doesn't take forever to do...

Oh, nice! After casting True North a few thousand times, you'd think your character would have it down...

[Glenzig]

I'm pretty sure he was talking about skills such as dodge, alteration, 1h slash, 2h slash, piercing ..... all that stuff that's a bitch to train after powerleveling.

If you can pay for PLing, why can't you just drop the extra plat on training your skills up?

[kaev]

I don't like that there isn't much class distinction at the lower levels. I like having more of the games content available. I'm sure you can see why people find that more desirable.

I like that characters of any class can contribute to most any group. I like it that it doesn't cripple the group to have 3 tanks, or 2 druids, or whatever. I like that the death penalty stings a bit, but only a kneejerk minmaxer* or a dumbass cares enough about the xp loss to worry about a rez while the rest of us just move on and kill more after the CR.


(*) the minmaxer isn't actually there tho, he's off somewhere whining about how boring it is to grind pp to pay for his twinking & PLing.

[RiffDaemon]

If you can pay for PLing, why can't you just drop the extra plat on training your skills up?

The GM route only goes so far. If you were granted a fresh level 60 character, you'd have 300 points available to spend at the GM. If you need to bring up alteration, abjuration, conjuration, divination, and piercing, that's 1140 points to skill up.

(And I could be wrong in this, but I don't think the GM can train Offense, Defense, and Channeling)

[Invoke]

I like that characters of any class can contribute to most any group. I like it that it doesn't cripple the group to have 3 tanks, or 2 druids, or whatever. I like that the death penalty stings a bit, but only a kneejerk minmaxer* or a dumbass cares enough about the xp loss to worry about a rez while the rest of us just move on and kill more after the CR.


(*) the minmaxer isn't actually there tho, he's off somewhere whining about how boring it is to grind pp to pay for his twinking & PLing.

That's cool. I'm glad you have the option to play that part of the game. Clearly you don't like playing with twinks and minmaxers, so shouldn't you be pro newb quest PLing? That way they can level on by and you never have to play with them.

[Nirgon]

What do you define as "skill" in EQ?

The problem is the word - typically when you hear "skill" you think of a basketball player's % to make a shot or a person's hand-eye coordination, or some other physical ability that can be virtually infinitely improved in a certain context.

EQ "skills" are not so. They *basically* plateau immediately. There are a few tiny tricks here and there but it doesn't increase much beyond that point. Once you've practiced soloing big-time mobs with charm or slow/torpor/etc/etc, you really don't get better at it. You just learn nuances of execution against different mobs. That's not really skill so much as it is knowledge.

So when you say there are tons of people who are bad at EQ, it means they lack a pretty basic set of skills; not that they're like "the worst player in the NFL", which is actually pretty damn good in terms of skill.

If it doesn't take skill... why are so many people here so terrible at it?

There's social aspects to it also.... and effort... more things people fail @.

[Glenzig]

The GM route only goes so far. If you were granted a fresh level 60 character, you'd have 300 points available to spend at the GM. If you need to bring up alteration, abjuration, conjuration, divination, and piercing, that's 1140 points to skill up.

(And I could be wrong in this, but I don't think the GM can train Offense, Defense, and Channeling)

Sorry. I was just going off of the skills that were listed in the post I responded to. I was assuming that there were certain skills that were needed immediately at higher levels and that those could be trained. And I think GMs do train channeling.

[Whirled]

LOL; the only skill needed (from what I hear) is to make sure the poop goes in the sock

[Invoke]

LOL; the only skill needed (from what I hear) is to make sure the poop goes in the sock

Depending on what food you've been eating, this can be more difficult then it sounds.

[Millburn]

LOL; the only skill needed (from what I hear) is to make sure the poop goes in the sock

I paid plat to get mine surgically attached.

[daasgoot]

I paid plat to get mine surgically attached.

banned for RMT

[Valdarious]

Sadly, I do not believe he was. It goes up pretty fast nowadays. I think they fixed it a few months ago so it doesn't take forever to do...

Yes, I was talking about the skills leveling up. No I was not talking about you needing skills to play the game, yes those help but in the end a monkey can do hand eye coordination.
Rocketing from 4-15 by turn ins will gimp you very badly for some time getting those skills leveled back up.

[jcr4990]

Is fang nerf classic?

[iruinedyourday]

nobody can prove it one way or the other I'd wager.

[Messianic]

Yes, I was talking about the skills leveling up. No I was not talking about you needing skills to play the game, yes those help but in the end a monkey can do hand eye coordination.
Rocketing from 4-15 by turn ins will gimp you very badly for some time getting those skills leveled back up.

I'm actually pleased to know that's what you were saying.

It's really not that hard. I used bone chips/CB belts/pads to get characters to 8-10 a couple times prior to them even fixing skill up %, and had my skills maxed very quickly. I max all my weapon skills - piercing, 2hb, 2hs, 1hs, 1hb prior to leveling my ranger every single level.

Defense is a bit trickier, but it still catches up pretty quickly. I promise this isn't an issue for a PLed character for long.

Is fang nerf classic?

Yep. Folks posted evidence in the bug thread.

nobody can prove it one way or the other I'd wager.

I'm too lazy to pull up the thread, but they have substantive comments that corroborate it pretty well. I'm totally satisfied with the nerf based on the evidence.

[rollin5k]

They never gave as much in classic as they were here as i remember it

[fadetree]

I max all my weapon skills - piercing, 2hb, 2hs, 1hs, 1hb prior to leveling my ranger every single level.

True Ranger.

[Messianic]

True Ranger.

I do crappy dps in many different ways. That's the way if the ranger.

[Clark]

That's what you faggots get.

:confused:

:eek:

[Dragonsblood1987]

lol ur a shitty. go home

Grind that xp in a party like the game was intended instead of playing fangquest ksing dozens of other nerds for days at a time.

[daasgoot]

Grind that xp in a party like the game was intended instead of playing fangquest ksing dozens of other nerds for days at a time.

yeah because once you hit 20 the game is over.. no more grinding to be done.

[Clark]

nobody can prove it one way or the other I'd wager.

:D

[iruinedyourday]

I'm just guessing I don't know /shrug :)